I don't blame Viggo for not wanting to return as Aragorn in "The Hobbit" movies. As brilliant as Viggo is as an actor, even he would have had serious trouble as a 54-56 year old (his age when "The Hobbit" trilogy was made) convincingly playing a 9-10 year old, which is the age Aragorn (then known as "Estel") was at the time the story of "The Hobbit" took place...
his charcter was 87 by the time of the Lord of the Rings movies specifically Two Towers. By the books its about seventy years before the Fellowship even leaves The Shire and makes their way to Rivendell. Meaning he would be 17 at the oldest and convincing audiences that Viggo Mortenson was that young even with CGI is impossible.
@@V2011FAragorn was born 2931 of the Third age. The events in the Hobbit took place 2941 in the Third Age. Aragorn was 10 years old when the events in the Hobbit took place.
@@jackplenty2064Aragorn's father was dead for 7 years before the events of the Hobbit. He was killed by orcs in the north far from the Shire and Rivendell.
"What do you think the greatest Keanu Reeves in Cinema Hisotry is." The first that comes to mind is him as the villain, Don Jon, in "Much Ado About Nothing". I just happen to think that was a great job of acting. As always thank you so very much for the videos.
The 60 year gap between The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring wouldn't have been much of a problem since he's a Dunedain and therefore ages more slowly than regular men. While in the books he was only about 10 during the events of The Hobbit, that's only because there's a 17 year gap between Bilbo's departure and the ring being taken out of the Shire. This gap is absent in the movie, and that results in Aragorn being in his late 20s. The main reason Aragorn shouldn't have been in those movies is that it has no relevance on the plot and it would have been nothing but fan service, and it would have been pretty hard to conceal the age difference (both points being painfully obvious with the appearance of Legolas in that trilogy).
I remember Mrs. Doubtfire began with Robin Williams' character refusing to read certain lines for a cartoon character smoking a cigarette because of the message it would send to kids. It's pretty cool knowing he had that kind of integrity in real life as well.
Williams had a demand for every movie he was in that the production company had to hire at least 10 homeless people for jobs. It's estimated he helped get over 1500 homeless people some work.
The third movie really should have been scrapped or rewritten when Rachel Weisz said no. She, as Evie, was the heart and soul of the first 2 movies, even though Brendan Fraser's Rick was the hero.
I loved the first two mommy movies, Rachel and Brendan had perfect chemistry, switch her out was a deal breaker for me. I did not watch it. But I guess as it flopped, not many did!... @@stevegallo8483
Did not like the replacement actress. Not that she was a bad actress per se. The character became irritatingly inconsistent and just stuck out like a sore thumb. Bad writing and miscasting. Killed the franchise imo. 😒
Aragorn was a 10 year old boy named Estel who did live in Rivendell when Bilbo passed through there. Having Viggo in the movie would have been bizarre. Having an otherwise unexplained 10 year old human boy with brown hair in the court of Elrond would have been a cool Easter egg.
Everything I can find puts his age at 87 years in the fellowship of the ring, meaning he would have been 27 at the time of The Hobbit. Where did you get age 10 from? No snark intended, genuine question...
@@blackskullandy281"In the book, the event in the Hobbit took place around 60 years before The Lord of the Rings and Frodo has kept the ring for around 17 more years before he met Aragorn, which at the time was around 87-88 years old. Therefore, in the Tolkien original version Aragorn was around 10years old in the Hobbit"
@@blackskullandy281 Aragorn was born in the year 2931 of the Third age. The dragon Smaug died in 2941. So aragorn was 10 years old during the events of the Hobbit. Viggo is great, but I don't think he could pull off a 10 year old performance.
@@lynnevetter I guess the question is, how closely do the films adhere to the Novel's timeline. As noted, in the books, Bilbo leaves the ring to Frodo following his birthday, and they more or less carry on with their lives for another 17 years before fleeing to Bree and encountering Strider. The film makes it feel as if less than a year has passed between Bilbo's birthday and Frodo's journey to Bree.
