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Watched No Way Home at home and… didnt love it 😬. Felt weird watching the many awkward pauses for audience applause. Twilight is always a fun ironic watch though
Dude, Verhoven's biography mentions how he and the cast we litterally boo'd off severall panels, being called fascists. How is that not being criticized for supposedly being pro-fascism?
I always thought that the people behind the movie never read the book at all. At most they read a synopsis of the book or had someone tell them about the book. The never understood the technology, social commentary, or philosophy that formed the basis of the book and explained the political system, which is nothing like fascism at all, that the book proposed. If anything their system is more akin to a Platonic Republic or some other modern take on distribution of political power. Seriously, it’s not even military rule. You serve to be a citizen and get the right to vote…but anyone could serve regardless of ability. In America such a concept is in practice as military service can lead to citizenship for foreign born migrants.
Pet Semetary remake was not good. They just did the cheap Hollywood thing where hey I know how we’ll make it different and not a direct remake, let’s switch the kids dying. And - Gage the killer toddler in the og one was not silly, it was fucking awesome. Ya’ll 100% wrong on this one
I couldn't agree with this more. Was ahuge fan of the book and the original. The new one was a dumpster fire of terribleness, and not even that lame so called twist could save it. Wasn't there a scene where he almost gets hit by a CGI truck IN HIS BASEMENT? Ugh.
And neither compare to the book. I know people always say that but Pet Sematary is a classic example of the book being far superior. I almost wish I saw the movie first because so many people love that movie(1989)
It's been a while since I read the book but I don't remember any other child but Gage. Also the boy chasing the ball into the road sadly does happen but why was the older girl standing in the road too.
Heinlein's novel, while being militaristic, isn't fascist in the slightest, nor is it even anywhere close to hyperfocused on war and violence as the movie would have you believe.
Aye...as entertaining as PV's take on it might have been at times, I'm still waiting for a real version of Starship Troopers. I think the thing that hacked me off the most was the depiction of the Arachnids as these techless animals who only managed to kill marines because it took multiple clips of ammo to drop one. They had technology in the real story and used it. The Marines had power armor like Ironman (not exactly like Ironman but pretty deadly as such). I was hoping to see that war.
@@varthelmThe Arachnids in the ST movie made no sense as animals. As a species with a similar tech level and communication ability to humans, they were competitors for worlds and resources. As animals with unusual morphology (what evolutionary pressures produced the Tankers, let alone the Plasma Bugs?), they shouldn't have been on multiple worlds at all, let alone been any sort of danger to Earth. I saw it in the theater and had a good time, but I too would love to see a more faithful adaptation. Something that had a feel more like Full Metal Jacket, but with powered armor and orbital drops.
I've rarely heard a more accurate description of how I feel about those movies. I smoke weed too so I know when something is compelling or so shitty even weed cant help make it good.
yeah... no way home is overrated, but spider-man 3 is easily the worst spider-man movie. none of the other spider-man movies come close. spider-man 3 is like a C- at best while the rest are at least a B.
Glad I scrolled first. Surprised they mentioned the passing-comment but neglect the actual "we'll kill your imitation in *our* franchise", especially in a list where Deadpool kills "Deadpool" in "air-quotes".
WhatCulture got it wrong on Starship Troopers. The novel and the movie managed to be a satire which is ironic because the people that produced the movie never read the novel. In fact that script, which was not originally related to the book, was adapted to include some material from the novel.
The book is a great read. All this whining about it being fascist is just wannabee commies of the critical nature that hate ANYTHING that's the slightest bit anti left wing. Verhoeven is just one of those raw capitalists that pretend to be a commies while actually being an elitist one percenter that gets rich off the masses in the freest society on earth. Starship Troopers was an absolute disaster of a joke of a movie no matter how you look at it - satire or no. At BEST it was a shitty remake of Robocop.
