🤔 Comedian Reacts to BTS vs. K-POP: a video essay 🤔 

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Lmaooo maybe THAT’s why Samsung and Hyundai decided to have BTS as their ambassadors 🤣🤣🤣

it always angered me how the whole world listens to the english music while having other language as their native, but somehow it's so hard for eng speakers to listen to the different languages song. language privilege sucks

The video didnt mention it but another major reason ARMY frequently dont consider BTS kpop is because BTS and ARMY have been pushed out of the category by other kpop stans, especially those who think BTS is too westernized. BTS has really been forced out of kpop by those people yet are also not fully welcome in the western industry, either.

For me my main thing with people associating bts with kpop every time a video of "the dark side of kpop" you'd find jungkook or jimin's face in the thumbnail when it got nothing to do with them

In it he mentioned making a video essay on how the West's perception on K-Pop is wrong. He made it into a three part series and it's SO good, I really recommend it. The titles are (in order); 1. you're wrong about k-pop: a video essay 2. the media is wrong about k-pop 3. k-pop vs. orientalism: no more than a machine. It'd be really interesting to see your reaction!

36:06 yeah the vocal line have written some songs , V AND JK are actually working on their mixtapes they also have several songs out , JIMIN wrote promise and Christmas love , jin wrote tonight and abyss, there's a lot more I probably forgot hehe

songs written by vocal line (and i mean lyricly written) are mostly their solo bts song or solo projects aside bts. like Tae's Sweet Night, Winter Bear, etc, Jungkook's Begin, Still With You, etc, Jimin's Lie, Promise, etc, Jin's Abyss. they might use help to form their thought and intention in the way that would be pleasant to hear in a song, but it's still their raw feeling that they wanted to share. it just took them time to learn to understand music and it's creating to get their hands and mind on something that would be their own

Seriously, I love Jungkook's songwriting. He's behind Magic Shop (which he also produced) and Your Eyes Tell - some of the most beautiful BTS songs. And his solo song Still With You is my ringtone. I love that one so much too. He also cowrote the melody for Film Out. It's really not like the rappers sometimes graciously allow the vocal line to contribute with some ok songs or something. The vocal line might write less, but they're not joking about songwriting at all.

i totally agree on your making money from art vs. making art for money rant, and its so easy to tell which is which when you're a critical consumer. I was already a fan previously but REALLY fell in love with bts after their love yourself series because you could just feel the authenticity in the project. Then a few months later every idol group and their mother had a song out about loving yourself and it was so unsubtle and shallow feeling which made me kind of upset because they were using mental health as a cash grab after seeing it resonate with people

All of the vocalists have all written several songs, both for solo music and in BTS albums. JK has 16 official credits for writing, V has 15, Jin has 11, and Jimin has 9 (None of this is for composing or producing, just lyrics). Since HYYH era, most of them have been involved in writing songs for the whole groups. They aren't as involved as the rapline (RM: 173 credits, Suga: 124 credits, j-hope: 112 credits), but with each album they are becoming more and more involved in writing.

What did Samsung and Hyundai do? They made a deal and have BTS as ambassadors.

AAAAAAAGH!! YES YES YES YES YES!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I really appreciate this! I have yet to watch the video, so I’ll leave another comment here after I’ve finished watching it, but I hope if you liked this one you can react to his three part video series on Kpop, the three videos being titled “You’re Wrong About Kpop”/“The Media Is Wrong About Kpop”/“Kpop vs Orientalism”. They truly are one of the best video series I’ve seen on Kpop, and I think everyone who’s seen that video series from him has learned so much from it, me included! After those three videos I’ll leave you alone about bby gang’s videos and not keep pressuring you to watch his other stuff, unless you personally want to of course. I just really, really appreciate this reaction and your feedback, because you are the only reactor who I’ve mentioned bby gang’s videos to that actually communicated with me about being willing to react to it and then following through on that promise. So, really, thank you so freaking much, I feel very touched 😄. I hope you can try to find the time to react to that three part series, and take as much time as you need to react to it! After all, this is your reaction channel, you do what you are most comfortable with, but I know now I can trust your word as a consumer of your content so thank you for that

completely unrelated to the video, but can i just say you look extra fine in the thumbnail

vocalists have had their hands on plenty of songs- you've even reacted to some of them- one eg; Blue & Grey!

