I swear trends drive prices up. The OG hoya heads are the ones really hurt by these prices. I know I am 🥺😭 I love this video, Your realness is what keeps me coming back to your channel . People panic because they just paid rent or mortgage money on a cutting of carnosa lol
Finally, someone else who doesn't like the compacta 😅. I'm much too practical for that twisted variety. I always think about pest nightmares on that plant🕷🐜
Plus it's really and truly the epitome of man-made ugly pride. The Shar-Pei dogs of the Hoya world, they seem to have been overbred for one purpose only; to bring more suffering to the world - both for being tortured creatures and in the eyes of the beholder!
I feel towards Hoya retusa as you feel about Hoya compacta. Except I also feel that way about Hoya compacta. Also I agree about Hoya serpens. I really did my best and it never did well, even in high humidity. I would only buy it again if I could keep it in a large cloche or terrarium. I loved that at the end of this, you brought attention to how many things you could buy with that money besides plants that are susceptible to dying from numerous ailments.
You will never forgive me for loving Hoya retusa and sending you that pic once, will you? 😂 I really don't like most of the Hoyas from this list. And I certainly wouldn't buy them at those prices. But hey, who asked me? I have serpens in cloche now, but it's too small. SH helps, so we will see. I won't buy one again if it dies, let alone for $100. And I agree. You could buy the entire setup - decent camera, decent lights, probably editing software, some external hard drives and have money left for Roquefort cheese.
I actually tried one in a terrarium. Nope, did NOT like that. So, growing in a pot under lights, 6-70% humidity. It's my room. In the summer it can get up to 85-90* in here, but in winter, I am keeping it wound 72-75*. Which is way too warm for me, but anything for my cheap hoya. Hopefully, they will all live and thrive. If not, well, I did not pay those kinds of prices for them!
@@bonnieharris8855 I am actually keeping my serpens right now under a glass cloche, but it's a bit too small. I think I need a bigger one. It's growing roots all over the place!
Nope. I just don't get it 😂 I bought mine because I had 2 hoyas at that time and it was the first time I saw it being sold. You know, kinda that FOMO moment.
@@BasiePlants :D I still don't know why people are so obsessed with them :D I look at them I feel so uncomfortable. Why would a plant curl its leaves in such an uncomfortable position. its like with all the bulldog breeds - they have hard time breathing :D so I get the same vibe from c.compacta :D
I just have a Hoya Crimson Queen. It's my first Hoya and to be honest I do really love it, but I wouldn't go out my way to find rare and different varieties of them just because I love them. Love how they grow, but I don't want every variety out there. Being content to me has become more important than having many plants that I can't take care of correctly. Just trying to appreciate the plants I have and celebrating the growth they have. It's actually helped a lot and when I see a new plant I don't feel like i need to buy it or want it.
Great video !! I think all plants are being overpriced right now because that’s what trending, once the trend starts to fade away people will regret paying those crazy prices for those “rare” plants
I just wonder when will that happen. It doesn't seem it will be anytime soon. Just as I think this is it, the price can't go absolutely higher than this, it does 😂
I've had a carnosa and pubicalyx for probably just over 5 years and they are so easy to care for that I recently started picking up a few more. I bought a wayetii and sigilatis a few weeks ago and picked up a crassiopetulata cutting today from someone that posted them for $10 on Facebook marketplace. She showed me her huge collection of plants and told me she had some other cuttings and she wanted to give me one and it was a Hoya AH074. I knew nothing about the plant and have limited space, but I thought that her giving me a free cutting in addition to the one I was buying was such a nice gesture that I took her up on the offer. I didn't realize it was an expensive plant. 😯
Happy New Year, Miro! Love your overpriced Hoya video 😁 Please keep making videos in 2021 and I hope that Hoya prices come down, but I’m not holding my breath. So far I have not killed any Hoya plants, but would be concerned about buying only one node too. I have lost other plants in 2020.
