How a glitch might have inspired some of the greatest villains of the Sonic franchise. --------------------------- Social medias! Twitter: gameapologist Discord: / discord Patreon: patreon.com/gameapologist
I SAID MIGHTY INSTEAD OF HEAVY AGAIN. I will ignore all the comments pointing it out as they will ignore this comment acknowledging my folly. ...but seriously, thank you guys for watching! I was worried it wouldn't be out today, but considering the subject matter, maybe it's for the best that this is a late night video.
I still think it's a stretch those little * things also go by asterisks and some other name but I forgot but I'm holdin out faith that this is the truth of his conception
@@cherricake1796 First few sentences of Wikipedia: "The asterisk /ˈæst(ə)rɪsk/ *, from Late Latin _asteriscus,_ from Ancient Greek ἀστερίσκος, _asteriskos,_ "little star", is a typographical symbol. It is so called because it resembles a conventional image of a star. Computer scientists and mathematicians often vocalize it as star (as, for example, in the A* search algorithm or C*-algebra)".
It’s incredible that somehow unrelated, both the US and UK Sonic comics got an older, white echidna Dr., that betrays Knuckles and becomes a cyborg villain thanks to Robotnik.
I think it's generally speculated that Finetivus (or however it's spelled) was based off of Zachary as a sort of spiritual successor on account of Fleetway being done with and Zachary not being able to come back in his own series
Dr. Starline's name is BRILLIANT. I absolutely adore him! His design, his scientific prowess, his elegant demeanor all just point to a triumph of a character. Him being a baddie is just the icing on the cake. I can even see him surpassing Eggman, if he weren't so cute!
I saw a Transformers cover in there! Just as Sonic came to IDW, it seems they lost Transformers. Do you still work with that franchise? Also ...did Starline go his entire run in the comics without ever once meeting Knuckles or any of the Chaotix? Was that intentional? Nick, any more Comicbunga is good to me! I'd watch more of your videos about the turtles!
It's funny how Knuckles Chaotix for a long time was dismissed as a weird spin off with knux name and Chaotix debut, but when you realize how much of the franchise as a whole pulls from it, like Mania, a lot of comic stuff as shown through your videos etc, really makes you love the game
I don't really understand it, but listening to this guy talk about everything is literally the sole reason I'm still in the sonic Fandom. I can listen to him talk forever.
I can't say I've ever been in the Sonic fandom as my interest extended only to the first two games I played as a kid, yet Nick's (his name is Nick, right?) enthusiasm for Sonic somehow makes all his videos surprisingly watchable.
*aCtUaLlY,* Starline does have venom in his spurs. He uses it to paralyze the prison ward later on in the comic. Also, the platypus and a few subspecies of the echidna are the only living monotremes, but there is at least one more family that is only known from fossils. I guess we’ll be getting that one once Sonic is bought by Disney like everything else.
To make Starline's name even more interesting, the number of * in the character select is the same number of characters in "Dr Starline", 10 (if you exclude the . at the end of Dr.)
@@gooolixx i think it's more to do with the combination between the thumbnail and the title. I mean, the thumbnail looks creepy and glitched, almost like a creepypasta image. Also, no need to mock us being scared. Just because you didn't get scared of something, doesn't mean you can shame others for feeling that way.
@@spikemanfangirl Imagine being scared by creepypasta. Creepypasta has a sort of amplified Sturgeon's Law, which states that 90% of everything is crap. With creepypasta it's more like 99%.
Echidna might be getting mixed up in your head with Enkidu, the beastman companion of Gilgamesh, and enchiladas. Funny how all three of these villains are doctors!
18:50 You think you can just casually call Starline sexy and nobody would notice? _You think I'm just gonna let that slide?_ I mean it's _true,_ but I'm not about to let you just sneak that in right under people's noses.
There is a sonic creepypasta now for him. The character’s name is chaotix, and his story is that he is tails but he isnt complete. When ever he finds someone he thinks has his code, he will go into his 2nd form and take their code. His first form is knuckles with lighter fur and 1 pupil. His 2nd form has the same color palet as wechnia, but with 1 eye and he is taller
another fun thing that ties this all together is if you look at evan stanley's concept designs for starline, the dude really starts to look similar to an echidna when you see the different ways his hair could've been styled. Still really fun that you see how they carried over knuckles' design elements into a platypus character considering theyre both monotremes aside from just the hair but also the bendy tails they got going on.
