man megaman is solid game its easy or not like other megaman games but its good game ... there is so mutch more bad games... sorry but maby u dont know more games on nes ?
I'm a game historian, so I do know most of the games on the console, but I haven't played them all. I own 64 consoles and I'm regularly changing between them based on what my Twitch subscribers want. Currently I'm going through the entire Konami library from 1977 to now.
I have to disagree about Strider. While the arcade was far superior (and Strider 2 is my favorite arcade platformer of all time), the NES version was its own brand of fun. It wasn't a port of the arcade Strider, but follows the plot of the Strider manga in Japan. I'll admit that when it came out, when I was a kid, I was a little miffed that it wasn't the arcade game, I ended up loving it anyway. And I always had the arcade Genesis port. And then in 2000, I walked into an arcade in Sapporo and discovered Strider 2. So. Much. Fun.
2:29 I got to humbly disagree. I got nothing but fond memories for 3D world runner. This was the first time I had this kind of view in a platfomer in the late 1980s so it was pretty groundbreaking for me. No game was like that at the time. And as repetitive as the music was it it was delightful and it still rings in my head so many years later. I never was able to see 3D mode but it must have been cool
I haven't seen 3D mode either. I wonder what glasses are needed for it. That's an aspect of retro gaming I've never checked out. Thank you for taking the time to comment, it means alot to me!
I had the fortune to own this game and a few pairs of 3D glasses as a kid. Its just a little gimmick, the same way avatar in 3D was. While cool, its still a ridiculously hard game that will crush your balls and send u back to the first world over, and over, and over again. Dont think i ever beat that game as a kid.
I got this game for my 10th birthday and liked it a quite a bit. It came with a pair of standard 3D glasses (I actually still have mine!), which worked on CRT televisions. I always played in regular 2D mode, but did check it out in 3D. I was the same way with "Rad Racer." It was neat for a minute, but not the ideal way to play.
Strider NES was not an adaptation of the arcade game; it was an adaptation of the “Strider Hiryu” manga that told a story of Hiryu being forced out of retirement to deal with a completely different threat than in the arcade (in which he was a rookie Strider). I do agree with you that it was weird and the gameplay was janky. It felt really rushed, and ignored all the abilities he had in the arcade game (wall crawling, assistant machines, etc.). I enjoyed it nonetheless, but if they’d taken the time to at least polish the gameplay and other elements, it would have been an NES classic.
such a crime you didn't bring up Taboo: The Sixth Sense as its an actual waste of time and money because there's no game its just fortune telling software that amounts to nothing
If I haven't played it, I won't give an opinion on it! It's one of the things that sets me apart from people who just google "worst games ever". Merry Christmas!
Ha i came to say the same comment lol. I rented that abomination when i was a kid. I remember it said not for kids under 18 on the box. Boy was I disappointed
the worst NES game I've ever played was obviously Action 52. My brother and I were way into emulation back in the early 2000s and we thought this NES compilation of 52 games sounded cool... boy were we wrong. And then we learned this was a real thing, not a hack, and was sold for $200... which is $450 today. We were blown away -- something THIS bad for THAT much money?!
It's a VERY unfortunate aspect of the gaming market. The worse something is, the more the cost goes up. And to make matters worse, good luck finding an action 52 on the NES that works!
Wow my local mom and pop video rental store carried that cart! Hard to fathom them renting something that expensive out like a normal game it was absolute trash too.
I wonder...was it actually sold for $200 at the time, or was that just the MSRP on paper? Action 52 wasn't sold by major retailers, and the mom and pop store at the flea market could sell it for whatever they could get for it. If they got them for $30 they could have sold them for $60 and poor suckers buying it could have thought that was a great deal because the box said it was worth $200.
@themidcentrist I have no clue. Msrp is what the manufacturer suggests you sell it as right? I'm sure the markups happened often. It's definitely not worth $2 much less $200!
@@Fortefyre MSRP is indeed the price the manufacturer suggests that the retailer sells the item for, but it is almost always inflated so that the retailer can give the customer a "discount" to make them feel like they got a good deal. Video game hardware and newly released games are an exception and usually start out being sold for MSRP, but that probably wouldn't be the case for unlicensed crap like Action 52
So many good games on this list. Your mistake was assuming the NES library would be a walk in the park. Hard games doesn't automatically mean a bad game. And there a tons more that are even more difficult than these. I mean good luck with Robocop..