15:30 if you wanna see/hear how Pansori sounds like, this is a really popular Korean singer covering BTS - Spring day in pansori style: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ExWa5_Vmsx4.html

You haven’t reacted to IDOL! I think you’re right at the point where you can appreciate it for its whole value both in the cultural context and in the BTS story!

I've just been defending BTS in Bloomberg QuickTake Now's recent youtube community post about Butter breaking records. The comments are SO hateful and ignorant toward BTS. It was shocking to come across it. 😢

the term kpop was coined by a korean for an american publication around 20 years ago. it was primarily used by western kpop fans until just a few years ago. before the term became marketable and something to capitalize on, korea used their own word for pop music, which is 'gayo', and it referred to music that was popular and charted well regardless of what corner of the music industry it came from also I recommend reading bts' recent rolling stone interviews, rm addressed the kpop term again

PLEASE react to more of bby gang’s video essays, they’re all incredible. The next one is ‘your wrong about kpop: a video essay’

Elliott sang is really great. He has done a lot of cool videos and takes on bts and media and I highly recommend you watch his other stuff as well. especially "you're wrong about kpop: a video essay". you asked about the very colorful psychedelic mv in the background at one point. it is the mv for idol which is from the last album in the love yourself series. it's a great song, with a lot of references to korean culture that I think you would enjoy diving into. it's in my opinion one of the most important songs they have released. there were also clips in the video essay of a performance they did on mmas in 2018 of idol which is arguably one of their best stages of all time

29:21 the music video is "school of tears" it's a predebiut song criticizing the school system. It's better than NO in my opinion. And I recommend to check it outtttt!.... pls :>

2:43 and now they are representatives of both of those companies aha

25:15 hmmm, well i would say they’re similar but also quite different. gangnam in korea is known to be a very rich area, most people living there millionaires, with luxury apartments, as well as huge corporation headquartered in gangnam too. psy’s gangnam style is satirically criticising those who flex their wealth, as though they are from gangnam, but in reality, have little to no sophistication as highlighted in the music video (;the nerdy dancing, him gawking at a woman’s butt, etc.). on the other hand, spinebreaker is a direct criticism of children who piggyback or in fact exploit their parents’ labour for their own selfish materialistic desires.

So here are some songs written by the vocal line which is not in albums Jimin Christmas love Promise V Winter Bear Scenery Jin Abyss Tonight Jungkook Still with you

6:25 one time a journalist wrote an article on BTS. He said he did all his research on the plane trip to LA. 😭 When ARMYs confronted him because the whole article was tonally 'the dark side of k-pop', he said ARMYs attacked him. Like dude you're a journalist, do you have any integrity.

There are quite a few because they do contribute a lot in ways we sometimes don't realise, for example the Dis-ease bridge was written by Jimin. Suga describes it as a music camp. They all write and then they come together and choose what works best. For example v has shown us his version of spring day on Vlive. These are some of the songs that are credited to the vocal-line almost exclusively (also I am sure I am missing a few): Jin- Abyss (prepare for this one, you should read the accompanying note as well as it kind of highlights his mind space as he was writing this), Tonight, Moon (we actually saw him writing some of this in Bon voyage 4) Jimin-Promise (Break the Silence has footage of Jimin and RM discussing lyrics), Friends, Christmas love V- Blue and Grey (which you have already reacted to!) Scenery, Sweet Night, Winter Bear Jk - Still with you (You can see JK discussing lyrics with RM for this as well in IN the SOOP), Magic Shop, Stay, Film Out, Your Eyes Tell Most of these are put up on their Soundcloud account and most come with a note. Honestly everything on their SoundCloud is a treasure

(copied my comment from paetron cause yeah too lazy): oh and i agree with you about the genre part . i like certain artists not certain genres i even have no idea what my favourite artists are catagorized as (since i can't distinguish diffrent genres and don't care to) , and that is mostly due to the fact that i gravitate towards the lyrics more than anything . like my top three atists are bts stromae and sharmoofers which even tho i have no idea what genre they do i would say have different styles and different languages but the commun thing amongst them are relatable lyrics and strong messages lyrics that make you think and contemplate your whole life like you said

bby gang has a series of really really good documentaries about kpop and bts. i'd watch your reaction with pleasure 😌

Also examples of great surprise songs written/co-written and made by the vocal line who don't usually write or produce: Jimin - Promise, Lie, Friends JK - Still with you, Magic Shop V - Winter Bear, Stigma, Blue & Grey Jin - Abyss, Moon, Epiphany

