1 YEAR REVIEW OF BMW R 1250 GS Standard | Likes/Dislikes/Cost of Ownership

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Here it is - after owning my R1250GS for one year, I felt it was time to give a review of my likes/dislikes and cost of ownership and while I do love about the bike, but ownership has not been entirely trouble-free.
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@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

I see we are getting a lot of Comments on why I (Rich) is not doing the oils change myself. Here’s the answer. This bike is still under warranty and I want to keep any doubt of warranty rejection for not having motor issues. When out of warranty I will be doing the services myself.

@40spokes99 2 года назад

As long as you document in your BMW owners manual the miles, oil filter, lubricants, spark plugs, air filters etc you use, the warranty can’t be voided. Taking photos with a time stamp of the parts will help.

@GreatOutdoorAdventure 2 года назад

Smart move.

@davidfalgout7304 2 года назад

@@40spokes99 40 spokes is correct....100%. Plus BMW's know when they are out of warranty. At which point, there is a 50/50 change they become thief's of your money. For the kind of riding y'all do, specially the off road stuff... a Honda 300 would be perfect. Itchy boots rides one all over the world. If honda would build a 350cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank, at the same approximate weight as the 300.... they would flat out own the ADV world!

@davidfalgout7304 2 года назад

Just a thought y'all have probably had. I have watched all of your videos, so I kind of have a sense of how y'all think. 40 spokes is correct....100%. Plus the BMW knows when it is out of warranty. At which point, there is a 50/50 change they become thief's of your money. For the kind of riding y'all do, specially the off road stuff... a Honda 300 would be perfect. Itchy boots rides one all over the world. If honda would build a 350cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank, at the same approximate weight as the 300.... they would flat out own the ADV world! Rich and Chris....i have owned the 1200GS before. It requires dealer support at times. I also owned the same K bike you did. I got rid of that thing. Left me stranded twice. I was waiting for the exact problem yours had, to happen to me. Thank God I got rid of it before then. As a BMW affection-ado for 40 yrs, and a previous BMW tech.... I came to the sad conclusion that BMW COMPLETELY LOST ITS MOJO- AND I LOST ALL RESPECT for BMW. This all started in or about the year 2000. BMW finally got it back for the years 2010 to 2012. The 2010 to 2012 are SUPER RELIABLE.... BUT YOU HAVE TO BABY THE CLUTCH! They don't last long off road. On road they are good for 100,000 miles. Then BMW was pushed to meet EPA B.S. wants.... then along came Mr. LC. It is fraught with issues. Even the the 1250's have problems with soft cams. There is no excuse for this! I wish y'all the best. Happy trails and may the road rise to meet you, may the sun always shine upon you....and may the GOOD LORD hold you in the palm of HIS hand.

@BrianBraaten 2 года назад

Harley Dealerships try to make people think that too. But it’s not true.It’s a lot easier though i know how too but I drink my friends beer while he does mine in his shop.Cheap enough that I think I’m coming out ahead

@bigbossman3806 2 года назад

Love traveling with you guys through your videos. That's an awesome bike but the cost of oil changes are insane, just seems like highway robbery.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

cost of everything is high

@petermacgregor9805 2 года назад

I bought my GSA out of warranty and do all the oil changes, etc myself. It is extremely easy and inexpensive to diy. Also, if you get a flat tire, removing the tire yourself and then taking it to the dealer will save $$.

@vidablue734 Год назад

Truth be told, it's not your skill set! It is a behemoth off road! Amongst my several Bikes that I currently own, I also have A Norden 901. That bike is better off road , including snotty , si gle tracks than the GS is on pavement.

@peterblacklin9174 2 года назад

It lives up to "Bring More Wallet". Very nice bike but very high cost of ownership if you have a shop do the maintenance. Thanks for a realistic review.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

No doubt!

@sixsigmax 2 года назад

My KTM, “Keep Throwing Money”, isn’t any better from a total cost of ownership perspective. Food is a necessity…high-end adventure motorcycles, not so. They are objects of sheer desire. The joy of riding justifies the costs for most riders. Safe and memorable adventures to all.

@bikealways 2 года назад

Couldn't Richard have done some of the oil changes? $2,700 is pretty pricey for a year. However you do put a lot of miles in

@cuffeteaghlach5617 2 года назад

I think Rich is a great guy, but at times, he's a real airhead.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

this bike is under warranty. I worked for several manufactures and i just want to ensure the major parts are covered if there is a failure.