I think at some point, games that become a chore irritate me. But hey, it's an editorial opinion. You'll hate me when I say Hydlide was fun to me haha.
Yeah I don't judge you mate. I've tried to do a complete-em-all but I managed about 20. 3d world runner was fun but the last stages broke me. And that music....
I love videos like this. It's fun to hear other people's opinions on games. I disagree on mm6, strider and 3D world runner, but at the same time, I completely see why you would feel that way. Interesting to discuss no doubt
I was expecting you to go easy route and say games like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, Wally Bear And The No! Gang, Action 52 or Ghostbusters. But you made your own list avoiding the obvious answers, I respect that.
Well one good thing about me, is that I do check out EVERY game ever, but I do it in the order of release (especially for franchises) to explore the evolution of video gaming. Because of that, many of the "obvious" bad ones, I haven't even played yet! It's exciting to appreciate the growth of gaming through the years from a fresh perspective.
i dont know why the nes version of ghostbusters sucks so much. i played the sms version and it was legit a pretty good game.....i didnt enjoy the nes version at all....
Not Mega Man 6! Although I will say it was pretty mid, imho. I feel like it's a product of the sequel fatigue that Mega Man was starting to get up to, and I feel like they should have used 6 to innovate on SNES. 7 is a beloved entry.
Hardly disagree on Mega Man 6. It does look like another Mega Man game compared to the previous titles. But it isn't always an bad thing and IMO; Mega Man 6 is the most polished & well balanced Mega Man game on the NES. It had great level designs, unique robot masters, great and balanced weapons, the multiple path for the levels was niche, the Rush Adapters are an great addition & fun to mess around with and the game feels more tolerable than the previous ones in terms of difficulty and construction. There isn't any cheap or obnoxious moments that previous Mega Man games have and the way it's design is alot more interesting and fun. Yeah. The game maybe easy. But so was Mega Man 5 and that game was more dull because it didn't do anything special nor it didn't do anything at all. Mega Man 6 tries something at least and I think it pay off. And it was an solid finale for the NES. The game being easy doesn't always mean it's bad as long as the quality and construction of the game is well done and MM6 does just that. No offense my dude. But your wrong.
I don't agree at all with Mega Man 6 being thrown in the same pile as Dirty Harry, a game the Nerd made an episode on. I've played all the Mega Man games, and I can't even say the first one was bad enough to be thrown on a list like this. If anything, I loved 3-6, and thought 2 was a great game, as well. My 2 cents.
Road Fighter was a fairly popular arcade classic. The NES version was an accurate conversion, but not a North American release. It's also one of their oldest home games. Not for everyone I suppose, but I dig it. I have the Konami compilation version for both PS1 and arcade PCB.
Super Pitfall. The way you progress through the game is nonsensical and impossible to figure out unless you’re told. At one point you have to go through a portal by jumping into a vulture. It’s full of glitches. The opponents and backgrounds are repetitive and boring. You have a gun that can’t be aimed and only shoots horizontally. The bullets go over the spiders, which are everywhere, and are useless against them. It will throw you into clinical depression.
At 2:20 Game Grumps made a beautiful music animated piece with this.. ♥ For Megaman 6, so it's only good for the story? At 4:13 Game Grumps played it, and it was a glitch fest 😂 For Strider, I never played or seen the arcade, and I had fun with the NES version..
I actually enjoyed Strider on NES. The wall jumping mechanic is a mess, but with enough practice you can figure it out. I honestly had more trouble mastering the Super Metroid wall jump than the NES Strider and found Super Metroid much more frustrating to play overall. I know I'm a big outlier on this. Maybe because I actually played lots of hours of Strider as a kid, but despite getting an SNES in 1993, I never played Super Metroid until 2008.
@@DarthcrackbabY You are correct! The manga was written by Tatsumi Wada, which was published in a manga anthology. The NES version is based on the manga.
