Quite frankly, there should be a separate list for comicbook villains who are 'undone' by their offspring... because that's a theme as old as western civilization.
Hell at this point, the same people who say that also think that those companies are propaganda because *checks notes* Superman, a protector of the world, no longer focuses his catchphrase about America, and instead focuses on the protection of the world.
I would also mention the Joker and Red Hood, since the clown murdering Jason Todd leads the resurrected ex-Robin to assume the Joker's past identity and go on murderous crusade to find him and end him.
Loki. Both in the mainstream comic book continuity and the MCU, the God of Mischief sets up an elaborate scheme to set the heroes, including his brother, against each other, only to instead motivate them to band together to defeat him. Effectively creating The Avengers!
As I recall OG publishing: Wasn't it the Space Phantom whose plotting drew the heroes together? Again - I'm granting my memory may be faulty by one issue and, no, I didn't Google before Commenting. The older I get, I'm getting a little fuzzier sometimes.
Wait! I just recalled that your mention was *correct*! Loki was the first "problem" - Space Phantom followed (banishing himself to the null void when he tried to impersonate Thor, which he could not b/c Thor was a god, therefore *supernatural*).
0:20 That is an actual fenomenon real polise officers have to keep in mind. Cristopher Nolans, Dark knight actually brought that up in a coversation between Batman and Gordon. ”We start carreing semi-automatics, they buy automatics, we start wearing kevlar, they start buying armor piercing rounds.”
Though to be honest militarization of police is the symptom of deeper internal issues, not the cause. At the same time it is definitely not the cure, but actually make things worst. So yeh. To some degree it is true.
The reason police carry rifles now is because of the bank robbery where they wore body armor and their pistols weren't powerful enough to stop them before the mass carnage they caused... Criminals didn't suddenly start carrying M60's and driving around in armored vehicles in response... What kind of message is that? Police shouldn't have body armor and rifles cause bad guys will suddenly have better weapons and ammo? No.
Flash and Reverse Flash are connected , if Flash prevented that Eobard Thawne became Reverse Flash ...there were no Flash ?? Loki is the villain responsable for creating the Avengers
I love the choice for number one cuz I grew up literally watching that episode every day , I remember as a kid for my birthday my mom got me a Batman beyond cake with the batmobile decorating on top the futuristic batmobile I mean.
You mentioned Wonder Man but not that he is also on the list, When Simon Williams learned that his brother the Grim Reaper was using their company's tech for evil. He confronted him. His brother threw Simon into the energy field the machines were making to kill him. Instead they turned him into ionic energy and eventually Wonder Man.
@@bizzarono1 pretty sure Simon Williams became Wonder Man thanks to Baron Zemo (Avengers, 1963, Issue #9). Williams was an inventor, like Stark, but Stark ends up putting him out of business. Desperate, he volunteered to be a guinea pig for Zemo’s experiments. Zemo gave him several treatments with IIRC, “Vita Rays”, which gave him his powers. But he needs daily medication, or he will die. He joins the Avengers, and intends to betray them to Zemo, but sees how noble they are, and turns on him. In doing so, he no longer gets the daily medication he needs, and “dies” as a result. Williams eventually returns, as his “death” was actually just his body needing time to transform into the ionic energy that he eventually becomes. Wonder Man was always one of my favourite characters. He ends up forming a firm friendship with Hank McCoy (Beast), and becomes a movie star, saving movie companies a fortune in special effects, as his indestructible body negates the need for them. He also becomes a pacifist, but does help out in times of great need, whether it be on the sidelines, helping out in disasters, or tackling minions and villains that are not “alive”, such as robots. Bonus fact: Unless this is retconned, Simon Williams is played by Nathan Fillion in the MCU (poster only, to date). You can see Fillion on a movie poster in one of the MCU movies (or possibly a Tom Holland Spider-Man movie) with the text “starring Simon Williams” emblazoned on it. Honestly, I think this is brilliant casting, and they should bring him onboard in a future Avengers movie (or perhaps a “Vision” movie?).
the brighter the light the greater the shadow cast by it however the shadow cannot exist without out the light. like all dynamically opposed forces/concepts/groups Heroes and Villains can only exist together if one side were to vanish the other would eventually follow.
For a more Eastern example, how about Freeza? If he hadn't attempted genocide on the Saiyan Race, perhaps Goku wouldn't have eventually defeated him. And when he attempted to destroy the Earth, he was killed by Trunks; the son of Vegeta, who Freeza had kept under his thumb for decades.
How about the Buffy The Vampire Slayer comic series? Darla the vampire sires Angelus, who eventually stakes her in the heart as the vampire-with-a-soul Angel. Darla also stabs herself after being resurrected as result of Angel making her pregnant.
Interesting that you went along with the classic origin for Prof. X and not the later story from Cain's viewpoint which suggested Charles had distorted his stepfather in his recollection.
Yes, though in actual lore it is WAY more complicated aka half of Primes are evil... you know... Soundwave (Logos/Quintus Prime), Shockwave (Onyx Prime) and Starscream (Liege Maximo) are actually Primes. It also include Sideways aka Amalgamous Prime and Megatron is really good actor though 👍 Though Predaking/Megatron II (Megatronus/Fallen) he is not. PS: Optimus Prime is himself and Optimus Primal is Prima/Oracle.