@jamesfrench7233 2 года назад

Since you’re not having to carry everything you own on your motorcycle anymore, a midsize adv bike would be a better choice.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Sure would but this is what we have.

@dougstoutenborough6461 2 года назад

I hate to be negative but I use to own & ride Beemers. But the service cost priced me out. The #1 service that is just crazy is the 600mi most dealerships are $400 & up. With bikes like the African Twin from Honda it’s Honda now.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

i can understand

@lawrencebrandt8448 2 года назад

the mandatory oil changes by the dealer is why I didn't buy a BMW I have always done my own service on my Harleys, I was going to buy a touring model .the shock replacement is bogus ,the bike is to big for you . that cover will 250 dollars

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

The cover was $60 at Bobs BMW i thought that was reasonable

@Sledge-fu5zr 2 года назад

Cost of ownership sounds right. Nothing cheap about motorcycling.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Agreed

@SupRBeeADV 2 года назад

Gee wizz cant have nothing nice when Richard rides your bike LOL.....wow i am shocked on the cost of an oil change as well..

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Yes I agree. I would do myself if not under warranty. 🤦‍♂️😳

@johnbarron618 2 года назад

Honda cb 500 x the answer to all your needs . Light very economical service is way cheaper and purchase price very good. 49 hp tho and it's enough

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

They are nice. found one that so far is perfect for Chris. Stay tuned

@joanelsullivan7866 2 года назад

You should check out The Smoaks channel on you tube . Shawn is a certified BMW technician. He can show and tell you everything you'll ever need to know about any BMW and how to repair it.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks

@davidgartner2422 Год назад

Shawn is a certified BMW mechanic who owns like 5 Harley's and a Suzuki.Kinda makes one wonder.

@harley62t 2 года назад

Why don't you change your own oil and filter??? You carry tools; you have to wait on the dealer to schedule and perform the oil change. It's easy and would save you time and a lot of $$$!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@LeAnn610 2 года назад

Since you bought the adventure bike, your videos are becoming a little stale. SSDD

@LeAnn610 2 года назад

With your new camper, and the type of riding you do now, a cheap Honda would be just as good or better.

@bobreynolds9310 2 года назад

6ft tall? Wow. Anyway, broke down and bought a gs yesterday. Triple black standard model. Of course I wouldn't have been able to without my wonderful wife of 44 years being on board with it. Y'all have a great channel. I'll keep watching while I try and figure out some of the gadgets on this new bike. Be safe.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Awesome Congratulations!! There are lots of things to learn on those bikes. great features.

@keithdixon3896 5 месяцев назад

Do BMW owners fit the panniers for the take out Caramel Lattes?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 5 месяцев назад

No they go to Starbucks 🤣🤣

@hrmacdonald4471 2 года назад

Thanks for the ownership review of your 1250GS, it was quite interesting... maybe you can do a Part 2 and have Richard add a few comments. Thanks again for all the great content in your video's ... stay safe!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks HR

@user-qv4rj3fo9b 2 года назад

Hmmm? Must be some kind of hand-made designer oil.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Must be

@neillunderhill6907 2 года назад

Amazing bikes and worth every penny. Nice summary!!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@garytjarks6506 2 года назад

Cris, Take the cover off Rich's bike. Ha Ha

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Yes

@dougaugustine933 2 года назад

Hi Chris - What touring windshield brand/model did you add? I thought maybe it was a BMW part but can't find it.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

It’s is the BMW touring windscreen it’s the same shape but wider and taller. We got it from GO AZ in Scottsdale AZ

@dougaugustine933 2 года назад

@@TwoWheelsBigLife Thanks Chris!! Is Rich still using the stock GSA windscreen on this bike and is he generally happy with it?

@GotToThink4yourself 2 года назад

Wow, I’m in total disbelief of the coast for oil changes. I’m owning the R1200RT basically the road equivalent of the gs. Doing my own oil changes (while traveling on the fly, or at home), filter and oil @ $50. Final drive oil change takes less then 200cc of 80w90 oil, I do this every tire change $20. Transmission oil 1 quart,.... I thought you where on a budget. Surely Chris has tools to open a drain plug. Dang my annual maintenance isn’t anywhere near yours. If you need pointers doing those hit me up.