Honestly Godzilla final wars would've been a better choice. TOHO literally bought the rights for the 1998 version renamed it zilla then made zilla look like trash and made him fight that movies Godzilla then made him die in a brutal and very disrespectful way and on top of that had sum 41 we're all to blame playing In the background.
@@HariSeldon913 I disagree, he's hilariously scene-chewing and I don't care about gravitas in such a wacky movie. I mean come on, the heroes have a Soviet-Samurai-Mike Haggar on their team, who WOULD proudly hit a (evil cyborg alien) lady.
@@lewisirwin5363 Don Frye is hilarious, though I thought of him more like a Sgt Slaughter. The Planet X leader always looks like he's about to burst into tears.
For the cutest “this ain’t your daddy’s film”, go watch the first appearance of Chris Reeve’s Superman in 1978. Lois hangs from the chopper, Clark runs to change… and public phones weren’t in booths anymore.
Placing Spiderman 3 above No Way Home, is an easy way to let everyone know that you have no idea what you're talking about. To follow that up with calling the Twilight vision ending "smart?" This guy has to be just trolling, right?
@@AgentMorayI saw it in theaters, genius. The animation was so bad I walked out TWICE to make sure I didn't need 3D glasses. It was so bad it caused seizures. Accusing me of being a thief is incredibly disrespectful.
I was waiting for them to bring up Sword of the Valiant when talking about The Green Knight. Fallowing it up with a Sean Connery film was kind of satisfying.
…How is NWH even in the argument of Worst Spider-Man movies. “Wah! Because it’s all just a bunch of nostalgia bait and cameos!” And how does that make it bad, exactly?
I actually met michael Ironside once randomly at an art gallery in Astoria, OR. I told him i was a huge fan! Seaquest, stargate… etc. he asked what my favorite thing he had done was and i said “i loved you in starship troopers!” He… did not seemed pleased 😂
You're talking about an actor that's been in so many POS movies I just laugh whenever I see his face. He's like the epitome cheese - and I was a teen in the 80s when he was in tons of the movies I liked and enjoyed! Starship troopers is a terrible movie, though, no matter how you look at it.
The number eight DEADPOOL: hate to say it but DEADPOOL also shot Ryan Reynolds in the back of the head when he finished reading the script for the movie Green Lantern as Ryan Reynolds said something like "this will be great" DEADPOOL shot and said (your welcome canada).
Starship Troopers The Book was as anti-fascist as they come, and there were a lot of good points raised by it. The movie, however, was so over the top that no one really knew what to think about it. But wonderful way to show how you've never read the book.....
We analysed the book in a political science class and it is clearly pro militarist and fascist propaganda it can be. So i guess you don't even know what fascism is and think the book advocate libertarianism as i have heard many Randriods preach it do.
Not this guy talking about no one understanding Starship Troopers the movie when he doesn't understand the original novel. Pro-Fascist my muscular buttocks.
A couple of creators started saying that a couple years ago because it was a fresh perspective on the novel. These days, it's cause they're high on their own ego or buying farts from OF thots while trying to convince themselves they aren't Eugene anymore.
@@AzurKutsuu It's an absolutely terrible movie in EVERY way imaginable. Satire and "missed the point entirely" aside, it's total garbage and is totally unwatchable for anyone over 12.
The BEST part of "Creed" was when they addressed the "rematch" Rocky and Apollo happened at the end of "Rocky III", freeze-framing on the first punch. Adonis asked who won, and Rocky, very matter of fact-ly said, "Apollo." ------- (*edited to remove stupidity*)
Man the amount of R.I.P.s in the Rocky and Creed clips. Carl Weathers, James Brown, Tommy Morrison, Sage Stallone, Burt Young and maybe another one or two that I missed
The fact that Verhoeven's Starship Troopers was falsely called pro-fascism should've told both you and him that you both were falsely doing the same of Heinlein's book. Which doesn't actually have any fascism in it.
As much as I absolutely *LOVE* Starship Troopers, it should be part of a master class that shows us how well conventionally attractive people are at persuading people do things they don't wanna do.
