Amen to that. As well as the bumpers, shaky grill, axle nuts, arm rest, door handle popping off, interior door handle squeaking, seat plastic breaking. I am a Toyota fan boy and this truck killed my spirits. Lol.
@@americandude3825 the seat plastic is from people just absolutely beating the crap out of it and people just being smart enough to know if they all just band together that Toyota might fix it. I, a 210 lb, man have seat on, drug across, snapped back that seat plastic and nothing happened. I also know a person who is 302 lbs who has done the same thing, and surprise surprise, the plastic is still intact. What's this shaky grill thing, haven't seen anything about that, and mine is definitely solid? I did have a rear door window seal issue on both sides, and the center console squeaks a little, but given its shape makes sense.
Nice presentation. Disappointing quality. They hurried this to market and its not even close to being competitive. Potential to be a nice vehicle but its not there yet.
I wish Toyota would make a special version of the tundra you know how Ford has the Raptor and Dodge has the T-Rex I feel Toyota could use a special version truck maybe with a 2JZ in it LOL
I hate to say it but the Toyota Production System with Kaizen implementation was better implemented in the vehicles built in Japan and from the 80s, 90s.... It seems that Toyota vehicles built in the USA have more NVH issues and in general less meticulous attention to detail. I have had Toyota's from all of those eras and my 2006 Tundra, while the drive train has been bullet proof, the interior fit and finish, and exterior fit and finish, not so perfect. I still remember my dad's 74 Celica ST. The interior was perfectly put together and the materials were in good shape even up into the 90s. Same with my mother's 78 Corolla Lift back. I could go on and on with examples. This comment was specifically spurred from the comment, "in Japan I would have failed this..." When describing the gap inconsistency. Very interesting video!
I don’t need a truck either, but I do appreciate the room for bikes, camping, dogs and paddle boards. However, the fit and finish is a disappointment to me and I’m debating trading my 22 Tundra in for a 22 or 23 GX.
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In the past I worked with fleets of identical vehicles … e.g. Cadillac XTS’, Escalades, Chevy Suburbans, Lexus ES’, MBZ S-Class’ and E-Class’ … on average 10-15 vehicles of each model and brand. Despite the vehicles supposedly should be identical, each and every vehicle were different … driving experience, steering, braking, accelerating, shocks, engine noise, power (or lack of it), rattles, fit and finish, etc. It’s amazing how these vehicles come off the assembly line using identical parts built by the same people and same manufacturing facility manage to manufacture vehicles that are all different … every single one of them. Not even two are 100% identical.
I have a 2019 Limited, beautiful Calvery Blue 5.7, ok gas mileage, and as bad as my mpg's are, these new ones are even more pathetic. I really wanted a new one, but I feel I'd be paying alot more and getting alot less. I'm really dissapointed with the new trucks.
@jim. I have been waiting to update my 2010 Tundra 5.7V8. The main reason is for better fuel economy (currently 13.5), but at this point I am going to wait a few more years or look at a different brand.
You can’t put the Toyota name on the truck and blame suppliers for parts and fit and finish David. You get all the credit or all the blame. When Toyota’s reliability and durability are held out above others’, no one says “those part suppliers they have are great”. I hope Toyota makes it right for the most-annoying issues like rattles and molding issues. Also curious how Canadian TRD Pro and US TRD Pro differ in options and why? Is it regulation or due to geographic differences that are more practical like weather etc.
Regardless Toyota or other brands when you build a brand new or 100% redesign it only makes sense that there will be issues. I have a 2015 Tundra which means they had 7 or 8 years to work the bugs and do minor improvements. One disappointment with the new double cab is it is quite a bit smaller where I have had full size people in my truck backseat no issue head or legroom. I hope the drive train proves reliable over the longterm and retains it's value like the last model. I was parked beside a 2022 platinum Tundra a few weeks ago and it did look pretty sharp in a grayish blue color. The problem with older Tundra's is they last a long time so I may not be in the market for a new truck for awhile.
Dave non of those pros have noise coming from The rear bed area drive over bumps and bumpy roads with the rear window down and have the radio off ….when I got a service loaner 22 tundra sr5 model has the same noises like my 22 tundra trd pro…it’s already been reported to Toyota of North America so eventually will be a recall/bulletin…keep me posted on this issue thanks
I would do a comparison of the US Manufacturers popular models and see what theirs is like. My guess it would be much worse or should be. This definitely isn't good for Toyota. Maybe the Texas bosses need to clamp down on the employees?
David….the inconsistencies in production quality, leads to believe the American management of Toyota USA is more focused on getting the units out of the plant. I hope they return to ‘kaizen principles’ by the 2024 model year. I do not see these issues on the 4Runner and GX460.
Solar Octane looks great. I think all the color choices look really good. I would like the Voodoo Blue to be and option again though. I thought it was one of the better colors. Great video. Fantastic to see someone with your experience show the slight differences, even within vehicles so closely built together. Thanks!
Thanks for the information David. I’m driving a new Gray Metallic Capstone and I will go check the same areas. On the two you have I think the Solar Octane looks good but too flashy for me. I’m still waiting on my second Tundra Capstone but this one will be in Wind Chill Pearl color. With my gray tundra I The same issue with the downshifting being a little rough. I hope the next one will not have this issue.
Hello David. i have a 21 TRD pro on super white and I've been noticing the paint is ready easy to get stain , i got a drip of tree tree resin and it decolorated the paint I've never seen it happen .