When it comes to Wechnia, I really like Cylent-Nite's interpretation: he was Pachamac's bastard son that started his own tribe to wage revenge against his dad and the Knuckles Tribe for abandoning him, but didn't succeed and was imprisoned in an unseen, 7th White Chaos Ring, while his son, who was still part of the Knuckles Tribe, was punished for his father's treason by being burdened with the responsability to protect the Master Emerald. 4,000 years later, while Knuckles' Chaotix is happening, Sonic and Tails are going through the same island, looking for the 7th ring, they find it and Wechnia (who is now a ghostly entity) posesses Tails, causing plenty of hijinks and leaving him with phasmophobia.
The creation of Starline is just some galaxy brain thinking. I never thought in my life he would be connected to a random glitch in an obscure game from a failed add-on
This is based on how Mighty was supposed to be Sonic, and how "Sonic Crackers" is the earliest prototype of "Chaotix'; it was a pitch rom with Sonic and Tails in it.
Well if you want more of Dr. Zachary, I suggest you taking a look at Sonic The Comic Online, also known as the "unofficially official" continuation of the comic as many of the creators of the comic contributed to it! And Ooooooh boy, Dr. Zachary plays a huge role in it!
There is a creepypasta but it's more of a fan made backstop. Wechina is a fragmented piece of tails who just wants to be whole again though any means necessary. If Wechina suspects that someone is his missing piece he will track them down and stalk them and eventually kill them. If he kills someone who wasn't a piece of him the Wechina can revive said being into doing Wechina's bidding
haven't even watched the full thing yet, but I'm amazed you managed to find enough to talk about in this glitch character, and I know I'll love every second of it, much like the rest of your videos. Keep it up man.
That Starline thing is just a bit too perfect, wow. It really is amazing that something like a glitch can inspire so much creativity from people, I love it
Yeaaaaaaah someone to finally address Dr. Finitevus. It was always so sad to see him disappear after the reset. His design was cool and he was into so much stuff, one of the best villains in the series.
When the description said characters, plural, for a moment I thought this was about Ian's pet recolour. Fortunately the timeline and comments proved that not to be the case, so... _continue._ As an aside, I find it amusing that we've gotten four and a half characters based on glitches (I say half because Starline is more based on one of the glitch characters than he is on a glitch himself and Zachary is probably a coincidence), and while it's a roughly even split between ones that were good and ones that were... not, all the good ones were based on Wechnia. Finitevus is one of the best things Archie did, the other being Nicole. He's an amazing antagonist, and proof that Ian can do damn good villains when he's not just giving Eggman and Scourge free wins. His aura being black is lowkey one of the standouts, it really stands out compared to the normal green, or the red and blue brought in by Shadow's game and the gold of Super forms. Starline, meanwhile, got something right that the Sonic comics have been struggling with ever since they started trying to put Eggman at the top of the villain pantheon. That is to say "Why the fuck does anyone work for this man?" The comics lean hard into the "Insane manbaby" side of Eggman, and whereas that would normally raise too many questions, Starline finally manages to strike the balance. He respects and admires Eggman's creations, but is disillusioned by his attitude and wants to force him to become better.
19:16 You're actually correct about there only being two types of monotremes. The "5" you thought was a mistake, is actually just the platypus, and four species of echidna. So, yeah, there are 5 species of monotreme, but there are only 2 mammals that are monotreme.
Mephistopheles is actually a major demon in Germanic folklore, specifically in the legends of Faust. So you knew the name from _good_ sources rather than the Butthole Cut of Cats
I absolutely love doctor Starline and what I learned tonight after watching this video makes me a door the villain even further. The only thing I think that would make him even better, would be if there is a scene where doctor Starline is launched into the air and when he's descending we see him in an awkward sitting like possession and he is flapping his arms and legs about. And then another scene, when Eggman and other villains are posing making some sort of antagonist monologue simply see Star Line in the background walking in place with his expression and eyes completely fixated on anything except what's going on in the moment.
@Game Apologist I recall from the fan letters page that a fan asked if Dr. Finitevus and Scourge's green coloring and black crown was based on the glitches Wechina and Ashura, which got a yes. (Scourge's connection to Ashura would be repeated also in Sonic Super Special Magazine Issue 1) Furthermore Ian also said on the Bumblecast that Thrash's design comes a single frame of Sonic & Knuckles' title screen where you switch between Sonic and Knuckles there is a purple hedgehog/echidna mix of the two characters.