@@caronstout354 Starship Troopers was WOKE in the book. How else do you explain that only women were the pilots because they were better than men at flying? Maybe if Verhoven wasn't illiterate, he wouldn't have that ridiculous love (Rhombus?) Maybe if WhatCulture could read they'd understand this.
@@caronstout354 Like that ever mattered. We barely had any good movies based on books because people just want to loosely base their stories off of good books. Sure we had good ones like Shining and Fight Club, but Hollywood's reputation on book adaptations is horrendous (not to mention comic books).
@@tdcfc Kubrick's Shining was an awful movie filled with disgusting visuals (true to the book or not) and horrible pacing. Why people praise that movie is beyond me. Considering that and Eyes Wide Shut, I have no idea why anyone thinks Kubrick was a good director.
That hero comment you want, but never leave 10 0:41 "The Green knight" 9 2:08 "Goldfinger" 8 3:41 "Deadpool" 7 4:48 "Godzilla,Mortha,King Childorah: Giant Monsters All-out Attack" 6 6:01 "Pet Sematary" (SIC) 5 7:34 "Creed" 4 8:52 "Starship Troopers" 3 10:28 "Haloween" (2018) 2 11:40 "Spider-Man: Intro The Spiderverse" 1 13:09 "The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2" This has been Able Magwitch , with less culture than a cup of yogurt........ The Omega (not that "Legend" didn't do "The Omegaman" different ) answer though is -> "Battlestar Galactica" (2004) The pilot film for the Re-imagined series while on TV it took the destruction into a real dark place that fit in post 9-11-2001 world, where the 1978 series wouldn't work as well. Along with in Universe "Razor" (film) showing the Battlestar Pegasus's backstory which was done better than the original series, with better Caine.
1) Starship Troopers the novel was not pro fascist. Totally aside from the argument "portraying and praising are not the same," the society portrayed in Starship Troopers was NOT AT ALL FASCISTIC, and was far more Constitutionalist than anything. It simply postulated a society in which you were required to do two years of civil service (of any kind) in order to gain the right to vote. BUT if you wanted to do your two years, the government HAD to find a job for you, and HAD to honor moral considerations (such as pacifism) and physical considerations (such as handicaps). So literally, the only thing preventing anyone from voting is a lack of interest in working a "lower class" job for two years. (The chief non-citizens we see are actually upper-middle class, and discourage the main character from joining on a "why waste two years of your life" argument.) 2) Heinlein was portraying this society, not praising it. In one scene, the history teacher asks his class "Why do we have this system?" He then shoots down every idealistic answer, basically saying, "yeah, but statistics show that people who do their civil service are no better in any way than people who don't." The history teacher's "reason we keep this system" amounts to "it hasn't created any problems, so there's no impetus to change it." That's basically Heinlein saying "No I don't believe limiting votership to people who work for it would produce a magically superior society. I'm just using it as the backdrop for a story about a kid joining up just before a war." 3) The reason people have trouble with the idea that Starship Troopers the movie was satire is that it was BAD SATIRE. (Also, most people going into a theater have no clue who the director is and what other movies he's directed. Get out of here with "It was Paul Verhoven, so obviously...") If you strip away the PSA-style military propaganda and the anit-militaristic boot-camp scenes, Rico's story is a fairly standard action movie. Rico wins. Rico's team (Team Fascist Earth) wins. Rico does not suffer in any way for supporting his fascist government and waging a war of invasion against the enemy bugs. There are no obvious flaws to the fascistic society. In good satire, the flaws of the system are exposed, and those who partake in the system suffer for it. But if you look at the PSAs, they're terrible, off-kilter, and in every way opposite of real fascist propaganda. Except, of course, for the "I'm doing my part" bit, which was copied shot for shot and word for word from a 3rd Reich propaganda film. (Meaning, Paul Verhoven was less adept at mocking fascists than the actual fascists.) The movie doesn't know whether it wants to be a heroic action flick, or a satire of fascism, and it is just mediocre at both.