I am also not holding my breath for that. I am glad you are keeping your hoyas alive. I am sorry about other plants though. I lost some this year too. Happy New Year to you as well and I will definitely make videos in 2021 as well :)
You are so entertaining to watch and listen too, and, you’re so right on these plants. And now they’ve doubled in price because people are actually paying the prices. Who would have thought!!!! ❤️
unfortunately as a grower and a reseller, my prices have double and tripled since covid. The main growers are taking advantage of this rise in plant popularity. Reminds me of the tickle me Elmo from 1996!
Omg I just discovered you in my suggested and you are hilarious! I completely agree with you though, the prices are ridiculous! They’re even worse in the US. A cutting of grey ghost is easily $200-with no roots 🤦🏼♀️ like no ma’am. Plants should not cost as much as your mortgage or rent
Oh yes! And serpens is crazy expensive there. I saw some ridiculous prices in the US and I was floored. Couldn't get up for days. True story 😂 But they are even worse in Australia now.
@@BasiePlants for 2 nodes of Serpens it’s around $80. One of my friends sent me a cutting of hers for free. They grow so fast it’s appalling how much people charge
Thanks for another great video. I absolutely love your content. I have one of these overpriced silver hoyas, and the price has more than doubled since I got it in the spring. I don't regret getting it. But my regular old pubicalyx has incredible silver markings, which is equally beautiful and cost me only $12.00 (USD).
Which one do you have? 🙂 Hey, I also have the undulata, and love it to death. But if I was looking at prices now, I would probably skip it. The price went up crazy in the last 2 months. I also have nice and splashy pubicalyx that I like so that will have to do in terms of silver for me.
I don't understand why you dislike Hoya Carnosas so much. I have a huge one. I grew it from a one leaf cutting and have had it for about 11 years now. I love it and it flowers regularly and does not need much attention at all. If you let the strings go wild and do their own thing they will grow bushy and beautiful. I never took cuttings from it except for once after a move when a few strings got damaged and needed to be removed. The vines are about 2m long and I am very, very proud of this plant. I am trying to grow other kinds of Hoya now :)
I don't dislike carnosa at all. I dislike the hype around silver carnosas and the crazy prices. Since I made this video, the price for a cutting of Jody's silver jumped to $2500.
Hi Happy New Year! I just found your video. I agree with you on not paying the high prices for a tiny cutting that might not live. I’m not into the rare or expensive plants. I find the more common ones do not stress me out and I enjoy them. I am just getting into wanting a few Hoya’s. I have been adding plants to my home in California USA since 2012. The most I have ever paid for a full large plant was $32.00 US dollars. Thank you for stating fact the plant prices have gotten too expensive.
Some prices are justified, but in my opinion none of these are. And I also don't think we should own every plant under the sun. Especially rare ones. There are people who are true collectors, but I think a lot of people have these 'rare' plants just because they can.
I collect hoyas as a hobby. In Poland, some varieties cost a lot. Often these are unstable varieties that regress if not properly maintained. Fortunately, I was able to buy cheap beautiful species such as h. davidcummungii, h. incrassata, h. diptera. For me phenomenally bloom and are undervalued. :)
I was skeptical clicking on this because in my mind, if you like it, want it, and buy it. Whatever. People spend money on worse. But, the farther you got down your list, the more shocked and appalled I became 🤣
I do agree, your money, you can spend it on whatever you want. Some hoyas in this video are far more expensive. The silver compacta, for example, is $2500 for one node now :) I think it is not the worst thing for people to know that in 2019, before hoyas got some major attention, this Hoya was $200 per cutting. :D
@@BasiePlants Great video 😀 Plant prices are super crazy, you can buy a full grown adult, flowering sized, healthy, relatively rare orchid species for £20-£30, I don't get it 🤷♀️ also, I'm with you on species vs colour forms. Species are so much more interesting.
I think so too! I did forget to mention that plant community kinda goes through these craze periods. I mean, collecting orchids was an extreme sport once.
Miro, can I just say it's liberating to hear from another hoya lover that they don't like Compacta. I have never really liked it, and I just don't understand why so many people are in love with it. I do like Grey Ghost and AH074 but I would not pay a crazy price for either of them. For Wilbur Graves I've seen and heard a lot of things about it that make me think that it's possibly a scam. I have seen several that start with that beautiful variegation and then revert to very little or no splash. Others say it needs special LED lights to keep the splash. I'm not enough in love with it to spend money on that one. I'd prefer a Pubicalix Splash, or something else. My favourite hoya purchase so far has been Callistophylla and I got it early enough that it wasn't overpriced, and the cutting I bought had 7 leaves, with multiple nodes.