I think the producers just completely forgot about the extra 17 year gap in fellowship of the ring so they were just cool with 55ish year old Viggo playing a 27 year old for whatever reason.
I'm so glad that they didn't get back together at the end of Mrs Doubtfire- that movie genuinely helped me get through my parents' divorce, and Robin Williams was exactly right when he said that ending would have given children false hope; we already had Parent Trap for that lol
IMO, that was the perfect happy ending. 1) Miranda has a partner she can rely on. She has less stress in her life and can be a better mother. 2) Daniel becomes a more responsible, well-rounded man and father. 3) Most importantly, the kids don't have to take sides. They don't have to choose one parent or the other.
Shes 37 not unlikely for her to have an adult son besides with the right make up she can look older. I wonder why they didn’t cast another English actress.
O yes and WC forgot the other reason why she didn't do the return and that is the fact that she was pregnant at the time as well. but yes let's just for get that reason.
I can agree with a lot of these decisions. Mrs. Doubtfire was pitch perfect. I think eventually making Ralph Fiennes character M was good, although, they did play into the ambiguity during Spectre of "whose side is he on?" Yes, a cruise ship is slower than a bus! Honestly, it's telling when some of the actors have more sense than producers pitching a movie!
Maybe they removed some scenes after Robin and Sally asked that Daniel and Miranda not get back together, but the fact is, they were already getting divorced at the start of the movie and nothing in the movie showed that issue being resolved. Miranda realized that despite his failings, Daniel still wanted and deserved to be around his kids, but that had nothing to do with them getting back together.
Correcting the Mrs. Doubtfire ending was absolutely the right call. A reconciliation would have thrown an already largely unrealistic but comical movie into banality.
Same reason they changed Pierce Brosnan's character from a stereotypical jerk to a genuine nice guy that loved the mom and wanted to be the kind of serious father that Alan never was.
Not only was George not dying in Rampage a good call, they made a rather hilarious scene out of it by having George punk the Rock's character by pretending to be dead to get a reaction out of him. As changes go, that was definitely making the most of the situation.
It is called pattern recognition. The Rock has not established a franchise to call his own, but continually parasites off other established properties. He even came back to the Fast franchise, due to Black Adam flopping.@@Gamesta100
The Greatest Keanu Reeves moment in cinema history was he and Alex Winters both proclaiming to the future "Be Excellent To Each Other, and Party On Dudes!"
Being an American (and an early teen at the time), I never saw Blance Ravalec before she was Dolly. I've seen other pics of her without the braids and glasses though, but some articles described her as a supermodel.
Can we all agree that Jaws and Dolly have the perfect romance in Moonraker? Kiel has the best line in the whole Bond franchise, IMO: "Well, here's to us."
Most of these calls were good ones, it shows that the actors knew their characters, the role they played, and how it affects the rest of the movie. There’s times when the creativity of certain executives need to be questioned if it really is the appropriate move for these characters.
The third Mummy shouldn't have been set in China. They shouldn't have done it without Rachel Weisz. They shouldn't have taken the worst aspect of the second film (the kid) and made him front and center in the third movie either.
Agree with all of them, especially Weiz, the Rock and Robin Williams. Favorite Keanu Reeves movie, tough one ... devils advocate ... little Buddha, John Wick
yeah, he should have. But at least it kinda, sorta makes sense. He would have been an adult and the party did go right through his home. So while he wasn't in the book (because tolkien hadn't written his character yet), there isn't a logical reason why he couldn't have been. But yeah, aragorn was 10 at the time. There is no way that makes sense.
I recall at the time of Mummy 3 the reason given for Rachel stepping away was the Jury movie she did at the time, she chose it over Mummy 3 due to it being a chance to work with Gene Hackman who was retiring around that time. That said her issue with the kid's age if true is well justified, the age jump between films made no sense, almost as bad as Anakin's between TPM and AOTC.
