10 MVP Awards That Made No Sense... 

Embiid proved it this year

Yeah people do need to remember that since alot of people discredit other players on their past post season performance yet it's the postsoon not regular season

Facts this guy didn’t

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It doesn't help that the NBA doesn't announce the REGULAR SEASON awards until the playoffs have already started or have ended. They need to just announce them after the regular season but before the playoffs start

Maybe, but what we are talking about is championships. It does not matter whether a player has 1 or 2 MVP's, if he does not have a champiomship ring, its useless. Where is Steve Nash's, Amare Stoudamire's championship ring to be honeat?

I'm a huge Kobe fan but Nash deserved both especially since they made Kobe quit in the playoffs

You Dont win an MVP averaging 15 ppg

He was just the best player on the best team

@@dalilahdarancou2335he was the best player on a team he made better smh 🤦‍♂️

youre right... also if you give him mvp in 2005, you have no choice to do it again in 2006 considering he was doing more with less. still those nash mvps were more a product of a narrative at that time instead of objectively giving it to the actual mvp.

2006 was kobe's year to win that. Take him off that 06 lakers team and they don't make the playoffs. Plus he took the suns to 7 games.

yeah but also because its possible for players to improve? individually steve nash didnt have good averages in the 06 season at all over kobe, literally the only case you could give is cuz his team won alot but thats literally team success. if someone had worse individual averages than someone but had a better winning record team, the reason for it is because STEVE NASH’S TEAMMATES had better averages than kobes teammates

@@justinhuynh9982 saying Nash didn’t have good averages in 06 is one of the goofiest things I’ve ever heard. It’s unfortunate Kobe’s teammates were ass but we’re going off what we had and Nash had a significantly better record, a top offensive player, and arguably the most impactful player in the league. As great as Kobe was he doesn’t have a case in my eyes. Case for best player in the league probably but as for MVP no.

@@mr.longjohn0014 steve nashs averaged werent good enough to be the best player in the league, its dumb that mvp is best player on the best team because MVP is most valuable player, which is the greatest player not the greatest player on the best team otherwise if thats the cass bill russells mvp against wilts 50 point average was rightly given to bill, and obviously it wasnt.

@@justinhuynh9982 who said he was the best in the league? MVP is almost never given to the best player in the league, Nash literally turned a lottery team into a 1st seeded team, and the year after without his second best player he still won 54+ games. Stop this Nash was legit the most valuable player in the league when he won those awards. If MVP went to the greatest player in the league then nobody outside of LeBron and Jordan would have any, use common sense my guy. Nash still put up elite numbers on 50,40,90, he wasn’t a crazy scorer but was top 3 in efficient given his volume, especially in the dead ball era of ball. Stop this my guy he 100% deserved those.

@@mr.longjohn0014 so you dont think hes the best player in the league but he shouldve won mvp because he was the best player on the highest seeded team? so bill russells the goat because he was the best player on one of the best dynasties of all time? mj and lebron should have won more mvps too so yeah thanks for pointing that out. when discussing the greatest player of all time, theres a reason why people talk about who had the best individual seasons and not who had the best team records each year. when we talk MVP we dont talk whos mvp by nba standards, we say whos the greatest that season not who was the best player on the best team that season, when we talk who was the GOAT, not many say bill russells the goat but hes literally the greatest player on one of the greatest dynasties of all time winning 11 rings. so obviously jordan, lebron and kobe should have more and im not even a kobe fan too i actually think people overrate him, but this take on nash deserrving the mvp is outrageous.

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Perfect analysis

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Rose solo carried the Bulls to #1 seed in a conference with a freshly formed super team. well deserved mvp.

@@_M....the bulls was one of the best defensive teams that year bruh what

@@jaxson1211?

Exactly

Kobes mvp is fraudulent

@@Jake-bm7cu lies

BS Toni Kukoc wasn't past his prime Pippen still played 37 games and the NBA was super weak in 1998

Only Rodman was older then 35 and he was still LEADING THE LEAGUE IN REBOUNDS WITH 15 RPG Bulls had the 3rd best defense. Thats a team stat "injured retirement home" BS. Jordan fanboy exposed

What lot of injuries?

