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Wait, do people generally consider The Orphan a dumb movie? I rather enjoyed it and thought that lead actress was phenomenal in it. If you watch it over again knowing the twist ending, you start to notice that the actress, who really is a child obviously, does these small little "adult" mannerisms every now and then which is brilliant in my opinion, because you realize they gave you hints of it through-out the movie... But that actress absolutely nails the adult mannerisms. Really great acting in my opinion.
I always loved the reveal that Doofy was the killer in Scary Movie just for the Usual Suspects homage. It doesn’t have quite the shock value, but still a lot of fun.
Most of those movie you don't see coming, because they don't build up their twist, when there is one. They think that blaming it all on the movie they rip off, stated by one line of dialogue in the first, make them look oh-so-smarter. Hint : it does not.
I worked at Blockbuster when Wild Things came out on video. I had countless people complain they didn't understand the ending. I asked them if they watched the credits all the way through. They said no. I told them the whole thing is explained in the credits. They had to rent it again. Cue evil laugh.
one of those movies that thinks it's much smarterthanit actually is. by the time you finish watching it you are desensibilized from all the twists and left with an unsatisfying ending.
@@sammcpherson82 Now you see me? As in Now you See Me 2? Now You See Me was one of the stupidest nonsensical movies of all time. There is no way to ruin a movie that is already garbage. I didn't see the sequel, but I can't imagine it was either worse, or could have made the first one worse either.
@@yourrealdad4906 At the end the final "survivor" is on a plane, there is a commotion, people get taken off the plane, Turns out its the plane from the original movie. :D
SAW II has such a good plot twist that the “live” cameras are actually prerecorded one day before, and SAW IV had the most original plot twist that the whole movie’s Saw game was happening at the exact same time as SAW III and the games were related to each other (This means they had to plan out the plot twist two movies in advance!!)
Having not seen the Usual Suspects before, I was genuinely shocked by the ending of Scary Movie. I think that twist alone is what makes it a classic, and why I keep coming back to it years later
Orphan was nowhere near dumb. Vera Farmiga showed a great acting plus the main villain was amazing. Its twist only made it better. Dead Silence and The Boy aren't dumb too. Also, Sleepaway Camp was so silly and the acting was awful but that twist ending made it one of the greatest horrors of the 80's
I disagree with you on SleepAway Camp. Its not a great horror movie at all. Its a crappy horror movie with a great twist ending. The ending doesnt make it a great horror movie it just makes you go Thank God I didnt waste my time watching this for nothing.
I mean, the Saw sequels are not masterpieces but are really fun to watch and in every movie are good plot twists. But I wouldn’t call them “dumb”. Messy? Maybe. But not “dumb”.
The problem is that part of what makes a twist good is that it takes what was seen before and recontextualizes it while still fitting with the story given. Saw does the exact opposite. It gives the twists and basically rewrites everything from before and doesnt even try to make the old stuff work. Dont get me wrong, they are fun but the fact that the twists are so messy is what makes them dumb.
Aaron You’re exactly incorrect. The Saw movies add new information each iteration, which simply deepen the overall storyline, while perfectly fitting in with the previous information. I don’t know how many of the series you’ve seen, but you have a strange takeaway from them.
yeah. also, it explains how she sounds like him: hell, it even showed the scene that explains it where she rips the tongue outof her victims and adds it to her own - now a three foot long tentacle thing - and that gives her the ability. plus, you know, fucking supernatural ventroliquist. it was one of those meh movies that was better than it needed to be, in a way.
Orphan is far from being a 'dumb' movie. Excellently brooding psychological horror, turned into a frenzied fight to survive, superbly paced. It's stark, cold (literally, it's Midwinter, and figuratively), and creepy, in a way that almost makes your skin crawl, and the twist is delightfully startling.
Even as a parody it leans into excessive dumbness though. I don't think you can make that many sex jokes and a gag about cutting pubic hair with hedge trimmers and call it a highbrow (or even middle of the road) parody. Its dumbness doesn't necessarily make it bad though, especially since it was intended to be dumb.
Spaceballs is a parody and is not dumb. Same for Airplane. If your parody movie relies on nothing but sex jokes and pop culture (soon to be dated) references, it is not a smart movie.
