being a car guy who's had every tough car from the 60's 70's and customized many of them, they no longer float my boat I really love cars from the mid 80's like the early commodores right up to the 2017, VT-VF have taken over the word tuff with superchargers and Turbos, the Barra and the LS have changed the Australian scene forever the big 6.7.1 hanging out of the bonnet aren't tough to me anymore when you know Barras and LS's sporting 1000+ hp same is for the RB and 2JZ's