@ryanmalone2681 2 года назад

I’d prefer to have my weekends free for riding snd family rather than. Doing my own service. If I was retired, it’d be different. Also, I earn a lot so it’s not really significant to me. Service isn’t a ripoff unless it’s not of value to you.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@billh4301 2 года назад

@@TwoWheelsBigLife As stated by the previous posters, a dealer is not required to perform normal services to keep the warranty intact. I was a warranty analyst for many years and I never saw a claim denied for owner performing oil changes. Now if they caused damage to the engine by leaving drain plug out or forgetting to add new oil that would be a problem.

@brianhoffies4846 2 года назад

Always a good thing when you aren't disappointed with a purchase. Stay safe.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks

@tt55k 2 года назад

So learning how to do your own oil changes will save a lot of money .

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Very true! I do know i just want no issues with warranty if an engine fails

@Vstromxt Год назад

As you can tell by my username. You cant go wrong with a vstrom. 650 or 1050. Rock solid reliable. Much cheaper maintaince costs. I do my own oil changes and tune ups. Oil changes are pretty simple. 4 screws to take the skid plate off, drain plug and filter, takes 10-15 minutes. The new 800 could be good for you. Or the Honda Trans Alp 750.

@ghostpepperrides4805 2 года назад

$230.00 a month to maintain your BMW. X2. I’m sure Chris your next bike will be lower weight. You would be even happier and drops less. Now Rich I see him keeping his bike a bit longer. Happy for you both. Love the new travel setup. Smart move.

@parkview113 Год назад

Dear Chris. Back with your channel after a break ... I am a retired 69 male. I had a GS 1200 on a 2017 plate and had no trouble getting it on the centre stand - currently have a GS 1250 on a 2019 plate and I just can't centre stand it - so frustrating. When you had the 1250 was Richard able to get it onto the centrestand ? (Got a big catchup now with your vids I missed - been obcessed with the new tiny electric Citroen Ami and have one now so reverting back to bikes again ... Bill Kerr in England - an original early subscriber to your channel

@TwoWheelsBigLife Год назад

welcome back William. I remember your earlier comments, and Yes Rich could get that and his 1250 GSA on the center stand. Thanks Again for watching

@parkview113 Год назад

@@TwoWheelsBigLife thanks for getting back to me .... I must revise my technique.... perhaps being 69 I am just getting muscle wastage ! Very possible !! Keep dropping the bike - did so recently while wife was pillion, while stationery at a juction... must have put the wrong foot down, and as you know, when it stats to go over... nothing you can do about it - wife(who has early dementia) ended up on road - not good ... perhaps time for a scooter or a 250... I think I dropped the bike three times while on a group tour of the Scottish Highlands in April. Love your vids and as I say will get back into them having been "Citroen Ami " (tiny electric quadricycle) orientated for the last months watching every available You Tube on the subject. As people say, centrestanding is "all in the push down with the leg and very little arm action - must refine technique - thanks for your support and getting back to me ... Bill in the UK (S. Coast opp France)

@parkview113 Год назад

Chris , - I got it up the stand - first time of trying since you e mailed back and I had "refreshed" technique with a couple of How To vids... delighted - all weight through the leg; double checked it was on both"feet"; right hand on a cross frame, lower than I had before as was holding luggage /grip rack; rocked the bike a couple of times and "presto" !!! So pleased ... will nevertheless stick with the exercise stretch bands as am sure over time as you get older you "loose it" ... also have the skateboard ready to go to get the old balance sorted out - delighted. Must do it a few more times to consolidate as the experts advise.

@MrSkurtenb 2 года назад

Great review,with some very honest observations! Two things that were surprising to me: the cost of maintenance, and the fuel mileage. My wife rides a 2020 HD street glide special 114 that weighs about 300 lbs heavier than the beemer, and also averages between 46 and 50 mpg. I thought for sure the bmw would be better on gas being a much lighter bike and a smaller engine. Great review of the bike and love your channel

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Yes we agree this gets about the same as our Ms Alice when the GS is at 70mph it runs at 4k rpm under 60mph get about 50mpg

@martinhughes9769 2 года назад

I've been looking at several road tests on this bike British version, running costs in Wales GB costs don't seem so expensive here looking on the BMW forums, I'm 65 years old with lots of health issues, Been riding a Kawasaki sx 1000 for several years annual service with Kawasaki is £ 175 generally = USA $ 207 approximate ,all I've spent ,however the bike was just out of warranty warped discs front milage was low Kawasaki wasn't happy to replace them I phoned and emailed Kawasaki UK telling them how disappointed I was and eventually after 2 / 3 weeks agreed to pay half £ 300 , US $355 ish, no problems other than this ,thats why I've always stuck with Japanese overall cost in 5 years £1150 thats servicing plus I'm on second set of Michelin 5s £ 300 x 2 sets total £ 1750 ish replacement discs and pads included if I've calculated it right it's a great bike fantastic value, BMs have great bikes but the little niggles I'm not so sure if it's for me bike are becoming like cars full of electronics !!