@@LadyLarkAvin Exactly ! And "Scream" is indeed a parody. The fact that it's also a satisfying horror movie makes it even stronger… Plagiarizing other movies randomly while twisting their iconic scenes a bit is just plain bloody lazy.
i mean you can, but like you said, that's the point. you could do the same thing with dumb and dumber - just because that was the goal doesn't mean it's not stupid.
I could be wrong but didn't Orphan come out before the similar real life story? From what I remember that real life situation only happened at most like five years ago. But I could be wrong and there was a completely different situation that happened before it.
The Doofy reveal in its own way elevated Scary Movie ahead of Scream for me which is weird. Having the cop be the killer, the reporter his accomplice, the Billy and Stu archetypes be silly high schoolers copy catting an actual serial killer and the twist that "there never was a Doofy" took what was fine about Scream and gave it a better ending. Sure it's riffing on Usual Suspects but I wasn't expecting a silent nod to Primal Fear. The ending somehow made what was a spoof of a satire on horror movies released 4 years ago by the same company actually better than the more serious send up.
Forgive me but the twilight ending was basically the same. It’s just that in the book we don’t “see” or “read” it happening. I do admit it was nice the added that scene but yeah, that happened in the book it was just a conversation instead of an actual part in the book.
I've read the twilight books, and that last scene is actually shot for shot exactly how it is in the book. All the fights they have on screen are described in vicious detail... Then Alice reveals all that just happened was a vision. They couldn't deviate because the fans are, as you say, RABID
I was gonna say! I only read Breaking Dawn once just to say "Yep I completed that series" and DISTINCTLY remember that happening. And it was dumb in the books, so therefore it was most likely dumb in the movie too. And as I recall it, Aro had a power that allowed them to know FOR SURE that the vision Alice had was the truth, so they couldn't have lied to him about it.
@@TH3F4LC0Nx which turned out to be fake, if you are talking about the couple who got the idea FROM the movie = after facing a neglect and abuse charge, they decided to claim it wasnt a crime because she was actually an adult.
that's not really a twist, though. that's how most of his 'tests' work - they're survivable, if you're willing to do the right thing them all being tested at once, means that they all could've survived.
I remember seeing breaking dawn part 2 and when the final battle was revealed “to just be a dream/vision” there was an actual audible groan in the theater...
Here commenting entirely because of the end card. That was very sweet Jules and really made the mindlessly easy task of watching a video on RU-vid a little brighter.
In my opinion the original firday the 13th twist on it's own is just a decent twist. But when you add the fact that Jason became one of the biggest horror icons and is the villain in every sequel/remake. It makes it iconic. It's one of the only twists that will always live on. Because each new generation of horror fans will only know Jason and assume he was always the killer. And as famous as the twist is the series itself and Jason are even more famous. So it will continue to stay fresh for as long as the series exists.
I totally thought Shattered was going to be on here. A 90s B-movie that I sat numbly through, only to have a twist at the end that left me in awe that nothing like that would have occurred to me. As, you know, plot twists do, I guess.
I had to literally pause the movie when the guy came up from the walls. To me it's one the most shocking reveals I've ever seen. My jawline just dropped to the floor I swear.
Yeah, about that Friday the 13th "plot twist"...NO. You never even learn about ol' dead boy Jason until after you've met Mrs. Voorhees (who is never even mentioned until she pops up in the last act) and she talks about her son, so you do not watch the movie thinking resurrected Jason is the killer. At least, not when the movie came out. Only years down the line, after he'd become the antagonist in the sequels and people associated the films with him (even starting to call them "Jason movies") would anyone retroactively go back to watch the first one, assuming Jason would be the killer and then, at the end, be like "what the hell? It's his mom?" You can't really it a plot twist when it was never even a part of the movie to begin with.
IDK, he made it clear that it's a twist in retrospect. Though he also said we all assumed it was a vengeful Jason, which obviously wasn't at all the case, and it's unclear what the intention even was. But seriously though, between two horror fans, are you sure it doesn't qualify as a twist at all?? Another horror movie even used it to trick someone into spitting out the wrong answer, and that was pretty awesome.
@@libradawg9 That is actually one of my least favorite things in that movie. People have tried to tell me that she's supposed to think he meant the franchise and not the movie, but she literally says "I saw that movie 20 goddamn times!" And there is no possible way that someone that has seen that movie 20 times could think the killer was Jason. It makes no sense. Now, could she be lying or exaggerating? Perhaps, I mean, really, who counts how many times they've seen every movie? But it just annoys me every time.
