The way I’ve always seen Gordon knowing is similar to how it’s handled in the Animated Series with him and Barbara. He subconsciously always knows. But because of how helpful Batman is in his mission to clean up Gotham, he never gets a confirmation. Since Batman is a vigilante, which is technically illegal, if he was ever taken in and subjected to a court hearing, Gordon would be brought in as a key witness and be forced to testify, due to how much work they do together. But, because he never has any direct confirmation that Bruce is Batman, he can always feign ignorance and not be caught out for lying under oath. When Jason says “Bruce” out loud for everyone to hear, that veil of ignorance drops. He now has direct confirmation that his suspicions are correct, so drops the act and just talks to Batman as Bruce the one time he’s able to. It’s an aspect of Gordon I always like seeing, because it shows that even though he’s the one clean man in Gotham, he’s still willing to bend the rules in his favor. And more importantly shows that he’s not an idiot, and working with a guy for over a decade will eventually lead to figuring out who’s under the mask.
The way I’ve always seen Gordon knowing is similar to how it’s handled in the Animated Series with him and Barbara. He subconsciously always knows. But because of how helpful Batman is in his mission to clean up Gotham, he never gets a confirmation. Since Batman is a vigilante, which is technically illegal, if he was ever taken in and subjected to a court hearing, Gordon would be brought in as a key witness and be forced to testify, due to how much work they do together. But, because he never has any direct confirmation that Bruce is Batman, he can always feign ignorance and not be caught out for lying under oath. When Jason says “Bruce” out loud for everyone to hear, that veil of ignorance drops. He now has direct confirmation that his suspicions are correct, so drops the act and just talks to Batman as Bruce the one time he’s able to. It’s an aspect of Gordon I always like seeing, because it shows that even though he’s the one clean man in Gotham, he’s still willing to bend the rules in his favor. And more importantly shows that he’s not an idiot, and working with a guy for over a decade will eventually lead to figuring out who’s under the mask.
Gordon always knowing Batman's identity is something I've always kind of headcanoned since I'm pretty sure in the comics, he knew that Barbara was Batgirl, but never brought it up because she's stubborn like her old man and she was making a difference. Likewise, he never brings up the fact that he would figure out the rest of the identities of the Bat-Family because he respects them too much.
Did you know in the story mission of Arkham Knight that has you interrogating Penguin with thugs holding you down but Nightwing comes in to save you, if Nightwing has a baseball bat in his hand, then you finish the fight while Nightwing still holding the bat, he will still have the bat in the cutscene following the fight, after the cutscene is over, the bat will be flying mid-air where Nightwing was standing but Nightwing won't have the bat in his hand anymore.
Ironically the Fnaf theory becomes a lot more plausible if you ignore the evidence. The states of Hurricane (where Fnaf takes place) and Gotham are so separated from each other that both lores would easily coexist without affecting one another.
4:29 Matter of family takes place at most 17 months before asylum because in knight geniuses comics it says something like Jason was held captive by the joker for just under 2 years and it took around 6 months to train robin
The Grundy / Pinkney theory is interesting. There’s some issues trying to fit it into canon (especially considering the connection between Grundy and Ra’s who claims to have been alive for 600 years thanks to discovering Lazarus through Grundy, but if you squint enough, I think the theory is definitely plausible if you ignore the character bios
I've never taken the bios to the forefront of canon anyway, remember how busted the Asylum biographies were? really well written but they didn't even fit in it's own universe
Yea, I don’t really think how he brought the whole both sharing the same first name can hold any weight to it, cause a lot of people have the same name
Someone has to talk about the possible relationship between Black Mask and Dr. Young, it can't be coincidence that they both have apartments in lazy towers basically next to each other and Dr. Young had Roman's black mask on her office.
@@GothamPaladin Omg I didn't believe you would answer haha. Well so basically what I was thinking is that there's no romantic thing between the two, I don't believe Roman cared that much for a lover, neither does Young. But that's why I think they may be relatives, not like sibilings, but maybe close cousins, so Black Mask can maybe protect her by having apartaments so close without people suspecting that much and Dr. Young could have his mask to remember someone she cares about. Or it's really all a coincidence and I'm just rambling here.
@@lucianomunoz04 I think it's a possibility Dr Young might have worked with Black Mask first to develop Titan and the drugs we destroy in Arkham Origins that are in canisters similar to Titan in the two previous games might have tied to that
I think Jim didn’t know Bruce was Batman, at least not before Arkham City. After all, if you listen to the police radio right at the beginning of Arkham city, you can actually hear Jim comment that Bruce is probably going to use his unlawful arrest to sue the police force and get himself a vacation. Maybe Jim is trying to protect Bruce’s identity by pretending that he is a one dimensional spoiled, rich kid, but that doesn’t seem like the kind of thing he would say if he knew Bruce was Batman at that time I definitely think when Jason called Batman “Bruce“ Jim, being a smart detective, put two and two together. But I also think when he and Jim became allies, he stopped caring who Batman was.