Fax

Thats basically the fucking fmvp, like last year the bp was jokic, 2022 the bp was curry 2021 the bp was giannis 2020 the bp was lebron 2019 bp was def kawhi 2018 is lebron 2017 the bp should be curry 2016 bp was lebron for sure 2015 the bp was curry 2014 bp lebron/kawhi 2013 bp is lebron 2012 bp was lebron 2011 bp was dirk 2010 bp was kobe 2009 bp was kobe 2008 bp could have been kg or pierce 2007 bp was timmy/tony parker 2006 bp was shaq maybe debatably wade 2005 bp was tim duncan 2004 bp was shaq/kobe 2003 bp was tim duncan 2002 bp was shaq 2001 bp Ai (voters fatigue because why not) 2000 bp was shaq Most of them were just the finals mvp

With Pippen Bulls were 36-8, meaning a monstrous %77 winning rate Without Pippen they dropped to 26-12, which isnt very MVP worthy Without Pippen at all, Jordan aint getting that MVP

No Kobe shouldn’t, no team in a 7th seed is getting mvp, idc how and your team is, ur not that valuable if u can’t at least sneak a 5th seed

@@aliciasplaytime6905 1982 Moses Malone and 2017 Russell Westbrook: Shut up lil nigga

Yeah Jason should have at least one in is career

@@enhancedutility266 I'm talking MVP, not a championship

@@jaykaynum5569 That's what I was referred to also

The Wolves missed the playoffs that year, despite having a winning record (KG's last winning record with the team), so unfortunately there is no way he deserved it more than Nash or Shaq that year. Pretty much all were correct except for 2006, which Kobe deserved (his second best player was Lamar Odom that year, and Phil coming back is likely the reason they made the playoffs those two seasons before 07-08), and I definitely would have swapped MJ and Malone in 97-98. Iverson deserved it in 01 (second option was Aaron McKie, enough said), as did Nash in 05 (similar to Kidd in that he changed the culture of the team that had Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson, etc. on it the previous year and made them winners by getting rid of Marbury), Rose in 2011 (his second option was a committee of Deng, Noah, or Boozer), and Harden in 2018 (that was Harden and the Rockets at their peaks), and there is a really good case for either Kobe/CP3 in 08 (remember, Kobe had a top seed with Bynum, Odom, and Fisher as his supporting cast until the Pau trade so he had a similar supporting cast as CP3 much of the year) and Duncan/Kidd in 01 (Kidd having 26 more wins than Marbury and making the Finals with the same supporting cast and less impressive stats speaks VOLUMES for his impact).

Idc even if he averaged 100 no team missing the playoffs getting mvp I’m sorry

no way u just said shaq never changed the nba…

Jordan was better plain and simple. Jordan didn't have better teammates. Bulls won 69 games after winning 72. Now 98 is more of an argument. People forget Stockton missed the beginning of the season. Bulls and Jazz were tied for the best record in the league.

@@sideshowbobsaget8876 if you took a look at the stats side by side without knowing whos is who, karl malone would have better stats. people only think mj deserve it because hes mj. mj definitely had better teammates even scottie pippen was averaging 20 while placing 4th in dpoy. mj only had the edge in scoring but not by alot, while karl malone was the far better rebounder, with a tiny bit more assists. karl malone was more efficient and had a better true shooting as well. they both made first team all defense and had similar defensive stats as well. you can make a case for either one but saying mj was “clearly” better is dumb and hes only saying that because its mj

the season lebron averaged 30 8 7 and lead the trash ass cavs to the finals yea sure pal you cannot convince me

Fr it’s a huge thing yes but I will take the 25 ppg on 70% over 33 on like 50% every time plus you have to factor in record context of the teammates they have and full season consistency

No, lebron had more wins beats him in every stat other than points

No lebron deserved all his mvps wade has no argument over lebron, scoring like a point more isn’t more impressive than wins especially who wade has a better team, like bro lebrons best teammate was mo Williams.

I don't know, Wilt showed every season in the playoffs that he was not that valuable

I don’t agree, finals mvp ur outplaying 2 teams ur own and the opponent, mvp ur outplaying every team

@@aliciasplaytime6905 yea but playoffs >regular season and finals>regular season

you probably didn’t know about how dirty the spurs back in Nash’s day. bad luck aka injuries also plays a key role in the playoffs. just ask cp3 and tmac

I feel like they were too small n not good enough on d

The Suns win it all in 2007 if Horry's dirty tactics alongside the NBA's PTSD from Malice at the Palace didn't team up to co exist in one night, 2 ridiculous and strange events doomed them lol

Plus you have stern rigging games for the Lakers and Spurs

You didnt watch enough suns games with nash 😂😂😂😂😂

No

@@alexandermendez4653 yes

​@@_M....No

Nash deserved the mvp u saying kobe should of won whole using the ppg argument shows you dont know ball..