You never fail to put out interesting quality videos, David. I do agree with your choice of white and the ability to be able to sell it easier if you need to but I personally like the solar octane for its uniqueness.. Nevertheless as time goes by and the little idiosincraties are eliminated the TRO Pro as well as the other Tundra models with the 3.4 liter should become as bulletproof as the 4 liter Tacoma and be hard to beat. IMO anyway
This is the first year of manufacturing this truck in Texas. Hopefully, moving forward, the quality will improve. However, I have my doubts. Japanese made vehicles seem to have a much higher build quality than American made vehicles. I work as a mechanic for Japanese made powersports vehicles and the products from Japan are always far superior in quality to the stuff we get from the US manufacturer, for the same brand. Not sure if this is the case with all makes, but with Honda and Toyota, it seems to be true.
Personally, I’m all about the Solar Octane! It really “POPS”. Too bad you can’t get the Red interior, IMO. Build quality for $70K truck is not acceptable to me. Toyota really upped the price on the redesign and top quality in assembly and parts used should reflect the TUNDRA being a premium value! I also think MPG rating is not going to be much better than outgoing V-8. Fit quality can be determined by the shift each vehicle was perhaps assembled on. Also, Primary Process Operators training and skill level as well as secondary operator abilities. Again in reference to quality/pricing, it’s shocking that Toyota is allowing vendor quality to be so unacceptable. The trim and moldings and hood parts should NEVER have left the factory. Toyota is going to have to improve their game and go back to suppliers and level-up quality. I would have to question purchasing a vehicle with defects so obvious. If those items are acceptable, then what else has been overlooked/passed as acceptable when it’s NOT Training, workforce, suppliers and following TPS need to be re-evaluated, IMO. I don’t like saying it, but I don’t see the value here….. guess I’ll continue driving my old truck.
Toyota Australia, is looking at the possibility or is going to import this vehicle from the US to Australia and convert them to right hand drive here in Australia, using another company that is already converting other US pickup trucks. Apparently a first for Toyota to have vehicles converted from left to right hand drive by another company let alone in another country.
I have owned many Toyota's before. Currently 2021 Tundra and 2021 Rav4. Both have very poor alignment of panels/door and quality of material's. Very disappointed in Toyota.
Hello David. I have the 2022 TRD Pro in black. Where did you get the bumper step? I have been looking everywhere and cannot find one. I would like that on mine as well like yours. Thank you.
David, I really hope you purchase and provide in depth reviews of the Sequoia TRD Pro. I recently watched a string of Sequoia commercials on the Toyota USA RU-vid channel and all models looked incredible. The white with dark tinted windows really stands out.
I have a 2021 tundra trd pro & an order arriving mid October on a 2022 tundra trd pro with the hybrid motor. I'm torn between keeping the '21 or going through with the purchase of the '22. Any advice?
Thank fot this compilation. Oh Oh that fuel economy DOES NOT reflect the information publish by Toyota the state 18/20 estimated MPG you are showing 14.6 MPG and 11.4 MPG that is terrible and will be a BIG problem if does not imroves that fuel economy is not what they advertize and will be an issue if not fixed. I hope thay take care of that issue for the next year model.
Liltle mistake here and there for truck users, but christ qu'il est beau et mieux technologiquement qu'avant! 👌✌️ Awesome truck, let see how it keep in long term. P.s. Just watched the spec on HD 6.6 gas and small block turbos/eco has nothing to envy about their 400+ "power". 🙊🔥
David, Thank you for all that you do. One thing you may be able to find an answer for I haven't seen reported by anyone else. I haven't read this information anywhere in the owner's manual. Have you discovered the dynamic and static weight limit for the roof on the 2022 Tundra? I am interested in adding a roof rack when my Tundra comes in. The number of people that like this type of accessory and it should be made safely. Thanks for your time.
I'm really confused by the MPG number. That seems to be about half of what it's supposed to be. Thank you, David, for showcasing these issues (and good parts). I hope Toyota watches these types of videos and learns from owners and reviewers.
David I have a white just because was the only one on the lot and I bought it and I did regret making that decision and I must say that I love the red and black interior . I myself wouldn’t settle for a red neither the octane red.
I'm currently on a wait-list for a Solar Octane Tundra. One option i was given was tow mirrors, something i noticed both these trucks don't have. I wonder if that's a USA option only.
When you open the hood and you look in the engine cockpit you notice there’s a lot of room between the front of the engine and the front grill just wondering if there will be an V8 option down the road? I prefer army green with black accent.
What about the rattling of the console? Is it there or have they corrected it? Also I was hearing about an unusual lean that some seem to have in the rear??
Thank you David I appreciate the honesty regarding differences in fit and finish of two trucks built on the same day. Great job please keep it up. I am wondering what you think about the three cylinder GR corolla engine being offered in the 23 GR Corolla Circuit edition? I am wondering about durability. Thank you again Louie.
@@AutomotivePress Good morning, I would like to know if they are keeping the same color for all the trims from 2022 are they changing some of them because that Platinum would look very nice in Lunar Rock
I can't belive my V8 2022 Lexus GX is getting better gas mileage than both of theseTundras. I'm getting 15.1mpg. This whole switching to V6 for better mileage is a scam. They're saving money using V6 and charging the same for the vehicle. It's all about profit and not gas efficiency.