36:18 Absolutely !!! Magic Shop is probably Jungkook's must known song, although he's also written and composed others recently (Still With You and Your Eyes Tell are BEAUTIFUL) Taehyung has composed and written a lot of his own songs, which are very soulful and even veer off into classical music territory - Winter Bear, Scenery, Sweet Night, Snow Flower Jimin wrote and composed "Promise" (a very sweet song about his mental health growth) and has lots of various other types of song-creation credits (e.g. he made the bridge in "Dis-ease") Jin made "Tonight" and "Abyss", both very beautiful songs that I strongly recommend because they have lyrics on deep, complex topics (the death of his pets and imposter syndrome, respectively) Taekook have been steadily working away at their own mixtapes, probably for years at this point There's also collabs - "4 o'clock" by RM and V, "It's definitely you"/"Even if I die, it's you" by V and Jin...

please check out his other video essays!! they're super well made and super informative :) also just fyi, BTS are the face of both Samsung and Hyundai and the MV you were asking about is their song Idol

about korean styled music: i am not an expert to give you an example of what exactly was mentioned here, but i happened to know So-Hee and she is an incredible korean artist who specializes in traditional Korean music known as gugak. she did a cover of bts' spring day and it sounds simultaneously beautiful and nothing like the original. and there's also one performance of her that shook me to the core: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7eliY0dFAEY.html you'd not regret i promise she's incredible

YESSS you can't even imagine how happy I am you reacted to this :D

Blood, Sweat & Tears' melody was written by JImin and he co produced Friends. Love is not over is written and composed by Jin and Jungkook who also wrote Stay and produced magic shop and your eyes tell. Taehyung wrote Blue and Grey + co wrote and co produced hug me tight. and of course they contributed in their solo songs on BTS's albums (if i missed any please comment them)

The colorful mv is Idol... it's trippy and insane and amazing.

42:19 Kpop doesnt only have a stigma in the West, they have a stigma in most of the Asian countries too. Take for example my country, most but not all of the people here immediately think they're gay and untalented because they're so used to artists that belt their songs and men according to them arent supposed to be cute and wear makeup. 🙃 Several times I've had schoolmates and relatives who got curious to the music I was listening to on my earphones, when I tell them who or what it was they immediately frown like it was a bad thing to listen to Kpop 🙄 spurring words like "But you dont understand it" and "They're gay or they look gay" as if looking gay was bad. 😞

The Only difference between kpop and western music is the amount of effort artist put in.

There is a world full of fun & beautiful music, something for every taste, yet so many miss out just because they choose not to give it a chance because its in another language.

There's some songs that's co-written or co-produced by the vocal line.

Omg I will die for a Comedian+ Bby Gang collab. Both of you are my favorite BTS commentary channels! Also stuffs... 1) the mv on crack is BTS’s “Idol” 2) The vocal line production credits, I’m not super knowledgeable on specific credits but I know JK had a part in writing “Magic Shop” and “Stay”, V originally intended “Blue and Grey” to be on his personal mixtape but the group ended up adding it to the BE album (the biggest change being rewriting the lyrics from English to Korean), Jimin also mentioned that he helped with the bridge of “Dis-ease”. They have many more credits, but these are the ones I know off the top of my head... All of the vocal line have songs they wrote personally released on sound cloud, some examples: JK “Still with you”, V “Winter Bear”, Jimin “Promise”, Jin “Tonight”... A funny side note, typically when they compose an album, all of them prepare lyrics and music and as the songs develop they pick from what everyone has come up with but it’s commonly joked that RM is just so good at what he does that his work is chosen most often during the writing process.

48:05 that is the "Idol" music video and I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it! It's about this Artist vs. Idol thing that gets thrown around BTS a lot which coincidentally perfectly connects with the video you just watched. About the other member's contribution to songs: I don't like to label songs as "x-members song" in terms of production and lyrics because especially solo stans see that and run with it but especially their solo songs (both soundcloud releases and in albums like eg. Wings) generally have a lot of input from the respective member (including the vocal line). There are also group songs which vocal line helped to create (eg. Magic Shop, Film Out) but I think it is most noticably in solo work. As a side note I just really recommend the Wings album solo songs, they are all really beautiful and introspective! Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it and I hope you'll check out more from bby gang. I think you'd like the "the media is wrong about kpop" series a lot!

