Gotta disagree with your view on Iggy Pop's Vorta. His character was spot on with his comedic reserved frustration over the situation. He combined this with an almost Severus Snape disdain for what was going on. Priceless.
I loved that we saw, maybe 5 different Vorta, and they all had radically different personalities and yet they all managed to still sell the idea that they all had the same goal in mind - expand the Dominion.
I saw 'First Contact' at the cinema, and I can tell you that when Robert Picardo's EMH appeared, there was a huge cheer and applause from the audience. I saw it three times, and the audience reaction was the same each time.
brianartillery Robert Picardo always managed to draw a smile and a laugh from me, he delivered some great lines with comedic accuracy and timing.... When I saw him in First Contact, I thought that was a great move...... His interaction with EMH1 in Voyager was very funny too.... Some charactors, you look forward to seeing, Robert was certainly one of them.
It was cool seeing an “OG” hologram doctor. He’s supposed to be a briefly used AI, it makes perfect sense that they wouldn’t go to the effort of different designs.
Agreed. Ellie (or whoever wrote this one) complains about not getting the same Iggy Pop we're used to seeing in performances, and talks about how much better the episode would have been if we had-- and then turns right around and complains that they DID give us the same Dwayne Johnson/Rock that we're used to seeing in performances, and how it made the episode worse. Pick a lane.
@@TheOneTrueChris I was just coming here to say that. How is it that Iggy's performance wasn't "Iggy-like" enough, so it ruined the episode, but Dwayne's performance was essentially the same characterization we saw him play in the WWE, and it was disappointing? What exactly do you want the guest stars to do?
It shows they have range too, doesn't it? As opposed to, "Yeah, just come in an be yourself" The same as Avery Brooks, he's a farcry from how he portrays Sisko
I think it's hilarious that Hawking used his cameo to poke fun at Einstein. An interesting footnote to that story is, Hawking died on Einstein's birthday. So, I guess Einstein got the last laugh, after all.
Hawking practically spent his entire life suffering from the disease that eventually killed him (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a neuromuscular ailment).
If he was a major character in that movie I wouldn't have had a problem with that. He's underrated, Mr Robot really showed that. Probably would have been great.
I was thinking the same thing. Slater had already made a name for himself and they easily could have used him in a larger role for star power. This wasn't Kirstie Alley in ST:II, this was Slater post Robin Hood.
@@PaulTheFranklin And this was the last hurrah. I would imagine, that the only regret he had, was that he was talking to Sulu, not Spock, Dr. McCoy, or Captain Kirk. (Not diminishing Sulu, but he wasn't the Trinity.)
I didn’t know that Vorta was Iggy Pop, but I do remember thinking it was a great characterization and different from all the previous Vorta’s. I really liked the dry, “over it” attitude 😅
The Rock episode still makes sense to build the idea that the Borg are truly hated and that it bleeds onto people like Seven. Especially in Delta quadrant where the Borg have the widest reach.
I agree on your point, but the writing isn't there well enough to really bring that to the forefront they way that it could have been. Likely because the episode was rushed and an order that came down from the Network ("Do a wrestling episode!") as opposed to something that developed organically. Am I giving the Voyager writers a little too much credit? Probably, but gotta give it where I can after their handling of Janeway as a whole.
I disagree with you on Iggy Pop. I loved the contrast between his 'flat' character and the absolute chaos gremlins in Quark's army. His Vorta being level-headed, even apathetic, to our Ferengei heroes pulling ridiculous shenanigans hoping something would work for 45 minutes was comedic in its own way. Also, the show does a good job making every Vorta have a unique personality despite them being more or less clones with a singular purpose.
Christian Slater's character was never on the bridge. He had a cameo with an obscured face in Captain Sulu's quarters door. His silhouette and voice were immediately unmistakable.
I can't really blame Denise Crosby for wanting Yar to have better writing in for her to make a guest appearance as Yar in an alternative timeline in "Yesterday's Enterprise”
She's was great in the very first episode. I don't see how she thought she was just a token female character. BUT at least she stood up for what she believed and pushed equality.
@@jordanbridges There was SO much more they could have done with her part but the writers didn't know what to do with her other than have her raise the shields or be physical. Marina Sirtis almost left for similar reasons as well, and we saw them do similar to Worf throughout the majority of the series. Remove the Worf-centric episodes and he's mostly just a punching bag who growls from his station until DS9. But remove the Data-centric episodes and Data is still a developed character, same with LaForge. Yar would have had the same uphill battle.
If you haven't seen it, watch "Chaos on the Bridge" Its a great documentary about the pre-production and 1st season of TNG. Behind the scenes production and writing were a total dysfunctional clusterfuck of overbearing egos. I think all this unprofessionalism behind the camera was a bigger factor in Denise Crosby leaving. Wish she had stuck around cause season 2 got a lot better when some of the creatives left and Rodenberry took a major step back/quit meddling.
I really loved it also... I was a teenager when I first watched it and a huge Rock fan, still am. I use to watch Voyager with my late mom and StarTrek was one of the few shows we both liked... I never expected the Rock to turn up on something like Start Trek though... When he Rock-bottomed 7 of 9, my mom didn't understand the hype, but I just about lost my shit!!!