I agree Strider was a fun but difficult game for its time. Definitely a unique platformer with an actual story and interesting yet frustrating wall jump mechanic.
Cranky Kong, "When I was coming up, we played games that we're only one screen." And that's where it starts. So if you're making a game, start there. And work you're way up from there as you develop comfort with your game engine (may take a couple years for that). Don't try and zoom in and zoom out and flip camera, well you can start there if you want. But no, I mean, keep it simple and see how far you can take it I guess. You throw in another repeat loop somewhere and the game completely crashes. Keep back ups for new repeat loops that can you know?
Road Fighter is an early Famicom game which for some strange reason was released in the PAL region in 1991. It's pretty fun for an early title when you know how to recover from collisions. 3D World Runner, man that game gets frustrating at hell and the music will drive you insane. Mega Man 6. Well it's still a Mega Man game and I like it more than 5. BTW, Platoon was by Ocean. Don't know if Sunsoft developed the NES port beside publishing it.
keep playing crappy games. Keep doing it. The reason I say that, is sometimes you find a hidden gimmick or mechanic in this game. A game, that otherwise is 'crappy', but you found some hidden gem there. Obviously, if you're looking for creative sources... you can't go wrong getting inspiration from Nintendo. But sometimes, these games come up with something truly creative that you don't see anywhere else. It could plant the seed for your next great game?
Blaster Master is probably my third favorite NES game of all-time...just behind Mega Man 2 and 3. I grew up playing this game as a 7 year old shortly after it came out and, despite how frustrated I was with it as a youngster, it's now one of my all-time favs. So far ahead of its time and worlds better than Metroid (yep...I said it).
Blaster Master has got to be my #1 Sunsoft game but I LOVE so many of their other games. Batman rocks, Journey to Silius is fantastic, and Super Spy Hunter is such a hidden gem. I don't care what anyone else says either...but I love Fester's Quest. It's a great game once you know what to do...like so many other NES games. I laughed when I saw Platoon on this list though. Because it's awful and it wasn't even developed by Sunsoft so there you go! ;)
I had Dirty Harry on my NES. It was the result of being in an Anchorage video game store in 1998, when the place offered a guy $5 for 50-55 games, I immediately offered $10. Most 80s action movie games on the NES are trash. Predator, Total Recall... I think a lot of the games on your list deserve a try (especially MM6), but agree with you 100% on Dirty Harry.
MM6 was a rough time for me in the overall scope of the franchise. It's a fan service title, that Capcom didn't want to publish outside of Japan. Nintendo ended up publishing it on the NES and doesn't mention Capcom at all, it was also one of the final 10 NES games!
I STRONGLY disagree with 3-D Worldrunner, and Strider being on this list as they're two games I owned and actually enjoyed quite a lot.... but how DARE you put Mega Man 6 on here? That's what turns this from a disappointing video into an AWFUL video, worthy of a dislike, so that's what i'm giving it.
Thank you for your input, and thank you even more for being the FIRST dislike in over 10K views on this video. I know this probably wasn't the outcome you expected, but the negative criticism is even more important to me than the good criticism. I hope you do stick around to check out some of the other videos I make, such as the Generations videos, they cover all consoles during each generation of video gaming.
MM5 is easily a top 20 NES game, creatively lazy or not. Strider is alright and obviously not a port, IIRC there is a hack that fixes the crappy wall jump. Continuous enemy respawn is also standard on the NES.