Dunno if this counts because it’s manga and not technically a comic book series in the traditional sense but I would argue that Frieza created 2 of his own worst enemies, both Goku and Vegeta. Goku would’ve never learned the martial arts that he learned on Earth and by extension the afterlife if Frieza never attacked Planet Vegeta causing Goku’s father to send him away all Kal-El style. Frieza also didn’t do himself any favors by treating Vegeta and the rest of the surviving Saiyans like slaves to help his empire grow.
Abraham Cornelius experimenting on wolverine led to him becoming the x-man that finally shut down the weapon x and all the different weapon plus programs.
Marvel's the Grim Reaper revitalizing his brother Simon to become Wonder Man. After briefly cooperating with his brother (b/c, y'know, family) Simon came to his his own thinking and became a hero and member of numerous Avenger (et al) iteration.
They don’t want to touch the comic before the show drops it’s other seasons, and even then SPOILERS Omni-Man and Invincible were enemies for literally that one time
While not comics one name pops up in my head about this catagory ... Frieza ! Cause his greatest defeat in Goku and his death in " raising" Vegeta who had a son Trunks that killed him and his father Cooler.
He also brought Goku and Vegeta to want revenge after destroying their planet and killing their people. In the end, no matter how you interpret it, Frieza did cause his own eventual downfall due to his actions against the saiyans.
Yes ,the Lt demon by the name Malebolgia ,,his worst enemy he created was Spawn and to a lesser extent Clown who is a servant but has his eyes on the big chair , causing Malebolgia's destruction , would open that position for him ,,,
Black Adam and Shazm and Mr Fantastic and Doctor Victor Von Doom and Adam Warlock and Thaanos and Monitor and Anti Monitor and Kang and Kang? These are others but there's more?
I'd say Reverse Flash belongs on this list. Maybe not in creating The Flash's powers, but his tendency for time travel vengeance in reverse Not only is partially responsible for Barry Allen's morals, but for creating the antagonism against him in the first place
It maybe in the cartoon and not necessarily in the comics, but megatron created optimus prime in transformers. In the episode ‘war dawn’ it shows just before the war megatron befriends a bot called orion pax, who one day shows megatron around the dock he works at. When megatron sees its full of energon that he wants he soots orion and attacks the dock. Orion is taken to alpha trion who then rebuilds him into optimus prime. When megatron is confronted by him ne asks who he is before optimus replies “your worst nightmare!”.
In the cartoon they explained it as he used to watch his master train since the beginning and he memorized every move and when he mutated he started perfecting those moves
Just the one, practicing what he’d learned as a pet before his owner and his owner’s wife were murdered by a guy who would later go on to dress up like a cheese grater.
Not a comic book character but definitely a superhero, most Masked Riders origins are tied to thier villians. The Showa era were usually granted powers by the villian only to rebel against them. And most of the Heisei Riders have some link between them and the villians (like in Faiz and Kabuto the belts and weapons were made by the villians).
Vision's speech was terrible, because literally none of the villains the Avengers faced came about because they sought to challenge their strength (with the possible exception of Helmut Zemo).
Top 10 creators who've only written one good comic run I already have some examples Scott Lobdell/Age of Apocalypse Dan Slott/She Hulk Chris Yost/Scarlet Spider Jason Aaron/Thor Tom King/Vision Steve Orlando/Midnighter Chuck Austen/Exiles Or alternatively terrible comics written by excellent writers Gray and Palmiotti/Battle for Bludhaven James Robinson/Cry for Justice Geoff Johns/Avengers red skull virus storyline or n52 Justice League Greg Pak/Superman: Truth Fabian Nisceza/Legion Lost Christopher Priest's Deadpool
He has a dragon symbol, he is the dark king, who controls all symbiotes, if you search it up, venom gets this same symbol on his chest when he is forced to take knulls place once he kills him
I hate when the MCU movie franchise changes everything about the comics. I thought it was Jarvis that iron man made in the film. Wish things were left to there original setting
See the MCU didn't tell the Ultron and vision story right. It's great they added them to the MCU but hank pym and iron-man are two different boxes of frogs like
Cobra Commander and Snake eyes. Ya groom the grove stiken navy seal vet to be your next of line to have it backfire on you. Spawn: let’s take someone who swore to hell to advenge some and make him a hell spawn creature The Lone Ranger: his brother gets killed by a gang by someone said person dawns a mask and take out said outlaw The Footand Nobody: Police officer looses his partner and love appently the foot takes him in and tries to teach them their own way. He breaks away from their teaching out and becomes Nobody. The Purple Dragon and Casey Jones: no matter which verison you look at his parents beaten then eventually killed by the purple dragon street gang spawned this vigilante who knows Kung fu Carnage and Toxin: most dangerous payopath symbiotic gives birth to Toxin who is a chatotic good symbiotic who does not kill. The Kingpin and Frank castle: Way to go Kingpin have a mob war in a park and kill some family members of a former CIA agent no matter which verison you have it’s some bag element or mafia etc that made The Punisher Happen. Weapon X and Woverine Yes we’re going to run a project and kidnap someone and turn them into a dangerous weapon… real smart there. Illegal compound and Wade Wilson. That’s right the same dumb people wanted to make another weapon x uses some DNA and makes Deadpool… also said place has another place and makes X 23 and murder baby later on…
The idea Hero’s create villains is STUPID. Many could become rich and powerful on their own withe their Powers and Intelligence. Their greed and decision to be evil is on them.
