@Opaz Finally made the F1 system purchase. So far, very nice, loud, and clear system. I'm very satisfied with my purchase. I didn't bother with the 8, 16, or 32 because I already knew from an SPL perspective, the F1 system was superior. It's unfortunate that the 32 didn't live up to your expectations. Here in the US, the F1 system is cheaper than the 32 at $2k per stack. While the F1 might be a bit heavier than the 32, I am still able to put it together and tear it down with no help.
@@TheDj8X I got rid of my F1/ 812 system and bought Evolve 50's. I know own 4 and two 1200 watt 12 inch subs if I really want extra bottom end. For the price, you can't beat the Evolve 50 IMO
I sold my Evolve 50's and purchased the L1 PRO 32 with Sub 2 (2 units) and let me tell you, it was the best decision I made, I love the sound and bass on these BOSE speakers, I get lots of compliments on the sound and people just keep staring at them like "Wow that's the sound that comes out of those things? " lol I'm extremely happy with my purchase and I would buy them again.
You're right. I also have 2 sets of L1 Pro 32- Sub2 They sound and look great, As for the bass - if you have the right mixer and some knowledge, you can easily deal with rumbling
They sound good but are way overpriced for what you get. It’s about the value you get at the end of the day. They could have been engineered a lot better to be honest. 3 grand and the controls on the floor don’t have covers ? Give me a break that’s one spilled drink recipe for disaster.
I love my L1 pro32, I run two of them with 2 sub2s or even with one or two more subs. I love the ease of setup. I’m sure other systems you mentioned are good too. To my ears the sound of L1 pro32 is unmatched sound quality. My ears are done with most other PA speakers.
One year later from this upload, I am reading in many comments that previous L1 system owners that now have the Pro32, prefer the sound quality of their older L1. The L1M2 especially. They agree the pro32 is louder but lacking in sound quality
@@opaz. I never had L1M2 so cannot compare but just this last weekend I used a pair of L1PRO32 for a 250 people event & multiple people came up to me and told me after the event that they really loved the sound quality. Some even took down the names of the system.
So I watched your video when you first unboxed the Bose pro32 sub2's shortly before I bought the Bose 32 sub2's. I've used the system at about 6 larger events (I DJ weddings) Your points are valid. It does not sound as good as the other L1 systems (I have owned them all) The system is MUCH MUCH LOUDER though. It WILL fill a large room with good sound. It WILL Cut through a crowd to the back of a packed dance floor, something other L1 systems could not do. I do high end weddings and it looks AWESOME. That is important to me (and to my clients and planners I work with). It's a BREEZE to set up! Almost as easy as my Evolve 50 speakers which I use most of the time. The subs are EASY to transport. I'm 60 and that is important..for a sub that size it puts out A LOT of bass. Is it the best bass? No, but my clients are not audiophiles. It booms and that's all they care about. Are they over priced? Yup, but there is nothing else like them and they work extremely well for the type of events I do. It took 3 weddings to pay for them both so the cost was not a major factor. No they are far from perfect. Would I buy them again if I had it to do all over again? I'm not sure..probably. I like your videos!
Cheers Mark, thanks for your very valuable comments, much appreciated. Unfortunately I may be selling mine, like you I also have an evolve so light and easy to set up (also not perfect but not 3k). Got a buyer for my 32's, seriously thinking about it 🤔
Hi Mark, Hello, I'm waiting until after the pandemic to start my wedding DJ career. With two Bose L1 Pro 32. I would like to know how you usually place them if your room is rectangular. Can you tell the maximum size of dance floor you would be comfortable with just the 2 of them ? Because they are so expensive, I'll get an idea of the maximum I can get out of them. For a restaurant with around thirty tables, just one would be plenty, I imagine. Many thanks in advance for your time to answer me.
As an owner of the original L1 and L1S models I noticed Bose has scaled back some of the high frequencies in the Pro series speakers. Will EQing handle this or no?
