017 - Desert Storm MiG Kill 

I just don't understand how this podcast doesn't have more exposure.... i just found out about it yesterday. I've listened to 6-7hrs of content already. Love the Podcast, you need more exposure this is excellent.

What a LEGEND of a man! “I am proud of my service, but I don’t like war.” “I hope he survived”. Honesty and integrity are rare commodities...

I was aboard the Saratoga as part of airwing 17. I worked on the 84 and 118 TACAN and also RADALT. I remember how happy we were to find out that VFA-81 got 2 Migs right after they lost Lcdr.Scott Speicher. Glad to hear that Mongo is still alive and kicking!

27:30 Very true words. One the best episodes on this podcast.

Dang. I’m listening to the whole channel, in order…this one is more amazing than the (also amazing) previous!

These are great. I love listening to these while I do chores. I sometimes look forward to some chores, getting some brownie points with the wife by getting those chores done. I have been listening to the more recent ones but going back a few years makes me see how much I have missed. Thanks for sharing keep it up.

Absolutely fantastic video. Congrats to both of you from this retired submariner.

Really enjoyed this podcast, and glad that Mongo made it home...FLY NAVY!

Absolutely love your podcast and this episode is another classic. The play by play on this one is tremendous 🇺🇸

Great talk, the combat audio clip makes it very evident how far air-to-air employment has evolved since the 1991 GW. Mongo's assessment at 1:13:25 that it "takes war, death and combat to move the needle" still so true.

So awesome to hear from a CT native! Thank you for your service! Mongo sounds like an awesome dude! Jell-O - great and important podcast! People need to be I Informed about their military and more importantly the heroes who defend us and make use of the amazing equipment we have!!!

Fantastic! thanks for this one. I truly appreciate being educated on this history. I forgot that our warplanes fought other planes over Iraq in the 1st war. So much attention is given to '03 and the ensuing campaigns, rightly so but I'm really happy I listened to this. Thanks.

Wow I been following this podcast for a lil bit, so glad I found this. Really really good podcast

What an awesome story. Humility along with a Silver Star. My Uncle Pete earned a Silver Star during Operation Torch under General Patton as a Tank Commander in No. Africa while his brother was a nose gunner on a B24 I never knew that my Uncle Pete earned a Silver Star until after his death from old age when my cousin showed it to me. That's the kind of heroes we had saving us and our country in past wars. Whenever I spoke with my uncles, they never discussed WWII with me. I once spoke to my uncle Sal, also a Tanker, and asked: "Uncle Sal, why didn't you guys ever talk about the war?" His answer was "why would we?" War was hell and the Greatest Generation never wanted to discuss it with their kids. This was a great story. It seems war heroes live on from generation to generation because they love their country. Thank God for our heroes.

Was surprised to find the HUD footage of this on RU-vid.

G'Day Mate, What a great podcast Thank's for up loading. Just asking but do you have the other pilots that Mongo is talking about well podcasts about their time flying. All The Best from Australia. "Australia & America side by side in Peace and War"

WAITING on Ward's podcast to start at 1 pm to talk about him. I have family in Intel and followed his shootdown since I was a kid.

That was a great podcast really gave us a feel of what it was like to be on a actual combat mission . Keep up the good work.

Although war sometimes is necessary, its not easy taking lives. Our freedoms come with a cost. I remember what Randy Cunningham said. Paraphrasing, he said We're not fighting the machine. We're fighting the man inside the machine. We're fighting his ideologies, thoughts, and beliefs. I'd love to hear him on the podcast one day

Thank you sir for your service .

Yes....please get Devon Jones on your show. I would love to hear his, and "Rat"s story. Thanks Jell-o!

Outstanding episode! Riveting stuff . Thank you Mongo for your service and thank you Jello for facilitating the socialization of this piece of history.

Mig- killer LCDR Mark "MRT" Fox was a school classmate of mine in Texas. Had the privilege of attending his retirement (as VADM, Deputy CENTCOM) from the Navy at Annapolis a few years ago. The print shown as the cover for this RU-vid is a Mark Styling painting. Mark Fox and Mark Styling signed my copy. One of my most treasured possessions.