I've heard some crazy takes (and like to hope I'm wrong on this) but actually saying all 3 films that Garfield was Spider-Man (including No Way Home) in as worse than Spiderman 3 is......WTF!
The Red Chinese (represented by "Mr. Ling" in the movie) backing Goldfinger was a change from the novel as well: Goldfinger was a Russian SMERSH agent in the book, suspected by M to be its Treasurer/Paymaster. Communist China was also SPECTRE's client in 1967's You Only Live Twice.
I walked out of Starhip Troopers, being excited as hell for seeing such a great satire... and even back then, a friend bitched about how "fascist" the movie was... ...really? Please watch the "we're doing our part", stomping EARTH bugs part, again... and then repeat that claim, with a straight face. :D
What annoys me most is the number of people who think gwains head is going to magically fall off at the ending because they miss the point and take it literally.
2:04 - You couldn't help yourself could you? XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD 4:48 through 6:00 - And then Godzilla Final Wars went and had "Zilla" show up in all his CGI "glory" to get one shotted by a guy in a rubber suit. Fucking glorious XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
Interesting take on some of these films. Viewers who have never read Heinlein's ''Starship Troopers" and have only seen criticism from others who have never read the story would be well advised to read it for themselves.
Idk if it was All Out Monster Attack or a different one but a better jab at the 1999 Godzilla was the movie that not only canonized it into the actual Big G Universe by having ‘99 G appear but having him be defeated in literally 5 seconds by Godzilla. He jumps at Big G, gets tossed aside, blasted, and that’s it for the fight. 😂
The only people who believe Heinlein's Starship Troopers advocates fascism are people who never actually read it. INCLUDING verhoeven. English was his second language and he admitted that he only read one chapter and had to have a friend explaint the rest of the book to him. Chances are the friend never read the book either and was also regurgitating what he'd heard, like 95% of the books critics.......
3:20 "At most two hours before the Army moves in"? The location referred to as "Fort Knox" is the United States Bullion Depository located adjacent to the military base of Fort Knox, Kentucky, Fort Knox, known as the Home of Armor (meaning TANKS). The Depository is bounded on three sides by the Army base, and on one side by State Highway 31W. The only entrance to the Depository grounds is on the OUTWARD side of the entrance road to the military base. The Depository and the Entrance Gate for the fort are within shouting distance of each other, so at the first sound of the depository's defensive .50 cal machine guns, there would be a phone call from the guard house to the base commander, and about 15 minutes before the MPs arrive well outside the perimeter of the depository to arrest anyone who looks suspicious, and about 30 minutes after that that the ARMED M1A1 Main Battle Tanks roll in to make sure NOTHING leaves the area without permission. (The delay is in getting the live ammo from the armory and loading the tanks, you don't leave a tank parked on base with ammo in it.) For anyone who makes it INSIDE the perimeter controlled by the Treasury Department, may God have mercy on their souls, for the Depository guards, who are part of the Treasury Department, and not part of the military, are also NOT bound by the Geneva Conventions; they WILL use .50cal weapons on personnel, and they are NOT required to accept surrenders. Fun Fact: The base Officer's Golf Course is located next to the Depository, and there are a plethora of golf balls left abandoned next to the Depository's iron fence, behind a wire stretched around the Depository, three feet outside the fence. That wire marks the legal boundary between the base and the Depository; anything that crosses that wire CAN be shot at by the Depository guards up on the building's walls. They don't bother shooting the golf balls (unless they pass through the iron fence), but the rumor is that they WILL shoot off the hand of any dumb Lieutenant who reaches past that wire to retrieve their ball. It's considered a rumor because, to date, no Lieutenant has actually been dumb enough to test the rumor.
