10 big changes from N3 to N4 

I was exactly the same. If N4 had been as nested as N3 I probably would have bailed 😂 this is so much better for new players.

So glad it was helpful thank you for watching!!

YUP! Making a great game even better!

Not... easier...

Thanks Rob! Really appreciate the feedback and positive comments 😃

Thank you! First time painting terrain 😉. Yeah I’m a huge fan of N4, better than N3 in my limited opinion!

Much easier than the change facing thingy in N3. I like new dodge.

Totally! Makes more sense to try to go for cover _before_ the enemy rounds a corner (unless they have Stealth). Or even better, position yourself directly in LoF so that the enemy can't pie slice you.

That’s always the dream but it’s amazing how often facing isn’t done right and the easy kills are given away.

The cover is so good!

It’s going to be great to see more big units on the table! I can’t wait for the Zeta to arrive 🤤

Thank you very much!

Thank you! Hopefully it helps people out 😁

I’ve played against JSA and they are definitely formidable. Yeah there are a few cases where the dodge bonuses mean you’ll move farther using a dodge then a second skill! BUT, you have to roll for a dodge so there’s a chance of it not happening (however unlikely).

I find N4 easier because it’s all on the profile. I’ll often print a list for quick reference during the game. O12 are a lot simpler than Shas so that’s helping! Thanks for the support NeoCal!!

Print out the sheet. It's all listed there by title. Practice by reading each entry on your own time.

Nice!! I do love a judge Dredd scheme. Have you got images of it on Instagram?

@@the_infinitygamer i think i have an instagram.......ill see what i can do ;)

I think that worked My 012 are blue and gold but for the fluff model and rules...he had to be....THE LAW !

Darn it. It doesn’t seem to be showing. Will check on the computer as well.

Ive added you on insta if that helps pmd you aswell 🤣🤣🤣 Im no good with anything that isnt Facebook 🤣

To be fair I had martial arts and hacking under a category of ‘simplified tables’ but wasn’t sure if hacking was as big a change from N3 to N4 as MA.

Hacking is considerably stronger in N4 and the way programs are allocated is much simpler.

And...with more HI and TAGs it’s able to shutdown big attacks using low cost units.

Not to mention you can spotlight non-hackable units in ARO (or via coordinated hack) then blast them with missiles in the active turn.

YES! And with that not needing LOS anything with Guided becomes even more valuable.

Yep, I just found the thread below.

😂😂😂 I think I’m going to be getting stick for that for a while.

I had far too many attacking units removed thanks to a lucky defensive crit 😤. An extra armour save still means it’s possible though...

@@the_infinitygamer Not to mention models may start earning nicknames for pulling off feats. A "Deadeye" sniper (everything it ARO's just DIES), "Snoopy" (always gets shot down by the Red Baron), or whatnot. I like that there's an actual chance for the person who takes a crit. I still have fond memories of Veteran Sergeant "Bob" who held off a GREATER DAEMON OF KHORNE... In a tournament... For nine rounds of combat. Plus another three because we wanted to see who'd actually win between those two. Both down to their last wound, neither would die. We agreed "Bob" went "enough with this pointless fighting, I'll buy the first round?"

Hahaha to be fair I had an HVT in unmasking so very similar. It either dodged everything that came it’s way or saved. I honesty think at one point it made all 4 15+ armour saves. It was a true hero. Shame my units couldn’t match its prowess!

Love everything you’ve said.

@@the_infinitygamer but still on average you'll see lot more HI and TAGs from medium level players. I just think that those who aim for the top will optimize the rosters in such way that they won't be focused on TAGs that much

I agree. Taking a TAG or two will be fun but players will start to take more anti HI stuff. Now that TAGs snd HI get cover beating them in a straight shootout is harder than before. Got to use other tools from the toolbox and hacking is a great one.

Camo sucks in general 😂 anything with Discover +3 helps (bluecoats) but yeah that’s a good idea for a video.

What's the hard part?

Killing it without wasting too many orders

@@the_infinitygamer Do you need to kill it?

That’s a very good point...you can incapacitate it in other ways.

