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@WihGlah
@WihGlah 4 месяца назад
LMAO -"We are going to be using Liquid Metal like a normal person"
@mauriciob8260
@mauriciob8260 4 месяца назад
😂
@yosixxx
@yosixxx 4 месяца назад
Only a half joke, you're not supposed to use thermal paste on a modern cpu die because heat density is too high
@nerdynumen
@nerdynumen 4 месяца назад
PS5 APUs use it, so why don't our high end cpus?
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 4 месяца назад
@@nerdynumen because thermal paste is perfectly fine for something like a 7800x3D. Heck its fine for basically all CPUs... Unless you are constantly pushing max wattage in stress tests. We have far better cooling with PCs than a console which needs to be almost silent and slim. The difference between thermal paste and liquid metal isnt worth it for most CPUs at all.
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 4 месяца назад
PS5 uses liquid metal@@lilpain1997
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 4 месяца назад
The sound benefit is the real victory here. I switched to a 360 mm aio from air cooling all my life and I can't believe how quiet things get.
@FireTwo
@FireTwo 4 месяца назад
how good must that feel! the cat is loving that neck scratches without the cone! best shot all vid,
@TheBoltcranck
@TheBoltcranck 4 месяца назад
6:25 Juffes doing some bechmarks but Master arrives to give you some tips, glad to see the Little One looking better! 😼
@pascaldifolco4611
@pascaldifolco4611 4 месяца назад
This $400 60W chip just ridicules Intel
@jean-claudejosselin187
@jean-claudejosselin187 4 месяца назад
yes and no. too expensive, too hot, and not enough cores. but 3d cache, and low power consumption
@TheUltraMinebox
@TheUltraMinebox 4 месяца назад
​@@jean-claudejosselin187what are you on about? 7800x3d doesnt get hot at all compared to the 13900k. E cores are basically cinebench boosters. Who in their right mind would pay 500 for a i9 when you can get that level of performance for 399? I dont see how its "too expensive"
@jean-claudejosselin187
@jean-claudejosselin187 4 месяца назад
@@TheUltraMinebox everything is too expensive those days. not to argue, but i've would have likely payed 330-ish, not 430. and future games may need more cores.......we'll see. Still, too hot. That won't get me to buy Intel, because i would have like 8 performance cores and 4 or 6 lower cores, + IA shabang.......for a good price. truly, there is no gaming cpu @ a fair price and conbining the right tech. money, money, money......... sad time.
@SquillagusNiggle
@SquillagusNiggle 3 месяца назад
@@jean-claudejosselin187 You're not making any sense. Zen4 can withstand much higher temperatures, so it runs hotter by design, it's not a defect. Once it reaches 80-ish it controls its own temperatures automatically, not even 'throttling' it just stops boosting so hard. 8 cores 16 threads is easily enough for anything but high-end sims that can use more cores, but actual gaming performance on the X3D chips is fantastic and the most efficient per watt of power (and heat) by far. If you didn't want an AM5 chip to run as hot, just engage ECO mode in the BIOS. To get the same performance on any Intel chip you're using 2-3x the power and heat. By the way if you want a decent gaming CPU for cheap, go AM4 socket. Nothing wrong with 5700X3D or 5800X3D and there are loads of them on the second hand market right now.
@TheUltraMinebox
@TheUltraMinebox 3 месяца назад
@@SquillagusNiggle hell yeah! 5700X3D is the best am4 cpu in perf/dollar. Decent b550 at 120 and 250 w/ 5700x3d and 16 Gigs is around 410.
@PedroSombreireiro
@PedroSombreireiro 4 месяца назад
Love how you do your fittings dude ... old school!!!! :) thumbs up to that! :)
@mauriciob8260
@mauriciob8260 4 месяца назад
🤔looks like every PC Tech You Tuber have CATS as official pets in the channel
@recapturedcountry
@recapturedcountry 4 месяца назад
THE CONE OF SHAME KITTY....