Ha! I love your comment about the covers. The L1M2’s came with more premium cases. The cases for the top and base are pretty good though where is the pocket for the cables? The Sub2 cover is a joke. The B1 and B2 came with a thicker waterproof cover that though isn’t padded still feels premium. Definitely right on the Sub2. It’s not matched well. Some songs it sounds amazing, others it’s muddy and doesn’t sound right. I think part of this is the smaller drivers. The columns don’t get as low as the M2. I think this is so they can get better mixing of two systems and get highs above 16kHz unlike the M2. Unfortunately that means the Sub 2 handles higher frequencies than the B1/B2 had to and is a bigger driver. I’m. It sold on the racetrack either. There is a reason speakers are round. The sub match cable seems to send very little info to the column. The app and dsp ability is severely lacking. No parametric eq? No options for one Sub2 vs 2? I know you’re against getting the T4S mixer but I’m sort of ok with it if it fixes the issues. Here’s the thing, the T4S works on the M2 and Pro series and doesn’t have different eq’s for each so it doesn’t change a thing. It gives you a one band parametric eq, but that’s not much. Except a few more outputs and another tone match port it’s the same mixer as the T1. Also none of the Tonematch scenes have been updated in 15 years, they’re the same ones on the T1 mixer I have and very few. Hope you have Taylor guitars and Audix mics.
I also sold my evo and purchased the Bose Pro 32 with the new sub and it has paid for itself !! I sold all of my QSC’s except 1 kw122.... it works for me!!!
I gather from most comments people seem to be DJs. I bought this from a singer and a 5 piece band perspective. I have used and heard many PAs. This one is good, lots of volume and clarity. Glad I bought the Tonematch along with it as amazing. Only negatives for me is the vulnerability of the design in wild drunken venues as the column wobbles when touched and the floor panel is easily splashed at floor level with drinks. If a sensible crowd and nice wedding and events this piece of equipment is brilliant as light weight and sounds amazing.
I am so happy that you addressed the low-mids. I noticed that with Bose. It’s all motifs, some highs and a ton of lows but what about the sort of lows? Non- existent.
I'm in a guitar/drums/bass/keys looping duo (rock and pop music) and I had a Bose F1/812 system up until about a month ago. I switched to a pair of L1 Pro32's and Sub1's, and I couldn't be more happy. I run the columns in stereo, and the subs stacked in mono, and this setup seems to be a perfect frequency match between lows and highs. I use the 'live' EQ setting, and I roll the hi EQ down one notch on the line input. I get punchy snares and kicks, and nicely rounded bass guitar. It's a much better system for what we do than the F1/812's mostly because of the way it fills the rooms we play. There's something about the columns that allow the music to be the same volume everywhere in the club, from one foot away to 30 feet away. The mix of frequencies stays the same as well. We set the system up behind us now, which allows us to hear in detail exactly what everyone else in the venue is hearing. I don't need my IEM's any longer, which is a sweet and welcomed change putting me much more in the room. When we used them in a place we play quite often for the first time, the staff was quick to point out what a sonic improvement there was. According to the specs, the L1 32 pro has the same SPL at 13ft as the F1/812, and less dB loss at 33 ft. It used to take four trips to get the F1/812 into the club, and now it's two, 90lbs less weight. Opaz, there are some good points in your video. Like the mixer on the floor really worries me. It does look like a pan for dirt and water to form. And 3000 dollars each was a huge investment to swallow for something that doesn't look like 3000 dollars worth of stuff. That sub cover too.... disappointing. However, with Bose, you're paying for R&D as well as the product. Sure, we can say that Behringer has a much cheaper version of this style of PA, but of course they do. Bose did all the work...
I went to a gig a couple of weeks ago, where the band had a stereo pair of F1/812 units (which they recently bought) and they nearly knocked me off my feet, quite literally! Thought they were a new thing, but then looking up on the Bose site, already about 7 years old. Is the L1 Pro series a replacement, or will there be a new breed of F1? Prefer the look of them to the more organic style of the L1, but that's just my taste. Would like a little more bottom end for the kick drum and 'floor' toms, so might add a Sub1 to my Pro8. The Behringer PAs we use as stage monitors (or the house PA) can't handle any bass, so I put my drums through the Pro8, and send the signal with low cut into the house PA. Works well.
@@PhatSimey I think on the sub bass side of things, the F1's clearly were more well suited. I see the the L1 Pro 32 a replacement in SPL, coverage and portability, but probably not for recreating the full bass range, although the Sub2's would probably be better for that than the Sub1's if that's what you're looking for. Still not missing my F1/812's, though.
@@toddmoore9138 Thinking the same about the F1 setup, but don't need that sort of grunt just yet. I play in a worship band (Roland V-Drums through the Pro8, volume at 12 o'clock and mids and highs also through the house PA is plenty), so stacking F1s on the stage might scare away the congregation- or blow them out of the doors! If I ever start gigging in pubs etc, might up my game then...