@TheJAMTUB 2 года назад

What made you get a 1250 cc bike? If I may ask. I know It's a great bike but does it make sense to choose a big heavy bike when there's a good choice of 700 to 900 cc bikes on the market which are lighter and easier to live with. I had a Yamaha Super Tenere for 4 years. It's a great , reliable and very comfortable bike. I loved it. But it's a beast and weighs 265 Kgs (slightly more than a GS Adventure). I was touring in Italy with my wife on our bikes (she has a Honda 500X), and at one point I said to her.. " When we get home I'm selling this and getting a lighter bike". That was my main criteria for a new contender (apart from the obvious). I just decided with practicality as my main issue (as sometimes I envied my wife's very light bike). So I opted for an F850GS. Not the adventure as I don't need 23 litres of fuel. It's a bike I like , it's relatively much lighter, great fuel economy and handles like a dream. Since I ride without a pillion I don't need the huge amounts of torque either. The more I ride it the more I love it. It'll do around 350 Kms on a tank full. Perfect as where we ride in Europe there are petrol stations everywhere. Stopping to stretch my legs and refuel is a welcome stop so I have the right bike for me. Each to his/her own I s. But sometimes (and I've seen this happen a lot in my 30 years of riding) people don't buy the bike that truly fits them. They sometimes try too hard to fit the bike they like. Point in case, a friend bought his partner a GS1250. She's a bit vertically challenged. So he got her a factory low model, then changed the link and also got her the low seat. Now the GS looks like a chopper... And she still drops it a lot. Just saying.

@bigjoe4020 2 года назад

Weight ! - Seems to be the #1 issue for most people, big or small especially if you take it to the dirt. Wouldn't that be great if they made a bike 1/2 the weight but as good as the big GS is.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Yes That would be awesome

@gregoryhumphrey2831 2 года назад

Don't include the price of the battery cover. That is all on Rich!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Yes that's on me

@gregoryhumphrey2831 2 года назад

@@TwoWheelsBigLife Happens to us all. I left a phone on top of a fuel pump. Went back and it was gone (of course).

@ColinPopoviciu 2 года назад

You should have bought the Honda cbx500 or the nc750. lighter and cheaper to maintain

@SticksAandstonesBozo 2 года назад

Is this the factory lowered model ?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

No this is the Standard

@Talon6551 2 года назад

Very nice bike, but seems like a lot of money for an oil change.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

It is thats what was spent

@jefflink4671 2 года назад

Oil changes….thats asinine pricing, sorry to be blunt, but if you ride you have to, no rephrase, you need to do your own routine maintenance. Suzuki V-Strom at a fraction of that BMW. Not to mention Yamaha and Honda have bikes that will out perform.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@jefflink4671 2 года назад

@@TwoWheelsBigLife Sorry you have to go through this, IMO that is a tactic used by many mfger’s.. Self reliance is getting phased out in the world. I make it a habit to ask these questions before I purchase anything. If it just fits and lines their pockets I move on.

@thereplacementfordisplacement 2 года назад

Your costs would be worst case for someone with the same issues since you don't service it yourself but according to my calculations on a $/mi basis for the cost of ownership you are on par with what it costs to ride it in fuel at $4.50/gal best case price as of right now in my area. About 10 cents/mi. Every review on costs of ownership should be in $/mi to make it somewhat translatable. More expensive and newer bikes cost more to register and insure as well. Thanks for the video, very jealous, wish I could put in 24kmi on a bike in a year, I've never been able to do that but I have never tried either, someday...

@armadilllo 2 года назад

Some oil changes were very expensive and some oil changes are insanely stupid expensive. holy crap! Very odd how I can have my three cars, 4 motorcycles and motorhome oil changed total of all for well under $500. Cars and motorhome done at Speedy, bikes by me. Law says they cannot reject warranty if you document oil changes done yourself or by others. I've had 3 GSs and 1 RT all new and was never denied any warranty doing them myself. I usually hold my nose and let them do the first one but none after that.

