0 degree Waveland on the B0XX 

Did literally everyone just become Ganon

I do this with Falco with sh fast fall but I never get 0 degree lol

I want to come back to this vid because I just hit something super nutty, it's possible to edge cancel into frame perfect 0 degree waveland on platforms apparently. You should try to lab this and see if it's consistently do-able!

boys the meta.... its changing before our eyes monkaS

that moonwalk, holy shit

This is actually sick

I knew falco's backflip let you do 0 degrees, but holy shit seeing fox do it for everything and seeing actual applications for it is crazy

been doing this since like 2014 but glad to see more ppl noticing it the technique has been named "perfect waveland" for years tho

oh yeh. i do this all the time with Mario. Thanks for putting a name to it.

I do this by accident sometimes, great to understand it better. Thanks!

For anyone asking, it does work with Falcon without back flipping and backflipping, just tested it on uncle punch.

Thanks for publishing because some people don't seem to know this. I started as Ganon back in 2013, so I've always known about this lol

Falco looking like luigi .. what has science wrought

i feel like mangos been doing this since foreever. i seen the dude waveland a whole platform with fox on dreamland, muy cochino

I keep finding more cases of characters and situations that I can do this with. Just found out that it's even easier to do with Mario!

I found this out naturally, but it’s nice to see if explained logically. Btw I been playing melee since like 5 years old on and off, so I got a good natural grasp on the mechanics.

If you can get this consistently on like Falco, instead of getting to the peak of his walk for a moonwalk back air you can just do this. Neat, always feels good to see that Melee still has it’s secrets

Oh dang so this is how this works. One time I did this with falco 0 degrees across a battlefield plat and I went across the whole thing. I wasn't able to recreate it but now I know!

Thank god for Ganon mains and RIP Donkey Kong for his unchanging ECB

Here is all of the information on this technique that I've gathered and documented: Characters capable of utilizing ZeroDegreeWavelanding: -Fox -Falco -Captain Falcon -Ganondorf -Mario -Doctor Mario -Luigi -Samus -Peach -Mewtwo -Pikachu -Link -Young Link -Bowser -Zelda -Ice Climbers Character specific limitations: B = Must perform a backwards jump (backflip) S = Short waveland X = Likely not as useful because the benefits do not make up for difficulty of execution and/or the character has better options that already exist. -Falco: B -Captain Falcon: X -Mario: B -Doctor Mario: B -Luigi: X -Samus: X -Peach: B S X -Mewtwo: B -Pikachu: S -Bowser: B -Zelda: S X

1:31 - I don't know why, but I really like seeing NILs.

Can you give us the full list of characters that can do this? i wanna see if my gimmicky lowtier can do this

0 degree Wavelands for ledge dashing is very good holy.

Melee is sick

I also know this is a thing with Falcon's backjump because he flips. When his butt is pointing down and basically touching the ground is when you should input it. Also easy to do when he curls up in his double jump, just like the case with Fox

I totally played this guy on slippi yesterday. Got wrecked pretty good.

I'm week 1 on the frame 1 main sheik and i've been hittin these all the time. Not sure how but this video cleared a lot up on how to do it

Very essential tech, not sure why it isn't more well known lol. My friend called it a -Perfect Waveland-, and I think that colloquialism might be known by many others as well, but 0 Degree Waveland is a more direct term, so I'll use both in my dictionary of smash tech whether I publish it or not. And yes, I'm trying to document every last tech in this game, and I think it would include literally everything you could possibly think of, but I'm not sure where to publish it 🤔. Maybe a Melee wiki idk. Btw, you absolutely have to try it with Mewtwo, his goes half the stage ;). I got a clip doing that into grab, it's absolutely bonkers >>>>

u had me sweating for a bit i was worried that fox wasn't going to be able to do it.

this works amazingly as doc when shield dropping

*fox laughs in top tier*

Man, Mewtwo reaches crazy distance with this, good job with discovering that !

You know you can do this without any direction.

0:40 is fire

Yo do you happen to remember where you got this Battlefield skin? I one that's inspired by Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon that's pretty sick but this one looks pretty nice

You should have never let the melee community see this haha. TASers are gonna go crazy with this one.

ive been doing this with falco, i never realised it had something to do with any properties loool

Of course fox can make use of this tech easier and more effectively than most other characters, why would I expect anything else?

Imagine luigi with this

Ooooo I’ve done this on platforms before, but I never thought it was possible on the ground Kickass, great video 👌

Ganon players have been doing this for 15 years

I do this all the time practicing wavelands sick

Goddamnit melee is so fucking cool

that's so fucking dope what

thats so cool. i really want to try melee someday

Damn i just tested it with ganon and a few other characters with gc controller and it seems to be not that hard. Do the Pro players already know of this? if not i kind want to tweet this at n0ne

this is just a perfect waveland, no need to re-name

the RoA player in me likes this

I personally need to know if Yoshi can do it, oh god let it be so

Please more tutorials!

New tech!!!

bruh fox got drip

H9ly shit he go NYOOOM

Was going to comment that this is just a perfect waveland, but checked the comments and see you acknowledged that already. My other thoughts though... I like 0 degree waveland over perfect waveland tbh, the term is less ambiguous, though I think it still needs some refining to be more intuitive. Was neat seeing Fox and Falco preserve the momentum into bairs, I didn't realize that could be done. Not sure what application there is outside of styling and tricking people, it seems to be highly telegraphed from the setup. I suppose it has to be an edgeguard if anything. As someone who mained ganon for a very long time, 0 degree wavelands into jabs/grabs/ftilts worked more often when doing it from the ledge than from a shorthop on stage because the ledge dash happens much faster. I have, more by intuition than intention, many times over the years done a 0 degree waveland while retreating with Marth if I get hit at low percents and popped up a little bit. It's not exactly something I plan for, and usually I keep getting hit instead of seeing this window, but it's a swift retreat that covers a little more distance than a battlefield platform in less a second and it's something I just do when I see it presenting itself. It seems to be more prevalent in the floaty matchups for him. I don't think this example would really be a thing at top level play because usually when they hit each other they keep hitting each other.

Just as sakurai intended

Just figured this out 🤷🏽‍♂️

Hasn't this tech been around for a while? I know I've used this occasionally myself, not sure if the angle is 0° cause I'm playing Vanilla on a GC. The "backflip" into a waveland is particularly useful with Falcon.

Oh well fox is op again

DAYUM.

this is sick ty

That's pretty nifty for telling someone that ur better than them at melee lmao

I was subscriber 200! Nice video!

Sick.

The 0-degree waveland is not a tech the Jedi would tell you..

Environmental collision b0xx* (b0xx controller specific vernacular)

good job dawg.

dope

pog

is this not the koopa back dash thingy?

damn i been doin this didnt know the technicalities behind it tho interesting

Would doing this on a platform be similar in theory to a platform cancel?

so is this just a better waveland or what

No way. Your name is Galen too??

backflip swag lool

Why did you make a new name for existing tech? This is perfect waveland.

Whats that training mod you’re playing on?

westballz does this right?

What if u can do this in ultimate???