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Very. I love alternate history timeline stuff, so this episode was/is one of my all time favourites. Sort of on topic, I’ve heard rumours recently that there may be an upcoming spin off series that will, at least in part or maybe the whole show, be based around the captain and crew of “yesterday’s Enterprise.”
Hey Hey there Admiral Murray 😊 Seeing the show when it was originally broadcast was a mindblower! And it was amazing to see her. ❤Love your reaction as always. Thank you for these perfect Sundays.
I've always loved the part where Picard tells Garrett about how badly the war is going for the Federation. His slight hesitation and little glance to see who might be listening, along with the urgency and even hint of fear in his voice despite speaking in hushed tones. Patrick Stewart was incredible in his prime.
His alter character in this episode was on point, the whole crew as well but especially Stewart. Really made me believe that he was a grizzled, disillusioned war veteran.
@@TheeYellowDart what I love about this episode is the cat is not playing different characters. Everyone is exactly the same except your situation is completely different. It’s not like in that really crappy Voyager episode where everyone is playing an exaggerated weirdo version of themselves. Super Janeway she’s pretty on point you know for a crazy person. But you can see how the characters that we know and love have been changed due to this war, but they’re all the same people.
Easily one of my top 5 TNG episodes. Also, I love that Guinan is the only person that can call Worf a coward to his face and ellicit a hearty laugh and thoughtful response.
- "Inform the crew ... we're going back. The Romulans will get a good fight. We'll make it one for the history books." - "I know you will, Captain." Man I love that exchange. Kudos to the actress on that delivery. You get a good mix of pride in her mission, resignation to their fate, but also defiance in the face of death.
It's more than that. She sees what their death could achieve. And hones in on that. Captain to captain, when they're words aren't monitored. Picard has a desperation. And she not only senses it, she picks it up a walks with it.
I saw John Frakes speak at a convention, and he said the partial decapitation makeup was so good, he asked the makeup folks if he could wear it home to show his wife. Imagine Genie's reaction when he came home!
"Let's make sure that History never forgets. . . the name. . . . Enterprise!" When this aired, my college dorm was all gathered in the TV lounge. And when Picard said, "That'll be the day." to the Klingon's call for Surrender, EVERYONE spontaneously jumped up, threw their fists in the air and shouted "YEAH!"! THIS is some "Peak" Star Trek!
The Episode that gives Tasha a proper sendoff, also hinting at how her character might have evolved if Denise Crosby had decided to stay. One thing I love about this episode is that this Picard is a very different Character, far harsher and even more controlled, and far less friendly when interacting with Riker. In this timeline, these two aren’t friends.
@@Kilo80Kilo And then lowers his voice to a whisper and out of range to everyone but Captain Garret when he divulges the reality of the war. A war he knows he is losing.
One of the many things I love about this episode is the subtle change in character interactions -- especially Picard and Riker. As opposed to their relationship int the prime timeline, you can sense a thinly veiled animosity between them. You could see people who are changed by twenty years of war. Great performances by both Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes. This episode was written by Ira Steven Behr, who would go on to be the showrunner for the excellent Star Trek: Deep Space 9
They should have gone a lot further with those changes. It would have been fun to see Picard and Riker being almost hostile towards each other. The episode gave Tasha a short romance with Castillo. But, I've thought it would have been interesting if she was actually in a relationship with Data. And, of course, Worf should have been in command of a Klingon ship. I can't understand why the episode didn't use that very obvious twist.
@bryanclark3151 I think the subtle lack of patience and cynicism between Picard and Riker was done well. Too much hostility doesn't work because at the end of the day, Riker is the XO and he stows his major misgivings. Picard in the alternate timeline would have zero quams about relieving an officer that shows dissenting behaviour during war.
One of if not my top episode of all time. I've still got no idea how they managed to cram so much into a single episode and make it all land so perfectly. Also, Captain Rachel Garrett is the GOAT.
There's a reason why this episode is always included on the list of top 10 episodes of ST: TNG. As a young sci-fi fan watching this back in the '90's, this was the first story that really showed me the potential of what a good time travel plot could do. Plus this was just another fascinating piece of the puzzle they were unraveling with Guinan and her backstory...her mysterious ESP making her the only one who can pick up on the fact that something has happened to make things go awry.
Note that in this episode Worf disappears (for obvious reasons) but also Troi disappears, most likely because as a warship they really didn't have time for Counselors.
Honestly, a warship would have a much greater need for a counselor... My interpretation of her absence is that Troi, or maybe even all of Betazed, may have been lost in the war.
Theory: Troi along with other empathic species are part of a Psyops Corp, spies, sabotuers, and assassins. All working on behalf of Section 31 to slow the Klingons.
@@insertname4532 the events of Nurendra 3 happened after the Khitomer massacre. Worf either grew up in Russia as a pariah or he was returned to the empire. They should've made the attack older than 22yrs.
There's also the reappearance of Wesley. In the normal timeline, he's still a teenager , perhaps early in his studies for Star Fleet Academy. In the alternate timeline, he's in full uniform as a member of the crew, and there are no "children" on board. Evidently, the war is going so badly that the Federation is desperate to the point of resorting to putting teenagers into uniform and sending them into battle.