The Breaking Dawn scene reminds me of a D&D game I took part in... probably 15 or so years ago. We'd just created our characters, and in our first ever session, invaded a cave and got ourselves utterly TPK'd by a bunch of goblins and wolves... ...until my character woke up in a cold sweat. Our _second_ session was a replay of the first, in which my prophetic dream (which the GM remembered I'd taken as part of my creation) to guide us as to what _not_ to do this time... 😜
Anyone who thinks Starship Troopers is “Fascists in Space” clearly hasn’t read it. Neither did the director, he’s quoted as such, finding it “ boring “.
I’ll have to watch the full unedited version again someday. The only cut I’ve seen since the theatre has been the edited for TV one. I know... I’m missing a lot!
I walked out of Starhip Troopers, being excited as hell for seeing such a great satire... and even back then, a friend bitched about how "fascist" the movie was... ...really? Please watch the "we're doing our part", stomping EARTH bugs part, again... and then repeat that claim, with a straight face. :D
@@TheTsengMaoNo it's not. It's an analysis of various forms of governnance. There is nothing satirical about the Mobile Infantry, it's an opposing mirror image against the society that existed at the time. Heinlein knew good and goddamn well what he was doing by valorizing service, and Starship is a far more honest opinion of his general philosophy, until he got into the sex stuff later, than some of his other books that are misinterpreted, "Stranger in A Strange Land" is great, but THAT is a satire. Read his stuff before he started to get locked into the sex fold, and it's all the same. The importance of service, the importance of learning new things, the importance of courage in the face of fear, and the growth that you create even if it means that you die. It wasn't until his older years that he started playing with the common culture of the late 60's into the early 80's with hedonism. And THOSE were, at the start, satires. Starship troopers was an example of the how best to create the perfect, through the use of extreme tropes, which is common in all sci-fi.
The first TASM is not that bad, people are just pissy because it's not Sam Raimi behind the camera or Tobey Maguire behind the mask. Is it perfect? No, but there's still a lot to like about that movie. TASM2 is a raging bin fire though.
@MrMonkey2475 I have my faults with the movie as I do with any movie but I thought it was fun and they tried to do something a bit different to what we were used to and I respect that. I also think there's many aspects of those movies that age better than Raimi's trilogy but ultimately they didn't know what they wanted that series to be and that's where the problems began. But I do enjoy that first movie for what it is.
About Twilight - the book states multiple times that Alice can't see the werewolves in her visions, but the movie definitely shows them . . . in that final vision. I bugged me to no end that they created a plot hole that didn't exist in the books.
0:36 Suicide squad was so dumb I basically have blocked it from memory, and actually don’t remember that line. I guess that line didn’t stand out enough from the rest of the movie.
"Spider-man 3" is 2/3 of a good movie. They just packed it with too many villains and spoiled the whole thing. Venom definitely should've never been in the movie.
I prefer The Sword of the Valiant to The Green Knight. SotV had Sean Connery and handsome Miles O'Keeffe beautiful location's and many interesting side characters.
Starship Troopers is a 200 page book. Unless you have a genuine reading disability that's a rainy Sunday afternoon. Yet critics of the book insist it's fascist propaganda based, not on having read the book themselves, but because of a review a critic wrote back in the 1960's who apparently could see hidden messages in the story that even the author didn't realize were there.
Punchline about the smartness of nuking gold in goldfinger. Gold is a noble metal, so it wouldn't react to a blast, other than melthing a bit. And it wouldn't matter if it was a dirty bomb, because only the most surface bars would be "covered" with radiation that can be cleared with soap and water, because not only is gold noble, it's a very dence and heavy metal that is the perfect medium for not giving one damn about radiation. Clean off the alpha dust, and everything else is cool.
While I've never heard the term 'noble metal' before, gold is indeed almost as good at blocking radiation as lead. It's just so much more expensive that it never is put to that use.