8:21 I like Elliot too, he’s such a calm, factual, straightforward, honest person, especially when he approaches his journalism and video essays, it’s absolutely WONDERFUL to see!! 😄 I’m so happy I discovered his channel! 12:06 Yeah, the person speaking, Elliot is a musician and has studied and been interested in both music and journalism intensely. 12:30 Yes!! I’m so glad you see it! This video is EXTREMELY well researched and made, but yet SO underrated and barely mentioned or talked about, largely because people don’t know about it. Which is why I recommended it to 40 different people I’m subscribed to, and yet you are the only one out of the 40 to actually see my comment, actually type out a response, and then watch it, which is why I’m screaming 😂 I’m so happy you love the video and how well it’s researched, it truly is brilliantly done and I learned SO much from it and his other videos! 14:08 Now, regarding your question I don’t know who started calling kpop, “kpop”, in the first place. I know it was first called that in the west, and the term “kpop” was only started to become a commonly heard term around either 2009 or 2012, before that time the term “idol music” was used in SK way back around the mid 1990s, around the time when the first idol music company, SM Entertainment, was created, and in that sense the first time idol music became industrious. Idol music itself, before become industrious due to SM Entertainment, was birthed by the group Seo Taiji and Boys, a group which Elliot talks about later in this video as well as in his three part Kpop video essay series. In SK they still call it to this day “idol music” but everywhere else in the West, especially here in the US, we call it “Kpop”. Honestly, your question is kind of answered and given background and context in Elliot’s three part Kpop video series. 14:55 Don’t worry if you have to rewatch Elliot’s videos a few times to fully grasp everything, he packs a lot into them, but truthfully I think that’s what makes his videos even better! The rewatch value is what makes his videos so great and so educational, because you learn and remember something new every rewatch and thus become a smarter and wiser consumer of Kpop and BTS! You are a smarter person for rewatching the video, not for trying to rely on only memory for knowledge 16:40 Again, don’t worry about retaining all the info in Elliot’s videos, it’s right there for you to rewatch at any time 🙂 That’s the beauty of the format of RU-vid and video, as well as the beauty of Elliot’s research skills because you know his videos and the info about Korean music in them are something you can rely on and trust. 17:02 There we go!! Seo Taiji and Boys! Boom! First and most influential people in current SK music history and the pioneers of idol music! 20:12 That’s why I like Elliot’s videos so much, he breaks down this complex paper into simple terms and those simple terms are what he is speaking, making the subject more understandable. 21:45 No, no! No apologies needed! It shows that Elliot’s video makes you really think about things and question thing, and therefore learn more, so don’t worry, you are doing exactly what Elliot wanted everyone watching his video’s to do: think and question, and therefore learn and grow. 36:11 Now, I don’t know too well to answer your question, so you might want to trust other comments more than my own, but I’m pretty sure most of the solos by the vocal line are written by them, ones I can think off the top of my head are Abyss and Awake by Jin, Lie by Jimin, Your Eyes Tell and Euphoria by Jungkook, and Winter Bear and Sweet Night by V 37:50 I’m so enjoying it and loving it man! You’re reaction is great, and I’m so happy you love the video so far! 44:05 YES!! Everything you are talking about the Korean idol system and how it’s not as different from the Western music industry as most people think is SPOT ON, that’s what Elliot goes into and explains as well in his three part Kpop video essay (sorry to hype those essays so much throughout this comment, it’s just everything you are hitting on in your commentary is what Elliot talks about and goes in depth with in his three part video essay on Kpop 😂) and yes, like you said, someone could write a whole essay on this industry and how different/not different it is from the West is EXACTLY what Elliot did! That’s the three part video essay thing he did! That’s what he talks about! 😂 I’m just finding it so hilarious that you’re hitting on all these points in Elliot’s three part essay and then you say “someone could write an essay on this” and I’m like, COMEDIAN, IT’S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO WATCH IT AAAGH!! 😂😂 Okay, I'm calm now. 😁 48:07 That’s their song Idol! They were facing a lot of criticism for becoming too “Western” with their breakout into the US at the time and slammed back with the Idol song and mv 54:00 WOW, you subscribed!! Yaaaay!! I loved that you loved him! I agree about the RU-vid platform sentiment 54:35 I’ve been a fangirl, my dude, welcome to the club 😎 I’ve followed all his lives and videos and such, and I think he would love to hang out and talk with you one day! You guys have the same mindset and thought process so I could see you guys becoming friends or RU-vid buddies! 🤗 Okay, so the three part essay I keep mentioning throughout this comment is on his channel and the titles for each are: “You’re Wrong About Kpop”/“The Media Is Wrong About Kpop”/“Kpop vs Orientalism” It’s a lot harder to get through because of how much info is on it about Korean music and history in general but SO WORTH IT once you wrap your mind around it! It’ll take a few watches to fully process, but OH MY GOD is it so good! So I recommend! Thank you so much for reading this insanely long comment about your entire video and your consideration for me and what I have to say. I really hope I haven’t come across as too pushy it’s just, as you just saw, Elliot’s videos are too good to go unnoticed and too many reactors either don’t react to my comments about it, or do and then don’t watch or upload any video about what I suggested, so to get this feedback and commitment from you just really startled and excited me, which is also why I was yelling so much in the comment section of this video 😂 I’m so happy you loved it and I can’t wait for more content from you regarding BTS, bby gang’s vids, or just you! 🤗 Have a great week!