1. Probably would have been worth mentioning that road fighter was only released in japan and europe. 2. Outrun did not come out for NES. 3. You that in road fighter that the game is so fast you cant avoid obstacles, yet you hit no obstacles in your gameplay footage. 4. You say most nes racing games were Isometric, and games with behind the car perspectives are "outliers". Incorrect. By my count there are 30 North American NES racing games that fall into 8 sub categories based on perspective. 10 are played from behind the car, 5 are isometric. Here is the complete breakdown: Behind: 10- al unser, days of thunder, Ferrari, formula one, knight rider, Mach rider, mario Andretti, rad racer, rad racer 2, roadblasters In car: 3-knight rider, bill elliot, Nigel mansell, Side: 2-excitebike, stunt kids Single screen: 4- off road, Danny Sullivan, super sprint, BMX simulator(Quattro sports) Isometric: 5- rc pro am, rc pro am 2, galaxy 5000, marble madness, cobra triangle Overhead: 4- bump n jump, micro machines , rally bike, super cars Overhead/behind: 1-eliminator boat duel Overhead/side: 1-bigfoot Overhead/side/behind: 1-race america
This is a great breakdown and I appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I do implement European releases in my NES videos, because the NES was also the name of the console in Europe, although the European NES variance is slightly smaller. I didn't record enough footage to capture all the obstacles or cars that were in the way. This was the first time I did this video, so mistakes are always made :)
I know I’m a bit late, but I have fond memories of hating “Hudson Hawk” on NES. I played it when I was a kid because my grandma bought it for me. So I went and found it as an adult to see if it was just too hard when I was little. Boy was I mistaken. It’s just terrible 😅
I'm sorry, but Mega Man 6 doesn't belong anywhere on or near a list with Platoon, 10-Yard Fight, Bible Adventures, etc. Thumbs down. 😮 It's my favorite NES Mega Man! Ok the formula is well worn at that point, but it's still an excellent title. Great video as usual, I just don't agree on some of your views, that's all.
Gonna disagree with you on Strider and ESPECIALLY on Mega Man 6. I enjoyed them both. I mean you could have gone with Friday The 13th, or Back to the Future, or Who Framed Roger Rabbit just to name a few....
I’m happy to finally see someone else touch on Platoon. It was one of those games that I inexplicably owned, and on top of being shit, I couldn’t understand why anyone would think kids would want to play a game with such dark subject matter. Maybe next time we can play a game where you watch your grandmother die of Leukemia?
Load up some Wall Street Kid and get ready for fun. I got that for Christmas one year in actual lieu of River City fucking Ransom because my parents decided it was more educational. Oof, right in the childhood. Not that word-driven strategy sims are bad in themselves. Ghengis Kahn was easily in my top 10 (but probably wouldn't hold up today). Robin Hood Prince of Thieves was pretty exceptional, rented that one almost as much as Maniac Mansion (Don't pick Jeff, he sucks). RCR is my SMB3, though, as far as I'm concerned. Now give me my free smile!
"Deep throat a curling iron" ROFLMAO I am going to remember that one. My list would contain Journey to Silius. It has some of the best music on the NES, the graphics are very good, but IMO it is ruined by your character running and jumping very sluggishly and feeling like he is not up to the challenge of what you encounter. It's like trying to play Contra as Simon Belmont. I think Sunsoft did this to disguise that fact that it is a short game.
3D world runner was pretty terrible overall as a game. If you had 3D glasses it made for a neat little gimmick, but you’re better off playing rad racer instead. Mega man 6, have to agree. It had certain power ups that I WISH megaman 3 had, because of how balls hard it was. It was just completely forgettable, i think the music had a big part of this. I remember playing strider and i had to mess with my NES multiple times because i thought it was shitting itself only to find out it was just shitting itself and glitching out “by design”. Never was able to beat the game because i literally got stuck and couldn’t progress forward. Went around in circles for an hour or so.
There is a lot to recommend about megaman 6 and a lot to say "yeah not so hot." Pros include different paths to the robot bossed, a less insanely powerful BEAT that's easier to get and the best graphics of the series for Nes. Cons: it felt rushed. Get the last nes game out before its too late. If 5 was too hard 6 was too easy. Would I pay what original cartridges are running now? No. Is it a fine game to get on the switch? Yes. But while your criticisms are fair I would look at silver surfer or festers quest or something before I included the blue bomber. And if I did 5 would be my "leave it be" pick. And this from someone who ground on 5 till it was beaten.
So the reason I didn't include them, is because I haven't played them. Most of the games I've played, were viewer requests on Twitch. I don't regurgitate lists like other commentary youtubers, so there's many I haven't checked out. I actually enjoyed Fester's Quest lmao, I used a NES Advantage though.
Renagade definitely sucks. When i first got it i was pumped to play it. But you can barely even hit enemys. As far as double dragon. Honestly I'm not sure why the double dragon series gets way more love than River City ransom. The ability to go wherever you want in the game, build your character, the excellent control response, and different fighting techniques available make river city ransome far better than all the double dragon titles on the NES. Double dragon is however have a arcade game.