@@marlonclark-pp9wg yes, but when? I’ve heard that for quite awhile. 2024? Probably not, and I can’t believe it’s taken this long and still no sequel yet.
Silly as it may sound, I think Keanu Reeves' absolute BEST moment on screen was his "I want room service" soliloquy from Johnny Mnemonic. He sells the whole character in that one scene, as hilarious as it is. It's perfect.
Surprised there was no mention of Leonard Nimoy and DeForest Kelley refusing to have Spock and McCoy betray Kirk in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. And even more surprising that the entire cast didn't tell William Shatner "thanks, but no thanks."
Mandella Effect; I know what I saw at the cinema in 1980, as did the entire audience who screamed laughing at the braces reveal; that was the pay-off gag. Nice work CERN you psychopaths; what else have you gone back and altered?
I liked the plot of tomb of the dragon emperor, just didn’t like the fact Rachel weitz wasn’t in it and the whole estranged father and son plot with Alex and Rick.
HOORAY to Ralph Fiennes for standing on principle!!! Much has been questionable about the latest changes to the James Bond franchise, but it would have been unforgivable to turn M dark.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with Rachel Weisz on Mummy 3, boy was that a total letdown. Definitely on Team Keanu on Speed 2 as well - too bad Sandra Bullock didn't miss that boat.
5:06 it would have rewritten the entire movie. While the story of Mrs. Doubtfire is told mainly through the character played by Robin Williams, we can plainly see that that character is not a good husband and is only a “fun” dad, but not a great dad either. So if they were to have gone that direction it would have been very weird.
I've heard that Dwayne based his career on Schwarzenegger's, and I like knowing that on some level he's 100% aware of what it's all about. People go to his movies for entertainment and good times, and he mostly does his best to deliver. "This isn't Saving Private Ryan" is the exact headspace you need to be in if your going to sign up for a Rampage movie
Actually there is a 77 year gap between the Hobbit and the Fellowship of the Ring, Aragorn was 10 years old when Bilbo's adventure happened. Aragorn did live in Rivendell at the time.
Keanu Reeves refused Speed 2 also because of Devil's Advocate and chance to work with Al Pacino. And yes Fox didn't want to cast Keanu for whole decade because of that, since Devil's Advocate was produced by Warner Bros.
09:00 A short "young Aragorn" cameo, just a suspiciously un-elvish looking boy passing by in the background at Rivendell would have been cool though. I'm not sure if Mortensen has children, but even they would probably been have too old for that role at the time 😅
There was no time to add that in. The moves were a tightly woven intricate web and that would have simply added an unnecessary scene and bloated the films. How did i type that with a straight face :)
Too funny that Michelle thought Letty cheating on Dom was “too unrealistic” for the Fast & Furious world. Really? I don’t think ANYTHING is “too unrealistic” for that franchise! 😂
Keanu definitely comes across as a genuinely honest, friendly, and considerate human publicly. As an actor I feel he’s quite good and commits to the choices he makes to portray a character regardless if you think they are good or bad. That said my favourite character is a guilty pleasure and a very small role. I find his role as the French-Canadian goalie in Youngblood endlessly entertaining.
You forgot one of the most iconic rejections on Cinema history...Peter Weller not wanting to do Robocop three thanks to how bad he suffered filming the second one...and then, Nancy Allen requesting his character Ann Lewis being killed on screen out of respect for Peter's decisión...
If I remember correctly Aragon was in his mid eighties in the first book so he definitely would have been alive and kicking in The Hobbit. So that aspect of it is dumb but the character not being in The Hobbit was right so shoe horning him in would have been as lame as jamming Legolas in to the extent that they did.
Legolas makes sense since Thranduil is involved in the story.Legolas just wasn't created at the time the Hobbit was written. The issue was it should have only been short cameos and not getting his own story thread, which hopefully they weren't planning with Aragorn. Aragorn would hopefully have just been a cameo, they do refrence to him at the end of BotFA.
