10 Heldentenors sing high C - Götterdämmerung - all live 

It’s thin and strained

@@ettoredipugnar6990 Not to my ears.

@@jackbulmash4247 Nor mine!

@@ANAXAPCIC It may not sound as good as when a mid-to-high tenor does it, but it's decent at least. However, they're not as loud as Franco Corelli's high C.

William Morris a true heldentenor :)

He also could sing down to low C... his voice was a freak of nature. Not only did he posses a robust sound in all areas of the male voice, but he also maintained that power and vibrance well into his 60s...

@@boundary2580 can you show proof of melchior low c please

Thats cool! I have been practicing and when I started I thought I was a baritone, but I’ve found I am able to do this. With very similar quality! Will keep practicing for sure, and may try some repertoire in this fach!

I have gone down to g1 and up to c6 but dont expect anyone to believe me on a youtube comment with no content yet. Not saying thats my good/consistent singing range but have hit those notes and even lower/higher using different registers and techniques. I could growl a d1 and confirmed it with a pitch detector.

If so, it was not true...

@@AfroPoli can you tell me what a heldentenor is

@@Jay2k2323 It's a basically a german dramatic tenor

Yaboii_cobie it’s literally just a dramatic tenor. I would say it’s a cooler name, but “dramatic tenor” has a nice ring to it as well.

hahhhhah OMG just thought the same

I agree‼️😎👍

set swanholm has more depth than him

mario del monaco & max lorenz have more power than him

@@thisisit8735 this recording of Lauritz is not of good quality, as most recordings made during that time and before tended to brighten the voices of the singers significantly. Listen to the baritones of the time. If you want a good example of Melchoirs voice look for a recording from his later years, maybe his 60-70s. He still ha d a great sound there. Set is far brighter than him.

Set svanholm’s sounded so much better and more in control!

Well said! Vinay is the best!!!

Vinay fascinates me. He's the only singer that I know of that sang both Otello AND Iago.

He was actually a bariton... without squillo. He was wise enough not to try "Siegfried".

@@docmalthus Carlos Guichandot and Paolo Silveri sang both roles. It's not too far fetched to believe that Renato Zanelli sang both roles, also.

That was Beecham, not Toscanini.

You may be correct. The article I read attributed the statement to Toscanini but you can't believe everything you read to be correct.

I cant imaging Tamango as a Heldentenor . Espc with his limited recordings.

I think Jay Hunter Morris is the closest we have to a true Heldentenor like Melchior today. He has a very fine voice and the athleticism to sing these roles well.

@@ettoredipugnar6990 Keep in mind that Tamagno was ill (heart issues), retired and died shortly after the recordings were made. They were not truly indicative of his true power and ringing top. Verdi picked him as Othello for a reason.

What about Vinay?

But Vinay can sing bass, other great Wagnerian tenors can’t!

@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 'Cause Viany was no tenor at all.

Vinay is so interesting - a clear baritonal sound, singing high C and doing it so well. So powerful. I agree it is a pity he did not hold the tone a little longer. Now he gives the impression that he couldn't hold the C longer. Is that correct? He was splendid av Furtwänglers Otello (no high notes there) and as Tristan (not the highest role).

...Sen.Domingo himself would not call him Heldentenor. Neither would I, despite calling a wonderful singer and artist.

Lauritz Melchior , Max Lorenz, Ludwig Suthaus, Wolfgang Windgassen, Ramon Vinay and Set Svanholm actually were first-ranked singers. And they were heldentenors with heavy and very big voices, while Domingo had much lighter spinto voice. It's hard to make a comparsion, this kind of repertoire simply couldn't be sung by Domingo.

Konrad Messerer domingo is terrible nothing of real artistry

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@@Guy-bm5wh he had bad technique?

He didn't. He had some weird Christian hangup about the role.

@@q45ij54q That's odd....I always thought he was just keeping within certain vocal boundaries.....I mean he sang SiegMUND as well as a great Tristan....I mean the man knew what he was doing he had around 40 roles and had a career of a pretty fair length

Vickers didn't have a C , but what a voice !!!!!

Many heldentenors can improve as musicians even if they start elsewhere.

I believe that Windgassen is actually a lyric tenor who sang a lot of Wagner. I prefer Melchior, Svanholm, Vinay, Lorenz, Beirer, Thomas and King.

@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 hear hear

Vinay non era umano o che? 😬

@@jobeshufe06 Vinay aveva una voce di colore più scuro,pastosa e molto più grande del basso ''moderno'' Samuel Ramey,e' un fatto. ha cantato da baritono e alla fine della sua carriera clamorosa come non bastasse ha interpretato Il Grande Inquisitore ... alla fine dei conti Ramon Vinay /uno dei migliori Otello nella storia della lirica.../ semplicemente e' stato un fenomeno . era un leone della lirica .

