NTA, you and your sister should go nc from those family members, not only did they invalidated you. They also broke law by letting the person who is under supervised visit, access the person without supervision from the authorized person
Nope, if the State deems it unsafe for the mother to have contact then it should be enforced. No Excuses or extraneous circumstances can legally happen
NTA. Be careful. They may try to kidnapp her next time and dissappear with your estranged mother. Also, better let CPS know of them putting your little sister in harm's way. Get a lawyer. Do what you must to protect her and yourself.
NTA. Your sister is your responsibility. Legally, you call the shots. Keep your sister safe. Do not back down. Set boundaries, get restraining orders against the aunt and anyone else who is untrustworthy and have the mother's court orders reviewed by reporting this to CPS. Unfortunately, due to the complete lack of respect and sheer disregard towards you, your wishes and even court orders, you need to play hard ball. YOU ARE NOT WRONG! ❤❤❤
Anyone remember the case where the mpther killed the baby and put her in the microwave(I think). Her aunt had custody and the mother was not supposed to have contact but she let her in the house Too often this happens.
NTA your family should be prosecuted under the fact that they went against a CPS and a COURT order it's ridiculous just because the woman gave birth to you and your sister does not make her a mother which is obvious for the fact that you have sole custody of that 7 year old girl you did the right thing and if they try to pull things like this again contact authorities wishing you the best of luck dear
NTA!! You are COMPLETELY in the right! Your "mother" has supervised visitation FOR A REASON! If the rest of your family can't understand this, they are dangerous to your sister.
So the aunt and grandmother don't care about the sister enough to take custody but will undermine you as her caregiver after to turned your life upside down at the young age of 23.
Call cps, file a restraining order against the aunt for violating the court order and I'd also talk to the district attorney for kidnapping. Let the school know that the family cannot pick up your sister, give them a list of their names and pictures of them and tell them if the anyone in the school allows anyone but her to pick up sister You will file a lawsuit against the school! Protecting your sister is number one!
NOPE, Protect her at all costs. I would talk to CPS about the mom violating the order and the courts to get a RO against the auntie and see if I could move away.
NTA! Now, that having been said, it is important to stress to the Family that this is a legal issue and a safety/well being issue for your little sister. It probably isn't going to help to frame this as an issue of your family not understanding your sacrifice. That will just further anger your family. It would be better for you to deal with it as a legal issue. Infact, I 'd be sure CPS knows.
Contact your case worker to let them know so that it’s on the record you had no knowledge of it before hand and are cutting contact with those family members. Also go to her school and remove all family members from the approved pick up list
Plus if their mom is only allowed supervised visits there is a reason for that. Doing his not only is dangerous for the child it also doesn’t help the mom take accountability to move forward.
And also, breaking the law. Sister should contact CPS and a lawyer, to cut out completely the visits from the mother, since she chose to play dirty, and get a restraining order against the rest of them
Nta its a safety thing. Social service only does supervised visits when the parent is a danger to the child. If those family members are giving the non custodian parent access and cps finds out the kinship placement gets terminated because its a part of the agreement to keep said child out of that parents custody. Plus those visits can be very harmful to the child if abuse is the reason they are away from their parents
NTA. If it's bad enough to the point that you have custody of her then your mom shouldn't see her unless you allow it.
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NTA. You need to call CPS and informe then of this, it’s mom violating their orders. Go to school and make it clear no one but you is allowed to pick up your sister.