I thought i was tripping when i heard Gordon call Batman "Bruce" after fighting Jason. Honestly it is reasonable that he heard Jason calling Bruce's name and deduced it to "Guy named Bruce, clearly rich to afford all that tech, reacted positively to talking about helping the Wayne's son the after the parents deaths, holy shit Batman is Bruce Wayne".
Jason being at Arkham Asylum, & on weekends working community service at the FNAF pizza parlor is my head canon now 🎉 And the other things related to that you said 😅
7:35 This one is basically confirmed and canon, he’s clearly insane and suicidal (because despite his happy persona, he knows he’s irreparably damaged)
The whole theory of fnaf and the arkham series taking place in the same universe is very random as hell. But then again you could say that about most multiverse theories
love the idea that Gordon had zero clue who Batman was and, after hearing Jason say it, just thought “well. I mean his name is Bruce, I guess. do I- do I keep calling him Batman? or are we on a first name basis type thing”
I think Jack had those exact same patches form tnba hat prevents him from turning into the creeper, maybe the creeper did something that even Batman couldn’t handle somewhere after Arkham city that crossed the line and that’s why we never see him in knight.
Batman has said throughout the comics that Jim could figure out his identity in a heartbeat if he wanted to because his detective skills are top of the line, but Jim doesn't because that would mean he would have to take Bruce in and Jim needs Batman so obviously he would never try to. Plus I imagine it's his way of respecting Batman's privacy considering how much he does for the city.
Gordon knows who Batman is. Jameson knows who Spider-Man is. Perry White knows who Superman is. These are detective characters, smart people who seek truths for a living. They respect their friends too much to out them, and love them too much to stop them.
I think that Gordon Had his suspicions about Batman's Identity since Origins, But only put the pieces together during Knight. And his suspicions were confirmed during The Jason Todd fight
It would make more sense Gordan found out after the battle vs Jason cus I’m pretty sure people knew he became Bruce Wayne’s adopted son as well as Dick and Tim, so with that info and the fact they both said each others names in front of Gordan he could’ve pieced it together
Do people forget that Arkham Origins takes place in 2013 and most of the FNAF games take place in the 1980s to early 2000s? Because that theory feels unplanned like my birth.
also, another thing about jack being the creeper, in the comics when jack turns into the creeper, he has some regenerative abilities, and in arkham city, at the start of the gane we obviusly see him get hit and see some bruises iver his face, but when you save him from deadshot, those bruises aren't there, and it's not like a lot of time has passed, at most it's been like 5 hours since the first time we see him, it's impossible for someone to "regenerate" that quickly
To add onto that Bruce's third personality it could be Zur-en-arrh since he does have his own skin in Arkham Knight and that same version appeared in recent Batman comics
Personally I think Jim found out after origins but revealed that to Batman at some point and they both know that he knows. Jim just never acknowledges it because he knows how important Bruce’s secret is but yeah i think Batman and Jim are closer than we think in this universe
There’s potential proof that Jack is the Creeper. If you save him from the inmates and then visit him in the church, you can see he’s healed. He had scars and bruises but in the church he all clean
I always assumed that Batman told Gordon after Origins. After all, Gordon is the one cop who can be trusted. Every other time the two talk they can't bw more personal. There's other people who could overhear. Being alone in the elevator allows Gordon to say Bruce's name without consequences.
I hope theres a future game set not too long after orgins w Dick Grayson Robin, and they fight the Court of Owls. They can even feature characters like Creeper and give proper context to him and his mentioning in AC
I think Gordon stopped investigating who Batman is after Bats became his friend. There is a comic book related to Batman Who Laughs, where Batman is initially evil, killing his enemies with guns. In this comic, Gordon hunted a Grim knight and eventually figured out that Bruce was Batman. And in the whole DC universe, Gordon was on the right track from the very beginning. I know that these are completely different universes, but still Gordon is the same, right? In addition, I believe that the commissioner does not know anything about the identity of Batman, so that he would not have to lie to people and to ensure trust with him. ( sorry for my English)
To be fair I always was annoyed by the inclusion of a fear gas-like compound to torture kids in FNAF cause it reminded me too much of Scarecrow. So maybe there is a connection there lmao. But Arkham games started way before FNAF, so thanks for poking fun at that last theory. 😄❤
The way I’ve seen joker being pissed about not dying in origins was less because he truly wanted to die, but because it didn’t make any sense to him. After he says “Why’d you do that?” He immediately points out that he’s the one who’s been trying to kill Batman, and after this he shoots the two henchmen beside him telling Batman that because they were bad people they deserved to die, before pointing the gun at himself. When Harvey questions Joker about why Batman would save him, Joker replies with “I was wondering the same thing myself”. Joker knows he deserved to fall to his death, he’s killed a multitude of people, he’s blown up a building, he’s caused a full scale breakout of a prison releasing a bunch of dangerous criminals on the street, and let loose 8 of the worlds most dangerous assassins on a city to kill one man, and that same man, who should be watching with satisfaction as he falls to his demise, decides to save him. The Joker can’t even reason that Batman couldn’t kill him as Bane was the one to launch him from the rooftop, So Jokers death wouldn’t even be Batmans fault. Joker pointing the gun at himself could also be read as him testing Batman, as earlier he used up 4 bullets when threatening electrocutioner, and used the other 2 on the henchmen, this means he’s essentially pointing an empty gun at himself, so Joker knows he’s not going to die, but Batman still stops him from killing himself. Jokers essentially trying to rationalise why the hell a vigilante who he has tormented for a whole night, a vigilante who’s known to be brutal against criminals, would risk his life to save him.