I bought the pro 32 got a deal for $1,200 thing sounds incredible definitely want another one for stereo… however my regular pa has more separation and depth, but I used the Bose tonight and it’s growing on me, and I use my own mixer …
Been using these since they came out.....they are amazing. Not sure what you are smoking......I get more compliments about my sound than I could ever ask for. I have used these for smaller clubs all the way up to very large outdoor events and have never had an issue. if you are playing in places with ceilings lower than 8 ft.....has nothing to do with the BOSE. You can also take out a ceiling panel and the P32 works with just the bottom 16 speakers plugged in......
I have heard that you can use half the array for 16 drivers ... is this true? I realize this would have a signifigant impact on the sound ... about to purchase for giging in New Orleans and am concerned about height
Not sure what happened to the comment I just wrote. Just wanted to say thanks for the excellent review. You saved me a whole lot of money and frustration.
Your the best….. I have to 2 Pro 16s and I run a cheap blastking 12ch mixer. 7 mics on my drum set and I run my IPhone in the RCA in jack. I agree with all your criticism of Bose. I finally got my rig sounding decent and enjoying it. I love your take on Bose though, You hit right on the nail, but for some reason we still buy it. God Bless.
@@valeryboma9370 I'd venture to say it's because he got over the euphoria of the purchase then had buyers remorse - big time. I sold high end home audio for over 30 years. Bose was a joke in those circles. I understand it's a different animal with live.
Your arguments are valid. I switched from an L1 type 2 which I love still to the pro 32 and I'm very disappointed at the poor frequency response. It takes a lot of work to make these speakers sound good and even then I'm not satisfied with the way the sound is sculpted. I use a k sub subwoofer with it because I don't care for the Bose base cabinets. I believe the fundamental problem is that the line array speakers are too small. I always get a tinny sound that I can't seem to eliminate. If anybody has any idea how to please let me know. I use a single stack for karaoke. Was a fantastic combination with the L1 type 2 but infuriating with the updated Pro 32
I was thinking about buying one, however: - The height is an issue. - FX are super limited unless you buy the extra tonematch, for hundreds extra. - Bags cases need to be bought seperately. You'd think for 3000 they'd include those. Sloppy really. - I don't mind the price, but I do mind all the stuff you need to buy separately for it to work properly for what you need it for.
Thank you so much. I was considering buying the Bose 16, then the 32, but your incisive review woke me up! I spend my gear dollars carefully, and I realize buying the Bose 32 would have been a disaster! You saved me big time on this one. Now the question is....now what do I buy?
Just had a demo of boae L1 pro32 In a large stage environment looking to replace my 2 x l1 model 2 with 2 b2s Which I think are brilliant great sound DIDN'T like the sound of the pro 32 especially the sub 2 it sounded dead and muffled it was loud but the more you turn it up the worst it got The line array doesn't sound as good as L1 model 2 OPAZ was spot on I'll be keeping my L1 model 2 B2s till retirement Me Thinks
Wish I had gone with the Sub 1 for the Pro 32. Something is off with the Pro 32/Sub2 combo. There's a harshness to the sound. Definitely not as warm as the L1 Model 2 w/B2. Started using my L1 rig again until I try out the Pro 32 w/ the smaller Sub 1.
All points are valid except for 1. Running mono is better than stereo for live events The problem with running stereo in live situations is that the sweet spot is only limited to the area equidistant between the two speakers. All the other areas will be hearing different mixes depending on what speaker they are nearer to. Another problem with running stereo on column arrays(and even point sources) are that they are more susceptible to comb filtering which causes cancellations across the entire frequency range. Comb filtering is the main reason why the sound does not feel “full”. If you heard the effect of comb filtering you will know what I mean. 2. The bottom speakers are not useless. It may seem useless assuming sound travels in a straight line but you need to consider that sound refracts upward when there is a positive temperature change. Putting line source speakers on the floor lessens the drop off in volume due to temperature changes(which is a common problem for column arrays and even compression drivers). That being said I still prefer the f1 series to the l1 because it does not wobble and there are no physical connections that are points of failure. The connection from the columns to the sub are not worth the price for all l series speakers. EV did a better job in terms of construction and materials with the evolve 50s.
Well I have to eat some crow here. I was having issues getting my EV 30M to sound exactly the way I wanted. So I did another shoot out with the PRO 8 and the EV using my Bose T4S mixer on both. The Bose PRO did come out on top. So I went back to the PRO 8. I run 2 for stereo. That being said I wouldn’t spend $7,000 to buy 2 and then a Tone match mixer! I would buy some QSC 12.2’s. Or the Bose F1 812.
@@opaz. Not when I used the T4S mixer. If you use Music mode, mud in the midrange for live vocals. Live cut out the low end. Adding back in just was not that great. I ended up with 2 Pro 8’s.