Bby Gang is à channel I absolutely love and wish had more viewers. So many of their essays Are SO Good and worth a watch, for example the kpop in media series. I‘m so glad you found them,

All 4 vocal line members write melodies, hook, bridge and stuff for their songs... some time those get chosen, some times they don't. But in more strict sense of producing and stuff, list of songs produced/written/composed by vocal line 1. Blue and Grey ( By V. It was supposed to be in his solo mixtape). He also co-produced, co-composed BTS's song like Hold me tight, Boys with Fun. He has writing credits for Run, Stigma, Inner Child. 2. Film Out, Magic Shop, Stay, Your Eyes Tell (by JK. Later 2 were supposed to be in his mixtape). He has credits for Run, Dead Leaves, My Time. 3.Jungkook and Jin co-produced a song from their HYYH album Love is Not over ( it was back in 2015). Jin has credits for Awake, Moon, Stay also. 4. Jimin is producer and lyricist (?) for a song called Friends. He has credits for Lie, Dis-ease. So as you can see, vocal line members are sometimes producer, composer of their songs, but other than that they have a lot of credits here and there. 5. All of their SoundCloud free release, those are mostly written/produced/composed by members individually, or they contribute a big big part. Songs are - 4 o'clock, Scenery, Winter Bear, Snow Flower ( by V). Christmas Love, Promise ( By Jimin). Abyss, Tonight (by Jin). Still with you ( by JK). 6. V has an OST Sweet Night for a k-drama. ( it was also supposed to be in his mixtape). He did a lot of producing, composing and writing lyrics for this song. So, yeah BTS vocal line has a big part in those areas as well.

I LOVED your input in this, i‘m amazed by what you have to say over and over again. Don’t stop.

Jungkook produced Magic shop, Love is not over, Still with you. Composed two japnese OSTs Your eyes tell and Film out. He has credit as writer in over 20 songs. And credit on chorus in almost every BTS song..... Yes, he is quite involved.

Thanks for reacting to this video, I forgot how good this video essay is, and it’s interesting listening to it again after watching the Rise of Bangtan and being more familiar with BTS’ story. I definitely think you should watch American Hustle Life, it was a crucial part of BTS’ development and gets a bit of an unfair rap from fans because of the way BTS was treated, but it also has a lot of adorable and funny moments.

Kpop is an industry, but kpop songs/MVs also has characteristics (according to me). Like when I hear a Eurovisions song (only europeans get it) I can tell; "Ah! Yes of course this is a eurovision song". Kpop songs are all things in one package which makes them very theatrical. That often leads to these songs not being "radio friendly" which I'm a ok with since "radio friendly" is bs anyways.

I agree with him, I think they are Kpop but also something else. The problem comes when people don't understand that they can't be limited or defined by that label only. I wish you would stop underestimating yourself, what you're saying is not "ridiculous", it's actually very interesting and adds a lot to the debate. Even if you were "joking" it can't be good to put yourself down all the time 🤷‍♀️ Try being kinder to yourself, Purple you 💜

48:00 it’s the music video for Idol

I stopped the video just to say that I don't recognize myself having ADHD but what you said about reading stuff in English is so true. I'm currently trying to finish my MA disseration and there are many books and articles that I have to read (all in English when it's not even my first language) and I hate it. it's the most annoying part about doing research. I want just results and a summary but no I have to read every single word and I have to write many words while I like to say the results directly!