@atfromaz 2 года назад

Hi guys. Thanks for the one year review. Doh! Plus the cost of a battery cover. 🤣

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

My bad

@austinmatthews347 Год назад

You are getting robbed. In uk 600 mile service is £100 also you can put hill start control into manual mode or switched it off

@6fiddy309 2 года назад

$1500 headlight…😳… I will pass..ridiculous…👎

@Sixbears 2 года назад

Thanks for the review. As I suspected, great road bike but too heavy to really handle serious dirt. Also not too big on the price of oil changes. Guess I like doing my own changes on my Honda for less than $20.

@davidsilvius756 2 года назад

What kind of oil are you using to get off so cheap at $20?

@Sixbears 2 года назад

@@davidsilvius756 most motorcycles run just fine on oil formulated for diesel engines. Really.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Fair enough!

@PatsAdventuresTravels 2 года назад

Great video. If I may say. Now that you have the GS911 do your own oil changes for about 100 buck yourself. Do all your 12K service and then let the dealer do the valve check. That's what I have been doing and have already recouped the cost of the GS911.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Great point!

@karisumner4709 2 года назад

Was wondering if you had any issues with stand over and that question has been answered😃 6 foot tall, so different question is that both feet flat on the ground or one foot flat on the ground at stops. I’m only 5’6 and this is a minor concern as I look at different ADVs.

@hariharanramasubramani1834 Год назад

Great review. Do you regret not buying gsa? If no, why? Is the 5.2 gallon is enough for long travel or do you have to stop frequently?

@SticksAandstonesBozo 2 года назад

500 dollars for an oil change. Yeah. I think that’s about as insane as gets. Sad they take advantage of people like that.

@emfl4437 2 года назад

Excellent review, I appreciate the honest review. The GS or the RT are on my moto-dream list. Enjoy 🏍️

@stevenharris7788 2 года назад

You have been robbed 250 pounds per year to look after my gs 1250 correctly you have been taken to the cleaners

@dperique 2 года назад

Hey, nice review. I'm considering a 2022 GS adventure (low suspension) and was wondering about how it is offroad given it seems like a big/heavy bike. I have a 2020 Vstrom and it seems thinner and lighter and fun. Your review helped. I love the idea of it being really good on pavement but I'd like to be able to travel offroad as well (nothing narly as I'm very new to this ADV thing). I still struggle with the idea of dropping a 25K bike when I want to travel unpaved roads occasionally. I haven't dropped a bike in a decade but I've never wanted to ride off road until last year so just planning ahead. Thanks again.

@johnasbury9915 Год назад

I got my (new to me) 2018 GSA about a month ago and finally got to take her on some fire roads today. She did pretty well, big old girl but the Enduro setting smoothed a lot of stuff out. It’s nice to be able to romp the rear and the ABS on the front is really nice. I took my 2010 GS on some single track, dropped it a few times but made it back. I’m not good enough to single track these beasts but they will handle fire roads like nothing. Opens up options when you’re out exploring

@samuroadventure1227 2 года назад

Oil change? yeah, $400 for an oil change, that's why I do it myself on my 2020 GSA and it cost me about $100. The problem is the labor the dealer charges almost $300 to do it. I just did the brake fluid flush and rear brake pad change today 😁

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@samuroadventure1227 2 года назад

Understand that.

@fredderf6208 2 года назад

$400 oil change? Jeez.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

i know

@jaimeriveras 2 года назад

Great review. I have a 2019 and agree with your conclusions. I suggest putting the hill brake control in manual. I like the bike offroad - I have knobby tires on - but the weight is indeed a stress factor (I’m 69 and 5’7). In a couple of years I will sell it and get a lighter model.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thats funny

@robertjacobson1608 2 года назад

Looking for new video of your new bike. I'm excited to see what you are getting.

@MotoXplor 2 года назад

With a truck and trailer now, you can carry an oil change container, do your own oil changes, and dump it at an auto parts store when you're in town. You'll save a hell of a lot of money. If you have a warranty, just buy original parts and save the receipts. I had a GSA but hated the $$$ maintenance. I'm happy with fuel sipping Honda now. Safe travels!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@colingoldthorpe5918 2 года назад

Love the comments about the cost of an oil change against a Honda!!! First of all the Honda Africa Twin is way taller and not even in the same league as the GS. I’m a Triumph guy and even I admit that Triumph explorers have nothing on the GS. Thanks for the review Kris !!!!!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@parkview113 2 года назад