I like the design and sound pattern of Bose line array. i wish some brand would design similar or equivalent like this as long as not violate the patent.
Great review, thanks. I have an L1 compact and have been thinking about upgrading. I'm a solo acoustic guy playing bars/restaurants and such. But the compact just doesn't push a lot of low end on outside decks and environments. Was looking at the pro32 because it must be the best, right? I think I'll look at a 16 next. Not in a hurry, doing the research...
Ok.. I’m really Saddened to hear that.. but your so right $6000.. is insane.. But remember you’re paying for the name Bose ha ha..! You’re so right there’s so many systems out there that sound great but if it’s not doing the right thing they’re not getting my money..😖🎶 Thanks again for the pros & cons on the system we need more people like you & me out there .. Like Dave Chapelle says when keeping it real goes wrong ..!😩😖🎶
Ummm using a 32 in those venues is kinda a waste. If you look at the design intent of the series the 32 is def for bands or medium outdoor places where you’ll be in a stage. All those extra speakers on the bottom are aimed to a “crowd” below you.
Sir, you make total sense. Sound engineers craft the Stereo in their mix to complement the music and relying on 1 speaker only is risky in case of a problem. (and what you said about people spilling drinks is so true)
listen to one, you will understand. your mind always tells you it cant be done til your ears get involved....i was skeptical too til i played on one. theres nothing better for a solo or duo musicians
I have two S1pro the. I got two L1pro 16 the best sound and yes the 32 it’s very expensive and that floor control I agree that’s why I like the 16 pros
Just thought that it you sell your units , try and get the Model 2 and B2s before they are all gone. I paid £3336.00 for a pair! At Guitar Guitar in Epsom on interest free too. Nearly the cost of just one of your Pro 32 sets! Good luck mate
Hello sir....i think,i might be able to help you.. If you can play this unit in stereo then you got one foot out of the mud . You have to EQ each one separately to the room.and then balance are tone them together.....as for the bass cabinet try raising it to the height of the top of the stick.raising and lowering it to find the right EQ to the room...ooooo yeah..both sub's should be on the same rack or stand ...one upright and the other on it side.. actually if you could turn the right speaker 😅 stick upside so tweaker are on top.🎉... How,,😂 Duck tape..I hope this works for you and me..i just have two boom boxes that I arranged like this.well one PA with 2:1 and a 2:1 Boom BOX.. when i was a kid i worked the system.a 100th tube system 50 tubes per side and replacing the tubes when they burned out..and i notest the audience never heard the true sound from stage 🤯...and i thought 🤔 you have to separate the Bass 😕 i ask all of the people i ran into anyway.they move that system to Mexico city.and it received an award for best sound system of the year 🤔... But i just got an award for spot light.😅 So my works great 👍...you can send check to me anytime 🤠😂...PS..you might try mixing the larger and smaller subs together and not two large... that's all😊
In past videos you said you don't mind pairing speakers from different companies. I agree the Bose House Sound is lacking clarity on top. I have paired my EV30M with the Pro32/Sub2. Using the App on the EV I can add just enough EQ to bring out the frequencies missing from the Bose. Of course I love the fact that I'm getting sound from left and right. Your response will probably be why should you have to fix a $3,200 speaker? Just a thought if you want to return your JBL PRXs! Shame you bought a pair of Pro32s. What do you do with your gear that is bested by the next find?
No, pro32 with the ev is good, right up my street. If you don't experiment, you don't get anywhere. As you might or might not know. I am all over the place with brands. The average person buys a pa that fits the purpose and "THAT IS IT" job done. Get on with it and start earning.That is the best and most efficient way to be. However what if you're unsure what to buy or can't get to demo product after product. I love gadgets, audio etc and always have. I am always looking out and about at what's new and if it is good I want to try it out. At the same time give back whether it's info through the tube or just advice There are so many that are just like I was years ago before I even had a clue how to successfully deliver a dj performance. They aren't sure which way to turn finding the good gear and eliminating the bad. We all want the best and bottom line, we want to spend as little as possible getting it. Hopefully my tiny input over the net, helps somebody Obviously some disagree and they're opinion matters, not mine Very few item purchases are sold. I experiment with equipment, let other djs, buskers, bands, performers, places of worship, clubs, bars etc etc use them for periods to get their feedback for myself to see how items work or don't at NO cost to them I do still use a majority of my equipment to earn and at the moment it's all going very well. Problem is, there's just not enough hours in the day to do it all
IF it was my only pa. Obviously not turned down as I have other pa systems. Suggested already but sounded terrible with just 16.It's the tallest rigid pa i have and at 7ft, the possibility of it causing height issues is high. All shorter L1's are adjustable why? but the tallest is not...odd.