@@stevenkaye1625 DS9 was very mediocre until Season 4 and had the 2nd worst Series finale of all pre-JJ/Kurtzman Star Trek. TBH (only Enterprise finale was worse). And also, DS9 isn't a Starship or even a Federation Base, rather a refit Cardassian one so lighting differences are expected.
@@taylemgames2652 Calling DS9 "mediocre" until season 4 is a wild statement, but each to their own I guess! Also I meant dark and moody more in the figurative sense as opposed to literally the lighting haha.
I like the version on the wall of observation lounge more than the one in this episode, granted finding the renderings based off it is harder. It is an even more seamless blending of features between B & D, the one in this episode are more like a blending of TOS & D, with aspects of the secondary hull and nacelles just feeling off to me.
It was smart of the writers to show that future Enterprise was about to be destroyed. It made for a noble ending, sacrificing themselves after asking past Enterprise to do the same thing. Plus it filled the plot hole question about both going back and actually defeating the Romulans.
And they made it look effortless. Relatively complicated story made easy to follow by writers who actually had talent. Packed everything we needed to know into less than an hour. Anyone who wants to know why Star Trek isn't what it used to be only needs to watch an episode like this one and ask themselves when was the last time they saw a new Trek episode that was this good.
Guinan's Q-like abilities add to the sense of how little we understand the true nature of the galaxy and the powers at work in it. But she gives us hope that not all power is corruptible. -Apart from when she stabbed Q with a fork.
Jen mentioned that part of the appeal of Guinan is how sparingly they use her. I agree but I also think it's important to note because it has been kind of memory-holed but Whoopi Goldberg was a huge movie star when she joined the cast. Movie stars didn't do TV in that era, especially not stars billed above the title. In 88-91, I'd argue that she was as big of a star as Tom Hanks. Their careers went in different directions after that point, but it was a minor miracle for a first-run syndication show to get access at all to a star of her caliber. The 5-6 episodes per season that she'd do was a great gift to the show.
Exactly! Whoopi's talent on the show stands out because she actually is on another level above most actors. She was more famous than the show, and she took the pay cut because she's a nerd. AWESOME!
I always loved the little acting choice of Frakes and Stewart with their tone to make it seem like the Riker of this timeline has a antagonistic relationship with Picard.
They respect each other, but there is little time for friendship and bonding. Think how many people they have had to order to thier deaths. All of the crew are more negative, and just in survival war mode. Even Crusher doesnt push back much in this Ep, all the death she has seen... The detail in the acting is amazing!
Twenty years of war, and the war going so badly for the Federation, half of Star Fleet destroyed, just six months away from surrendering or total defeat, would mean that every officer would be at wits end out of desperation and despair. Not a lot of time or energy for hanging out and making friends.
It was fun watching Cassie from PIB watch this. But Jen is doing it right and better. This episode hits SO much harder when you have seen all the episodes leading up to it. I'm so glad Jen is doing the entire series!
I wouldn't phrase it in terms of right and wrong. It's obvious that the appreciation for the show will be deeper and more nuanced if you watch every single episode. But I would rather PiB give us highlight episodes than no episodes at all. Cassie's plan works for her channel, and Jen's choice works for hers. Both are enjoyable in different ways. :-)
It’s very clear that Cassie has become hooked on the show. She’s said that she will be going back to watch more of it off camera, so future episodes she reacts to will hit harder for her, too.
Such a great episode and a little bit of history too, with Rachel Garrett being the first female captain of the Enterprise to appear on screen (and from what we see, very worthy of the title she was too).
Great reaction, Jen! I hadn't seen this episode for a long time, and I had chills the entire time too. "Let's make sure, history never forgets the name, Enterprise." I actually teared up!
Oh, also, the _Enterprise_ -C was an _Ambassador_ -class vessel. It's based on a design by Andrew Probert, but modified to make it easier to produce a filming model on short notice. And much like the _Excelsior_ , you can expect the ship to show up again under different names and registries as you continue your journey through all things Trek.
I really like this design. The circular saucer and deflector combined with TNG-era details really makes it feel like a bridge between the eras. It's just awkward enough to look charming.
Jen, your 'gasp' at seeing Tasha will now be my new alert sound! 😅 I only saw the original broadcast screenings of the TNG episodes, and 3 decades on, this is one of the few I recall clearly -- brilliant episode! Oh, can't wait for you to see the Enterprise B, but that's quite a bit further ahead 😜
This is among the Top Ten Star Trek episodes, TNG and or entire franchise series. "22 years ago one ship could have stop this war before it started". The Klingons recognized the sacrifice of a Starfleet ship on their behalf, he Khitomer Accords would derive from this.
Notice at the end of the episode Geordi is wearing the the alternate timeline uniform. It’s basically the same uniform with black cuffs on the sleeves. I just realized Geordi. name was terribly spelt. Damn voice to text.
I also particularly like how Geordi doesn't answer Guinan's question with words, but he literally has a Look of "Where the heck did that question come from?" on his face and in his body language, transcending the visor.