I honestly bought my compacta because that was the first time I saw it offered for sale. So it was one of those FOMO moments. But I dislike them. I wouldn't pay that money for AH074, Grey Ghost or Wilbur Graves either. Yes, splash can increase/ decrease in relation to the light and more consistent light will give you better splash = LED light. I love calistophylla! It is one of my favorites. Now, that's a stunner.
I mean... I wouldn't even pay 100€ for a plant lmao. I can't understand how a single node can cost 300€+, it's insane to me. They're plants!! Jesus Christ. I think I'd understand these prices better if they sold big plants for that price, you know?
I would definitely not pay 100 euros for a cutting. It's just not for me. Maybe that price is realistic for some (certainly not these as it increased greately over time for some of them), and if a plant is more than 100 euros... Well, maybe it just is not a plant for me. 🤷🏻♂️
Hi Miro, from Bucharest! I totally agree with you! Hoyas prices go crazy. I' ve read about compacta sold in Australia at 6500 AUD. In my view compacta is prone to have mealy bugs. Keep learning us in a very pleasant way! The best hoyas school in Europe is yours! Sincere and very informative-intuitive.
I saw some Australian prices couple of days ago and I can't believe how much they are asking! It is outrages. Hoya australis ssp. tenuipes 'Lisa' for $600 AUD? That plant is 5 euros in Euope. My compacta only now got mealybugs after year or so of having it. I really don't love it anyways. Thank you! 💚
So…, I’m late here. But! I fully agree with you on any compacta. I never had one and never will. I saw Betsy’s comment and I tried retusa briefly once but no… I don’t think will go there again (even if that no is not as firm as it is for compacta 😅). Where I don’t agree is the carnosa ‘Argentea’. Have you seen that one IRL? It’s spectacular! ✨
That sounds like a good idea! I don't know the prices for all of them as some were received in a bundle, and they changed a lot. But it could be good to compare them to what they were and to how much they cost now.
Undulata is fairly cheap here maybe because it's our native plant 😅nurseries here also propagate undulata like crazy since the price is slowly increasing in domestic market (and surely way more expensive when it comes to export). but well rooted plant with 1 node 2 leaves normally costs less than 15 usd.
You're right on the money (pun intended). Prices for these plants have gone astronomical. Until people stop paying these ridiculous prices the prices will continue to increase. It's all about supply and demand. Once the demand stops, sellers, in order to get rid of their inventory, will be forced to reduce the price, thereby driving prices down, either that or be left with excess inventory. Unfortunately, people being greedy and having the "I have to have it mentality" will continue to pay these outrageous prices. I saw an auction the other day. The seller said bidding starts at $20 - the first bid on the page, the very first one, from someone who "had to have it" bid $125! They didn't win, nor even come close as other bidders continued to drive prices up exponentially. It was very disheartening to see this. So - you are 100% correct - many hoyas are waaaayyy over priced. I couldn't agree with you more. Have a great new year and I wish you the best of luck in the coming year, and look forward to seeing more of your videos.
It is really becoming crazy. And yes - I was thinking the same. We should ALL stop buying these plants and the prices will come down. But of course, not everyone will do that. There will always be people who will think "Oh now there is less demand so I can actually get that plant" and they will still buy it. I think we will see some price increase in the next year as well.
I startet with compacta and i love it. Looks like a mad medusa to me. The sad thing about ghost/silver/variegated plants is, that they are not stable :/ I love your sarcasm btw xD
Ghost are unstable anyways. Sometimes you see them, sometimes you don't. 😂 I am glad you do! :) I am still unsure about the compactas. Regular one included. 👀
And I’m crying every time someone buys a wet stick for 50 or 70 eur… I saw offers with grey ghost for 50-70 in early 2022, so probably prices are going down again 😆
I think you should wait a bit more for Grey Ghost :) I would give perhaps 30 euros for it :) Now, Nova Ghost, and others are a different story. I don't think those will come down in prices any time soon.
