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1 TIP ON BACH'S PRELUDE IN C MINOR BWV 847 (WTC 1) 

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One short performance tip, idea, suggestion on J.S.Bach's Prelude in C Minor, BWV 847 Well-Tempered clavier, book 1.
Hope this inspires you !
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Комментарии : 66   
@javierdiazsantana
@javierdiazsantana 3 года назад
The harmony in this prelude is amazing
@michaeldiakakis4581
@michaeldiakakis4581 3 года назад
I used to attend the examination sessions at my son's music school and every summer there would be some child, usually a young teenage girl that would break my heart with this piece. There is so much anticipation and awe to it. I tried some dozen interpretations, and they were all missing the point of the music as I understand it *(Julian Perkins does an excellent job of it). My own Gilbert & Leonhard (though in general very good to outstanding) did not come close. Mr Hantai plays very fast, too. Is there a tempo marking on the score? Did indeed JSB intend this piece to be lightning fast? Even if I am wrong, surely JSB did not intend the piece to be solely an exhibition of virtuosity, a virtuosity I do not find pleasant in this piece, by the way. Thanks for your comments, hopefully they will make people think.
@rogernewton7831
@rogernewton7831 2 года назад
It's a great and sometimes difficult piece to play. The 'presto' section takes some practice. The whole thing is hypnotic when you're playing at whatever speed you choose. Excellent video Wim. enjoyed. Like being back in music college. :)
@trentclarkleipert3614
@trentclarkleipert3614 3 года назад
I agree, this piece has so many possible interpretations. I've enjoyed learning and playing it during lockdown.
@josephososkie3029
@josephososkie3029 3 года назад
“Finding new layers of emotion”. 4:00. Great way to phrase it
@aSymetriqueNess
@aSymetriqueNess 2 года назад
I just absolutely love this piece, the music sounds amazing on the harpsichord! The reverb is absolutely enchanting.
@here5574
@here5574 6 лет назад
Love your approach, what you have to say, and feeling your passion (yes even through the screen online!). x
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 лет назад
Thanks Han, really glad to read this!
@Stigggs
@Stigggs Год назад
Thank you. Very enlightening.
@stelun56
@stelun56 3 года назад
So informative, interesting, and enlightening.
@user-jb9ue8ku7f
@user-jb9ue8ku7f 3 года назад
Great tips , thanks Wim
@samibenorman9154
@samibenorman9154 3 года назад
Thanks a lot, it was very helpful for me. Very nice approach and analysis of this wonderful piece.
@dennisjardine4089
@dennisjardine4089 4 года назад
love this idea
@gerrylopezmusic
@gerrylopezmusic 2 года назад
Learning this piece and then the fugue after...I love the idea and suggestion! thank you!
@rafeverao4105
@rafeverao4105 5 лет назад
_While I do enjoy the mechanical sound of every note being played equally,_ I do very much like the sound of your styles and ideas, and they really bring out the emotional possibilities with this piece. Thank you for the tip!
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад
Great this was helpful, Jack, thanks for letting me know
@momoalnajjar
@momoalnajjar 7 лет назад
Great advice on this prelude. In a month I will start learning WTC book 1 and your tips and masterclasses will definitely help me! :-)
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 7 лет назад
Great that I could help you ! Go #discover beauty in Bach :-)
@kuzey2791
@kuzey2791 4 года назад
You take this too serious omg you are my idol
@vincentbernhardt
@vincentbernhardt 3 года назад
Wim Winters : as usual, 1) inspiring interpretation, well played and expressive ; 2) exactly the opposite result to my own research (and to some authoritative expert's research). That's fascinating in music and especially with Bach. Thank you anyway for this interesting video. Unfortunately, I don't have personally the pleasure to agree often to you, but I am indeed always very pleased to discover your argumented views. Thanks for the huge work you're doing ; I'm looking forward to the next videos.
@hanseureka
@hanseureka 6 лет назад
Well i think that's is a very expressive and interesting piece for Bach because the form of prelude change the kind of interpretation :)
@holponui
@holponui 3 года назад
In this one I really agree with you.
@TheClassicalNetwork
@TheClassicalNetwork 4 года назад
I made an in-depth analysis of the fugue of this prelude on my channel. It's really amazing to see how Bach uses themes from the opening bars and make something sublime out of it.
@chrrev1
@chrrev1 4 года назад
Yeah I like these experiments. Personally I like to emphasize a little the first 3 beats in each bar, it seems to me it brings more interest in the piece rather than just mechanical 1234...
