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To be clear the “new standard” AS3001 everyone keeps referring to is not a new standard however a revision to an existing standard. The last revision of this standard was 2008. A lot has changed in the caravan industry since then and this standard is just catching up to what has been an industry free for all for some time. Long overdue in my opinion.

Thanks for the informative video. My question is, does this new standard only affect caravans or camper trailers and Ute back/slide on?

I have read a few of the comments and some people seem a little confused over what the new standard applies to.........basically if your van / ute canopy / camper trailer can be connected to any Australian commercial electrical grid then the standard applies. e.g. caravan park power (unless it is a remote area that is powered by their own generators) This is not only for your safety but also for the safety of anybody else connected to the grid, as a fault in your van may actually impact on someone else connected to the same grid. In conclusion, if you have no ability to connect to the grid e.g. no external 15Amp socket to connect to a commercial power grid, then you can do what you want with your battery /solar / generator setup. Even though this standard is not retrospective I envisage that eventually it will be applied to when you sell your van or if you rent it out, which is very similar to how the Government went about installing RCD's and smoke detectors into houses in pre-standard dwellings.

Great video guys. I’m confused when you keep saying “ non habital spaces “, once you are inside the caravan. Isn’t anywhere inside a caravan, a place that you live in ? 🤷🏻‍♂️

My question is can those individual fusing for the solar panels be located on the roof inside a box and the main fuse located at your inside panel?

Shouldn’t this new law be on the heads of manufacturers ? It seems like the onus is on the buyer of the new van from what I just listened to or have I misunderstood ?

Thought all this was or should have been in a long time ago all basic 12v safety but the big shift to lithium has pushed more safety regulations and all the chinese crap systems being used has the authoritys worried.I couldn't sleep in a caravan if it had lithium system that wasn't prooven or from companies like enerdrive or redarc. Nice setup 👌

Well done, very informative video, Remi has covered it well…. still makes you wonder how the powers to be will police this when people still do their own DIY installation

Brilliant, informative episode, thanks for sharing, looking forward to the walkthrough episode xxxx

Omfg, is that your new rig ??

They're doing it with guns too. Changing the laws on everything Australians like to do in their spare time. It needs to stop.

Morning Mates 😊 Thanks Legends for the info 👏🏼👍🏼 Have safe travels & Cheers 🍻 From South Africa 🇿🇦

Thanks for the informative vid guys. Question for your next vid - is there any issue or what are the new requirements for mounting a lithium phosphate battery inside a vehicle cabin? ie behind the seat of a dual cab. Thanks

Great Vid as always guy's! What's the go with all the Chargers etc., being in the the Vented Cupboard outside? Is this part of the new requirement too? It wasn't really mentioned in the Video other than utilizing a dead space behind the Compressor Fridge.

I noticed Remi gives a good explanation of how to seal and secure the access lid to the battery compartment under the seat cushion. However, there is an air vent in the seat section so I presume that has to be sealed up as well?

Sounds like its a good idea to ventilate the battery box anyway. I was thinking about doing this for a while anyway. On the matter of warning labels, it would be great if any manufacturer could direct us to where we can buy the safety labels.

😂The authorities sure are worried about these crappy Chinese Lithium batteries, that are highly renowned for their "self ignition" qualities!! You can rely on them to be unreliable, as far as safety is concerned.

Love the Van, only one thing got on my nerves, it's a me thing and wil probs be told to harden up, the bloke doing all the explaining keeps saying bat tery its battery, now I feel better

Is the link somewhere for the standards ?

So is your and new van safe? What have you done with your older/ new machine car ? Why are you selling it ?

Wish govt would get out of our lives.. more govt, more rules, more costs..

This is the beginning of the end for Fly-By-Night poor quality import Caravans and Campers. Hopefully all the dodgy (including some big-name brand) Caravan builders pull their fingers out and make their trailers safe, secure and compliant. Auto Electricians also need to be held accountable for poor quality Electrical Work such as unfused Anderson plugs and non-compliant AS 2513 plugs.