@@BasiePlants I have a rule- not paying more that 25 eur for plant- exempt it’s something soo huge, beautiful and beyond say no. One leaf cutting for even a hoya- big no no😀 (because I can spend it at least on 3 Hoya cuttings))
Well, this was recorded over 2 years ago. Prices have changed since then :) Most of these prices for these hoyas were actually pretty standard in the US, some were even much more expensive in the US than what I said in the video.
Hoyas like Wilbur Graves do produce more silver under constant, even light, such as LED light. So it can vary greately. I am not sure what causes the silver in Grey Ghost, but it is an interesting topic for research.
Pretty sure I could fit a top quality sewing machine, a laptop, a tablet, and a projector in that budget, and maybe even spare some. I truly love hoyas but this is just madness. PS I heard H. Polyneura is also very expensive in the US, but I find it inexpensive here in Belgium.
Oh yes! Hoya polyneura goes for $30 or more for a cutting in the US. It's crazy, it's nowhere near that in EU. I like that you would buy a sewing machine. You can make clothes for yourself in the zombie apocalypse. That is the most useful thing.
Great video idea, we need to share this to help others out 💪 Those who throw shade should also be spilling tea 😉 I was hoping for the Undulata price! Transparency will help all of us 🌈 but it is your decision ofc! I saw an Undulata cutting yesterday and it was 175 euros. 😱
Lol in my area, there are a lot of people who propagate these rare hoyas and sell them on facebook marketplace for high amounts of $, I think some do it for a living, but to see a picture of a plant with one leaf in a little plastic cup for $300 is ridiculous.
Wow I just purchased a small Hoya Mathilde Splash for $20 Aus dollers in Australia which isn't bad as I've heard it's fast grower so in theory, my plant will get to a decent size in the next year.
Im not into hoya compacta as well 🙈 with 3k euros I would save it and probably go on a trip to Japan or something when the whole global situation is over.
😂 Well, that is good for you! You got them when the prices were good :D I mean, even AH074 was quite reasonably priced not so long ago. But alas, the market changes, apparently with every minute.
As always an entertaining video! Honestly what's with those prices!? I personally, don't care for all the Hoyas on this list. I also prefer the colour green over silver. There are so many other beautiful Hoyas out there that aren't as pricey. Unfortunately, prices of Hoyas are going up. :(
I know! The prices are crazy! I would rather rent an apartment in NYC, thank you very much. Well, maybe not there, as it could probably give me several months of rent in some other places. I love just "normal" hoyas. Green leaf and all that plain stuff. I agree, there are so many hoyas out there that are not pricey, but I think those will be pricier soon as well, unfortunately.
@@BasiePlants ok. TYSM for your precious time and suggestions. I was told to keep in shade. And so did I. And already one leaf lost the splash. Will put it back in sun in the west side of my house.
Honest! 😂 I could never be mean 👀 Well, I wouldn't want other hoyas to have higher price, so I am glad it's only for the silver ones. They can have those.
Not very exciting but if I had the $3,000 I would pay for the new garage door that I just ordered. Miro, I always enjoy watching your videos. You are absolutely adorable and pleasant. 🤗
That is still a good and very useful way to spend that money. Certainly better than plants (which I do love to death). Thank you Ava, glad you're having a good time 💚
Me watching this while i just bought a hoya Nicholsoniae New Guinea Ghost😂. I paid 90€ for 4 leaves, its my early birthday present. Its supposed to arrive tomorrow i am scared 😅
Yikes. I’m too cheap for this ish. I often wonder how many carnosas people can have. Silver hoyas are gorg, don’t get me wrong. But I would rather have MOAR HOYA than pay so much for one. The video game sound gave me life btw. Am I done commenting? Maybe, maybe not 😂
With so many people selling Hoyas on FB, Etsy, eBay, and other sites, at some point the market will be flooded, the plant hoarding frenzy will stop and these exorbitant prices will start to drop.
Yes, that is true. The questions is, when will that happen? And will people who purchase a cutting for $100 later sell it for $20? Who knows. I think we are still going to see some increase in prices.