36:03 yes there are in fact songs written by the vocalist, some of them tend to be unofficial releases tho (songs which are released om soundcloud) for example for jin, recently released abyss a song made and self-produced by him as well as 'tonight' a few years ago. As for v, he's actually released a lot of stuff as well for the past few years, in fact he's currently working on his mixtape, but as for now he's released 4 o'clock (with RM), Scenery, Winter Bear, and Snow Flower. jimin as well, who released Promise and Christmas love on SoundCloud. JK has a lot of credits especially in producing. Like taehyung, jungkook has also veen working on his mixtape and in fact released a teaser for one called "Decalcomania" back in 2019 which sadly we still haven't heard the complete version as of now😭😭 and also released his own song called "Still With You" as part of their anniversary festa celebration. As for the official tracks, they were often credited as co-writers them and co-producers, a few examples of these are boyz with fun wherein jimin, jin, and taehyung were co-writers along with the rapline, love is not over which in jin and jungkook are co-writers and jk also being a co-producer. In their solo songs too they often take a huge part in making it like jin in awake and moon, jimin's solo lie and joint song with taehyung "Friends". In fact you can see from their more recent works a lot more of the members'(vocal line) name's in the song credits. Especially in the albums Map of the Soul: 7 and BE alot of members particularly in BE since its a self-directed album by the members themselves. In fact, all 7 members have song credits in KOMCA (Korea Music Copyright Association) RM - 171 songs Jin - 11 songs SUGA - 124 songs j-hope - 112 songs Jimin - 9 songs V - 15 songs Jungkook - 15 songs In fact you can simply search it up in google or search the members' song credits throughout the years (preferably in bts' wiki page bts.fandom.com/wiki/BTS_Wiki you can go to each member's page or just look up credits on the albums or song details) I also have here a link created by another fellow army on how to Check BTS's Official Song Credits: docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1clTYpKkXzXeQOj4FtaS6JE37HUB2QqgnVnYBqt2PE7I/mobilebasic Edit: you know what imma just drop a tweet thread by an army for more and complete details😅 twitter.com/turnofphase/status/1372331763142381571?s=19

i completely agree on the fact that the bad image western ppl have of kpop is mainly rooted in racism, xenophobia, sexism and even homophobia, I would say idk about America, but I live in Brazil and ppl say so often that kpop is gay and that the men look like girls (1. having a "feminine image" doesn't make a man gay. 2. what's the matter if they are gay. 3. it shows A LOT here how west cannot see an Asian man as being masculine, just by being Asian, a man would lose the "masculinity" image, cuz this image is a social construct and it has never been associated with Asian man, period.) also, the reduction of girls tastes on the internet as well still amazes me, how ppl who think so highly of themselves, as intellectually progressive, but still judge young girls for liking kpop/pop music or many other things. all rooted on sexism, cuz men crying or physically fighting themselves over sports is fine, but girls liking a singer is dumb. it's actually crazy how it is still accepted to hate on kpop this way, because SO MANY politically correct people have this same mentality of judging the music, the artists and the fans just for their own existence. oh boy, I love talking about this subject, there is a video about orientalism and bts from this guy as well which I think is very important and you should watch too. will be waiting to comment an essay there as well lol.

That vivid colour explosion of a video that you wanted to check out is called IDOL! Love to you and your furry friends

You haven't seen the Idol music video yet???!?! Jesus Christ, watch it right now. It's fantastic. Trippy as hell. Good message, too.

If you are interested in traditional pansori singing, song sohee is a good place to start since shes a modern pansori singer that utilizes the vocal techniques of the genre. One of my favorite performances from her is of the Haeundae Elegy

Yes the answer is a big FAT yes of course they have songs they've written themselves as individuals and some where they've teamed up with other members.

AAAAGH!! YOU GAVE ME A SHOUT OUT!! YOU’RE WELCOME COMEDIAN, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS!! Okay, back to the whole video now

i found your channel recently and i enjoy it so much. i love the way you talk about bts and the choice of videos you react to, i love your personality! i relate to you a lot on some stuff so i subbed and yeah!! i really like what you do!!

Jin has written abyss and tonight, Jimin has written promise, V has written Scenery and Jungkook has written still with you and (these are just some off the top of my head)

Love your thoughtful commentary on the video. I absolutely loved it! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

i'm too tired to write a mini-essay about it, maybe i'll come back to it, but being a person who likes all genres except country, i just see all the genres in the world as a delightful little library where each label and sublabel and subsublabel are like a like a box of chocolates, full of fun surprises and unique twists

oh yess all the members have written some songs. Jungkook also written produced a lot of great titles, v mades songs as well like blue and grey. In fact all bts songs with EDM influence are made by jk. He has this great song called 'still with you' I hiiiighly recommend it, the lyrics are top notch.