Dear Chris. so sorry to hear you were/are not totally happy with the GS... its not so different from your previous model though... (which also had the size and weight.. ) I can tell from your positive comments on the bike that you appreciate its engineering and capabilities, but also understand it maybe not quite right for you... (bikes are such a personal "fit" aren't they ? ! ).. I have had successively the r1200 and now the 2019 r1250 Rallye and actually I believe that BMW may have gone too far with the electronics and extras - its maybe too much - so much so that its a distraction... ( I came off the road riding to Scotland last Sept and wrote the 1200 off hitting a kerb on a bend just 10 miles from my destination in Edinburgh to join a tour - tiredness too much distraction I feel looking at TFT's and the NAV 6 ! A lethal combination of factors.. Think you will appreciate this with your rides - the sheer gutsyness of a 500 mile boring trip to get from A to B . I hope that you find the right bike - my own instinct is that you will go for something lighter and with an easier handling - like an 850.. ? I hope your off road recent adventures did not influence you too much... coming off a 1200 or 1250 off road or ANYWHERE is not a good experience

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks William the bike is fantastic and the tarmac and capable on the dirt for sure, but bigger isn't always better. the River Road in Bi9g bend taught us some lessons and we are more experienced. We haven't given up on those roads but won't see them very often. I just love your thoughtful comments Thanks Chris

@PEOdysseus Год назад

Sounds like an expensive bike to maintain. It would be fun but a lot of money.

@jake6618 2 года назад

Pretty pricey oil changes.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Tell me about it

@letitrest4662 2 года назад

Expensive upkeep is why I ride a Yamaha. I do my own oil changes, and even use Amsoil. With the Yamaha filter, about $85.00

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing

@abellseaman4114 2 года назад

Oh yes - oil changes by the official mechanic ensures no trouble with any warranty claim..........and I dont know what that BMW fully synthetic oil costs in United States but here in Canada the required 3 litres of oil and filter are $100 dollars - the wage for mechanic is extra! As for the weight of the 1150 GS - I must admit to being surprised that you did not look harder at bmw 750gs with its wet weight (includes fuel and oil) that makes a 750gs at least 100 pounds lighter than 1150gs and that weight reduction makes a major difference on trails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The added bonus of a 750gs is that it can run on regular 87 octane gas - no need for costly premium stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From experience I can say that 750gs also gets at least 60 miles to an Imperial gallon which is slightly larger than a US gallon - this translates into 4 litres per 100 kilometres even when in city traffic...................and of course that 750gs runs much more fuel efficiently at slow trail speeds than a 1150 gs...............though the 750gs will not be as happy about 70-80 mile per hour runs on a highway as its 77 horse power will be working much harder than 1150gs! Mind you - since you spend so much time on byways and scenic routes- maybe you would not care about reduced super highway performance?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

👍

@edhawkins1 2 года назад

Maybe the 850gs would have been a better bike?

@paulricher5547 2 года назад

To much COST in overhead. MY1999 Harley hasn't cast that much in service. Oil change and lube controls Etc.Do it myself no shop cost.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

👍

@Triumph-iv8hi 2 года назад

Nice bikes but seem a bit overkill now you are not towing or moving all your kit with them , plus heavy off road,especially when dropped and need picking up a few times. Keep up the good work.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Fair enough! we are listening

@Triumph-iv8hi 2 года назад

Maybe something like a Honda CB500 x with the appropriate tires might work for you. Lighter better gas mileage and still quick enough for your needs , the only down side is the chain drive to maintain.

@dejonsmall9886 2 года назад

BMW bikes like the cars you will need 2 things, A warranty and a pocket full of money. I had a 03 325 i. It was a POS after the warranty was up. Got Chevy Malibu, been happy ever since...

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

👍

@juans3728 2 года назад

I personally prefer Japanese bikes, cost less , will do anything expensive bikes do, handsome, user maintenance friendly and they will last longer and lets not forget Honda has been manufacturing in the United States since 1959 in California then in Marysville Ohio the first motorcycle was built CR250R Elsinore and the last motorcycle built was the famous Goldwing GL1800 June 24, 2009. Chris this is a great video and when you tell people " It's not what you ride but it's your ride " i feel you are referring to me and i love it, thanks , Peace.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

✌️

@johnfrye8452 2 года назад

I am cheap, no way I would ever pay that much for an oil change. No way.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing it to ensure no warranty rejection

@markmcintosh7095 2 года назад

I would have guessed that you were 50. Motorcycles must keep you young. Fun channel.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Yep i married an older women

@nancyfithian4984 2 года назад

Great review of the BMW and we found out you are 6 feet tall! No wonder you don't have a problem with tall bikes! 😄I'm 5'7" (I used to be a little over 5'8"!) and have about 31" to the ground ("inseam"). The seat on my Super Tenere is set at the low position (about 33") and with the narrow seat front and sag, I can nearly flat-foot it.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

yes she is tall

@richardvalitalo3670 2 года назад

I had a flat on my Honda, ok I called CAA. Had that covered, towed to the dealer, ok. After a week to get the tube & 1 hr. labour cost me $150 ! Now I stock my own spare tubes & not gonna be a whole week not riding !