100% not the AH! We've had grandparents that had visitation rights to their grandchild that had ended up with our family in fostercare and once they had gotten a little bit of freedom during these visits, they would do things like this and have the kids meet their mother of father in secret. Thing is we would always find out, since these parents hadn't lost their kids for no reason. The kids would be so stressed out they'd 10 of 10 times would exhibit behaviors that go with the stress of being abused and having to meet with the abusers. Things like all of a sudden having 'accidents' again like peeing their pants, while they hadn't had such things happen in years. Previously it would also happen as much as a week in advance of having a supervised visit with their abusive parent, so you get to know the signs of distress in these kids. 😢 The goal of fostercare in the Netherlands is to maintain contact with the parents if possible and even working towards getting the kids back with their parents. Unfortunately that type of approach is horrible for these kids, but as long as the case hasnt been fully reviewed and parents actually cut off by a judges orders... visitation rights must be upheld and it really takes quite a lot before a parent is actually completely cut off. And even then, there's caseworkers coming onto these cases and especially the younger ones that feel like they have something to proove and want to "save" these poor parents or whatver they're thinking and they're trying to establish contact with these parents again regardless of the judges ruling that they are familiar with. So any family with visitation rights that would step out of line and have the kid(s) meet up or contact the parents without consent, would instantly lose their rights and be cut off from the child. So OP is completely in the right. She is in a very difficult position too, as a lot of family members can never wrap their head around the fact that their brother/sister/child etc can actually be like that. As long as they haven't seen it or the results with their own eyes, which they usually havent, as it mostly happens behind closed doors, its almost impossible to imagine a loved one being heinous like that. Usually they'll feel sorry for them losing their kids and because they underestimate the whole thing, they go and do stupid things like having them secretly meet their kids. OP will always be right in the middle of that argument and probably her only option is to entirely cut contact.
NTA, but go to CPS and get all visitation rights of all family members revoked as they freaking broke the law and basically abducted the sister in the process.
NTA. These things are in place because the mother is a danger to the kid. OP should report Aunt and Family to the respective authorities and have it in writing that they cannot have access to the kid.
If the state put her with you, there's more problems than they know, and they should be ashamed of themselves for overstepping. You are doing the best you can do. God bless you.❤❤❤❤❤
NTA!!! The bad part is is that you can get in trouble too because she’s not supposed to be around the Mom because CPS says it’s not safe. Hopefully they take it to consideration that you had trusted a family member to do the right thing and they were the ones who decided to do the wrong thing. But now you know, so just keep her safe and away from people who want to cause her harm. I hate that people do that and just do whatever they want even if it’s something that goes against what has been ordered by the court. Do they not realize how bad that is and how much trouble they can get into??? Even Mom can be in trouble because she knows the rules of her visits with the daughter. I’d be bringing this up to CPS and letting them know that this happened and possibly even getting a restraining order against the family members that were responsible for that.
You should have reported this incident and send a copy of your text to the authorities. If you want to keep custody yourself. They need to know this isn't a game.
Nta... You are well within your rights to do what you've done. Protect your little sister and to hell with those who think they know better than you. They did not live your horrible life you did and so did your little sister. They need to mind their own business stay in their own lane. You hold your head high and move forward with your little sister and keep doing what you're doing❤❤❤❤
Hell no you are not wrong at all. This is one of the reason my mother-in-law is not allowed to see my kids anymore. She took them to see a relative who we didn't want the kids seeing anymore because he was making really creepy comments towards our daughter. You do what you have to do to keep your sister safe
Contact police. "I have custody of my sister. Out aunt violated a child protection order by facilitating an unsupervised visit." Also. Concur with other replies. Your aunt and grandmother are conspiring to kidnap the child. Have them added to the CPS order based on this incident.
They also broke the law if cps is supposed to be in the visit. Need to tell cps immediately and that family is now non grata. Also tell schools and drs.
Nope, they come over or have both of you somewhere. My sister did this for me, I was 14 and my sister was only 19. It saved my life and sanity, I was to thank you for doing what you know is right for her!
She should have called their CPS agent and reported the aunt. They WILL try this again, and it may be a full blown kidnapping (although this would be considering a kidnapping, too).
NTA. Go back to court and tell the judge that the visitation agreement was purposely violated and ask for a protective order against those family members that violated the order and the ones harassing you. Now they’ll need supervised visits too.
Yes that's her mother and she does see her when it's permitted by the court as it obviously should be. If she was a mother that deserved to see her child everyday said child would be in mother's custody. NTA. That is your child now so your rules are to be respected. Personally and legally. I hope you and your sister have a beautiful, happy, joyful relationship and life. The commitment and sacrifice you are doing is not for the faint of heart and deserves/demands the up most respect. Siblings shouldn't have to raise siblings. Speaking openly and personally
NTA. Like other commenter said. Prepare for a legal team. Tell cps what happen, and prepare for a lawyers. Hopefully no bad things will happen but op might need a restraining order or two.