@FrameChasers
@FrameChasers 4 месяца назад
Naw poor thing was sick and had surgery
@michaelcastrolopez7356
@michaelcastrolopez7356 4 месяца назад
"And we're Gucci" 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
@Adel-sj4ue
@Adel-sj4ue 3 месяца назад
Can u install the m.2 expansion card while using the ram watercoling kit???
@maloc1166
@maloc1166 3 месяца назад
First video I have watched on my 360HZ Oled that made it feel worth the oled part of the purchase. Your video quality is so good now man. You have come so far it's actually insane to watch. Video quality now matches the review quality.
@randomcomments5034
@randomcomments5034 4 месяца назад
This is actually really interesting, it just goes to show you how held back Zen 4 is purely from the IHS. It's good to note as well that you wont see the CPU scale as well from clock speeds in games that like the cache more. Its good to see you can squeeze more out of the platform, I just wish it was from the FCLK no minimize that latency. I'd love to see an 8700g max RAM OC as that thing is monolithic which means higher FCLK and WAY higher MCLKs. I know that with the 5700g you can make up a lot of what is lost from the lack of Cache by pushing RAM to the extreme. Thanks again for another interesting video
@martynasurbanavicius1342
@martynasurbanavicius1342 4 месяца назад
So main takeaway is that you can get pretty much all of the performance out of 7800X3D by just using cheap standard cooling and curve optimiser undervolt, no need for silicon lotery like on intel and some magical memory controller which could do 8000 or fancy motherboards and expensive cooling solutions. Seems like a no brainer
@ezioauditore1588
@ezioauditore1588 4 месяца назад
To max out given cpu yes but there is huge silicion variation on 7800x3d. When you compare best vs worst silicon there can be 10% diffrence in perfromance on stock/oc.
@martynasurbanavicius1342
@martynasurbanavicius1342 4 месяца назад
@@HeartOfAdel Yeah I definitely agree regarding the memory OC. Wish I got all the hours back that I have spent doing it. Looks like the motherboard situation is also getting better and cheaper on intel for extreme frequency support, hope this channel continues covering that. Though even with that in mind intel just looks like a lot more hassle these days and more expensive for me.
@martynasurbanavicius1342
@martynasurbanavicius1342 4 месяца назад
@@ezioauditore1588 LTTs recent video saw a few % points and derbaur was also similar. 10% would warrant RMA/return. Sounds to me like a defective chip
@mtlspider
@mtlspider 4 месяца назад
you still have the issue of the gimped ram imc and really bad bandwidth on amd vs intel even at lower ram speeds like 6000MT/s so any games doing lots of asset streaming will suffer on amd
@Isaax
@Isaax 4 месяца назад
Early DDR5 experience is fuckery akin to hardware in it's infancy, we're going to have a much nicer time within the next 1-3 gens on DDR5
@charlemurray9381
@charlemurray9381 4 месяца назад
I am running a cryo pad on my 13900KS decided. Works great and fixed the EK issue.
@lordace8795
@lordace8795 4 месяца назад
Kitty ending = best ending
@Boba_Gaming
@Boba_Gaming 4 месяца назад
I dont know why, but my CPU make 5250mhz stock with Under Volting and with BCLK OC 5350mhz. Maybe you have a really bad one or i have a good one.
@nsdcmdmbg1877
@nsdcmdmbg1877 4 месяца назад
That cat rules!
@razben1476
@razben1476 4 месяца назад
Love you Lyla, glad she's ok
@unitybeing777
@unitybeing777 4 месяца назад
That was impressive Legend.
@trsskater
@trsskater 2 месяца назад
The reason they suggested the graphine pad is because it works as well as thermal past and is non conductive and won't squish out when mounting pressure is applied. But yes if you are going to this extreme you should use liquid metal to get the best results.
@paulmulders3648
@paulmulders3648 2 месяца назад
Graphene is conductive
@KiNg0fShReD
@KiNg0fShReD 4 месяца назад
Pretty shocked it worked, I would want to to see a comparison vid or at least screenshots of the scores for Stock, Delid, Direct Die, and a 14900k in multiple games.
