🤔What About from a Rifle?🤔 

Not surprised on thst 185 grain 44 magnum bullet. It was far to light and traveling way to fast out of a carbine length barrel. It is better suited to pistol length barrels. If you using a 44 magnum out of a rifle barrel, you need at least a 240 grain or heavier bullet. That should reduce the velocity a good deal and give better performance out of tour rifle carbine.

Awesome video I don't think anyone had done a 158 grain 357 mag soft point in a rifle video on any other RU-vid channel. This was a great analytical contribution.

Making me miss my Marlin 44 Magnum, I used Hornady 240gr JHP and In my Ruger Redhawk and they were great, My Sister orders from Amazon a lot, So I told her to let me give you the link to my friends channel as it helps the channel and she agreed, She spends quite a bit on Amazon so you will get the hook up, Good test, Thanks Brian. 👍

Great test Would love to see the same test repeated with all calibers using the same brand of manufacture , all loaded with Barnes copper or maker copper bullets That 44 magnum must of been a varmint projectile loading , ultra thin jacket

Good jelly Test Tools Really enjoyed it 👍🏼Tools Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

PMC has a 44 mag 240gr TCSP bullet that probably performs better at carbine velocities.

Really nice test!!! 👊👍

“It’s Tools’ fault!” Lol…😎🥃💥👊🏻💥

That color case hardened carbine is a beauty there Tools 👍🇺🇲👍

And to think cops used to carry 38s. Out of 6in service revolvers they were at about 750fps

Great info bud.

Another informative video thank you sir!

It's weird to watch this video and the videos that you do today. The different stuff all around. The cameras, choronos and from revolvers to great lever actions.

To all the pmc bronze haters this is a solid fact pmc bronze is easily top 3 hand gun ammunition and it could easily be argued that it the no1 most consistent ammunition in production today, And its not just 357 38 44 but 40 9mm 10mm 45 name any caliber that they make and you won't find another ammo company with this level of consistent performance anywhere else they have nailed it for consistency, Every full metal hollow point throughout the calibres performs equal to any boutique fmj ammunition you care to mention their hollow points are the best non expanding rounds in the market, They obviously went to incredible effort to achieve this incredible consistency bravo. Edit I didn't realise some were hunting ammo but the point stands the ammo is loaded to weak for short barrels, But this shows that they have the potential to be solid hand gun ammo if they actually loaded them properly, I don't understand what they are thinking when they make the decision to load their rounds with such low fps if they just filled the case up to even above where federal is and just charged extra for the extra powder their reputation would very quickly change baffling.

Instead Tools I’m trying to find a barrel to go on my Rossi single shot rifle in 44mag be safe buddy see ya one of these days buddy GOD BLESS

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I was surprised on the 38 spl I didn't think it would perform like it did. Awesome video thanks! The 44 was disappointing.

Any excuse to use a Henry rifle- totally legit reason, as if you need one🤣🤣

Can you check the ammo inc 44 mag in a rifle?

That was definitely a weak 357 magnum. It should have been at least 1750 fps

Excellent results, Tools! The +P 38 SPL. Surprised me in a good way. Rifles also have a benefit in that they are less noisy than hand tools. Great info, Sir!

38 Spec. +P was unexpected. An efficient round out of that 20" barrel.

Amazing how much variance in performance you get with different length barrels. Great test. 👍👊🇺🇸

That 44 may have been a bit short, but dang explosive damage , the 357 and 38 did very good , thanks for sharing

The old FBI .38 Special +P 158 gr SWCHP is a very serious load. It may be magic ✨. That one might be losing speed potential in a 20" tube you would have to try a 16" to find out.