I tried to get a copy of the standard but all I could get without paying $190 was a preface which gives reference to a competent person.just what the standard says about who is a competent person and and i can still do my own low voltage dc canopy setup with no external ac influence

Just bought a second hand van and getting it upgraded and I knew I’d seen this before because he was panicking about the regs and I have told him to look at this video so thank you thank you so so much for this video and all your helpful updates video. Me and the boss just like following your everyday videos and seeing what sort of antics Chris gets up to cheers and thanks

Hey guys we met at the show and we were living next to the hip camp in Burrum heads I hope you both are doing well. Love you content and have been a long follower. Anyway just a question about insurance which company are you guys with for the car/caravan? this would help us and a lot of other maybe do a seperate segment on this topic.

Its only the battery that has changed thats all for show 🤣

Also of note, the LPG standard was updated a few years ago with MAJOR safety changes.

Another vent for dust.

Hi guys. I have just bought a second hand motorhome (1998). Who could I take it to, to be able to get it upgraded please (I am very new to all this).

Question: so who enforces these new laws, manufacturer, dealer or buyer, just purchased our first van manufacturer 5/24 but after arriving home and the excitement and the smoke and mirrors have dissipated,and you start going over van and tightening up all loose latches and bolts on van that some how get “neglected / forgotten” in final inspection or at hand over and other minor type issues, we have 3 x 150 lithium batteries in plastic battery boxes strapped under seating area, lid is screwed down, but that’s where it ends,box is definitely not sealed, gaping 50mm hole to put fingers in to lift lid ect. So to my thinking, there maybe a law to state what needs to be done, but if no one is to enforce it but the customer, removing and double checking these things are to standard,or just relying on the word of a reputable manufacturer/dealer to say that it is all above board,then starts the warranty issues/disputes and out lay to return van to be fixed on the owner ect. the law is flawed from the start.Until this is checked and ticked off at build installation point, it will be up to the buyer to double check these things before driving out the gate, forgoing any trust in dealer/ manufacturer, rant over 😅

Seems like these changes are quite good just common sense. Thanks for this clear information.

Is a baddery similar to a battery?

Again! You two cover the important points 🙏💞🇦🇺 Great episode 😊

Great to see Enerdrive and Titanium all over it, again. I suspect this is a bit of legislation that happens from Nov 18 orders going forward? Not retrospectively placed for orders and builds in place?

The new laws do they cover hole of Australia

Thanks again guys for your input so helpful.

Well done, very informative video.,

Thank you for this great information.

Is this Australia wide or just qld ?

Thoughly enjoyed this guys! 👍

There is no such thing invented today as a fire supresnt for a lithium battery fire , mabe these lithium fosfrate batteries are safer who knows time will tell , the gas thing is an issue do they have problems with them letting off gasses and why , all i know is dont buy elcheapo Chinese made batteries that contain any electronics and lithium in them solspate or not 😮 buy expensive Aussie made stuff if thats available , and good luck , im still sticking to deep cycle batteries for the time and see what happens in a few years time , something safer and better should come i hope

It's about time for caravan's to be a separate license.

Hey Remi, This is what you and the lads were talking about @ Benchmark.

Are plastic battery boxes OK? Both of our batteries are in individual box, totally sealed.

I tried to google for the new laws but could not find any new or websites, can you please provide a link to the new laws so that I can read up on them. Fromm what you said in the video it only applies to new caravans that are registered for the first time after the 18 November is this correct?

Does the new standard require double pole isolation per solar panel

Awesome Ep guys and great info.

Guys… it’s a standard. Not enforceable legislation.

Gr8 ep … very interesting and informative 🤙 thanks a bunch 🍻

Anyone have a link to the new standards?

overkill x 100

If it's so easy, why no do it as advocates?

Do the "boxing" and ventilation etc. requirements apply to AGM batteries too as I am not intending to upgrade mt current set up to lithium at any time in the future I have two AGM batteries 100aHr fed by one single solar panel on the roof of my slide on camper. I have 12v system through an Anderson Plug to the car battery - regular lead acid from supercheap I have 240v plug in for caravan park etc. power access to keep batteries charged, I have a dc dc controller thar decides what to use, where to direct the power, turn off what is not needed and continues to feed the fridge, lights, power points for recharge of phone etc, and the fans overnight.