18:05 Yo...Ian has written comics on MLP, Rivals of Aether AND Indivisible?! I'm sold now! I gotta read his stuff! (Like I have vivid memories of reading the first MLP volume and found it surprisingly good and not as cringy as the show is sometimes, idk if Ian wrote that one but I'd be curious to see what he could bring to a universe like that...as for Indivisible I'm actually exited to check that out! I followed that game back when it was kickstarted and the concept for it was SO COOL but then the game came out and left a lot to be desired, worst part being that the writing was really REALLY sloppy at times...so this seems like an opprotunity to see how he can salvage that missed potential!) Nice video too be the way! Toot toot indeed! ;)
Quick notes:fun fact, the white corrupted Knuckles is actually a remnant of tails from the used-to-be game but replace with Knuckles chaotix Sonic crackers where it would be Sonic and tails and the game would play out just like today with knuckles chaotix but this time with different zones
The whole line of stars thing coming full circle made the video even better. I learned some new stuff from this video like how Charmy came from the Sonic Manga, how Fleetway's Sonic the Comic had it's own white echidna, and how the glitch echidna from Knuckles Chaotix is represented by a line of stars. I fell like a obsessed Star Gate fan taking a quiz qbout the show and missing a few questions, best thing is that I'm learning a lot from this. Also I have branched out and watched the rest of your videos, I think I only haven't seen two of them and most of the Sonic Speed Reading videos except for the start of the IDW one since I had to catch up to avoid spoilers, it was definitely worth it. Gonna watch the Zombot Arc videos now.
At first I wasn't too interested in this video with a glitch I had never heard of for a character who doesn't really exist, but you really tied everything together and I'm glad I watched the whole thing. Tremendous job and extra kudos with your research.
I saw this video in my feed and I was like there's no way hes about to do what I think he is. After viewing I'm very glad you did. Doctor Finitevus is one of my all time favorite Sonic villains. I just wish he was allowed to be used in the games.
Great video! Who knew such an obscure glitch could leave such a lasting impact Man I really, REALLY need to start reading the IDW comics because I'm missing out on so much great characters
I thought Starlines Warp Topez gimmick was familiar, and thought about how it couldn't have been coincidence with Finitevus's thing, but thought nothing after that about it. Now it all lines up! Would love to see them make new characters that reference the archie ones more.
That was such a good video, real proud of your growth as a content creator and now community manager with discord and comment section. Are you still working a second job, I know you bounced between leaving and having to go back. If you are still having a second job, I salute you dude, your insane with your output. Also, I have dyslexia and I pronounced everything you mention the exact same way, besides the chicken, but everything else yes.
Dr. Zachary (Sonic the Comic) and Dr. Finitevus (Archie SatAM) are the same being; once all the dimension fragments (of the original whole story) merged together, and for the most part, every character who exists in multiple dimensions become a perfect amalgum, so did these two when the came close enough to each other. Hence, HIS name is Dr. Zachary Finitevus... Zachary was simply the manifestation of Finitevus' final destiny; only the Regenesis event (that completely restores the planet and finishes the dimensional reforging *properly*) ALSO now starts a healing on him. A different Dr. Zachary soon comes into existance, who is really the virtuous, pure being Finitevus once was...
You know what the wechida reminds me of? Rankles, a british april fools contest to find a spikey ankled green "otter" who was essentially Knuckles' Tails. Of course the art was just a green knuckles with weird ball feet but someone found a glitched pallet of knuckles that matched said fake character and sent it in, of course he didn't win cause again it was a joke
You know, this actually kind of reminds me of Missingno.. Both glitches were just a silly programming quirk.... But, both endured, and continue to stir the imaginations of players all over the place.... It's amazing when you think about it. Something devs won't ever acknowledge became characters in their own right.
Knuckles always seemed to have the coolest bad guys in the archie comics I always enjoyed the decorations of most of the characters that were the same species as Knucks especially the ones that were different colors from the standard reddish orange that echidnas from Sega are known for
There are actually three characters based on glitches in the comics- those being Surge the Tenrec, Kitsunami the Fennec, and of course, Starline the Platypus. The trio are based on the Sonic Team Trio, Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles respectively, but with their glitch counterparts as the base- Surge is based on the "Ashura" glitch from Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Kit being based on the "Blue Knuckles" glitch from Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles (Presumably the tails equivalent to complete the trio as well as the game calling it Tails even though it's Knuckles with Sonic's colors and abilities,) and Starline being based on, well, **********/"Wechnia" from Knuckles' Chaotix.