Thanks for your review. I’m not buying this product as much as I love Bose. I have 4 Bluetooth speakers from Bose . I wanted something bigger, but it will not be Bose, thanks to your review.
I think Bose systems are like high-end cars like BMW's or Mercedes--they aren't worth the money, but boy are they nice. Not to mention very easy to transport which becomes more important the older you get. I play a keyboard and my partner sings and plays sax. My L1 Pro32 Sub 1 has filled the bill for us in a very satisfying fashion. Yes, I paid a lot for it....but boy is it nice. I don't necessarily disagree with the points made in this video, but in my opinion the pros far outweigh the cons.
I was in Sweetwater yesterday testing various column array units. For the money, you can do better with other units. The EV Evolve 50 sounds pretty damn good for about half the cost. Add in just about any sub (and I paired it almost everything they had on display) I personally think you come out better. That system is not worth $3200, it's just not.
The problem with bose is that they are lacking the innovation they use to have, and it's a dumb decision to trust a company when you do not care for real quality. I agree with all the concerns you brought up, bose doesn't fail in making good sound devices they just have fallen back on their names sake when I am no fool and I will knit pick everything a company I trust makes so I know I'm going to be satisfied with my purchase rather then regret it later. You're flat-out stupid if you do not vet your products before buying, I compare every product to every brand before I buy, and I have never been disappointed with anything I reviewed. I guarantee if they cut corners now, they will again, and it will be lazier as it continues. Will not be buying this model and will be keeping bose under the lens of scrutiny from now on.
Sorry mate, thank you for pointing out the down side of this, but can I just ask that you make a script when you do these videos. It's only that you keep repeating yourself over and over and it's very distracting..
Being a DJ you would far less notice the mid range detail being lost in a live performance. I think the issue hear is the 2” Cricket drivers cannot produce the mid frequencies properly. Even the S1PRO has better mids uses the same 2.25” mid high drivers the 812 uses. I think they made a big mistake using 2” drivers! The low frequencies are not passed to the Sub until 200Hz. That’s why it sounds like there is a hole in the response of this speaker. They should have kept the 2.25” driver size and improved the drivers and DSP. Mines going back!
I have two L1 Pro 8 and a Yamaha mixer (8 inputs). Still cheaper than a pro 32 and in stereo. I think the 32 is overkill and overpriced. We never have to play to more than 100 people. I can set it up the pro 8 in 5 minutes, the whole system fits in the trunk of my Honda Accord. Here in Florida a lot of gigs are outside on decks bar/restaurant places. The 32 would get wrecked there, all those inputs facing up, the speakers to the floor makes no sense, why not different kinds of speakers in that whole column? I get an amazing sound out of the Pro 8, no one can believe it, they are looking for extra speakers. I have to say most DJ/PA set up I’ve seen are total overkill for the situation.
Thank you so much for this truth be told on bose products, I was about to splash out on bose gimmicks, and that's exactly what they are or better words have become, very simple Bose have the name and they know it, so now they are thinking profit and cuts, build cheaply cut corners, Throw the money into marketing and take us for fools, same game went on with Boeing Max airplanes, what happened, they crashed, same will happen to Bose eventually if they continue this scamming customers, I bought 2 yamaha stagepas 1ks and only way I'll use is with my external mixer, I am contemplating selling them on, I would love to hear what you have to say about this system, also all the talk about Evolve 50 and the 50m, Well done once again here, very very valuable information, I am now subscribed to your channel, cause my friend you say it like it is ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you Martin. Give me a little time, very busy with events at the moment. I'll create an upload or reply with details concerning the other mentioned column systems
@@opaz. thanks a million I look forward to your review, especially with my Yamaha stagepas 1k's I am so close to selling on, but I don't want to jump right in and probably end up being sorry afterwards, I'm busy too with events right now, communions yesterday and ended up leaving the yamaha's in the the van and used my Dynacord P5 system, old technology but still belting out with no issues, Im told now to sell the 1ks quick and buy 2 Yamaha DXR 15's I'm at a loss on what to do here, I am a singer and also play keyboards at my oneman band gigs, and also a dj and karaoke, So vocals really is of utmost importance, using the Yamaha 1ks on their own mixer, no way was the vocals pristine, that 1 knob eq is a gimmick a joke, I'm not going to go on, I think you know exactly what I'm bringing across to you here, also yes 100% correct when you say brand names are not going to get you gigs, and by god marketing hype and brand names can really sway people's minds into thinking they are getting the best, the best sound the best product, and 3000 your saying for the L1 , that is absolutely a joke, you were a brave man to take it apart and show everyone what they are actually buying, a load of glorified junk, yes it's the marketing and huge money behind a company that can pay for these adverts and pay people to sing their praise and hypnotise the likes of us into buying junk.. lol you got me going now 😠😉😊
its not a gimmick, i used the l1m2 for thousands of gigs these are made for artists not really so much for dj's. artists need all those speakers because venues and stages come in many different heights, and most of the time the stage is elevated and the audience seating position is lower than the stage making peoples ears near the floor level of the stage.....if there were only a few tweeters near the top that would be way way over the audiences ears. Bose puts a lot of RnD in their gear and make their products for a reason.