Sounds like Jon de Lancie is a Star Trek fan. His demand is very rare and admirable. Fun fact; Nichelle Nichols has worked alot with NASA. My father use to work at Goddard space flight center and actually had a chance to talk to her. She was there to assist in satellite tracking relay information and she stopped by my father's office. My father has always been a huge Star Trek fan as well.
Actually Stockwell and Bakula's last team up was on NCIS: NOLA, where the producers paid so little for lodging Stockwell reported he stayed in Bakula's guest room to save on the show's transportation costs.
Yeah, I really liked the implication that he had the hots for the captain. I thought to myself "Now that's the best way to humanize a near-omnipotent being!"
Next Generation actually had pretty impressive ratings from the start so it wasn't exactly a "small cult following" even then. The fact that it was the top rated syndicated drama at the time is the only reason the show even got a second season.
And the only reason he had a problem with it, is because there wasn't sufficient data or math at the time to properly model WHY there would be such a thing. Pretty reasonable to think it's sus back then.
Re: #1 The demand didn't necessarily come from Rocky himself.....It likely came from WWE....and being a fan for AGES......likely directly from Vince McMahon himself.
Probably didn't even come from WWE. Likely UPN started thinking about what they can do to cross-promote long before WWE on UPN was a done deal. The memo was likely on Star Trek desks before the ink on the contract was even dry.
If I was a famous actor who was offered a guest appearance on Trek I'd have a demand. Make me an alien. I want to wear the stuff. I know it's a pain in the neck to put on but it would be just so cool.
Hawking has guest starred on several shows and every time he actually does his own dialog. Since he uses a voice synthesizer it could just be "dubbed" later with him just sitting in the shots, but he insisted on talking himself.
8:50 I've heard that Christopher Plummer raised the same request as Stockwell. This is why General Chang has a very soft make-up in comparison with other Klingons.
My favorite return character is Q... my second favorite return character is Guinean ... my favorite guest star is Stephen Hawkins and my second favorite is De Forest Kelly
It’s just sad to see Whoopi Goldberg go from such a highly esteemed, loved, and respected actress to landing on The View where her hate, anger, bitterness, and bigotry was laid exposed to the world.
"Doctor" us still an applicable title for Stephen Hawking. He does, afterall, have a PhD in Theoretical Physics 👩🦼 He can still be addressed as Doctor at ANY time...... 🌌🔭
"Robert Picardo wanted to have a role in a huge Blockbuster" Is that Robert Picardo from Innerspace with Jack Quaid's parents? "Some Young Guy" Christian Slater
It was so obvious that the EMH would look the same as a default like siri or alexa until you change the voice all sound the same. as for Iggy I was amazed that he was so calm and it made the scene more impactful as he was being calm and not outrageous
I’ve loved Whoopi’s interviews where she talks about growing up a fan of Star Trek. Everyone talks about the interracial kiss but ML-FUCKING-K told Nichelle Nichols how important her representation was. Whoopi’s quote is roughly “mummy mummy, she ain’t playing no maid!” As a lesbian I remember Buffy being the first show to have good (for the time) lesbian representation, so I can imagine seeing Nichelle would have been life altering for young Whoopi.
It probably wasn't Rock's demand. The whole thing was a promotion for the WWE because it was coming to the same channel. The demand was that the episode basically be a Wrestling episode rather than a normal Trek one. It could've been worse. They could've been timey wimeyed into 90s America and actually been involved in a real wrestling match.
I kinda wish that somehow through some wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff that the alternate Yar could have crossed back over to the Prime Universe. It would have been an interesting dynamic with all the people who had grieved her passing. But… then again we’d not have gotten Sela, so nevermind, haha.
Naw, could've gotten both. Have Yar succeed in her escape attempt and come back to the Federation after the fact. It's not like it's anymore nonsensical than Sela herself existing.
Big Show (Paul White) had a better scene than the Rock. Not because of acting, it was just a better episode, and his cameo played to his physical size and strength.
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Robert Picardo already had a role in a blockbuster. Small Soldiers. :-p
crusher using the emh as a distraction was hilarious denise coming back as alternate yar and sela was great iggy pop was great as a vorta slater's cameo was garbage
Before he became the biggest star ever? I didn't even watch wrestling and I could smell what The Rock was cooking. He was huge long before he started doing movies.
Dean Stockwell's aversion to exten- sive makeup sessions for appliances will find fervent agreement with John Rhys Davies (himself a Star Trek al- umnus as Leonardo da Vinci on sev- eral episodes of ST: Voyager) for his experience as Gimli the Dwarf in the Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-2003, Warner Bros, Peter Jackson, Howard Shore). Bernard Hill, portraying Theo- den King of Rohan in The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002, Warner Bros, Peter Jackson, Howard Shore) and The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003, Warner Bros, Peter Jackson, Howard Shore) eschewed one method to create the extremely aged facial appearance early in the story sequence.
Maybe you Brits think Iggy Pop was the "founder" of 90s Grunge... But that's really naïve and comical. That's just the typical Brit attitude that every English speaking world phenomenon MUST originate with them. Obnoxious.
It would be nice if we could all be so comfortable in life that we pursue what we love, rather than what will pay the bills. Goldberg made the right decision to pursue that role. Hell, I think we'd *all* have done the same thing.