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Bummer

@bamills6771 2 года назад

Check out the Tenere 700. It is a nice middle weight bike. Almost as good as the GS on Highways - but way easier on Dirt. I have pretty much stopped riding my GSA on dirt and only use the T7

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

None available we looked for one

@brentoneal5989 2 года назад

Buy a Honda. 1/4 the cost to maintain

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

I don't have a Honda Its a review on a BMW

@BrianBraaten 2 года назад

If I didn’t like the mirrors I would just change the mirrors. I’ve never had a bike more than a few hours that I didn’t immediately start changing everything I didn’t like on it

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

i can but haven't found any that we like

@stevebeggs8327 2 года назад

The Double Take Adventure mirrors are excellent. Just put them on my 2018 GSA. They are a huge improvement and extremely easy to adjust.

@wlingrell 2 года назад

I can't believe oil changes cost so much. Dealers are stealer. I would think Richard would be able to change oil which would cost way less then a hundred bucks. But enjoy your riding.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

I can and will do everything on after the warranty. i don't want to risk a warranty rejection for not having documentation. full time traveling we have lost some things along the road

@ronladuke7235 2 года назад

BMW motor cycles and cars are are very pricey to buy, but the maintenance and repair cost is absolutely ridiculous. All you have had done is the most basic maintenance, thankfully you didn’t have to pay for that shock,that would be a couple thousand just for the part! Oil change on a diesel truck is a hundred dollars but they take 12 quarts of oil.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@flyermarkbig465 2 года назад

I follow the same process while my bikes are under warranty and then do all maintenance myself after. The boxer maintenance is very easy overall. Even the valve adjustments. That said I went with a F850GSA instead. I enjoyed it more than the 1250 based on my test rides. I do wish I had shaft drive versus chain maintenance though. ADD.....the 600 mile maintenance is more than just an oil change at a competent dealer. Just fyi.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

AWESOME. you get it. That's the reason.

@occyman 2 года назад

Well I see it as the cost of enjoying being out there doing 24,000miles in a year so cost of maintenance is directly related to the number of miles your doing and who does the work for you.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Exactly. we are putting on the miles

@leftfield123 2 года назад

I'd love a GS but wondered why you both need such heavy bikes considering that neither are your primary means of transportation. Before the truck and trailer they made sense, now are they really needed? Lots of mid sized bikes that are cheaper, lighter, less maintenance, while still comfortable for the shorter rides you're now doing.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

This is what we thought we wanted.

@steventalbott903 2 года назад

Had a few BMW's, the airheads were far superior to the oilheads. Nearly maintenance free. Then I bought an R1150, that cured me of BMW's, what a pain. After it went out of warranty, I couldn't afford to ride it. Everything from defective pushrods to poorly designed clutch assemblies.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

👍👍

@othoapproto9603 2 года назад

Thanks for a wonderfull video, I love my GSA, but was surprised on the body parts, Yea that side cover is hard to fit.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@BlackdogADV 2 года назад

I’m a long time 1200GS rider and my oil changes are $50-$60 and that includes the final drive. Been doing it since new. $2,700 for the first year? Check out my channel where I do a 80,000 mile review, it’s been an inexpensive bike to maintain and is absolutely perfect.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

I'm having the dealerships do the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@BlackdogADV 2 года назад

I’m pretty sure you can change your own oil without voiding the warranty.

@plowboy006 2 года назад

Oh one other question. On your previous bike you had an issue with the rear wheel and BMW said it would require a complete swing arm replacement, at what milage did that occur? And has either of you current bikes shown any signs of similar wear?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Great question. The GT had some other underlying issues besides just the rear drive. That went out at 90k and no for the current bikes. That I am watching closely to prevent that from happening. Thanks

@drewsbenmad 2 года назад

German Engineerd products are always pricey to buy and maintain. It’s a good bike if you can afford it but it’s not for those on a budget.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

yep;

@peterhobbs7609 2 года назад

Great bike there, albeit a bit pricey for servicing, but I guess that’s part of BMW ownership

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Unfortunately

@jpkillibrew1638 11 месяцев назад

Why is an oil change so expensive?