@Dawe957
@Dawe957 4 месяца назад
Perfect for ITX watercooling ✅
@starlightHT
@starlightHT 4 месяца назад
How strange is this result when you have 81ºC on the Diode and 70ºC cpu.... My 7800x3d in the same scenario with 5.05Ghz without fluctuations and without using liquid metal, normal thermal paste and I have 51ºC on the CPU and 66ºC peak on the Diode. The cooler is an arctic liquid freezer 2 360 and the thermal paste is one from Corsair.
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh 4 месяца назад
you got an affiliate link for the byski ram block?
@adrishchatterjee8954
@adrishchatterjee8954 3 месяца назад
Placing that CPU on that deskmat (which looks extra susceptible to ESD) is just scaring me
@joeconnolly4771
@joeconnolly4771 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the video 👍
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo 4 месяца назад
Good job brother.
@kaptain1477
@kaptain1477 3 месяца назад
How the fuq you get that waterblock I haven't seen it anywhere
@DekarNL
@DekarNL Месяц назад
Gonna delid my 7800X3D after noctua comes out with the NHD15 v2. Itll be cool af in my Fractal Torrent case.
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 4 месяца назад
One of my 8 year olds got in the road early wed. morning. Wasn't a pretty sight... Kickin myself every way but guilty...... Cats are just a pet and nothing short of amazing for the inner spirit. But that shit was gruesome to the soul.... I've still got the other 7 giants, so we're all good....
@thomasjones4131
@thomasjones4131 3 месяца назад
Is the hotspot temp on a gpu critical? Where is the hotspot temp sensor located on the rx7900 xtx gpu ?
@DekarNL
@DekarNL Месяц назад
Hotspot is the hottest spot of the chip. It's what you should look at.
@96kylar
@96kylar 4 месяца назад
What bykski block on the memory ?
@ValeriyKarpin78
@ValeriyKarpin78 4 месяца назад
It’s work with air cooler?
@tornyakvonvlashic8951
@tornyakvonvlashic8951 4 месяца назад
conversion of AMDip into AMDDDip ? :o
@freuk_
@freuk_ Месяц назад
U definitely should give it a try to the kryosheet, is way better than carbounaut and performs the same or even better to a regular thermal paste
@Rustynoname
@Rustynoname 3 месяца назад
Graphene is a super conductor. Graphene is a highly thermally conductive material and can transfer heat better than most materials.
@yournewlowrate
@yournewlowrate 4 месяца назад
how in the hell did you even get that? I can never find one.
@walllec
@walllec 4 месяца назад
Will that work on non3d chip?
@iNxL
@iNxL Месяц назад
Hey, would it be possible for you to test ram speed differences on 78x3D with new bios/agesa versions in 2024? If i'm not mistaken, in the meantime AM5 can handle higher ram speeds, right? e.g. 6000mhz cl30 vs 6400 cl32. Thank you!
@aciemiller3443
@aciemiller3443 Месяц назад
7800X3D is a joke if you are not using games that really supports the X3D cache. I have pretty much the same FPS with my "old" 12600KF vs. this hyped "trash" CPU. 5600Mhz CL36-36-36-68 vs 6000Mhz CL32-36-36-68 = Clown show. Don't step up on the hype train and save your money. Patriot Viper VENOM DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR5-5600, CL36-36-36-68, on-die ECC is a pretty GOOD kit. 70€ used on ebay.
@m4nu507
@m4nu507 4 месяца назад
I know you don’t like EK but that direct die AIO for intel looking real good after watching Der8auer test it. Hopefully the sponsors send u one for testing :)
@young-j731
@young-j731 4 месяца назад
Thermal grizzly will soon bring a Lga 1700 Mycro Direct die
@Woot-Zee
@Woot-Zee 4 месяца назад
Damn, I would love to be able to buy them already delidded. Better packaging and less money for not be forced to pay that IHS.