Words of a hero “ this is it, I may die, but it’s what I signed up for “ That’s courage and heroism.

Amazing listen, much like you were talking about being on the edge of your seat listening to aviation stories in training, that was me listening to this podcast. Now that us civvies have access to a FA-18/C simulator in DCS (check it out if you're unaware) this information is so amazing to me.

Where have I been? Absolutely riveting. Thank the both of you so much. I was retired by then, watching CNN and lamenting being late for Viet Nam and now missing this.

27:30 who's here in 2020?

I would have loved to hear about Mongo having been part of Robert Gandt's book, Bogeys and Bandits.

Amazing. I have a 1:72 diecast of this jet sitting on my desk.

One of the best episodes. What a story!

How does this only have 593 views?!? This is amazing!!!

Never heard of a mig-25 shooting down an f/a-18 in GW1. Intradasting.

27:30 Those words! I'd love if I could subtitle this interview in Portuguese and share it friends here, a lot of people should hear this!

Love the 1st person accounts, nothing like hearing from the person who was there. Please add map info, large and small scale,along with the naritive, to help geographicly locate the story.

It was fucked that Spike got shot down but at least his buddies got to send him some company. That being said, it didn't change the fact that he was gone

I just found this channel a month ago. That’s Oct 2021.

Regarding the Brit Tanker discussion at the start (Nimrod/Tristar); I'd guess it might have been a Victor tanker (one of the UK V Bomber series) they were used as tankers and were used in the 91 Gulf War and were retired around 93

Mongo sure sounds like Saul Goodman! Hope he's not managing a Cinnabon in Omaha these days.

Nice artwork by Mark Styling too!

Interestingly, the Nimrod was based on the De Havilland Comet airframe

i just stumbled on your channel, awesome stuff!

Best I could do to adapt the cockpit audio to the footage available online. Also included video from Mongo’s wingman who had a kill that day: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cKQ-ztykaQY.html

Loving the intro! and content!

Another thing I find interesting is the humanity expressed regarding respect for life from pilots who have distance and mechanized separation between them and their uniformed opponents. When I hear Mongo express his compassion and sanctity of human life, I'm convinced that it is genuine. From the Land Forces Component elements who actively look for opportunities to engage the enemy during GWOT, there's a different perspective on the enemy over the past 20 years. When you see the depraved savagery of most of the people we've been fighting, or even some of the Fedayeen Saddam loyalists in OIF 1, everyone I know personally who stacked their corpses like cordwood sleeps peacefully at night with that knowledge, disturbances only coming from losing guys on our end. A big factor in that is the collective psychology of our civilians being attacked, as well as the utter casual contempt for human life these diseased animals show to their own kind. The dichotomy of a pilot respecting the life of another pilot vs a dismounted combat arms soldier placing his reticle on the head or chest of one of these wretched organisms couldn't be more stark, and is opposite of what logic would suggest in the intimacy of brutal, face-to-face aggression. It's the exact opposite of what I read in "On Killing".

He put how he feels about taking a life very well

Fantastic! podcast ... Another hour or two with him woulda been fine ...& as good as this was? The USAF DARPA Program manager, Colonel D. "Animal" Javorsek truly is just an UBER GENIUS. (I knew it was going to be a Blazing Saddles thing ... and bet he was GASSY! lol) Re: Darpa Col., GET THAT GUY BACK ON. BOTH OF these guys, They're just OUTSTANDING!!

As someone in the growler community I’m cracking up about the transition o5 that has no idea wtf is going on, thinks he does and runs around yelling at everyone. Tale as old as time 😂

This is good stuff. Thank You gentleman. . . and by the way (as a Chaplin), God did not say thou shall not kill, He said, thou shall not murder. There is a difference morally. Try reading the narrative of Jehu in the Old Testament where God called a warrior (Jehu) to clean up the evil mess of Ahab`s house. See 2 Kings Chapter 9 and 10. Cheers.

In this episode "Mongo" describes splashing a Iraqi MiG-21. FYI, here's a MiG-21 doing aerobatics stateside: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FTMfLatsQTo.html Great work sir and great presentation gentlemen!