@@opaz. meaning that dj's dont usually have the same situations at a gig that performing artists do. Dj's "usually" are on the same level as the crowd or slightly higher in a booth, but not typically at the height of a stage. That is the biggest difference but theres the fact that also the L1 systems are never going to put out as much bass as for instance a powered 18in sub, and that makes them not as well suited for DJ work. As well as most crowds for DJ's are expecting to hear very loud music and the L1 in not designed in that same way. The L1 is designed to not be dependent on loud sound pressure levels to reach the audience, in fact the sound reaches more areas and more evenly than conventional systems but it does so without having to be exceptionally loud to do it, so they dont design them to be super loud. I do agree that Bose does market these for DJ's as well, and yes they can certainly cover a lot of DJ gigs but they won't perform to the same level as a good conventional pa system.
You honestly nailed this review out of the park I been skeptical of those bullshit sticks selling over a grand. Most DJ’s I know would agree with you as well that some DJ’S, NOT ALL buy brand name to say they got that brand name. No knock on them do what you do but don’t lie to everyone else and say they are the best bang for your buck because they are not ! For example, remember when them beats studio headphones came out at a whopping almost $500 ? I thought they were the worst sounding monitor headphones !! The brilliant strategy that beats came up with paying celebrities DJ’s to wear them during gigs, DJ’s seen that and joined the band wagon completely ignoring the specs ! Meanwhile technic headphones selling for 150 sounded better and were 5x less expensive, come on. This is a Problem we are facing in America, marketing strategies design to trick the consumer into purchasing gimmicks and crap product in return for less value on the consumer and more for the star! My audio technicas and technics headphones stood the test of time thru that beats studio phase and proved still to this day that you can’t always throw your hard earned money at these companies jacking up prices just because they great at marketing and paying off celebs. We have to Hold them to a certain standard depending on the money they want us to pay them.
Every word you say is the truth. Beats is just hype, it was always just hype and was selling with even more hype. The companies are getting wealthier, fooling us churning out lacklustre garbage and laughing at the buyers on the street The real long standing products don't need hype, their price point and established quality does the talking And as for having the celebs and influencers on the payroll, that is evil selfishness and dishonesty. Your extremely valuable comments are a credit to this channel. I shake your hand Sir
Hey OPAZ, I watched your whole video and totally get it that the 32 is not worth the money. I already did see that most reviews are about the 16 and it already looked to me that they are pushing the 16 and 32 because it makes them much more money over the 8. The prices here are linear, which means a 16 costs as much as 2x 8’s and a 32 costs as much as 4x 8’s. Would you say that it would be a good setup to use 4x Pro8’s and having spacious sound that works well for Deep House / Tech House and Techno? Or do you have other models that you would recommend? I’m going out to some shops to test some alternatives like the Yamaha Stagepas1k, JBL etc. Please let me know. 😊🙏🏼
I would rather use just 2X of anything, there are so many PA's out there demo as much as you can. If you ever fancy a spacious sound, I would recommend using a sound effect rather than using multiple systems It's so much cheaper
Hi, I am a solo acoustic performer, running vocals and acoustic guitar, along with my loop pedal. I recently purchased a bose l1 pro 16. The Outdoor the sound is incredible, couldn’t be happier…. however in a loud party room with no more than 100 people, I crank the volume up and the sound becomes weirdly muddy, almost distorted and feels like it’s sending more of the sound to the subwoofer. I have messed around with lowering the bass to almost as low as it can go and I can’t get rid of the muddy bass-like sound at high volumes. Are you able to offer me advice?Is it possible I have a faulty product or do I just need to work on my EQing?? Thanks James
Sorry to hear that you're experiencing problems James. A few questions. How many times has this happened?, has it been since purchase or just lately? Does this happen in smaller rooms or also in larger rooms?