you forgot that ivy called dr young "evil woman" and about court of owls and arkham city well ra's gave a lot of resourses to strange and they did everything to make sharp mayor of gotham so i don't think court would do something cause behind arkham city was a whole league of assassins
The Demon's blood Bruce drank in Arkham city that Was gave to him definitely (helped a bit more in a sense I'd suppose) made him the way he is in Arkham Knight is a Neat theory to look at lol. Like the Multi-Fear takedowns & such plus the new bat suit helps with that.
You could also say that Bruce not really being surprised that Jim called him Bruce could be because they were both in the know, that Jim knew he was Bruce for a while and Bruce knew that Jim knew and they entrusted each other to never reveal either Batman's real identity.
I think Gordon did discover Bruce's identify in Arkham Knight, hearing Jason call him Bruce gives him a name and then he could logically draw the connection to Bruce Wayne, by thinking of how much money is needed to be batman
"Ra's Al Ghul could be behind the revival of Fazbear Entertainment" and "William Afton could have helped fund the Arkham Knight militia" are sentences I never thought that I would hear in my life, but here we are.
I’ve had a question for a while that I’ve been confused about. How the hell did Jason survive? He hardly ate, drank, or slept. He was constantly beaten and when he did eat, it was stuff like rats and sewer water. If the beatings don’t kill him, then the diseases should
I wouldn't call this a "theory" exactly, but it is just what I thought was going to happen when I got to the Ace Chemicals mission, because of the rumour going around that Batman dies (the plaque on the statue that came with an edition of the game) and when the game starts Gordon even says Batman dies: When you are at the part where Alfred is pleading with Batman to leave Ace Chemicals, while Batman seems to be sacrificing himself to lower the blast radius of Crane's bomb, when Joker does the "Miss Me?" and shoots Batman, I assumed that is the way Batman "died" So when it does the "3 days earlier" thing, we are playing from the ACTUAL start of the game, and that we end up in Ace Chemicals, as the final mission, and we do that mission, and then Batman ends up actually sacrificing himself in Ace Chemicals.
I should've known william afton helped fund the militia. In fact william afton, the purple guy, was probably the joker all along, because they both where purple and are sometimes disguised as security.
I love Batman: Arkham theories especially after all the years has passed I loved all these even though some can be hit or miss especially when it’s jus fun to think about the interesting things that could’ve happen during the events of all 4 games despite us not knowing or learning the truth about how accurate these theories truly are only for some but I love this I hope this becomes its own series like the Disturbing Details series. FNAF and ARKHAM share a universe would be fkin awesome crossover!
When Bruce was saving Jim, he got stopped by Jason. Bruce asked “who are you” and Jason replied with “you still have no idea. Do you BRUCE?” IN FRONT OF JIM!! Surely Jason Todd’s adoption by Bruce Wayne was public to everyone. Jim could’ve put two and two together right then and there. Right?
Imagine if Hugo Strange got his hands of Bruce's dna and creates a clone of Bruce Wayne and he becomes the Arkham Knight. Also, that clone would tie in to the Protocol 11 thingie.
I ha e a theory about creeper in arkham city, its been confirmed for other villains in arkham city (ex. Killer Moth, Black Mask etc was comfirmed to be in arkham city) and when jack was in there as the creeper while batman was occupied
Cyrus Pinkney might actually appear in *Arkham Shadow*. Ryan Payton shared a picture in the Arkham Batman Discord that looks like a young Cyrus Pinkney.
Personally, I believe that gordon figured out batman's identity right there and then because although jason only said his first name, it was jason that said this. As in jason, the son of bruce wayne, who else could it be? I liked this more as it compliments gordon's detective skills. I do also believe that gordon knew subconciously but this is what confirms bat's identity.
I hope that Arkham Shadow sheds some light on whether or not Gordon always knew Batman's identity as my headcannon was always that after Arkham Origins, Gordon would have been able to deduce that Batman was Bruce Wayne and it would make sense for Arkham Shadow to allude something like that
Hi paladin your my favourite theory: after protocol 10 when the command centre of Tyger says all air units fall in cease attack and return to base immediately i i have theory there base is Arkham island because in a Arkham city story it says Tyger bought Arkham island as base of operations to watch Arkham city and patrol it
We urgently need fan fiction in the video format "Can animatronics from FNAF survive Arkham Batman?" without underestimating the strength of the characters... But imagine Batman's Arkham without understating it and with the whole arsenal... FNAF universe needs to resort to ALL its animatronics in order to have at least a transparent chance...