@GregorPQ
@GregorPQ 2 года назад
Finally someone who isn't a robot.
@nikolaacimovic8854
@nikolaacimovic8854 4 года назад
This is one of the difficultest peace of Bach music...it is I must say in german ungehalten...unstopable from begining to the end...Like natural catastrophal event...To the point of no resistence any more...There is nothing to stop of what is going to happen...
@mitechko
@mitechko 3 года назад
"This is one of the difficultest peace of Bach music" Trust me, it is not. I am working through this piece, I am a rather beginner pianist and it is hard, I have spent some six months and I am almost one page down out of two. That said, every single fugue in WTC is harder than this. Because fugues are hard and Bach's fugues are doubly so.
@RustuPai
@RustuPai 3 года назад
@@mitechko when we are beginners (as I am, on the piano) we think that knowing all the notes on the right tempo is enough to play the song correctly. But after a while we notice that, although indispensable, it's far from enough to play a piece in a good way. Articulation, dynamics, consistency, tone, etc play a big part on the quality. So when people say that's the hardest Bach piece, they are talking about these subtleties. Nonetheless, I kind of agree with you. I am also playing piano for less than a year. 3 months, when you wrote this comment, i was also playing this piece for 6 months. I already knew all the notes by heart, but I played it miserably with MANY mistakes. Today, I play it a little better, but still far from acceptable. The easy part of this song is that there's no polyrhythm. Both hands are doing the same thing almost all the time. I tried the first fugue and it was really hard, so i kind of saved it for later.
@jovanapejakov2000
@jovanapejakov2000 3 года назад
@@mitechko I always say there are two kinds of difficult: there is difficult for fingers and difficult for brain. This prelude is difficult for fingers but any fugue is more difficult for brain. As an adult piano beginner who has 13 years in musical training but only 4 playing piano, fugues are easier for me than this prelude and some etudes. Because I can deconstruct a fugue and analyze it, I have written few and all there is left is to play it. But I really struggle with technically difficult pieces.
@ShirleyKirsten
@ShirleyKirsten 7 лет назад
I agree completely with your ideas on this.. Unfortunately, I have heard too many ultra-mechanical, DETACHED approaches..that I would quickly eschew...
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 7 лет назад
Thanks Shirley !
@surgeeo1406
@surgeeo1406 6 лет назад
Hmm... I do have a taste for the mechanical, and I disaprove the notion that a stiff, clockwork performance is inherently worse. If the player is artful enough, that stiffness may portray entrapment, rigidity, etc, which are all valid things to portray. What I do criticise is an absent-minded performance, an absence of presence, and on the rush to go fast many players fall for that.
@RechtsstaatBRD
@RechtsstaatBRD 3 года назад
very good. i think most play this mysthic piece to fast! like widors famos toccata. widor dreaded the thought that had come true that his piece would only be misused as a speed competition. and eider at bwv 847 is also in the foreground of many in the speed competition. similar to the trills in the 1st organ concert. it's good to see a master here on youtube who doesn't judge my perception but encourages them. here as there the speed competition destroys the mystic of the pieces.
@RechtsstaatBRD
@RechtsstaatBRD 3 года назад
ou i lost the heart only why i change one word in my text? strange youtube....
@turgutunal3663
@turgutunal3663 2 года назад
Your analys is Soooooooo goood. Thx. :) I always feel 2 thing when bach is well performed: first Is God hiding in music somewhere? and second Is "Corea's my spanish heart" written by Bach? :)
@Ellatigojusticiero
@Ellatigojusticiero 4 года назад
Bravo Mtro for years i have tried to explain this to the starting pianist and I am sick of listening playing Bach as a machine....thanks.
@johndoe-ep7qk
@johndoe-ep7qk 4 года назад
Very nice analysis, but it seems that since it's already a "dark" piece, to my ear, and quite dramatic, pulling the listener forward somehow, toward something, that to add an "additional" accent (dotted sixteenth) on the first and third notes of each measure, making it almost a waltz time, seems to add too much drama to the piece, in my opinion, and detracts from the forward, anticipatory and suspenseful movement of the music. I do love your insight into other "hidden melodies" within the piece, as well. Thank you!
@stelun56
@stelun56 3 года назад
Some of Hanon's exercises look, albeit in a superficial manner, similar to this prelude. Would it be a step in the right direction to use these exercises to improve one's technique to play this prelude musically?