Hi, thanks so much for your review. I’m running a ballroom dance studio, at the moment using Bose L1 Model 2, but not so impressed with sound quality. Was thinking to change for two L Pro8, in opposite corners. Do you want think it’s a good idea? Or you have some other suggestions. Thank You so much in advance. Very excited to hear from you soon 🤩
Sergiy, how big is the ballroom and how many people (maximum) are in it at one time? You say you're not impressed with the sound quality, why?. Is it not loud enough or do you mean something else concerning tone, can you be more specific
Regarding quality I was expecting a bit clearer sound, in other studio( that is smaller) we have two LD 28 and it seems like it sounds clearer. Maybe because ceilings are much lover and space is smaller. Also I’m using mackie big knob to control volume, and it doesn’t give me ability to customise bass and treble. LD has a mixer on board which allows to do it. With L1 I have to turn sub to minimum. Also maybe because I placed it in the corner. When I was buying it I was hoping I’m buying best Bose speaker for events. But kinda not impressedI don’t know 🤷♂️ maybe I’m too picky 🤔 Thank You for reply 🙏
Would you say the SUB2 with ist price tag of ~1200€ is also not worth the money? It is the smallest SUB with 1000watt power down to 37Hz ( I just drive a very small car & my basic PA System fills already the trunk - But I am not sure if it is worth the money, Sometime this just says that it can waste so much ernergy, but it is not going to deliver them and maybe a 500w Behringer B1200D-PRO can deliver the same audio experice.
The sub does not suit/match the 32 column, not necessarily that the sub is a waste of money. The sub alone may fulfil all of your needs/requirements. You will definitely need to demo both subs as the price/performance balance is crucial here
Thanks for your reviews. One main reason I’d might be interested about this pro 32, is the weight. I think it’s the lightest, especially the sub 1. Do you know another column brand with enough power and a light sub ?
Hi, great review , congrats !! For voice and backing tracks performer as I am,, I would like to know your thoughts about a comparison with db technology 1203 , I want to keep the High Fidelity of music , So I wouldn’t mind to sacrifice punch and power watts for quality music for backing tracks and voice, What’s your opinion ? Thanks 🙏
The 1203 is great and today at an even greater price. Definitely a good choice. I would suggest you demo as many PA systems as possible as there are many recently introduced systems with more onboard options that you may benefit from
hi my friend im wondering if can you help me ive got the BOSE l1 pro8 and pro 16 my main contention is im getting microphone volume fade on all three models i cant understand whats going on i was realy a big fan of BOSE now im going off them i never had this problem with my old gear i swapped for bose what could be causing this please let me know Chris
I think that we can all have different opinions, I have owned two L1 M2 with double B2, I’ve had them for over 6 years, we run a wedding planner business, we’ve never thought of changing to a conventional speaker, we do understand however, that other brands are working hard to punch bass and make their speakers louder and at half the cost, our interest hasn’t been to blow peoples ears with the sound but instead having a pleasant sound throughout the entire room, if that was our goal, then we would probably be looking at some RCF or other brands that will deliver louder and punchier sound. I feel like this like everything else, we all have different tastes, I don’t mean to insult, we’ve bought cameras for photography, some can cost 2k some other 6k and there’s a reason why you want to go with something that costs more, not to show off, believe me the customers we deal with they just want everything to be perfect, hopefully at a low cost, they don’t care if you sweep the floors or vacuumed, they want to see it cleaned, a lot of times is just us, our taste. I would be lying if after so many years of using our Bose systems we’ve had at least one come up and say, the sound could be improved, instead they’ll come to us and say, we are amazed the way this sleek design speakers sound, they are really awesome. I much rather listen to what our guests have to say than what other DJ would say, I’ve friends who own conventional speakers and they love blasting it, they think is better cause is louder, when they see our system they go like; maybe try to sell these and buy the brand I got😊 we just smile, for us there are other factors that count, having this great speakers with a sleek design we have been able to store them in a smaller space, and we are so confident when we set these up it’ll do a beautiful job, not jaw dropping but it’ll do an awesome job. If we ever had to upgrade to a larger, bulkie and punchier we would be looking at Bose Showmatch, but we better have an army to move them, and a great chunk of money, while we can carry this with less help, others want to show off with big sounds, and maybe great but not what we want.
you are correct, even in studio situations louder is always perceived as better, but its a trick our mind plays on us as humans, louder doesnt mean better sound.