Another confession - the previous two audio takes for this video mentioned hacking 😭

@@the_infinitygamer lol There's always something! If you had hit on everything what would we all have had to say? :-P

😂😂 so true! I feel like the removal of extreme impetuous and the new command token option to put something into suppression should have made the cut too.

By getting into one you’re kind of getting into both 😃. The rules for both are free so it’s just the models you need really and all Code One models can be used in N4 (but not the other way around). It depends entirely on whether you want to learn the game using a simplified system or jump straight into the full game.

You’re welcome!

Covering a third of a TAGs silhouette would have been tricky.

@@the_infinitygamer Especially an S8.

I’ve only used the Lawkeeper and it’s impetuous so gets no cover (but maybe has mimetism?) and it has an 8” - 6” move. They’re really cool!

This is true! You just get plonked in your deployment zone touching an edge.

If you can’t beat them join them - I’m excited for my Zeta to get cover behind a planter box too 😜

@@the_infinitygamer I know my Yu Jing are definitely looking forward to that Blue Wolf... And my Hassassin Bahram are looking forward to the new, uh... Stuff I keep forgetting the spelling of. So many options, so many choices, although for HaqqIslam I suspect I'm steadily moving more and more towards HB as a sectorial... And maybe Ramah Task Force too, since, well... Wait a second, the RTF exclusive Maghariba Guard profiles are available in vanilla Haqq as well now. Uh oh. Indecision central!

Options are supposed to be a good thing but the more they give us the harder it is to choose 😭

@@the_infinitygamer Quite true. I suspect vanilla will be the main one I go for, with some dabbling into HB to see if I like how it is. Yu Jing will remain my Code One force :)

Vanilla for O12 looks mighty tempting and I didn’t see a lot of Shas players at the tournament. Apart from PanO lots of people were vanilla.

Was that because they had impetuous it did they have REM?

@@the_infinitygamer It was, and is, because the rule for Bikes as equipment said so. ;) So I guess it wasn't as big a penalty for them to be impetuous.

Extreme impetuous almost made the list as well as the change to impetuous. I included hacking in a previous edit but not this one (which I’m now seriously regretting 😂) the turn one suppression is a good suggestion. Falling got mentioned and I didn’t know combat jump had 5 levels. Going to have to look that up and remind myself of that.

@@the_infinitygamer Sorry for listing ones you covered. I hate Mondays

I feel your pain 😂 definitely keen to learn more about the AD levels though.

That’s a huge shame. It is a fun game but like any it relies a bit on having the right gaming group locally. Having other players to teach you also helps a lot!

@@the_infinitygamer yeah, I had heard some horror stories about the community but decided to push on with an open mind, after hearing some others recently have had bad experiences too, I just feel it's a shame. One person in another gaming group I'm part of got a paid tournament thrown down his throat almost instantly. Sounds like the community is a big draw but also a big issue at the same time. Depends really where you go I suppose, online and offline.

Exactly! That does sound like a terrible situation - a game is just a game ultimately its the people that make it what it is. Really lucky that we have a very great group of people here and few tournaments so I guess that creates a more casual environment. Every country and town will be different. Hopefully you can find a nicer group and give the game another go in the future 😁

@@the_infinitygamer yeah our group is putting it on hiatus atm and working on our main games, we haven't given up on it, just the time doesn't seem right after that. overall everyone loved the experience we had, except fireteams, universally we felt the game would be better without those as that's people starting feeling it was a bit much. everything else, 10/10, so deep and fun.

That’s good to hear! And great that you have other games to enjoy as well. Hopefully COVID isn’t impacting your gaming too much 😃 Yeah I struggle with fireteams a little as well. I know there are negatives to using them but often the benefits seem to outweigh those. I know they’re a big part of the game but I wouldn’t miss them too much 😂

I don’t think you’re allowed more than two in N4. Do you have a page in the rules for us to check out?

@@the_infinitygamer p18 you can have any number of combat groups as long as any one doesn't exceed 10 troopers.

Well I’ll be... Genuinely thought that CB’s video and graphic restricted you to two. I mean, it would be an interesting strategy to run more than two.

@@the_infinitygamer I can't really think of a reason you'd want to, but the option is there.

You’re right! You’ve taught me something new!

Yes but these still have counters. Hacking is more accessible and K1 ammo exists too.