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@marcel123442
@marcel123442 Год назад
0:00 Blood Dk 0:30 Veng Dh 2:10 Guardian Druid 4:40 Brew Monk 4:47 Prot Pala 6:42 Prot Warri
@steveskeet1
@steveskeet1 Год назад
Blizzard: Having fun tanking? Me: Yes ! Blizzard: We can fix that for you
@adverbs626
@adverbs626 Год назад
lemme guess, you are a druid :) whats fun for you is not fun for every other tank class :)
@steveskeet1
@steveskeet1 Год назад
@@adverbs626 I play multi class tanks…
@panda8bamboo161
@panda8bamboo161 Год назад
@@steveskeet1 get used to it, people almost always come to comment with pure malice
@katta309
@katta309 Год назад
I don’t understand why they hate bear so much, I’ve mained bear since bfa and not once before this season has it been able to do as well as the other tanks if you ask me, so why are they going back to hating on the bear?? 😢
@pr3287
@pr3287 Год назад
@@steveskeet1 and what's wrong with tanks? Brewmaster is looking much better than it is now, BDK after tier set change is looking amazing, VDH will get a rework meaning you will for sure be able to spend more talent points, take sigil of chains etc, Prot pally got a nice change to tier set even though its still not that fun cuz its linked to consecration, bear may not be super meta anymore but thats fine no? Right now bear is absurdly tanky, you can pull dozens of mobs in brackenhide and live, the only thing stopping you from pulling basically whole dungeon is your party dying not you.
@Dorki
@Dorki Год назад
After looking at the bear tierset changes and some logs, it could be pretty nuts for higher ends content despite the big nerfs to Blood Frenzy
@weestonp4190
@weestonp4190 Год назад
The BF nerf feels pretty bad, but overall I think having to be more careful with rage placement will make for a more interesting playstyle. I will miss just spamming raze and ironfur while still being near rage cap.
@griffongaming4736
@griffongaming4736 Год назад
@@MitchPls Did anyone actually run First of the Illidari over demonic?
@griffongaming4736
@griffongaming4736 Год назад
@@MitchPls Actually wait even to further it is gonna be 2 minutes seeing as rush of chaos still exists. If First of the illidari wasnt removed you could have gotten the cd down to 1 minute. I doubt even with that you wouldn't just run demonic for fel dev metas
@davidsmellie386
@davidsmellie386 Год назад
@@MitchPls First of the Illidari was never taken as it was a choice node with demonic. Rush of Chaos is the talent Dorki was referring to.
@rickybigdam8127
@rickybigdam8127 Год назад
Should probably increase rage gen per target if it’s being capped at 5. Might also change bears niche of having to pull 20 mobs to live
@lycros1326
@lycros1326 Год назад
I think they could pretty easily make the pally tier really great without breaking immersion by coding the empowered Consecrates as a player buff instead of a totem, and having the empowered consecrate follow the paladin around. Something like “light surges through the paladin consecrating any ground they move to within 10 yards for 10 seconds etc.” Like the SL Lego that gave earth ele earthquake. Could reduce radius if people are worried about pulling stuff, also solved with a cancelaura.
@DownhillDougie
@DownhillDougie Год назад
That would look silly unless they added a new animation for it which I doubt they’d do just for a tier set. Not to mention it straight up changes the skill to be another fire and forget like blessed hammer. The easiest change is what dorki recommended. For the next 12s your consecrates are empowered. And they’ll just need to tune the numbers to account for it being refreshed at 1s left.
@jeromevent4548
@jeromevent4548 Год назад
Literally just bring back glyph of the consecrator
@Leeches-
@Leeches- Год назад
Even easier. Just make it a holy yellow/blue/white fire version of immolation aura.
@revvs4791
@revvs4791 Год назад
Love the content dorki! I main Blood DK, hoping set gets a bit better
@xkyleteex
@xkyleteex Год назад
Not me pulling this video up to hear your thoughts on brew and it not be referenced (despite no changes lol)
@brandonmease1303
@brandonmease1303 Год назад
I really hope they accept that even if the big consecrate is good defensively, having to baby sit is not fun and is only going to make you rage. Make it normal size, but follow you, and then at least I only have to make sure I don't overwrite it. You still have to plan when to use it for maximum effectiveness, but you're punished a little less.