I read they are 300W that's terrible for the money they charge. I've used the Bose L1 model 2 for over 10 years + and I can say Bose systems are great for small to medium indoor gigs. Outside can be terrible or pretty good depending on location and wind. With that said most of our outdoor gigs we have to crank it to the max just for the sound to carry 50ft to the bar and if the wind is blowing towards the sound forget about it. The low end is my biggest complaint with bose, it just doesn't carry. You walk 20ft away and most of the low-end drops off especially outside. All in all I'm very happy with my L1 model ll, at least for the acoustic stuff I use it for.
i used mine outside for years on many hundreds of gigs, never had any issue with people hearing in large outdoor spaces. Bose doesnt work like a conventional pa system which relies on directional high spl's to get its sound. its a panaray system and even though its not as "loud" as other pa's it covers a larger area but more importantly it operates in a way that you hear what you hear on the stage at the back of the venue with negligible spl drop off. that being said mine way always loud and clear at the back of the venue and all over the place not just loud and not so clear in one spot like most conventional systems. The T1 mixer is a must though
Have you ever done a left/right comparison of the Bose 32 vs Evolve 50? I have and the Bose makes the 50s sound like toys. That said, I still use the 50s most of the time because they do sound very good when not comparing with the Bose.
All explained in the upload it sounds like a huge radio, a big full range performance. Not "crystal" clear, just "clear" like a radio (pro16 the same).I have cheaper columns with clearer hf's. The sub2 goes low but it sounds detached from the column. lots of bass but they don't marry together in my opinion, sub rumbles away doing its own thing but no mid punch (fill-in to couple with column). For 3k I expected "wow factor" sound, much more. It's not all about bass Some of my best sounding speakers are disliked by others and vice versa. The more brands with a different take on sound, the merrier. That's what it's all about, something for everyone
@@opaz. I get what you are saying and I find myself not being able to argue. Very good description. My other big column speakers were the LD Curve 500 TS. Very cool system but the sub was too much for me to move around. The Bose also blows that system out of the water with dance floor filling sound even from a distance. The big bonus is its easy portability. No the Bose pro 32s would not be a good choice. For a jazz club or concert hall, but for big weddings I find them flawed but awesome.
Hi what would you recommend for a PA system for a church that sits about 120 people? We mainly use it for preaching and one vocalist. We tried the l1 pro8 and it way too weak.Thank you!
First thing ; if you wasn’t happy why you just don’t returned the bose pro32? Where I BOUGHT the array they gave me one month for free return no restocking fee and after using this one time i knew it was a keeper! Strong Loud clear sound quality The weight is just amazing light 16kg on sub1 6kg on array 🌝 Set up in 49 seconds!! You are right its plastic and I appreciate its weight! I sold the model 2 and classic because the weight. I have compact AND it is not for more than 49 people that are not eating in silence but pro8 and 32 bose has done well research and development for musicians, the rcf evox12 sound a little better and nice but the sub is more than 20kg alone sooner or later our backs are going to give up. So pro32 expensive but well worthit. Im a solo or duo musician channels are ok but i have 4ts tonematch. Opaz must delete his first video where he defended and praised Bose L1 pro32 😌 This is the second time I watch this video! Before buy it and after… in first time i was agreeing a few things with you. I still think that blue tooth must be stereo even if I ONLY HAVE one Bose L1 pro32
Purchased Pro32 during lockdown, no events allowed till months later (all mentioned in the upload). I gave the pa a chance as it really needed real life events to see how it bears up. Can't return what I haven't really put to the test, especially many months later Many cons outweighed the pros Can't delete the first video "it is true and honest as first impression" The Evox 12 I also have and I praised it in my 2017 upload. 5 years later in 2022, I now state "not worth purchasing it in 2022 as it is now very dated" and there are many better systems available to purchase today.
Catching up on comments: So many events, on average 4 weddings a week since May. Sorry for the delay In 2022, many pa's have eliminated the use of "attach cables" and are totally cable free. How many channels does the Evox have?. There are multi-channel pa's today with multiple uses. As standard, many pa's have reverb onboard. The evox has nothing As standard, many pa's have bluetooth onboard. The evox has nothing As standard, many pa's have an App for support/control. The evox has nothing As standard, many pa's have ample EQ to tailor the sound. The Evox 12 only has boost The Evox 12 is also a heavyweight at over 80lbs. Many pa's also have the ability to accept Firmware updates that could prove vital for the latest features The jmix8 is testament to all that the dated Evox 12 lacks. In 2022 the latest jmix8 now has all the latest updates and is better than the Evox 12.