I imagine that 38 felt like shooting a 22 and would be great for someone recoil sensitive! I am glad to see the PMC 357 did well in the rifle, adequate hunting round for sure! I have about 600rds of that but no rifle (yet) just 6" revolver and I like how it shoots in it! It did great! That 44 tho lol she flyin to pieces captain!! 🚀💥!! It would be interesting to see how the Federal and Remington rounds do with similar projectiles! Have a good one brother thanks for the awesome tests! Good stuff! 👍

Very good video! And yes, I was not surprised a bit. The 180 44Mag is not designed for that velocity. Knew it was going to come apart. Unless going to a 240gr JSP, they're likely to come apart. One of the reasons I sold my 44Mag levergun. The 357Mag and the 38hp, well, I expected both to do well. One reason why I cast a 160gr Keith SWC HP for both. Brutal on the hogs and coyotes that roam around my woods. Only thing meaner is my Henry Big Boy in 45 Colt. A 255gr cast SWC from a 20" barrel is a genuine hoss! Love your channel and always look forward to seeing you test and evaluate things with your no nonsense methods. 👍

Great performance on the 357 and 38spl +p which says to me that high velocity does not always mean you will or will not get good performance because that was pretty bad for the 44. 👍👍thanks for the video tools

Definitely surprised me! I thought the soft point was doomed and the 44mag I thought it wouldve been one of the better performers. I assumed the HTP would do well.

That 44 sure hit with good power but don't like that it came apart. Actually thought fps on 38 & 357 would be higher but expanded well. Appreciate your time. 👍 🇺🇸 🙏

This test was a very good idea, feel like there was something to be learned.

It's incredible to see range of performance. I love this channel! 🇺🇸

I get 2300 FPS from Remington’s 180 grain JSP factory load in my rifle for comparison to PMC.

👍😊🎯 those are some interesting results , that 44💥🤷‍♂️ they be good for steel plinking. How far away can you hit a block 25,30 yards to see if they still 💥.

Never had a problem with the PMC Bronze hunting 357 158 SP getting to expand out of 6.5in Ruger Blackhawk. Good hunting load. The 4in that was tested might just be too short to get the velocity.

I figured somebody would have done a 10/22 video givin the date . Nice rifle though

👍 Still not impressed by the 38 . If it takes a rifle to get it to do what it should out of a hand gun I don't see much use for it in my arsenal !

Aye....pmc is junked range fodder...had higher hopes for it....Thanks for the test Tools....but federal ae is where it's at for jsp from a lever gun for hunting....too bad I have more pmc than federal.

Be blessed

As far as stopping power I give it to the 44. It might not have depth but it hit like a freight train 🚂. Give me the 357.

Love those 44's . Just sucks I'm poor

They did good except for the 44 that was sad I expected way better from a 44 Stay Safe and God Bless enjoy your weekend 🙏🙏

You don't have nearly enough subscribers that you deserve for thr great content. One thing I would like is to see how some rifle ammo tests at 200 or 300 yards due to that being a normal shot for us western hunters ( alot of the time shots are taken much further than that)

Now you need a pcc in 9mm ,10mm, 45acp, 40, and so when you do your testing with hollowpoints we can see which ones work with the added velocity. I would be happy if you just got one in 9mm as that is what I have and I am selfish😁.

Nice test to perform! I agree with your assessment of all three rounds. The one that surprised me the most was the .44 Magnum. It hit the gel block with incredible force. Yet the depth was so shallow. While the .38 Special gets considerably less boost in performance compared to the magnums, I've noticed that(at least in standard pressure rounds) they are incredibly quiet. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your tests like this with the lever action .357 Mag.

How does PMC bronze JSP 158g do in a 6inch revolver? I'd like to hunt deer with it, and have 400rds of it

That 38 special definitely was maxed out

Consistently a good job keeping the microphone volume appropriate so people can hear you. Solid informative videos.

Stumbled across your channel a few weeks ago and subscribed right away. Love your tests and delivery. Your videos are a pleasure to watch. Keep it up. BTW, do you ever wear any other hats?

Great video bud!! Miss your live shows! You have to bring back your live shows tools!!!

This test reminded me why . 38 Special and . 357 mag are really among the most useful ever invented. You could head for the woods with a . 38 Spec revolver and a . 357 carbine and never skip a beat for defense or food in most places. And also rarely need full power mag ammo either.

Been looking for this test, seems like a soft point is the optimal hunting cartridge for 357 rifle. Great expansion and penetration. Would be curious how PMC stacks up against Federal or Remington in a soft point. I was a little surprised at the velocity of the PMC 357 158 gr, thought it would be a little higher. 20" barrel might actually be slowing it down a little, 16 - 17 inches seems to be the optimal length for velocity.