@@HariSeldon913"noble" in chemistry means non reactive. Helium does not react to any other element other than helium. All of the far right portion of the periodic table are called "Noble gasses." meaning they do not react to any other element in nature to create new molecule. Gold has those characteristics. Gold does not react to other elements as far as I know, and if it does only under significant energetic forcing. That's what makes gold ACTUALLY valuable. Gold don't rust. Gold doesn't decay, gold doesn't transition states. It's Noble, it's something all it's own. I often refer to Nitrogen as a "practically noble gase" because even though it DOES have numerous molecular combinations in nature, it requires a great deal of energy, that's why virtually every nitrogen molecule can be turned into a high energy explosive.
@@youtubeme7195 There are definitely gold compounds out there, particularly with the 7A's. Matter of fact there's both a triflouride (AuF3) and a pentaflouride (AuF5). Of course, Florine is so reactive it's been known to get Xenon to give up an electron for a fraction of a second here and there.
Hilarious that people still think the Starship Troopers book was pro fascist. They are dim as people who didn't get the over the top fascist parody that was the Starship Troopers movie
Starship Troopers was WOKE in the book. How else do you explain that only women were the pilots because they were better than men at flying? Maybe if Verhoven wasn't illiterate, he wouldn't have that ridiculous love (Rhombus?) Maybe if WhatCulture could read they'd understand this.
@johnburns9634 They weren't woke. Women were pilots because they were better at it. A large point of the book was everyone can do anything to get their citizenship. A paraplegic could join the military and they couldn't turn you away. They would find what you were best suited for, like the female pilots.
Hardly "WOKE". Whether or not Heinlein was right about the relative skills of men and women, what's being presented is clearly a meritocracy, which is far from woke.@@johnburns9634
No mention of the massive changes made to both Jaws and First Blood compared to their books? With both movies being far superior in their portrayal of the protagonists and their handling of the endings. If you had read those books first (especially Jaws) you probably wouldn't bother watching the movie adaptation. Rare to see such huge changes from the source material work so well.
I actually liked Amazing Spider-man, Andrew Garfield version of spider-man is the most comic book accurate spider-man IMO (although I thought his Peter Parker was too cool 😂)
Pet Sematary 2019 was terrible and Gage was the coolest child villain ever created. And his "second death" scene was heartrending in its portrayal even though the kid was a totally evil monster.
That whole Gold finger plot is I'm sorry to say is completely wrong. The whole plot is about leaving an dirty atomic weapon in the repository. It was supposed to explode causing the whole of the US gold supply to become hopelessly irradiated. Then all of Goldfinger's gold would at that time worth some order of magnitude more then it was already worth. Had absolutely nothing to do with stealing the gold. Love your show. 🤗😎👍
The novel "Starship Troopers" was a direct criticism of "all that fascist-y stuff in the book", which was the direction American culture and government were headed in the 1950's. The movie was a weak reproduction of that discussion, and changing Diz's gender for the addition of an unnecessary tragic love angle detracted from the telling.
I watched starship troopers for the first time this valentines because my husband couldn’t believe I hadn’t seen it and OMG, I could have lived without it 😴 was such a relief when it was over, I can’t believe I managed to stay awake 😅
The last one was bait. There was no wink and nod from the movie, so even if you thought the fake-out was better, they didn't WANT US TO KNOW IT. "It would have been lame not to show you how you die" might have been a good line or something like it.
Starship Troopers by Robert A Heinlein, was so much better than the book. They turned a guy who dies within the first 2 pages into Rico’s replacement female love interest. The book is better, same thing goes for Asimov’s I, Robot. Will Smith’s version is just crap. Or why not look into the original version of Wanted, the story got thrown out the window although they kept the names. The Troopers had POWER ARMOR in the book, how is this new one better, seriously how ? Sometimes the original was perfect and doesnt need someone’s touch added to it, sometimes it does, The Italian Job comes to mind, but mostly its just about how to short change the author to maximize profits because why do things the right way when you can steal it from somebody else - its why there are hardly any new ideas in Hollywood, that dirty word again, Profits.
Actually, I think a lot of people are turned around on Spider Man 3, in that it's "not as bad as everyone remembers", including me! ... But...it's still... sorta... kinda... not that good.