@Tech2C
@Tech2C 4 месяца назад
2%. That's it. Save your money for Zen5
@EzBreezy750
@EzBreezy750 4 месяца назад
AMD the algorithm 🎉
@z590iGeeeKReBoRN
@z590iGeeeKReBoRN 4 месяца назад
Bruh, imma let you know the ultimate oc ai cheat.... Set abt enable, specific core ratio to all core desire -subrtacted from bclk oc. Core ratio auto
@Heitorr
@Heitorr 4 месяца назад
where i can buy this?
@ilkerYT
@ilkerYT 4 месяца назад
Bro when r u gonna start using quick disconnects these test system swaps taking alot of time for you
@zencontroller
@zencontroller 4 месяца назад
No one ever mentions the onboard gpu... Im looking in task manager at this mysterious radeon GPU... Im thinking, is it on the board or the cpu... The cpu... wtf... ?? Never knew... Now I DO!!!!!
@fracturedlife1393
@fracturedlife1393 4 месяца назад
Positive CO on bclk?
@charleyweinhardt
@charleyweinhardt 3 месяца назад
Yo you should do a skit where someone going to do something to you're computer, and your being held back and you go into the "wait wait wait wait wait wait!!" meme that's all I can think about when I see your thumbnails
@Tpecep
@Tpecep 4 месяца назад
Now compare with direct die 14900k
@MooKyTig
@MooKyTig 4 месяца назад
Because we already know the answer. Margin of error to a 13900k.
@grigoryk6401
@grigoryk6401 4 месяца назад
Like - for the cat
@nathanmccormack6549
@nathanmccormack6549 4 месяца назад
Would you be able to test the 7800x3d dip with the new 6.01 chipset drivers. I personally noticed a massive improvement and way less stuttering with this new driver. Cheers (on win11)
@levispartan1993
@levispartan1993 4 месяца назад
Me too I was having problems with average CPU die temps reaching 130 degree I believe false readings but was really annoying seem to have gone with the latest bios and chipset drivers also mem context restore doesn't crash windows anymore
@bubbafats6246
@bubbafats6246 2 месяца назад
One of the biggest CS2 tournaments in the world has completely switched over to AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D chips 'to ensure a smooth esports experience'
@user-dw9zc8pq6c
@user-dw9zc8pq6c 2 месяца назад
They cant spend time to ram oc individually lol
@bubbafats6246
@bubbafats6246 2 месяца назад
@@user-dw9zc8pq6c thanks for the input
@errr9408
@errr9408 4 месяца назад
Will there be a video about OC AI on Asus boards?
@FrameChasers
@FrameChasers 4 месяца назад
Not for a looooong time, I’m too backlogged
@yosixxx
@yosixxx 4 месяца назад
Not a big deal, you get most of your performance tuning the ram not cpu. Turning it on will limit ram tuning potential due to aggressive single core oc.
@vivianriley7593
@vivianriley7593 4 месяца назад
cpu looked like it still has it's lid
@StSNC332
@StSNC332 3 месяца назад
I was just about to ask that exact question in the Patreon/Discord. I figured I was missing something. It's definitely been lapped before, but I am not sure if the IHS was removed before installing the AM5 Mycro Die CPU block(and that part was just cut or not filmed). I just purchased one of these CPU blocks a few weeks back with the impression that the block was to be fitted to a completely delidded("direct die") CPU. Always with "the secrets."
@mannyc19
@mannyc19 4 месяца назад
Why does the L2 says 1mb ?
@ouki4925
@ouki4925 4 месяца назад
Probably not worth it for just 2% perf. Save the money and put it on 9800X3D or something lol.
@leeverink32
@leeverink32 Месяц назад
Em. You do no the licuid metal can harm the cpu no?
@chapstickbomber
@chapstickbomber 4 месяца назад
Now let's see some chilled water FAFO
@bagerklestyne
@bagerklestyne 4 месяца назад
Kryosheet as a tim is better than everything else but liquid metal.