@@lynnevetter so a cameo would have worked, what exactly is your point? You said basically the same thing the guy above you said and didn't provide anything to my original post that hadn't been covered.
@@paulcanning4702 I think the first one was great but they dragged it out after that. Comparing the books, The Hobbit is like a pamphlet to the Lord of the Rings.
Rampage was such a hard film to take seriously. Having a sad death scene at the end would have been rather jarring if you ask me. Dwayne made the right call.
I think that Jaws character plays the best role when he gets trapped in the underwater cave, instead of trying to break the walls, he sits down in a pose similar to the famous "thinker" statue and waits for his oxygen to run out. He made it totally believable even if it was unbelievable. yeah, I don't think many women would play a mother of a child they could date. She was way too young looking to be a mother of a adult child.
Jaws love interest was the actor's idea? I loved that little twist. I also agree wholeheartedly with The Rock. Life sucks hard enough without some sanctimonious hollywood types shitting on it more.
Yes and perhaps, being in his 20s he might have been a passing character in Rivendell but it was better to leave him out and not have to cgi a young Viggo.
My parents took my sister and I to see Mrs. Doubtfire on my 9th birthday in January ‘94. They were acting weird and awkward during and after the movie. …the day before my mom had told dad that she wanted a divorce. I can only imagine what my mustachioed dad was thinking about during the film.
Mrs. Doubtfire is a great movie partly because it didn't have the typical happy Hollywood ending. That kind of ending would have been unrealistic. And everyone, from the movie-going public to critics would have hated it.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596I don't remember if they changed the timeline from the movies other than the huge year gap that it actually took Frodo from "found a ring" to "lets destroy the ring". But either way Viggo would be way too old and have no reason to be there.
Sommers should have made a PREQUEL to the Mummy: Rick and Beni in the French Foreign Legion. Tell the story of how they met, the pilots they knew (e.g. Winstead), and have a fun non-supernatural action comedy.
I 100% agree with Dwayne Johnson. The idea of killing off movie characters and heroes is ridiculously overdone. I know it depends on the kind of movie, whether its a serious drama or an adventure. However it appears directors and scriptwriters don't!
"My character wouldn't do this" makes sense coming from an actor only if a new writer is writing new material for a character they've been playing for a while. If the Michelle Rodriguez thing is from the first film, it doesn't make sense for her to say something like that. In fact, it's rather laughable.
Reeves was more interested in touring withbhis band dogstar. I think they should have also excluded glenn plummer the guy whose car reeves appropriated in the first movie came back in the sequel this time his boat was taken. The joke would have been better if it was reeves.
Richard Kiel as Jaws was a fantastic baddie against Roger Moores more relaxed Bond. He even became a character that the audience grew to like and want a happy ending for.
I could go on all day about Reeve's work. Love the guy, from Bill & Ted to John Wick. I really appreciate his role as Johnny Mnemonic. I love the part when they drop cars on him at the Bridge. His temper here was relatable and and often quoted IRL.
All the movies the actors in question pulled out of turned out to be bad, at the very least they were worse than the movie that preceded them. The video frames it as "refused to do" when really it should be "knew wouldn't work."
For Keanu Reeves, he was derided for the second Bill & Teds and so didn't do a sequel until, Matrix (I think). After that he's done more (John Wick, B&T3, etc.)
Basically all of these are justified except The Rock's. His middle-of-the-road, zero-risk schtick is so lame. There's no question it's worked for him. But it's not that he doesn't want to add more sadness to the world. What a bunch of nonsense. It's that he always does the thing that he thinks will be best for his "brand" no matter what. He's not an actor. He's a product.
The sound level on this is a lot quieter than usual ? - Or is it just me ? The first three decisions I agree with, as these sequels as shown were...less good (! ?). Rampage, nope, not the best end, but I understand the reasoning behind keeping George alive. After all you might make enough profit to greenlit a sequel.