Unfortunately there isn't a lot of reviews on the PMC 44 mag 180gr, yours being one of the very few videos on it. I have the Taurus raging hunter 44 mag 8.37" barrel. I just ordered some of the 44 mag pmc. My brother has a chrono so I'll find out what it does with the 8.37" barrel.

45-70 blow through 3 blocks.Hornady 325 grain FTX.😊😊😊 Just watched it.

Could you test the Federal American Eagle 357 Magnum 158 grain Softpoint from the Rifle ,from what I am seeing they are about $35.00 for a box of 50 rounds. Might be a good relatively inexpensive Deer hunting round for the 357 carbine? Heck, might be a good defensive round as well !

I really think that 38 special load would make a good low recoil ,low muzzle blast Load "as it is subsonic" for a 38 special/357 magnum Carbine or Rifle load ,I think I am going to use that in my Rossi 92 38Special/357 Magnum with 16 inch barrel. I am also interested in Ammo for 44 Special ammo for use in another Rossi 92 44/Special/44 Magnum I have that has a 16 inch barrel. I am interested in 44 Special ammo that has simililar characteristic's to the 38 special load tested in this video , Subsonic from a 16 inch barrel for low blast and recoil and a hollowpoint for Expansion. Does not even have to be a Semiwadcutter Lead hollowpoint, just a bullet that will expand and be subsonic for low recoil and blast. Do you know of any 44 special ammo with those attributes ? Thank you much

I’ve never heard of a .44 Magnum varmint round! Can you imagine that on a ground hog or other nuisance critters?! 😮😂

Brother, I am very curious about a couple of loads from a rifle. One is the .38spl FBI load which I think might be very interesting. The other is a weird one but I am a curious cat. That is the .38spl HBWC target load. I know they probably wouldn't feed but if you could single load it would be interesting to see what that soft WC would do at higher velocity.

Absolutely not surprised at all on any of your three loads tests. At rifle velocities in that 44 magnum 180 grain as exspected would come apart. That light weight bullet was designed for pistol velocities in shorter barrels at around 1300 to 1350 fps and not 1900 plus fps. A 240 or greater bullet in a 44 magnum rifle might perform better, get good penetration and hold together due to lower velocities.

These seem to be mid-level kind of loads. I've seen people typically get +200 fps on all three calibers out of similar lever rifles no problem.

Hey bro if you can find some some 180 grain bear load 357 i use these in my 6 inch

Long barrel giddy up! I've seen YT vids with 357 out of long barrel lever guns over 1800 fps. And despite the slower velocity, even that 38 spl is a nasty bullet.

i love how uber violent 44 mag is in lever guns

next do separate for each... I use the 357 Bronze for both my Henry big boy and GP100 6 inch

I wouldn’t like at all to be at the receiving end of that 44. It would destroy my internals quite a bit…

44 didn't go too far but from the looks of that mess it made i doubt if it needs to .

Good lord Tools this was really an interesting test. Sure didn't expect these results. The 38 & 357 did an awesome job. Now the 44 was just moving to fast, but can you imagine the sheer devastating damage that would do with a head shot. Other than that the target better be thin skinned for it to a really good job. It's just not a rifle length round. Thanks again for some really awesome testing Tools. You be the man that's for sure. Be vigilant, becsafe

Finally, thanks for doing this !!

I’ve done quite a bit of testing with that HTP 38 special lswchp from rifles. I have a ballistics test results video using HTP 38 special +p from a Rossi M92 16” on my channel. Nice video sir. I’d love to see some critical defense 38 special +p tests with that Henry!

Tools!!! Super interested in the results you find out of rifles!! Nice looking rifles you got there!! Okay, I got get rid of the keyboard to watch.

Those .38 spl were super consistent velocities.

38 spcl.unreal consistent. but no power.😮😮😮😮

For the shorter distance I encounter in the woods I hunt. The 44 mag from pistol or rifle is a favorite. First ever two-fer was with a Ruger 44 magnum rifle (wasn't intentional).

Love your videos brother ! You're the best !!!!! You speak my language!!!!! Your Kentucky brother !!!!

Can you do more tests with the Henry 44 mag. I watched other tests with that same ammo and had better results.