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I agree with all of that. Lorenz has a special timbre to his voice that I believe comes from his superb acting ability.

Anche Svanholm è buono...

No, he could not sing like Melchior. Of course I like Lorenz, too.

Hans Dampf, Melchior whom I did see on about Eight Occasions In Covent Garden including Otello in Italian, where I also saw Lorenz three times, I also saw Lorenz many times after the War, most of these I heard at one point in my Life, the more modern ones you can forget, the first I heard doing this was Rudolf Laubenthal when I was 11 Years old in 1930, I am now on the verge of 102 years of age, Melchior was not a bad actor and he certainly was agile on the stage when needed Certainly as the Two Siegfrieds, Lorenz I can concur, he was a very good actor and Wagnerian Tenor, he and Melchior were friendly , but he fell out with many of the German Austrian and some Scandinavian singers in the Nazi era, I once talked to Herbert Janssen about Melchior, he thought it rather strange to watch the bidding for roles when many of the Jewish left, he himself vowed never to give the Nazi salute, some of the German Singers did in Covent Garden after 33, including Lorenz, Bockelmann and Volker, others notably Maria Muller did not, Politics of that period of History was full of Intrigue, Singers were drawn in to that, Janssen who was German did not, Lorenz was Hitler's Favourite, he could do nothing wrong, but Melchior always had a major following in Germany and Austria , but he hated the Heil Hitler's of the Scandinavians and told them so, Svanholm gave the salute, joyfully, so did many others the most notorious was the Great Helge Rosvaenge who I think made a big mistake, he was one of the greatest Tenors I ever heard and nobody can take that away from him, I heard him in 37 and 38 and after the War in 52 and 53, 54. Great Singer. also Volker another beautiful voice, who was not a Nazi suffered the consequences, he should have been seen more often. Back to Lorenz and Melchior , Lorenz I thought that his singing in Die Meistersinger was not comfortable, the High Tessitura of the part for the Heldentenor really to my thinking was not his forte, he looked the part and acted well, Siegfried suited him down to the ground he was a great Siegfried, so was Melchior, it was absolutely amazing to here his voice in full flow, Lorenz had a big voice, but Melchior had a Big voice with great carrying power, I heard my first Tristan in 1931, when Melchior was partnered by Frida Leider, many say Flagstad was his best, but Leider was immense in that Opera in a different way, she had Warmth , that is why Melchior liked her and Lehmann, Melchior had something else at his disposal, he had Colour and Pathos in that Large Voice and had an incredible Head voice to boot, this section in Gotterdamrung I heard Melchior and Lorenz and many others, Melchior was Polished and Musical, all his Wagner was musical, he never really barked or shouted, he had no need to, it was the perfect voice for Wagner, they were both very Tall men and Lorenz was not as large as Melchior in the late 30's and 40's, I would say they are the Parnassus of Helden tenors in Wagner, let us enjoy them both as I did. I found it very sad at the way the Operatic World dismissed Lorenz, I met them both at some periods in the late 50's Lorenz always talked rather quietly and with good manners, a lovely Man. Melchior equally had great personality wit and humour, it is sad to think what would have Lorenz become if he had stayed in the US in the 30's, he was a very private man for obvious reasons, but the Nazi's owned him, at least he survived, he rarely talked of his experience and when I talked to Melchior in a small interview I did with him for a London Opera magazine in the fifties, he was very kind and talked about the good parts of Lorenz's very troubled life, Beecham liked them both, Furtwangler , Melchior really got up his nose as to say, Toscanini was a great admirer of Melchior not only about his singing, but his Anti Fascism will certainly be remembered of his Broadcasts to Denmark. during the War,. I hope you keep admiring the two greats, they will never be found again that is for sure.

@@robertevans8010 Dear Mr. Evans, I felt a sense of unreality reading your comment. Thank you very much for the unique, most valuable and interesting testimony of a contemporary. You are lucky to see and hear a great era that will never return. A terrible and difficult time, and at the same time - a time of a great art, full of high, strong and genuine passions and great characters. I sincerely wish you good health and all the best. (PS: Excuse my poor English)

tenorette2003 and you think those tenors with holding high c did not know that?

Menos el segundo, Max Lorenz, que empezó como tenor lírico

who is "Ramay"?

@@kable321 Probably Ramon Vinay. Just took out all the middle letters. ;)

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@@Alexander.Christian-0612 Finden wir endlich, wohin du flogest?

In general, the C's do get worse, especially after 1960.

Teredin Faustus Melchior has a true heldentenor sound which surprisingly enough should have the bite of a leggerio but with the baritonal sound in the lower/middle register.

Do you think anybody can answer that question?

Because his technique is better than a lot of “bass-baritones”.

@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 why do you just keep saying dumb shit? Darker doesn’t mean better