@richardmorrison2686 2 года назад

I weigh double what you weigh , I get by on a 250 just fine , what is your cost per year of ownership ?

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Cost per mile road is under $.10 a mile

@byever1 2 года назад

I'm waiting for my dealership to call me to pickup my GSA. Any day now!

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Sweet.

@plowboy006 2 года назад

You would think fluid service should be covered to a certain point under warranty or at least reasonably priced. Your cost for that is outrageous.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

👍

@ADriftingLife 2 года назад

Hope you already sold the other GS after that review! 😆 Looking forward to seeing what your next bike will be.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

That's the plan!

@boscodog4358 2 года назад

Bet you don't know it, but there are utube videos that will show you how to change your own oil. Don't know for sure but you can do it for under a 100$

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@glennanderson3725 2 года назад

Don't dispair about the BMW. You can save lots of expense if you learn to do your own maintenance. Oil and final drive changes are easy. Stock up on filters and oil. Buy a torque wrench and an oil filter wrench. I also carry the BMW shop manual on CD. I recall Rich is using a Mac. Can you get the GS911 to work on it? I carry a PC just for the GS911 and the repair CD. I also do my own tire changes. Yes, I have a No-Mar tire changer at home. I only go to the shop for the bike inspection because it is now 10 years old.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Dealerships doing the oil changes to ensure no warranty rejection

@petermacgregor9805 2 года назад

If you buy a K & N oil filter, you do not even need an oil filter wrench! It comes with a wrench off nut for easy removal. IMHO, K&N products are great. Try the air filter. It is reusable and just has to be cleaned and lasts a lifetime! Therefore better for the environment and a great ROI!

@roegiersmusic 2 года назад

Excellent review! Just wondering how the Honda Africa Twin and Harley Davidson Pan America would be comparable? I really enjoy your channel and all of your videos and adventures 🤘🏻😎🇺🇸

@edholtgraver7771 2 года назад

I have a 2021 Africa Twin Adventure and a 2020 R1250GS Adventure. One day I greatly prefer the AT and the next day I greatly prefer the GS. Generally for long paved road rides I take the GS for comfort and for short or dirt road rides it is the AT. Both are excellent bikes.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

👍👍

@dnbanb 2 года назад

Daggonit Richard

@screddot7074 2 года назад

You meet the nicest people on a Honda. Seems like right where you ought to be Chris.

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

but we have a BMW not a Honda

@ImNotADeeJay 2 года назад

Nice bike but too tall and too heavy. Best suited for tall and strong riders

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

yep

@bogusmyleene6989 2 года назад

What about insurance????👎🏻👎🏻

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Insurance is cheap for us less the $50 for full coverage on this bike

@cray1185 2 года назад

Great review, thank you. I will always be an admirer of the BMW adventure bikes [ F700/750GS - F800/850GS -and especially the R1200/1250GS bikes ]. When one passes me it always turns my head. But due to the high cost of purchase and ownership, and concerning manufacture changes to BMWs over the years,…I will just have to keep enjoying my Suzuki V-Strom. Your BMW is a beautiful bike, and I will always dream of owning one. Sometimes it is good to just keep the dream.

@parkview113 2 года назад

continued... I felt looking at those off road desert expeditions that they put you both perhaps out of your comfort zones - (realise you have grown up with bikes, but a 500lb. big adventure bike is a beast and better to stay on tarmac with... there are so many smaller and easier to handle machines for off-road tumbles... I am almost 69 and I find even getting the bike pushed reverse ways out of a gage with a fractional gradient against me a real trial sometimes - its OK when you are on the move with the low centre of balance - you could be on a push-bike !! Forgive me but I'd go straight for an 850 BM or KTM - perfect and without quite so much electronics... Respect and admire your honestly... just one thing you mentioned your dislike of the mirrors on the 1250 - they are pretty much a standard design throughout the BM Adventure range - I immediately felt, (pardon me), that this was hardly an excuse to ditch the bike - it surprised me - again - forgive me , Chris !! Bill Kerr in the south of England right opposite the French coast.

@tomfillmore9710 2 года назад

good review didn't realize the bike was that heavy you do very well on it for being a heavy bike oil changes are very expensive for sure just like everything else these days sorry about your cover hope you find it take care ride safe

@TwoWheelsBigLife 2 года назад

Thanks! 👍