Loving these rifle videos brother

Kaboom. 💥💥💥💥💥💥

I tested almost all the factory 44 mags in a 22 inch barrel. Hornady 240 grain XTPs were the best. 1888 FPS!

Big chronograph is in cahoots with the ammo cabal to make you use more rounds.

My Rossi 16 inch lever gun model 92, in .357 rem mag is frequently with me . Tiny rifle , big performance .

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Ooo. Need to do some 44 Special defensive loads out of the rifle

Pow! That's all that has to be said about these rounds out of a rifle. 🎩🎱♠️🎯🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🔱🌻💮🌸🌼👊🏴‍☠️🏹🎇

The 357 Mag 158gr JSP seems to be a good Home Defense round or Hawg & deer round with in 100 yds .. The 38spl 158gr LSWCHP isn’t really a weak round.. as you mentioned in the video… a bit of misunderstanding on your part … the 38 alphabet round as it is called in certain circles is quite a performer in a 4 inch revolver .. the projectile does some pretty odd things inside a person when it hits bone .. but as u saw .. even with the lower velocity.. basically performed similar to the 357 mag round .. I keep the 38spl LSWCHP round loaded in my Ruger Security Six As for the 44mag I use nuthin less than a 240gr bullet

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I appreciate your work. Well done 👏

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Hey brother I'm a huge fan of you channel and a huge fan of .41 Magnum revolvers and rifles!!! Can you possibly come up with some videos on these? From your brother in Ga.!!!!! Yes I know the rifles are a bit hard to find but doable, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Taurus make revolvers ( check out Exile Armory in Alabama ) they have a you tube channel, Amber is sooo funny and pleasant to watch, also very good prices and they ship their products too!!! You know I love your channel lots, we have chatted back & forth a bit, if you can remember, I said some of my friends always say I talk funny, Like a hillbilly, but I'm proud of it and they are jealous of how I talk, We can't help it if they can't talk right, Right!!!

.38 Special ammo isn't likely or usually loaded with powders that continue to respond to added barrel length after about 16" inches quite like magnum ammo is. If you were loading your own however, there are powders that would give you a little more velocity potential out of longer barrels. Probably squeak another 50 to 75 FPS out of a +P 158 and still be "normal" for +P pressure. Something a Buffalo Bore or similar would do. Essentially getting low end mag revolver performance by using . 38 Special +P ammo in a carbine.

Have you ever tested any of the Underwood Xtreme Defender or Xtreme Penetrator from a lever action?

They're never exactly the stated grain weight anyway, I'd bet those 357 and 38s didn't lose anything. Great video thanks!

I prefer the 357, I can always shoot 38 that are less expensive. I wonder what a buffalo boar 357 magnum hot load would do out of the 20” barrel. Thanks keep up the good work!

Both the .357 and the .38+P performed excellently. Goes to show that the .357 can be a good short-range hunting round and the .38+P can be a good defense round at shorter ranges. That .44 was just moving too fast for its construction. If the jacket was just a bit thicker, it probably would do a lot better out of a rifle.

I'd love to see a 44 special test out of that Henry if you get bored or run out of things to do

That 44 is definitely not designed for use in a rifle. Certainly not designed for that velocity. The 357 and 38 would probably be good hunting rounds inside of 60 or so yards. Great comparison video.

I hit water bottles and 2 litres with 85 gr. hollow point .32's that load into a .303 or Moison Nagant. Light recoil very fast and vaporize the target. Dont know about accuracy but must be 3000fps and it is a sight to behold when the target basically disappears in a mist. Fun times with cheap bullets.

🇦🇺😎👍Big fella sounds like you have a new personal assistant …The 44 detonator - - - Un- believable! Great results , awesome science🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🤠🇺🇸

I almost mentioned in the last video, that it would be awesome if Henry made an AR-15. Well there are rumors going around that they have a prototype lever action, mag fed AR in developement.... Wouldn't that be cool?

Plz show buffalo brand Ammo in same,,,demo,,,try cast bullets

That seems a pretty insane speed on that .44 mag round, faster than the .357 by a long shot. I definitely like that lead, hollow point semi-wadcutter .38 spcl round, that's the best I think for a .38 load.