@@libradawg9 Really, I'd say the twist with Mrs. Voorhees is that, up until that point, the movie is acting like a whodunit. But in the end, it turns out the killer is actually this rando that we've never met or even heard of, so it was impossible to have accurately guessed who the killer was before she showed up.
@@bbwibb02 Dude it's because of the sequels. She thought she'd seen the movie 20x but in actuality NINE Jason movies were released by the time. Matter of fact, this is actually pretty obvious, as it's safe to say she saw the movies several times rather than that specific one.
‘Saw 5’ did have a twist. The players kill each other getting through the games only for the last two to discover they weren’t supposed to kill each other.
As a person that loves the Saw franchise, I'd like to say that Saw V being called "a dumb movie" is the most subjective term to use in this particular film. I personally loved the fifth entry in the series & will take that statement to my grave.
The first movie was great. All others after that are hit miss. I did like watching Hoffman's first outing in Saw V, and watching that glass coffin sink back into the floor, knowing Strahm screwed himself.
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Orphan wasn't a dumb movie. what made this extra scary -- I was at work, watching this movie, and my work, a group home and one of the residents actually is diagnosed with the Orphan rare disease. that alone, holds a special place in my heart. the movie was generic, not dumb... but the ending was epic
I was so relieved by the plot twist in Orphan. It was starting to make my skin crawl when it seemed to be creeping toward pedophilia. Although the husband was still looking pretty skeevy at the end.
Maybe I'm abnormal, but Dead Silence actually petrified me. The dummies were creepy yeah, but it was the _inevitability_ of the villain that scared me. That, once she's got you, there's literally nowhere safe, anywhere, ever. It's the same nauseating dread Final Destination 2 also filled me with.
Saw 5's ending is awesome in the sense that Hoffman believes so strongly that Strahm won't get in the box that he's willing to risk his life on it and the plot twist is that if Strahm could have closed the jigsaw case if he had only gotten in the box but instead Strahm forces Hoffman into it resulting in his own death
Hey now! _Sleepaway Camp_ has some iconic lines! "Wasn't that nice of me, hmm?" "Why, of course! I believe there's a whooole bag." "Eat shit and die, Ricky!" "Eat shit and live, Bill." And of course "HEY ANGELA, WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKED UP?"
Most of the movies on that list are true except for orphan I consider that a twisted masterpiece but another movie i wished u added was cry_wolf 2005 the movie is cringey and has a cheesy plot but the end gave it all the energy it needed to become a movie I actually like even if it is directed by Jeff wadlow who made fantasy island and truth or dare that are somewhat good in my opinion.
Sleepaway Camp is still a pretty silly fun slasher regardless of the twist IMO. It just makes it a lot more memorable. It certainly wasn't bad a flick.
@@jamespope7669 I agree both are than the original Friday The 13th. I like The Burning a lot, but Sleepaway Camp just has a little more charm IMO. Really like both flicks though.
The Lego Movie. For roughly the first half, it seems like just a standard, "okay but nothing special" kiddie flick. Then things start going meta and gradually we realise that the protagonist is standing in for someone else. What at first appeared to be just a slightly silly fantasy tale turns into a touching exploration of the relationship between a father and his son. But it never loses that touch of humour which prevents it from descending into narm territory.
Lol about Breaking Dawn... the way I describe it to people is that the only decent bit of the entire film series, is a bit that doesn't actually happen. Sums it up nicely.
Dead silence is maybe not an amazing masterpiece. But it's not a gory slasher film, it actually scares you with sound, atmosphere, a little psychology maybe, and that ending.... That ending is amazing.
Wild Things perhaps holds the record for most plot twists in one movie. And it’s certainly not dumb. Unapologetically sweaty and sleazy, yes, but not dumb.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this channel was paid to market these movies. This is like the 4th list with, “The Boy”, a movie I never heard of until WhatCulture starting showing up in my newsfeed.
I was a total mark for the SAW movies. I remember in the lead-up to 5 there were “leaked” pictures of the protagonist inside of that last glass coffin trap screaming in pain. It was very meta in that sense. There was a “twist” for the hardcore fans who got led astray by the leaks because he never even gets into the glass coffin, which ironically is why he dies.