One of the ones I couldn't wait for you to get to, enjoyed this one a lot. Another important one for TNG lore and a fun one at that. Not often we get to see another Enterprise! Thanks Jen 😁
This is the best episode they had made thus far on the series. It really raised the bar. IMO mid season 3 is where TNG (and DS9, interestingly) really started to show its potential.
I was looking at a list of season 3 episodes and noticed that the season was very good up to this episode. But, it's at this point the show hits it's elite level which it maintains though the 5th season.
Luv these rift in space episodes! The surprise guest was awesome! Luv your excitement Jen! ❤ Looking very Sharp in your Star Trek uniform ❤ Thanks for sharing Jen ❤️💛🖖🏻
This is probably one of my absolute favorite episodes in all of Star Trek: TNG. And Tasha Yar was always a good character, though she did not get that much in the first season. 🙂 It is fun watching you react to these... making guesses and having the answers revealed by the episode.
When that phenomenon appeared and that music I thought another Where Silence Was Lease episode in which I loved. Nope, something entirely different and wtf?? Took me a big long while to figure it out. Ahhh, an alternate universe!!!
I’ve always wondered why they didn’t make Worf the captain of the Klingon ship that attacks the Enterprises at the end. It would have been a cool touch to hear his voice being the one telling Picard to prepare to be boarded.
It might have been too much. Would he have ever survived after the Romulan massacre that took his parents, since humans found him? Anyway, even if he was out in a ship the odds of him being there as a captain when Klingons are overrunning the whole Federation space is a bit forced.
@@rhaedas9085 I don't think it would have been too much. If you try to think about these things logically, you will drive yourself a little bonkers. Especially since none of it is real. Logically, a change in history that big would have altered the life trajectory of every single crew member. The chances of all of them still ending up on the same ship in the exact same positions would be close to nil. So, it doesn't matter. What matters is what works narratively and emotionally. On both of those scores, I think it would have been effective and poignant to have Worf end up as the Klingon captain. Could have even provided a nice transition between timelines: dark timeline Worf delivers the ultimatum just as Enterprise-C enters the time rift, then normal timeline Worf says the line already seen here after that moment. It has always baffled me that he wasn't in the dark timeline at all, especially since the cold open set up a nice subplot for him that never paid off.
Incredible episode. Whata great time time travel story and the return of Tasha Yar!!! There is one error I noticed when the timeline was reset and that was Geordi still had his alternate uniform by the way his cuffs looks when Guinan talks to him at the end. Also, love the design of the Enterprise-C.
This was the first episode I saw of Star Trek TNG. I had always been a fan of Star Trek I saw this at a Sci-fi club, years before it came to British TV. I was hooked and think this is one of the best time travel stories of any show.
I must say I had given up in TNG after watching season 1 in the day. But for some reason I watched this and was so impressed it brought me back into the fold. Best and true reaction anywhere.
Jen quoting Picard's "That'll be the day", brings Buddy Holly's song of the same name to mind. And of course The Searchers with John Wayne that inspired the song. A very good western to watch.
Only an important episode but it gave us my second favorite enterprise after the TOS constitution refit. And this was a great way to have a better send off for Tasha.
Hi Jen! Hope you are having a great day! Thank you for another, as always, great video! The best thing about sundays is to watch your reactions to ST TNG! 🙂
One of the greatest episodes of tv of all time. One of the things I love about this episode is that I think they got it right in their portrayal of the old enterprise traveling to the future. The timeline is completely changed because they haven’t been in it for 22 years. As someone who loves time travel stories one of my pet peeves is stores where people travel to the future and see themselves (I’m looking at you BTTF2). Once you leave the timeline to travel to the future you no longer exist in that timeline until you reappear in whatever time you travel to. There aren’t going to be two of you there. When Einstein traveled one minute intro the future in BTTF1 there weren’t two Eisenstein’s there and that wouldn’t have changed if he went one hour, one day, or 30 years into the future. Like I said, it’s a pet peeve.
One time I was driving and I saw another car with a bumper sticker that had a picture of Worf on it and it said, "Prune juice...the warrior's drink". Gave me a good laugh.
The last scene wasn't originally the last scene. It looks like it was clipped from the episode (just Geordi and Guinan talking about Tasha) and placed at the end (after Guinan contacts the bridge). You can tell because in that clip of Geordi and Guinan talking, Geordi is wearing the alternate timeline uniform.
Ho Jen. Castillo is played by Christopher Mcdonald, who's most famously known as Shooter McGavin. He once said after playing Shooter in Happy Gilmore that he has never had to buy a drink since.😮
10:47 I love this look that Tasha gives Guinan when she says "...at least that's what I sense when I look at you." Awesome acting on Denise Crosby's part...who I was honoured to meet a few years ago at ComicCon.
I never thought of it as a do over for Tasha because I was so blown away by the awesome episode, but youre right 😂 great reaction Jen we’ve been waiting for this one, this is absolute S tier TNG!
I really like the actress who plays the Enterprise-C captain - she only has a few scenes, but she really sells the character as an equal of Kirk or Picard, a worthy captain in her own right. The writers would later say they wished they held this story back to use for a the movies.
