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Just in case... 10, Nightmare Alley 09, Primal Fear 08, Repo Men 07, The Prestige 06, Buried 05, Chinatown 04, Gone Girl 03, The Conversation 02, Se7en 01, Oldboy
In the beginning of "The Prestige," Bale does a trick where he makes a bird disappear and reappear. A little boy watching asks, "But what about his brother?" The little boy figured it out and knew that there were two "twin" birds and one had to be killed in order for the trick to work. The twist is given away in the first 10 minutes and it's a child who figures it out. Kind of makes you feel dumb as an adult to realize that you didn't see it coming. LOL
@@FungiRy91 The twist is that Bale had an identical twin brother the entire time, which is literally what the little boy figures out about the bird. Nolan reveals the twist without you even realizing it. That's not a moot point, but thanks for your opinion.
+Da Vidci - Upgrade is 100% horror/Sci-fi. Anyone who tells you otherwise probably doesn't understand the concept of horror. Or they're Daredevil! 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
"What's in the box?" is currently my favorite movie line and I say it at every opportunity. Which strangely enough, comes up often. It's so common to hear me say it that both my boyfriend and my daughter knew that I was about to say it (when we found a box that didn't have in it what we expected) and all 3 of us yelled "What's in the box???" at the same time! Also: "Soilent Greene is people!" and "To Serve Man is a cookbook!"
As so many has mentioned, I didn’t expect the twist in “Primal Fear”. I didn’t know anything about the movie beforehand. In many movies and stories you can tell, “oh, there’s a twist coming” from the very beginning almost.
One of my favorites is the subtle twist at the end of 12 Monkeys when you realize that James Cole was never meant to actually stop the apocalypse, but only locate the man who started it. His mission was one of sacrifice from the start
My heart dropped and I thought I was going puke from horrific empathy. Edit- I came back to say I felt the worst horrific empathy where I got light headed AND actually puked : Saw 3 - She got the key in the acid, then...realizing what is going on...🤢...,🤮
I can not watch the last scene of Se7en without crying. Brad Pitt played the part so fanatically, it could have been real. His face when he learns she was pregnant just breaks my heart😢
The Archbishop deserved what he got in "Primal Fear." People seem to forget that. He was a sexual predator. Aaron/Roy probably could have gotten off anyway. The real problem was that he killed one of the other Archbishop's victims without even thinking about it.
Primal Fear is high up on my list of favorites. I never saw the end twist coming. Which is unusual. Seven was just about perfect. What do you expect with that cast. Where are The Usual Suspects, Frailty?
I honestly do not understand why very few people talk about Frailty. It is such a great film! Paxton did a great job as actor and director. And the twist…
You kind of left of the ending twists to Prestige and Gone Girl as they leave the audience guessing. Prestige: yes High Jackman’s character used clones to do his trick, but the final twist is actually him saying he’s done the trick so many times, he no longer knows if he’s the original or just a clone. Gone Girl: the twist isnt just that she’s pregnant, but whether she’s lying about Ben Affleck is the real father. We see her earlier shacking up with Neil Patrick Harris and he finished in her. And Affleck’s sister in the movie flat out says his wife could be lying about the baby being his, to which he says it doesn’t matter
In Gone Girl, Nick realizes in the end that staying with Amy will not only keep him safe from further danger but will also help him find the success he always craved but never achieved. At the end of the movie, Nick is practically America's most loved husband. Anything he writes is practically guaranteed to become a bestseller. So, do you live in constant fear, or choose an alternate path that gets you security and wealth? I don't know about others, but I'd very likely choose the latter.
@@krishanubanerjee6955 According to my mother they actually left out the best part of the end which is Nick telling Amy he's going to stay with her not out of love but because it will make her miserable, and if he's going to suffer he can at least make sure she does too. Basically pointing out she has created a perfect Hell for them both because neither can leave without facing public condemnation.
The twist to Angier in The Prestige is the clones have all the memories of Angier, so effectively there's no difference between the original Angier and the countless clones created by Tesla's machine.
@@krishanubanerjee6955 I either imagined the scene, or it was a scene included in the extended version they aired on a movie channel, but I recall Nick saying that too, like "Just as miserable."
The Crying Game should have been #1. Se7en is absolutely a horror movie. Dead Again (1991) has a doozy of a plot twist and a cameo by the late great Robin Williams.
I would have tried to have put Shutter Island on there as the twist was next level not only did you know something was going on but when it's revealed you are blown away then to see the final ending leaves as heart broken as our two heros.