FYI, I have had a metal case prismatic Lifep04 3v cell catch fire in my RV. Fortunately I was in attendance and was able to extinguish it with a powder fire extinguisher. Your claim that an Lifep04 will not catch fire was not my experience. I was also under the impression they were totally safe until this incident. All BMS data showed it was within specs.

Lifepo4 batteries to Australian standards don’t give off gases when charging they are a sealed unit (so why put them in a sealed box) also they have a BMS to regulate high/low temperature under/over current this prevents thermal run away unlike AGM batteries which give off gas when charging because they are vented also there is no BMS. That’s why Lifepo4 batteries are a much better choice for safety reasons. Do yourself a favour and upgrade to Lifepo4 for safety and more power.

Do you have to completely contain your batteries, eg cover with ? To be safe and do you need vents to airate area ? Under bed or couch, which is inhabitable living areas ? These batteries are prone to catch fire, truthfully,are they safe ? Why have or are selling your vehicle ? Do you have lithium batteries in it ??

Panels in parallel fused ... not series ? Solar CB ... seen plenty of them catch fire while switching All sounds like someone pissing into the wind

That's very irresponsible or naive saying LiPo wet batteries can't suffer thermal runnaway. Even solid state lithium can but they don't burn the same due to no flammable electrolyte.

Hahahaha Lithium + phosphate yeah na, never putting that under where my kids sleep.

Regarding solar in series, do you have to fuse them individually or per series configuration? Because normally you would series them on the roof before coming in.

Be careful with Lithium batteries. They have caused a lot of fires.

My understanding one would put a circuit breaker just after and before the solar charger for lighting strikes on the panels which does happen, can not see how a battery can leak gas from it when it is in-case in plastic container totally ,sounds like its away for Enerdrive to sell more stuff. I built a slide-on camper with shut off circuit breakers on each step to the batteries and after them put in co2 and lpg gas ,other gas leak equipment so far have not had any leaking from the batteries because there sealed.

Ok so a habital area has to be vented . Where do we stand if we install a slimline lithium behind the rear seat in a vehicle or the rear of a station wagon type arrangement ??? And why arent battery suppliers issuing a detailed warnings re compliance requirements..??

So don't have a 15a plug on the outside and non of it matters... Easy.

As soon as you can land a dart backwards then your van should be legal, the current situation is saying that the government and road authorities can make law's that apparently circumvent the law's of physics. The new ranger look's to handle a towing worse than ever and this Christmas numbers of them pulling vans that really need something bigger than a crusier. Had a few of those heart in the mouth watching it all go down moment's in a week 🤦 and the whole caravan industry and community are caught up with some fuses and stickers that logically should have already been fitted.

What's the go if I want to add a second lithium battery to my current system, after the new law comes in? Does my whole system now have to comply?

No.

You guys want Patreon support and you're cruising around with THAT?? Oh and I just checked your tow vehicle. You want MY financial support? Yeah nah. You're rich, support yourself.

Excellent vid. Thanks

, thanks for this. I am upgrading the 12v system in an older Jayco discovery, no Inverter, how will this affect m - it's DIY?. Is the new regulations retrospective for older vans to be brought up to compliance? Thanks again

Are these national or state based standards?

Lets face it currently new builds are all taking onboard and utilising the new standards coming in. Older vehicles are legal and are grandfathered stop panicking and misleading people

That's degrading to the female in the videos why is she being stage it's not professional

Thanks, a great piece.

Instal a gender.

Thanks for the info :) I can't see why an individual fuse is required for each solar panel though. The advantage of having a series-configured panel is that you don't need to run thicker gauge cable. It doesn't make sense to run separate cables (thicker gauge to avoid voltage drop) back to the van.

So this is for new vans only, nothing to do with old vans?

State or federal?

So if anyone that just bought their van, it's going to cost them a small fortune?

Thanks for pointing out that the lithium, iron batteries are safe my boss has been seeing the battery fires on tv and is worried about the van we are going to check out so she is going to watch this even if she doesn’t want to.