@erickivansolerortiz334
@erickivansolerortiz334 Год назад
Do you think that warrior protection has a good future for 10.2?
@syedie7283
@syedie7283 Год назад
Am i only one, who just watch every week "new changes" from Blizzard and be like... What the f.... They literally just fk every class in the ass for no reason. They gave us the worst possible dungeons pool, we brings healer shortage from last season, bcs healers compaire to Shadowlands are like healing bots - its not fun. Let classes, just be OP, make them fun to play. I mean i will push KSH(For me its all +20, than chill) at first 3-4 weeks anyway, so i dont really care about meta, bcs meta is mostly define by what classes are broken on last boss of the raid.
@jetebalaa7706
@jetebalaa7706 Год назад
I feel that Blizzard is trying to force us to play galactic guardian builds this season.
@Koella94
@Koella94 Год назад
except galactic guardian is ruined because they don't let it proc from itself anymore, and the passive moonfires don't work with Twin Moons
@thedr8993
@thedr8993 Год назад
Wait lol dorki skipped over the talent removed, First of the Illidari, that reduces meta by 1 min so it's back to 3min, not 2 min. Basically they just freed up the talent point and made it baseline
@jeffreypenkoff6178
@jeffreypenkoff6178 Год назад
First of the Illidari wasn't taken over Demonic
@icswack6015
@icswack6015 Год назад
Don’t troll pliz
@edwardhatfield5360
@edwardhatfield5360 Год назад
Definatly worried about Prot Pally empowered consecration being overwritten or just needing to move out of it to live, but I think a good player can make it work for M+.
@Loonfabio
@Loonfabio Год назад
Target capping rage generation, fucking unreal man. Only 1 week of PTR so hopefully it doesnt stay that way... /copium
@solemvow6281
@solemvow6281 Год назад
Well. Goodbye bear they killed it after 1 season. On another note. What tank would you say its the best for s3?
@berribubble
@berribubble Год назад
Changes coming fast and furious. Def TBD. Prob check back 2 wks before patch drops when Blizzard upends everything XD
@casperjuel6069
@casperjuel6069 Год назад
Hey @Dorki - How you feeling about Brewmonks? Are they still going to be decent?
@TheOlddr
@TheOlddr Год назад
rip for war's rally 😭
@ziaxmaster81
@ziaxmaster81 Год назад
Just rework the freaking consecration to be able to move with you while you're walking.
@Trentbail23
@Trentbail23 Год назад
After seeing what they are doing to bear I already rolled a vengeance dh. But in the event I don’t like it I’ll just go change my frost dk into blood.
@James_Johnson79
@James_Johnson79 Год назад
Warrior set originally just showed how little of our bleed damage would actually pandemic.
@jp3611
@jp3611 Год назад
What is UFR? I'm guessing Ursoc's Fury?
@Koella94
@Koella94 Год назад
yes, the SL legendary with the same effect was called Ursoc's Fury Remembered, that's why it's still referred to in the bear community as UFR
@murasaking3031
@murasaking3031 Год назад
when this patch comes out?
@godsfaithinhumanity
@godsfaithinhumanity Год назад
keep the videos coming!
@Olafr_Warrior
@Olafr_Warrior Год назад
For warrior, I don't know if it will be played like this, but won't the optimal way to play during thunderous roar be to hold off on shield slam as long as possible since consuming that bleed at 40% is a large damage loss since it cannot be reapplied.
@eleesium8407
@eleesium8407 Год назад
I don't get what you're saying. Not pressing shield slam would lose soooo much dps. The goal is to use the 40%, that means the bleed ticks faster (allowing for more dps). if it has 100k damage, it'll do 40k instantly and all it has left to do is 60k. Meaning the bleed is shorter and you did more damage in a shorter time. You don't lose damage (that just doesn't make sense). It's not the fact it'll consume the bleed and do x amount less after consuming x amount. It just consumes 40% of the duration's worth. It's like skullsplitter on how it consumed 100% to do 100% of the total damage in 1 click worth. It'll do 40% of the total damage in 1 click making it a shorter duration but in a long term, you're doing more technical damage cause you're causing them to bleed faster.