There's a movie I saw many years ago where at first glance it's about a person who can choose to travel between parallel dimensions, and even has a conversation with a woman at a bar where he's describing it and says something like "In one of them, your arm is three inches to the left." There's also a lighthouse across the water with a red blinking light at the top. At the end of the movie it's revealed that he's actually been in a coma the whole time, and the blinking light is the power light on his respirator, which turns off at the movie's end. It's a great twist and I wish I could remember what the movie is called.
You said DelToro's movie as usual "wasn't afraid to pull its punches". Uh, no. To say someone "pulled punches" means that Instead of hitting with all of their force, the person held back. I think you meant that this film like all of his other films "doesn't pull any punches". I also wouldn't call that ending a twist ending. It was a sad ending, but not unexpected. He was simply resigned to his fate, he went back there knowing they wouldn't turn him away.
the thing about Primal Fear is like. (I havent seen it but) If Roy was banking on the fact that he can't be tried for the same murder twice once it was found out he lied, he shouldn't have admitted he lied. Because no, he can't be tried for murder twice, *But he sure as hell can be tried for lying in court*
2:46 Dissociative Identity Disorder, not dissociative personality disorder. I think you may be mixing things up because at the time of this movie's release, it was called multiple personality disorder. But there are currently only 6 disorders that are considered personality disorders, and DID isn't one of them
I think u missed "the departed", had one of the most shocking endings of all time I think" the butterfly effect" could have been on this list.. Also an old movie called "the game" with Micheal Douglas & Sean Penn
Taking Lives was another great movie with a big twist! I love Ethin Hawke he's so good in a lot of movies. This was a great list I'd say I've seen maybe half or so.
The thing about Primal Fear is that everyone is/was so dazzled by the reveal that it overshadows the fact that whether he was Aaron or Roy doesn't really matter. He still genuinely has a mental disorder and he still was likely sexually abused as a child and he still murdered a sexual predator. It's not like he's just going to walk free either.
Aaron is going to walk free. He'll go free after the psychiatric doctors decide he's safe to reenter society. That was the sentencing. The horror, of course, is that Aaron is actually a high-functioning psychopath that can fake whatever behavior or personality he likes. He'll go free, and then he'll inevitably murder truly innocent people, as he already did to Linda. Aaron does have a disorder, but it's not what you're thinking of -- the dissociative identity disorder was something he just faked. Aaron has Antisocial Personality Disorder with excellent social-skills, meaning he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Perhaps the sexual abuse contributed to his psychopathy, or perhaps he was always that way, but murdering Linda proves he's not an avenging anti-hero. There's also the implied possibility that Aaron was a willing accomplice to Rushman's perversion, and that Linda and Alex were their mutual victims. And that Aaron killed Rushman not for revenge, but to tie up a loose end. And also just to enjoy himself. The fact that Aaron killed Linda opens up all of these possibilities.
I mean he may not have DID but he's clearly has some type of mental disorder, whether it's ASPD or something else. And that disorder may have been created or at least exacerbated by the abuse he suffered, so basically it's the same story except unlike a lot of abuse victims, he figured out a way to kill his abuser and get away with it instead of being punished even more. @@Coren999
I'd say "Aww, What's in the box!?" is one of the few impressions i can actually do. The others being, "It's a trap" and Vanilla Ice explaining why Ice Ice Baby isn't the same song as Under Pressure
Saw Nightmare Alley twist coming the moment the Geek is introduced…wasn’t sure how we were getting there…but saw it coming… No 8mm??? That ending sticks with ya…
Genres aren’t fixed and novels and movies can be in more than one genre. Horror is an especially slippery one to define because what people find horrifying varies.
I had this on in the background, and when he said "Number One: Oldboy," I remembered the first time I found out about the twist and how my jaw just DROPPED. The amount of planning.... just UNBELIEVABLE.
I was disappointed in myself for not figuring out the prestige. I was from the generation who watched the masked magician every week and almost every teleporation trick involves twins. If it's not twins it's an extremely flexible assistant
How do you guys miss the incredibly disturbing ending of Jack Nicholson's The Pledge?! I can't even watch that darn movie anymore! UGH! Great list as always folks!
I guessed in The Prestige that Borden had a twin brother because in one scene the camera captures Fallon s face in a way which resembled Christian Bale s shape of face seen from the side. The fact that I knew Bale s face so well helped me find this out. It was a shitty thing to guess, but i still enjoyed the film despite finding that out.
Yeah, I was curious why Fallon resembled Christian Bale so much but didn't connect the dots whilst watching it. Also the giveaway scene where Fallon is outside an appartment, then appears inside the locked appartment in the kitchen with a kettle, which was literally impossible for one person to pull off.