@hamslice839
@hamslice839 4 месяца назад
🐐
@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390
@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 4 месяца назад
I always stay for the kitty video at the end! 🐱‍
@nivea878
@nivea878 4 месяца назад
lol now he likes x3d, prior video he said he can't stand that am5 plattform😂
@FrameChasers
@FrameChasers 4 месяца назад
RU-vid is just about farming AMD nerds
@brainwashedape493
@brainwashedape493 4 месяца назад
everyone knows u use unstable FCLKs on amd good luck selling ur overpriced consults and bundles 4 much longer@@FrameChasers
@wmnsriteslol
@wmnsriteslol Месяц назад
Grifters gonna grift ...and this guy is the king
@MrDoomsday
@MrDoomsday 4 месяца назад
no way actually working product
@serkanyngn
@serkanyngn 4 месяца назад
How the fuck this cpu works at 80 celcius while drawing 67 watt power?
@RyanFennec
@RyanFennec 4 месяца назад
AMD moment
@proklet4694
@proklet4694 4 месяца назад
3D cache causes increased temperatures due to the vertical stacking. This is why X3D are "locked" for normal overclocking. This is how that technology works...
@thecatdaddy1981
@thecatdaddy1981 4 месяца назад
@@RyanFennec D E V I L said AMD magic
@officialyashvirgaming
@officialyashvirgaming 3 месяца назад
But why 1080p testing tho ?😅@@thecatdaddy1981
@Mack-op1vw
@Mack-op1vw 4 месяца назад
Ok, stupid question, does the 7800X3D still suffer AMDip, had to ask as I thought they fixed the issue with this particular chip ?
@2maac550
@2maac550 4 месяца назад
You only get 'AMDip' if you don't know what you are doing in the bios. Basically, leave FCLK alone
@lechf
@lechf 4 месяца назад
@@2maac550but MAX OVERCLOCK !!!!!
@vibhavcar
@vibhavcar 4 месяца назад
guys, i saw video where in warzone where he got dip on amd another guy tested it and he doesn't have dip at same palce , this guy is misleading his audience always telling about dip on amd Here is video for proof ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fAbqG9l6Z00.htmlsi=OGg7_TNXDdGmPOx6
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 4 месяца назад
Yes, because he doesn't know how to make Zen 4 stable ahaha@@vibhavcar
@vibhavcar
@vibhavcar 3 месяца назад
​@@mitsuhhhe is deleting my comment because the truth came out from video
@michaelfalabella6296
@michaelfalabella6296 2 месяца назад
you may be able to get bigger gains on a 7900xtx because SAM would work much better at 1080p with an AMD 7000 series :O (not challenging the 4090, this is just for CPU)
@tech-utuber2219
@tech-utuber2219 4 месяца назад
2:08 The reason that graphene can be a viable option to liquid metal is that it isn't messy, has excellent conductivity in the planar directions, and is so thin that the temperature drop across the thickness is very low.
@sibunadrol3639
@sibunadrol3639 3 месяца назад
this would be a lot more useful if it was also compared to stock alongside the other results
@Nore_258
@Nore_258 4 месяца назад
kitty
@silfrido1768
@silfrido1768 4 месяца назад
custom loops 🙏🏻
@thefreemarketeer765
@thefreemarketeer765 4 месяца назад
I had a 13900K, one of the cores became unstable. So I built a 7800X3D system over the weekend and it works better in every way than my 13900K build. Primarily play esports titles, CS2, OW2 with uncapped frame rates and both titles run better and stutter less. Both of them are great however and each have their strengths
@nivea878
@nivea878 4 месяца назад
sure one core became unstable 😂😂😂 excuses to buy AMdip
@thefreemarketeer765
@thefreemarketeer765 4 месяца назад
@@nivea878 zero AMDip experienced, smoother overall experience with less stutter on the 7800X3D. AMDip is likely caused by pushing the fabric speed to hard and causing instability
@user-qu6be7yf1g
@user-qu6be7yf1g 4 месяца назад
Sold my 13900ks system for a 7800x3d system due to instability couldn’t be happier.
@thefreemarketeer765
@thefreemarketeer765 4 месяца назад
@@user-qu6be7yf1g it’s a great no fuss chip, buy inexpensive 6000 CL30 Ram, enable expo and have fun gaming. Really no necessity to push beyond and tweak any further.
