I'm not an Apple person. I grew up with Linux, Unix, DOS, etc. and now Windows and Android. I have a Roku TV. I will never try any Apple products, esp Apple TV, again. One example, I spent hours and hours trying to find take a show I don't want on my Watch List or whatever Apple calls that. Ditto, hours and hours how to cancel my account (the Apple Support 'tips' was useless, google couldn't even find a ABC way to run away and stop paying. Yes, I've enjoyed several shows but it is so hard to find where I was (which show, episode, where I was in the episode, etc.) TOTALLY spaghetti code for the non-Apple devices. It seems to be years and years old to me.