About your mega Man 6 insert, I agree that mega Man x was awesome however mega Man 7 was a burning trash heap compared to mega Man 6. Of course this is only my opinion and just like yourself as a content reader, you are perfectly okay with getting a free comment from someone explaining why somebody else is wrong. I'm enjoying your contact, keep going.
I have always been told Dirty Henry was a bad game on the Nes but I never knew that they purposely soft locked you. I’m glad I never had a chance to play it because it would have been in plastic pieces, lol
Oh they don't just soft lock you, the room he's talking about? One of the walls has a big HAHAHA! So they're mocking you too. And the stages are way too long and sprawling.
Sunsoft games tend to be hit and miss with me. I disagree with you on Blaster Master but will agree with you on Fester's Quest as that game made no sense and would sometimes crash when walking into buildings. Mindscape did make some classic games however... just, on the Commodore and not the NES.
Hey now, Strider was a fantastic game for the NES, and one of the few you touched on that I owned. I replayed it over and over! Admittedly it's better compared to an early Metroidvania than anything else. It was only related to the arcade by name only. Kinda like the equally fantastic Bionic Commando.
i remeber once the nes hit 99$ new there was a ton of shovelware and it just steadly became worse ...... althougk akklaim and bandai and others didnt help ........before the snes came out my blockbuster quit getting nes games to rent becuase they were so horrible people wanted refunds so you could bring the game back and et a diffrent one up to 4 hours after you rented it
Dragon’s Lair is utter garbage on the NES. Dirk’s sprite is very large on the screen, thus giving him a large hit box, which is a big problem when many of the enemies kill you in one hit, and the jumps are clunky as I’ll get out. Don’t say I didn’t warn you if you do decide to try it. If you get a chance to try the SNES version, on the other hand, that one is playable at least.
I like your video and when you express your own feelings about the games even if I disagree or become confused but that is only opinion based of course from my side, I value your opinion. Just a curious question about Mega Man 6 what made it not funny if we go very deep into the game overall, I only played Mega Man 1 & Mega Man X so far.
Mega Man 6 was...outdated from the day it was released. That's the only big thing, it felt way to easy, like there weren't any major changes. It was a stark difference from 5 to 6.
Fortunately my personal collection does not include too many lemons so I utilize these videos when window shopping. With retro prices increasing some of these shit games are selling for over $20!!
Little confused on why stealth atf, 3d world runner, and Megaman 6 are on here rather than Hydlide, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, Back to the Future, or Bill and Ted's Excellent Video Game Adventure.... but I guess it's you're opinion and i do agree with a bulk of your list. Shame if the triangle jump and controls were tight, Strider would be an alright game.
There's a few reasons 1. I play games in the order of release and at the behest of my subscribers. It's one of my sub benefits on Twitch. I'm personally aware of those games, thanks to AVGN many years ago, but I haven't played it myself. 2. I try to play games on true hardware, so if I don't own it, I don't tend to play it. It's a strange combination of the two, I assure you, it'll come up soon lol. I actually LOVE Hydlide, and that's only because I was put into the patience of ARPGs by Ys.
@Fortefyre went through Hydlide all the way and if I'd play it again I would probably try the computer version and I would definitely play it over the Karate Kid or Deadly Towers or even Super Pitfall. With most games I try, if they have broken controls or crap hit detection etc... that's when i bring out the Game Genie and find it more fun, amusing, or by doing so make it more playable for myself and some I actually appreciate more or see what the developer was trying to do. In some case's some of these developers were way ahead of their time in thinking and failed miserably trying to implement some mechanic into the game in turn which "ruined it" or made it a "bad" game".
@@FortefyreI implore you not to risk your sanity by playing any of those games, but if you must read the directions before playing Jekyll and hyde and go into it with an open mind. Some people enjoy it in a "so bad it's good" kind of way.
I agree with your video, for the most part, with the exception of Mega Man 6, as I feel that Mickey Mousecapades would have been a better choice for this video.