@redclaw72666
@redclaw72666 4 месяца назад
​​​@@thefreemarketeer765you keep telling yourself that when you play games lol might as well make a channel then to point it out instead of commenting
@officialyashvirgaming
@officialyashvirgaming 3 месяца назад
but hey 1080p you should have test on 1440p thats the sweet spot of most gamers and 7800X3D ? Ofcourse you gonna get 400fps on 1080p, my 7950X3D reach 600fps on 1080p
@DataQueue
@DataQueue 4 месяца назад
Thumbs up, but only for the Kitty!
@atanaspetrov4304
@atanaspetrov4304 4 месяца назад
Bykski rulez :) ❤ Lyla :)
@michaelsawczyn1704
@michaelsawczyn1704 4 месяца назад
Hmm... My new PC setup is right next to me on the desk - 10900k 5.2 4090FE - faster and quiet sounds quite good
@jovanpejic
@jovanpejic 4 месяца назад
6:08 i 10:14
@Battleneter
@Battleneter Месяц назад
Not really worth the effort for a 1.5% performance increase. If your already running a half decent AIO it should be virtually silent stock already under normal use.
@BelowAmbient
@BelowAmbient 4 месяца назад
You just reminded me why Im so glad I found your channel and didn't go with AM5
@valentin3186
@valentin3186 4 месяца назад
They must change the ihs for zen5. It's ridiculous
@Ronin_141_
@Ronin_141_ 4 месяца назад
Still have my 5800X3D, mostly just playing escape from Tarkov now.
@urktklirk9770
@urktklirk9770 4 месяца назад
Very nice CPU
@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027
@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027 4 месяца назад
Undervolted mine to 0.975v and went from 86c all the way down to 52c when I game❤ soo good for 1440p
@gymnastchannel7372
@gymnastchannel7372 2 месяца назад
Very similar experience. Uses 88w now for 4.45GHz all core with all cores unparked and idle off. Zero issues at -30 CO.
@psobbtutorials6792
@psobbtutorials6792 Месяц назад
@@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027 Does the 5800x3d get this much hotter than the 7800x3d? I'm using a custom fan curve with a cheap thermalright peerless assassin and I get temps between 52 to high 60s depending on the game. It's paired with a 7900xtx, so if you are running a 4090 that might push your cpu a bit more than mine is being pushed
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe 4 месяца назад
Amd platform keeps looking better and better almost wanna bite the big one
@joshhernandez8680
@joshhernandez8680 3 месяца назад
i clicked this video to help your channel, nobody cares about amd man... mouse backed immediately...
@cuongtang9539
@cuongtang9539 3 месяца назад
Didnt' you say your done with this cpu, that it sucks ? 🤣🤣 Jufes finally converted to A-massive-dip
@MrEdioss
@MrEdioss 20 дней назад
Lmao, wild beef crill
@lyteness859
@lyteness859 23 дня назад
dude has no idea what he’s saying what a disaster
@yayafitini
@yayafitini 3 месяца назад
OH SO YOUR VIDEO MADE 13K / 3 WEEKS BUT YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW EVERYTHING . LOL FOH THE VIDEO YOU ABOUT JAY MADE 17K IN 3 DAYS. YOUR OWN 13K 3WEEKS. I SEE.
@nidhoggcrowley
@nidhoggcrowley 4 месяца назад
AMDrip
@MrEdioss
@MrEdioss 20 дней назад
Beef crill
@bismuth7730
@bismuth7730 28 дней назад
ahhh the famous "7800x3d frame dips cause infinity fabric or some shit" lmaoo. sad
@catalinneculita4988
@catalinneculita4988 3 месяца назад
for AMDeep fanboys, just buy an Intel :))))
@gymnastchannel7372
@gymnastchannel7372 2 месяца назад
Meh, I use both. Looking forward to my Intel Meteor Lake laptop from work and may get a 14900ks for fun and tinkering
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