@@WADESGOATED ppg isnt the only argument and to add to that, thats the first person to put numbere like that since Mike. He led a lakers team of no allstars at all to the playoffs. The scoring side was self explanatory in that season for Kobe. People like you try to claim you know "ball" when you sit behind a screen and push a stupid ass agenda. I have played this sport at a high level for more than a decade.

So you’re saying that the MVP should only go to players who average over 20, 30 and 40 points even if they are a bottom half playoff seed and even worse, stuck in no man’s land and a lottery team

Players voted for the MVP Players loved Russell and, plus your team, allow the most points. Wilt was a stat padder and playoff choker.

@@bronxjewelix yeah it's not just a coincidence that as soon as Paul Arizin retired after the 62' season, Wilt missed the playoffs altogether. That's not even the worst part. After getting swept in the first round by the Syracuse Nationals, Wilt basically teamed up with that team a few years later and that's who eventually won his first ring with. He pulled a Durant 50+ years before Durant did

@@hakeemolajuwon4352You have to be a gold medal level hater to think that move and Durant’s move is the same. Not to mention he beat them in the playoffs the very next season

@@chieflancewaiters7034 yes of course it was Wilt that beat the Nationals and it had nothing to do with Paul Arizin avg 27p, 7r, 3a .... that's why as soon as Arizin retired Wilt missed the playoffs

Why would he win mvp 2 years earlier in his rookie season then?

@@chieflancewaiters7034 he wasn't a meme quite yet. There was no offensive goaltending back in that time, lots of books written at the time verify Wilt used to literally steal shots from his teammates by putting home "lobs" not meant to be passes, or just getting fingertips on it like in volleyball. There's a reason none of his teammates spoke glowingly about him after he retired.

@@kevinwillette5161They speak of him as a Legend. Almost 30 years after his death and some people even consider him The Greatest Of All Time. Stop hating 🤡

What? he doesn't even deserve all the ones he has

hater spotted u dont even make sense@@hakeemolajuwon4352

@@hakeemolajuwon4352😂😂😂😂 u can make an argument that he doesn’t deserve anymore but saying he doesn’t deserve his 4 mvps is wild. 2009 2010 was literally so obvious it’s lebron that even Kobe fans agree, 2009 Kobe and wade were the next two closest. Lebron beat both in wins and averaged 2nd out of those 3 in points and leads them in every other category, 2010 there was no contender, Kobe was not close im sorry, wade in 2010 was not the wade in 2009. 2012 was an argument between lebron and kd, lebron averaged 2 less points but beat him in every other category and won more, 2013 I don’t need to explain he got robbed unanimous mvp by a bitch who literally said “I know lebron is the best player but I still voted Carmelo Anthony cuz I hate lebron” he didn’t actually say that but u can search the man that robbed lebrons unanimous mvp and watch his discussion

On a 41 win team

@@melvynsngltn27 yeah, Shaq could never lead a team that bad to the playoffs ever in his life. That's why Olajuwon is the greatest

@@hakeemolajuwon4352 please rookie Shaq had the same record as prime Olajuwon. Hakeem was overrated lost in the first round most of his career. Played 18 seasons only had four good playoff runs

@@melvynsngltn27 Shaq got swept 5x in the 90's when all the real centers were playing. Olajuwon was averaging 37p, 16r in his first round losses, he wasn't getting swept and dominated by Rik Smits the way Shaq was. Olajuwon made Shaq cry on the court

@@melvynsngltn27 Shaq had super teams and still only had 4 good playoff runs, and one of them he was carried by another all time great guard, Wade! Lol Shaq got manhandled by little 6'7 Rodman, and Rodman couldn't guard Olajuwon to save his life

Please his team was no worst than Allen Iverson or young LeBron

@@melvynsngltn27 You've got to be joking me. 😑 Those teams were actually great defensively. That's so stereotypical to mention those teams. Alot of solid role players on those squads.

@@melvynsngltn27 And again those teams were in weak Eastern conferences. In the West they probably wouldn't of even made the playoffs. But Kobe DID

@@grantrmoore Kobe didn't the Lakers did

@@grantrmoore the Sixers would of made the playoffs with Iverson

He meant bruce bowen