the vocal line have released solo songs but not as official releases! (apart from sweet night, by V, which was part of the soundtrack for K-drama “Itaewon Class”) they’ve done quite a few free songs for fans on soundcloud!

agree with everything you said! glad i decided to click on your video, also relate dude as someone with adhd, god i cant read walls of text for the life of me. research papers/articles are my worst nightmare

I really like when you react and talk about more serious stuff like this! ur very insightful

That's one of the funniest pronunciations of Hyundai I've heard 🤣 hajunday

Hah! Samsung and Hyundai's response was to partner up. BTS are sponsors of both Samsung phones and Hyundai vehicles.

it's almost like we are socially forced to insist that bts isn't kpop not because we don't like kpop but because we know that people don't like kpop due to the preconception they have about it. we know that a kpop label attached to the name of bts would cause a lot of unfair judgement on them and at the same time assign their success to the amplified image of kpop. every time it's like "they are popular because they do all these kpop things and all these kpop things are so bad and artificial that bts' success can't be good and deserved". we fight the conception of bts being kpop because once media claims that they are, media stops seeing them as individual group of artists with their own path and their own art. they say it's an article about bts but then they talk about kpop only, as if bts comes in one package with every other popular kpop group kpop by itself isn't something actually bad or scary, so probably the more right thing to do is to destigmatize kpop by the image of bts. but then there comes the inside-kpop relations and bts' history, all the struggles that this indeed industry-or-whatever made bts come through in the beginning and how they are trying to unapologetically use bts as their shield or a horse to ride on now. that's a more complex discussion that also influence the answer on a question should army detach bts from kpop or not

Please react to “The Mistreatment of BTS”, this video gave me lots of insights that I did not have even when I’ve been an Army for 2 years

Thank you for the reaction, I enjoyed it very much ^^

also i would recommend reading up on the occupation of the korean peninsula by japan, and the korean war (actually led by the ussr and usa) that caused the north and south to split

Even those songs were for a reason for them eg to help people get through Covid it was extremely hard for many people in the planet. We all need a 'pick me up' from time to time and boy did we need one due to covid.

The music video you want to watch is "Idol"!! You should totally react to it!!!

Yes! My favourite "reactionist" with my favourite RU-vidr! Thank you!

you should check bby gang's videos "the media is wrong about kpop" and "kpop vs orientalism: no more than a machine", too. they dive deeper into the prejudice, surrounding kpop.

Songs by the vocal line, "Still with you" is written and produced by Jungkook, it's one of my top BTS tracks, just beautiful, definitely take a listen, the same with the song "Promise" composed by Jimin and lyrics by jimin. There's a very subtle thing going on in the lyrics of promise that can make or break the song, I think doolset as always should have a good translation.. For Jin moon comes to mind, he had the idea for the moon lyrics during one of their travel shows I think, and V wrote lyrics for Stigma I'm actually not clear on what track he most contributed to, but definitely stigma and sweet night partially

I want to clarify another thing that he forgot to mention - K-pop is a very common term used in Asia to clarify to listeners which country the artist comes from - that’s why there’s also Jpop (Japanese), Cpop (Chinese), Vpop (Vietnamese) etc. It’s the exact same as UK/US pop, Latin Pop, etc. where often the “UK/US” is dropped because both speak the same language. The western industry would’t know this and so they would use Kpop as a “genre” when it really isn’t. It’s just popular music that people enjoy. Artists coming from outside US like Avicii, David Guetta, Rita Ora, Dua Lipa.. never get branded ask UK pop or Swedish/French so Korean artists shouldn’t be slapped with that “K” either. It’s just music that people enjoy. Besides, BTS when coming for the US market already changed their sound quite a lot to appeal to the taste of an average general-pop listener. Dynamite and Butter sound quite different from their earlier songs, so truly they don’t wouldnt fit in that Kpop category anymore even if we’re gonna consider Kpop to be a genre. The main global music stage (ie US) is set in its ways how it thinks the “right” music should sound and look like, and so anything that’s slightly different coming from a foreigner would be put into a different category. However I bet you if a US/UK artist did the exact same thing in English it would be hailed as revolutionary. The way Taylor Swift was hailed as genius marketer when she released 4 versions of the same album, when Kpop have been doing that for decades and got slammed in western news as “inorganic tactics” to get boost sales. That’s the hypocrisy that I cannot get over.

The psychedelic, trippy video is IDOL.