Texts are great because it's easy to prove they committed a crime and they even conspired against you if they knew. Admitting to crimes over texts isn't smart but it's super common.
How you feel and how the courts feel. It takes a lot for a biological parent to lose custody and for guardianship to be place with an older sibling. There are huge significant reasons why the biological mother shouldn’t have unsupervised access to that 7 y/o. I would highly suggest going non contact with your maternal family because they are pretty toxic and do not care about the safety or well being of your sister. I would also suggest informing the court and/or caseworker what happened because this will not be last time this happens and you have to protect your sister and yourself. Or else the court could decide that you are preventing your mother from having her supervised visits with your sister and you would get in big trouble with the court.
Nta, there is a reason OP has sole custody and the mother only can do supervised visits with CPS... Which might not happen anytime soon once OP contacts CPS or the court about this
Tell your aunt and the rest of the family if your mother sees your little sister without cps arrangements you could loose custody and she could be put with foster parents not related to them and everyone will not see her without cps arrangements. So you did the right thing
NTA. If a social worker that was aware of her situation saw this she would've been put out of your custody and into foster care immediately. That wasn't safe in the slightest.
Not only did they break your trust they broke the law and court order. There's reasons kids get taken away and why parent has strict restrictive access.
NTA, That's child endangerment. They kidnapped a child for the sake of having a meeting with her mother who is only allowed supervised access. She's on supervised access FOR A REASON. You need to tell the courts, your case worker and social services because that is so wrong on so many levels
NTA If it's advised to have CPS supervise the visit, there's a pretty good reason as to WHY the visit should be supervised. I dont blame the OP for cutting his family off. And the way that the family are backing the mom up feels like that fed into her delusions and enabled that when she was younger... Or they were the ones that made her like that. Even more reason to completely stop them from ever visiting the OP's younger sister.
No the state gave her to you for a reason. I would make sure that every time the family does something you keep records of that your sister is what’s important here. Keep her safe and you stay safe too.
You don't get put on supervised visits without good reason. Should speak to lawyer and tell him what happened. He may be able to have the rest of the family put on a supervised order so they can't see the kid without OP there.
Good for OP there is a reason why the dead heat mother lost custody and has supervised visits to the youngest child... guess the rest of the family is a dumpster fire
As a friend of a family involved with CPS, thw supervised visits are (to my understanding) court ordered. By breaking that order it could mean that the family could be brought up on charges. Good on the person for cutting access to their daughter off from family members who dont care about what is best for the kid. Yes the mother is the mother but Child Protective Services is involved for a reason and if they deem it so, the sister won't be allowed near the family by court order. This is knowledge i know or have somewhat peiced together from being the friend of a family. I am sorry if any information is wrong. Again I am not knowledge in it like others. I do know CPS is no joke. You dont push them.
This is the issue with the aunt hiding something like that: Visits like that are only put in place by order of a judge. Supervised Visitation is not something that just comes up. The mother would have had to be an incredibly abusive or neglectful parental figure for CPS to even file a motion for it, much less have it be considered and then granted. The aunt violated a court order, which is a felony charge. The mother, because she willingly allowed the aunt to do it, also violated the court order and can be charged for Unauthorized Visitation and Defying a Court Order (or whatever charge fits that description). It’s no small thing to see someone get put on “Supervised Visitation.” It’s means the parent cannot be trusted alone with their child.
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NTA if mom lost custody it's probably for good reason. Now if the mom had harmed the kid durring that visit all the family would be able to say is "we're so sorry" 🙄
NTA HELL NO!!! Protect your sister. Call CPS, telling them what happened. Retraining order and make sure that your sister's school that only YOU OR ANOTHER GROWN UP ARE ALLOWED To pick your Sister up.
NTA! tell the court because 1) she essentially kidnapped her, 2) that was against court order, 3) that was putting the child in harm’s way. talk to a lawyer.
It takes a lot for the courts to remove a mother's custody. I have no doubt that the reason the mothers was not allowed to be around the sister unsupervised was for good reason. The problem with a lot of these families were it's a brunch of the older women in charge is they don't hold each other accountable. It becomes a pecking order based on mothers having the final say and no negotiation.