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 3 года назад
Hanon is not bad...! I would say for excercices, Czerny's opus 337 might be more enjoyable
@stelun56
@stelun56 3 года назад
@@AuthenticSound Thank you
@Batsinthebelltower
@Batsinthebelltower 6 лет назад
That harpsichord has a VERY plucked guitarish sound , it sounds different to any ive heard before , howcome ?
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 лет назад
It's a clavichord!
@Batsinthebelltower
@Batsinthebelltower 6 лет назад
Well that explains it !!
@ludwigvanbeathoven
@ludwigvanbeathoven 4 года назад
thanks both of you. thta made my day haha
@Kaipelana
@Kaipelana 6 лет назад
I have only just found your wonderful site and look forward to listening to all the fascinating videos. My son and I watched this video and loved it. I hope you'll forgive me for asking this, but when he listened to it, my son said it sounded like it was in B minor, not C minor. Maybe it's not coming out of youtube at the right pitch? Is there a difference in the way the clavier is tuned? Maybe you explained this is another video.
@Kaipelana
@Kaipelana 6 лет назад
Okay I think I can answer my own question. The A on the clavircord must not be 440hz, but something else?
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 лет назад
Your son has a good ear! Yes, the clav is tuned at A 408, I have made a series of vids on tuning: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vz75ZErVNGM.html
@Kaipelana
@Kaipelana 6 лет назад
Thank you I really appreciate your getting back to us. Mystery solved! My son will be very excited that you answered. We will watch these videos you have linked for sure. Yes he has a good ear. Now that he knows about different tuning, I suspect he'll be able to tell how an instrument is tuned pretty easily if he can see and hear a note played.
@vassilopoula
@vassilopoula 6 лет назад
Yes, I like your approach. Thank you for sharing your ideas here
@evanlohning
@evanlohning 6 лет назад
thank you very much. I've just discovered your channel. I'm a jazz player but love classical and Bach in particular. To me, Bach and Charlie Parker spoke the same language. Anyway, I wanted to ask you something about this prelude (please excuse my ignorance): I have never liked the way most pianists play this, like it's a race. To me it kills the emotion. Especially the 'presto' at bar 28 that's in the engraved music - are we sure Bach meant that? I hate to hear it so fast. I looked at the original score at ISMLP (I think copied by his son) and there is no indication whatsoever. Bar 30 is so great just by itself, I really want to slow it up and savour it! But it seems completely at odds with classical practice, not that I care. So how do we really KNOW that tempo change is indicated by Bach?
@evanlohning
@evanlohning 6 лет назад
found your live masterclass on this work, thank you!
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 лет назад
That bar is a mystery, since, indeed the indication of "presto" -if it would be really by Bach is hard to say, but there are sources close to him anyway, could mean double tempo in this context, but I don't feel that either in that spot. So, at the end, there are many places like this, where we can at most create a certain amount of "possibilities" rather than absolute solutions, and then... we choose !
@evanlohning
@evanlohning 6 лет назад
In my perfect rendition of the prelude, everything would come to a head-rushing climax at bar 30, like as you say as that rolling ball following gravity, echoing the emotions. Those two voices are magic at that point.
@juliusodiaodia223
@juliusodiaodia223 3 года назад
I also felt so too .especially with the diminished and Dominant 7ths
@Boldstrummer
@Boldstrummer 2 года назад
Sounds like B minor . . . to me
@javierdiazsantana
@javierdiazsantana 3 года назад
A very mechanical, rhythmic interpretation, i think does not really does justice to the character of the prelude. The harmonies are so complex, so emotionally dense and dark, playing it like a machine really leaves it really flat.
@eladpeleg745
@eladpeleg745 4 года назад
I think he doesn't actually play in c minor, it sounds off. Not like c minor at least...
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 4 года назад
a'=408
@barronhung8246
@barronhung8246 3 года назад
do you have perfect pitch
@eladpeleg745
@eladpeleg745 3 года назад
@@barronhung8246 nope yeah apparently it's baroque pitch which is a bit lower
@bhushanmalik
@bhushanmalik 2 года назад
The thumbnail and the content of the video do not match…
@keithramsell9955
@keithramsell9955 3 года назад
Why on earth do you need the sheet? (I recorded 6 Solo violin sonatas by memory. It' not hard!) I'm a genius? Ask my kids!!!
@tomasjosefpiano8902
@tomasjosefpiano8902 3 года назад
What
@gergokovacs3332
@gergokovacs3332 3 года назад
There is 2 approach. Either you play it by heart, or as Wim Winters do you play it by heart, but with the music sheet in front of you. I prefer the second option too. Especially if you are lucky to have a Facsimile edition, that's the gift Bach gave to the mankind.
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