As a classically trained instrumentalist, I would say that genre is technically not an actual thing in music. There are forms that a song can take, but anything beyond that is all arbitrary and largely insignificant. If someone says something about genre, they are generally trying to describe something about the music that is not actually musical, such as the time the music was made, the place the music was made, the demographic the music was a herald of, or even the demographic the distributors of the music wished to cater to. In my experience, I use genre to explain to a non-musician what I’m doing without jargon-ing them, and if musicians use genre with each other it is usually used to describe the flavor of concentration and intensity in their practice/rehearsal room. When I tell someone I like BTS, if they ask any questions about them I tend to slide into theory and particulars instead of generalizations anyway. And if they say “oh, that K-pop group?” Or “oh, that boy band?” Or “oh, that group with that day-gee-da guy? Man, that scar on his eye is so hard!” My regular answer is a half shrug and a “Sure. Do you have a favorite artist?” But that is because I find it interesting how many people lacking in opinion themselves enjoy guiding and shaping the opinions of others.

.......IF YOU.....REACT To AMERICAN HUSTLE LIFE.......I WILL join your Patreon! I love this ARMY.....(ok, emotional outburst finished XD)

For example Magic Shop was written and produced by Jungkook and Blue and Grey by V mostly (the rap parts by the rappers) and as someone else said aready, the vocalist's own work is mostly soloprojects.. Btw abt dynamite, it's actually grown on me, bc I read that they just thought they'd make a fun song to give people happy vibes during the pandemic as a sort of distraction/ comfort and never thought it would blow up like this. Also I do feel like the video of them having fun etc is very authentic (+ I love MJ so the choreo just gave me flashbacks lol)

21:30 100% they constantly talk about word choice, about agonizing over making "pop" making lyrics that convey the message but can be sung along to...in other words, simple language for weighty topics

48:10 that's the IDOL MV

It is the idol mv is the crazy colors and visuals one.

Well, you react to Blue and Grey, it was produced and wrote by Taehyung. After the rapline add their raps. You need to react to the solos of the vocal line, mainly the ones of soundcloud.

I'm happy you are reacting to this. I think Elliot has very interesting/informative videos. He does great livestreams with guests discussing BTS.

btw 48:05 that music video is for their song IDOL in which they embrace their title of kpop idols and explore what it means to them and how it isn't a disparaging term to them anymore. yk since a lot of people shame idol music because of its "manufactured" nature and all that the video feels very in line with the theme of the song imo lol

Suggestions: Jimin: Promise, Christmas Love Tae (V): Winter Bear, Scenery Jungkook: Still with you Jin: Abyss (They've been a part of many other songs, but these are ones I know they've done pretty much by themselves, even tho ofc they had help too, like RM helped with Promise etc)

Love this video💗 bby gang is cool yeah You’ve really come a long way. I’m glad I’m on this journey (re)discovering bts with you through ur reactions.

And this video was less than 2 years ago... Before dynamite. Now are many times more bigger actually lol Seo Taiji is a legend and he did a collab with BTS... And it was basically a moment where he passed the torch to them :) to BTS he was and still is a real legend and icon, so i think they were super Happy at the time. Epik High also is a group that bts took as insipiration and then collab together still today. Ps: the video that u want to check is called "IDOL" and you really need to watch the "Explained by a Korean" video by DKDKTV right after, cause their video gives more cultural context and makes u understand the whole song and video deeply :)

there are no boundaries in music for me. I listen to all genres and I listen to songs in very different languages. I didn't use to have a clear idea about genres until I got in stan twt and understood all the bs going around genres and categorization. The only variable in music for me is is it good? do I like it or not? it's as simple as that. I give a try, listen and then judge according to my personal taste

you are always on point

yes im pretty sure jungkook wrote magic shop and your eyes tell even though they were performed by all of bts , they have their own solo songs such as jimin promise, jin abyss, v sweet night and winter bear, jungkook still with you ...there are a few more i think

Omg im so glad you watched Elliot's stuff, his videos are *amazing* and the way he articulates everything, even on the non kpop related vids, it's just chief kiss, he has another essay series about kpop on bbygang channel that i really reccomend, even if you dont react to it you should check them out on your own cause they really help to put things in perspective imo

The music video is called Idol...in think you would like it the beat is 'gqom' South African EDM/house.

"BTS vs. Kpop" oh boy, get the popcorn and the pitchforks

I love that you’re doing more of these kind of videos!!! His video called you’re wrong about Kpop is also super interesting

Really loved your commentary!