To protect people from potential spoilers, the 10 movies are: #10 Nightmare Alley #9 Primal Fear #8 Repo Men #7 The Prestige #6 Buried #5 Chinatown #4 Gone Girl #3 The Conversation #2 SE7EN #1 Oldboy (2003)
What’s really disturbing about the Prestige is that, regardless of whether the clone or the original is the one teleported away when the machine is used, Hugh Jackman’s original character is dead by the end of the film.
It's not the most disturbing compared to all films, but it's pretty disturbing given the target audience - that Hector was *poisoned* by his singer/songwriter partner Ernesto in Coco, and that we *see it happen on film.* Like... I mean there's tons of dark stuff in animated family movies, but seeing a guy getting deliberately poisoned to death when he just wants to go home to see his family in a Pixar movie was pretty startling. And it's brutal relative to the target audience - that the wacky skeleton we've seen all movie was murdered and see it happen onscreen?!
The writer(s)/director of the movie "Repo Men" not only straight jacked the primise from the movie "Repo! The Genetic Opera", but then proceeded to take the *ABSOLUTELY *AWESOME** primise and make a **DISAPPOINTING** and **ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSING** ripoff of a movie! But....something tells me y'all already knew that 😉.... that is.unless I am reading too much into a "throw away line" But honestly, saying that the "Repo Men'" had a "CRUEL AND THANKLESS JOB" was IMHO, a **GENIUS** way to **SUBTLETY** throw some shade and call out "Repo Men" for ripping off "Repo! The Genetic Opera" by referencing the song from "Repo!" called "THANKLESS JOB" that the "Repo Man"/"Night Surgeon" sings.... But.... If you didnt do it on purpose and/or for that reason, then that has to be one of the **BIGGEST** and most **SPOT ON** coincidences i have **EVER** seen!!
I think the definition of what constitutes a horror movie can become quite subjective. For example, I include Alien and The Terminator in the horror genre. And I've been called out for it. Not that it matters to me; I don't really care for horror. In fact those two are among the exactly four horror movies I like to any degree (along with Kubrick's The Shining and the Westernized version of The Ring). I see no reason for not including Se7en. I've never seen it, but it sounds pretty horrific. Obviously some people will object, but you can't have everything; where would you put it?
I think my definition of a horror film would be: Were you horrified by what happened? I adore genre typical ‘Horror Films’ but also find the horror in plenty of other genres, I’m surprised, as a horror fan, that you get blowback for your choices, Alien is essentially a haunted house film in space, and The Terminator has the ideas of the dystopian future, and predestination added to a relentless monster. That’s horrifying. Horror and Thriller/Suspense have loads of overlap. Se7en is, for me an example of that. I love going over these ideas in genre and themes though!
@@marigold3208 I think a lot of the people I usually deal with take a more shallow approach to their cinema genres. Alien is set in a spaceship, so it must be sci-fi. Imagine how confused they are when I tell them that Star Wars is a fairy tale.
It's a crime thriller. Not really what the majority (including myself) would classify as a conventional "horror" movie per se (apart from the admittedly horrific crimes committed by the serial killer).
what about INCENDIES? NIGHTMARE ALLEY was the same twist as the 1947 version - that one carried into an upbeat ending, but did have Tyrone Power going full geek. Neither movie had Stanton becoming a phoney clergyman instead of an more successful entertainer, but the remake did work in a sudden murder-suicide out of nowhere. The twist re. the Bordens in THE PRESTIGE was pretty obvious given the example of the non-twin doubles; Christoper Priest got round that in the source novel by apparently ruling out the possibilty of twins (while working in a bit of a hint), and wrote a finish that was evocative on the page of an ending far more cinematic than anything in the actual movie.
I totally get that you see it as a horror film but I really don't. I would most definitely class it as a psychological thriller. Featuring several graphic crime scenes does not make it a horror film in my mind.
An Awfully Big Adventure has a pretty disturbing plot twist. Not the mind boggling type of plot twist, but the "oh my god, wtf" lol if you search the trailer, it's pretty deceptive
The original film version of NIGHTMARE ALLEY is a classic - hard to beat Tyrone Power in anything. The novel is even better! THE PRESTIGE is fun, but THE ILLUSIONIST makes more sense (you don't always need a Tesla to create an illusion).
It's a bit of a blasphemy to make a non-horror twist list and not include Fight Club and The Usual Suspects. Do agree with the movies on the list I did watch myself, though.
Um, in The Prestige he was killing himself each time. The point was the trick had driven him to madness, and in madness THAT was the only way the trick would work. You even show the scene that proves I'm correct. He stepped into the machine and a clone was produced some distance away. In that scene he killed the clone. However later in the film it is the original that drops into the tank. He was willing to die to win, only for a clone many deaths later would find out that he had a twin. THAT's why The Prestige is an under-appreciated masterpiece; Most people don't even notice or understand this stuff lol