Did Mcgee go on to skipper the Kitty Hawk

You need to get john nichols and john Peters on, RAF tornado GR1 crew shot down in GW1

The story of the A6 going low is the same of the European Tornado

I have recently discovered your channel and whenever I get the time to fully concentrate and listen to your podcasts I do. I have also been very positively surprised of your communication with us viewers and the whole channel is perfect for me. Though, I do have to address Mongo's comment at 27:00 where he says ''peaceful military nations like us''... Sorry to bring this to the comments, but you guys talk a lot about it in the video and I just need to point out to you that this is like a finger to the eye for all of us who have had the chance to experience that ''peace''. Also probably to a lot of other nations that got to watch it. Personally I agree with almost everything Mongo and you say about war and I realize that you are Americans, but nothing about those kind of international interventions is peaceful and can be a real triggering for some of us when we hear something like that. All that aside I love your channel, as a guy who decided not to go ahead and try to be a fighter pilot (all the indicators back then were that the Serbian air force was going to die out) I get to live it out through your stories and stories of your guests. Especially love all the international guests as we get to listen about non-US fighter planes too and get to see how other smaller air forces manage. Would be great if in the future we got some Japanese, Korean, Israeli, Chinese and especially Serbian pilots (maybe even some brave guys who flew in '99, I believe it would be interesting for the viewers to hear what they have to say, also some US pilots that flew in '99). Sorry for the long post, and the small rant, love your channel and keep it up!

This episode never gets old. So many lessons learned... Hey Jello. I was reading the account of a USAF AWACS crew member recently of those events. He said he was watching as some Tomcats flying CAP working with E-2s had some delays in comms/PID from the E-2, and one of the Cats was locked up on some A-6Es before the E-2 could deconflict. The E-3A Sentry crew said he cut in to tell him that was an A-6, right as the Tomcat called Fox 1 IIRC. Have you heard about this and was that a factor in putting the Cats on a tight leash throughout the rest of the War?

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Well back then the Navy still had a proper air superiority fighter they have 14 they don't have that now the Navy don't have that 15 equals or f 22 raptors those are the only air-to-air fighters United States has left they're just there to air that's it now you got the strike eagle and the F-16 has a air superiority variant

GREAT !!!!!

They talking about phone call issues!ps

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Mongo: If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad!

Is this the guy that was Scott spicer's wing man?

Amen to the comment at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VYCl0AgM3XM.html 1:07:30 . I have deployed 7 times and 5 of them were combat deployments. God Bless. I have been blessed to not have to take a life. I am a firm believer in trying to help anyone regardless of race, religion, or cultural beliefs because of my deployments. Thanks for your service and sacrifice made for the U.S.A.

You should make a minds.com account if you have not already.

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How could such a bitchen story only have 180 likes at this point??? God bless all those who have to put themselves in harms way for our nation.

Of the absolute MINORITY of servicemen who have a _blood-lust_ ... pilots are THE LEAST subject to that emotion. THESE PEOPLE LOVE FLYING, yes they're competitive ... but: The idea of those people who think pilots are indifferent about life are idiots. It's about the combination of DUTY and SERVICE ... and a love of flying.

Well they got rid of the f-14 too and the Navy steal this day has no air superiority fighters I'm sorry the f-18 is not in their superiority fighter it's multi-role and it wouldn't do very good against the su-27 with an experienced pilot

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Why didn't the United States by mig 29s and su-27s off the Warsaw pact countries after the fall of Soviets to use for training purposes no aggressor squadrons instead of using you know old US aircraft it's just ridiculous

Great episode, though at some point it became very political where it came to be 'We have to be the world police' and some more political topics i would fight, but i leave it, in the end its about military aviation but i prefer it being less political.

What time stamp does the action start.....sick of 20 to 30min ramblings ,merch selling etc

Yeah the world was better when the Soviet Union was still around because China would never rise above the third place you know you had America number one Soviet second place and China was third and so you had the European hegemony rule in the world Europeans and that's always better for the world because us Europeans were made for ruling with the greatest at war

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