@mikkelenl
@mikkelenl Год назад
Problem is that right now it consumes the entire duration thunderous roar for only 40% of the damage@@eleesium8407
@jagosvujovic2086
@jagosvujovic2086 Год назад
how would it be a damage loss? youre dealing the same amount of damage except youre just doing it faster? the tier set in the first place isnt actually THAT big of a dps increase, all it does is it makes your bleeds expire faster (which is almost always a dps increase but not as big as you might think)
@mikkelenl
@mikkelenl Год назад
Again, you're not dealing the same amount of damage. The remaining 60% of Thunderous Roar, at least as of right now on the ptr, is just removed when the bleed is consumed@@jagosvujovic2086
@444feb
@444feb Год назад
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@danielstrole6751
@danielstrole6751 Год назад
hi
@XxAmageddonxX
@XxAmageddonxX Год назад
1st?
@adonayjire
@adonayjire Год назад
What tank do you recommend for new players in 10.2?
@candulimataoo2852
@candulimataoo2852 Год назад
Bear and Demon Hunter I think are the easier tanks to pick up and understand for a new player.
@kind2rethink
@kind2rethink Год назад
​@@candulimataoo2852true bear is the easiest to get started in general.. for me it was bdk😅
@candulimataoo2852
@candulimataoo2852 Год назад
@@kind2rethink I love BDK and it was my first tank back in the days but BDK as it is right now is the most complicated tank
@Koella94
@Koella94 Год назад
definitely not VDH in it's current iteration, it's the most complex tank to survive on. so unless you really enjoy the fantasy of it, pick something else. :P the best beginner tanks are Bear, Warrior and Paladin. Brewmaster, BDK and VDH all have unique styles that are not completely intuitive, so only pick those if you really like the class and are up for the challenge.
@guillaumelabonte2702
@guillaumelabonte2702 Год назад
Brew hello?
@phugindomas
@phugindomas Год назад
Don't think they touched brew with this one yet
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 Год назад
I honestly wish they were more careful with releasing bad and outdated information to the public. I took a break from the game to play a lot of Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous and I have my eye on coming back but when I see these wildly swinging nerf-buff-nerf cycles, them absolutely gutting some specs and just the haphazard, blindfolded swings at the Pinata they think must be full of balance, its hard to get excited. They really should have a group of guys(English commonly uses a masculine neutral, before anyone complains) who do nothing else but design mechanics and balance them, months in advance even. Its the one part of the game you know you will need no matter what happens, so the creation and management of those assets should be something they have locked down. I dont want to tell them how to make the sausage, but saying "the farmer has to start raising a pig a few months ahead of time first" doesnt seem like overstepping boundaries or anything.
@brianmarini4841
@brianmarini4841 Год назад
...have tier sets just become the new borrowed powers?
@Koella94
@Koella94 Год назад
tier sets have by definition always been borrowed powers
@edwardhatfield5360
@edwardhatfield5360 Год назад
Keep in mind tuning and talent changes will continue before and after 10.2 release. Theres never a sure way to know what will be tuned most favorably in a few weeks from now. Just play what you prefer the playstyle or theme of and maybe alt what you feel is flavor of the month or week. If flavor of the month ends up being a whole patch again, your alt might start feeling like your main.
@mangamk7294
@mangamk7294 Год назад
That’s just great they nerfed guardian druids to the ground…
@kimaguretv1103
@kimaguretv1103 Год назад
Do you think the DH rework will happen before 10.2?
@Zerius3
@Zerius3 Год назад
No the changes are for 10.2 on the ptr
@yutyut1020
@yutyut1020 Год назад
I got on my bear last night after not playing for like 7 months and my health in dungeons never fell bellow 80% and I was doing the top dmg is big pulls. Bear seems op af
@Koella94
@Koella94 Год назад
yeah they definitely need a nerf. but this seems way overboard. the reason why bear is that tanky is because we have so much rage and can stack up Ironfurs while Raze-ing at the same time for Ursoc's Fury shield. a 5 target cap for a tank, really? it should really be 8 targets. and even then, we would still need baseline buffs to rage gen to make up for it. Mangle and Thrash need to generate more rage, especially now that rage gen isn't helped by Tiersets anymore. and imo they should really introduce a small rage gain (probably 5) for pressing Swipe, because that button feels way too bad in its current iteration: deals little damage, generates no rage. it could at least generate rage. they're not just nerfing bear with this, they're destroying bear. and leaving no options open for them as Galactic Guardian was also gutted with the most recent change to it.
@gruntymunky4082
@gruntymunky4082 Год назад
They are going to ruin prot warriors
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