These are just 10 games at random based on what I've played. I play games in the order of release, and mostly on the suggestion of my subscribers on Twitch, I carry a little backlog. Currently I'm working on the entire Konami library, and I've made it to 1988!
I'm not going to lie I can agree with you on the Mega Man 6 take it is very easy and the Robot Masters aren't even difficult at all compared to the other mega man games on the nes the only thing that's really difficult about it is the level layouts especially on Plant Mans stage as far as that it's one of the easiest Mega Man games ever and the Robot Masters and the bosses aren't even that hard
I know! But there's a reason I haven't. I play games in order of release, so I played the 3 titles that came out before Sunsoft's Batman. If I recall, I want to say it's coming up on my stream soonish.
u should've placed the NES port of Double Dragon 3 instead of Renegade tbh, that game was not only bad, it was also as disappointing as the arcade game
Double Dragon 3 is my next Double Dragon. I played renegade because of a special event on my stream, and because it's the first game in the Kunio-Kun franchise.
Lmao Ninja Gaiden is thee game for NES. Grow some and use that muscle memory...oh and use nintendo power...thats how early nes games were marketed to complete.
3D World Runner is perfectly OK to waste 15 minutes. Mega Man 6 is great, you gotta be crazy to say it's not good. It's definitely the most refined out of all of them on NES. I imagine that anyone that likes Mega Man would like it roughly as much as the others.
@@Fortefyre my only goal in life is to change your mind about 3D WorldRunner. All it's going to take is you playing it every morning at 6:30am for the next 60 days.
Had this on as a background. When I heard Blizzard Man's stage theme and realized you were about to s%%% on a Mega Man game, I literally exclaimed "F%%% YOU." Hearing the rest of the argument, I was like "lead with that instead; since even a C or D tier Mega Man game is, in reality, a B-tier game at actual worst..."
Capcom held boss design contests for MM 2-8, so those are all fan made bosses that were refined by the design team. MM6's Knight Man and Wind Man were the only non-Japanese winners. MM8 only had Sword Man, Clown Man and Search Man designed by fans; Capcom designers made the other bosses.
Batman on the NES was hard as shit. Think Ninja Gaiden very unforgiving I managed to beat it when I was 14 without any kind of cheats. Great cut scene ending. If you liked Double Dragon 2, or the Ninja Gaiden series you'll like the NES Batman just prepare yourself to die a lot on the higher stages. It was probably the best movie based game on the NES.
I think it is only 5 or 6 stages but those stages are tough as nails making it to the boss with life is the hardest part because if your life bar is really low might as well die and start again. @@Fortefyre
My Top 10 List 1. Mike Tyson's Punch Out 2. Battletoads 3. Contra 4. Double Dragon II The Revenge 5. River City Ransom 6. The Legend of Zelda 7. Ninja Gaiden II 8. TMNT II The Arcade Game 9. Ice Climber 10. Excitebike *NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER* 🤘
The NES version of TMNT 2 is a better effort than all of those old computer ports. The only other official version that's better is the arcade release. The NES versions of Double Dragon 2, Contra, and Punch-Out are better than the original arcade. You especially wouldn't like arcade Contra.
The worst games I played on NES was Frankenstein:the Monster Return,Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde,Top Gun 2,Knight Rider,Contra Force,and Stinger. All wasted money I regret spending on such trash.
@@Fortefyre The thing about TwinBee(Stinger) was that the whimsical graphics and storyline tricked you into thinking they're an easier game for younger children. Yet they were as hard to play as Gradius games.
Only 925 subscribers because you use curse words. People would love to share reviews of these games with their children/ grandchildren but not with you dropping f-Bombs. Just some friendly advice
I understand, but you need to also understand, my audience is 18+, and my content is marked as not safe for children. I would rather have parents simply play those games with their kids, instead of watching my videos with their kids. I'm also a military veteran of 11 years. It's not just something I can turn off, I'm hard-wired to do it now.
@@BigEd773 Thank YOU for taking the time to comment. Sometimes being told "you're being vulgar" is a hard pill to swallow, and I am trying to minimalize that, but it's negative criticism like yours that is viewed as constructive, and I not only accept it, but I do hope that you find my content entertaining and continue to check out my work :)
