10 Strangest Unsolved Video Game Discoveries - Part II 

I think we both know what that dude was tryina look at when he found "beware of the big rat"

1:05 To add to this mystery, the scene immediately after the fade out seems to be from the ghost girl's point-of-view, as she hops off the chair and slowly walks towards the trainers

I love how Mass Effect 3’s ending is so bad that people had to come up with some sort of conspiracy to justify how bad it is

Mass effect 3 tree reflection map was likely a rushed artist who needed a reflection map fast

''Virgil's mother'' Im gonna assume you meant to say Vergil's lover and Nero's mother. Coz Vergil and Dante have the same mom!

“For years players have questioned...Who is this b****”😂😂 I lost it

I love the old school vibe in all your videos. Reminds me of an era of RU-vid I really miss.

There's quite the large number of Japanese legends involving female spirits in particular. So honestly it's not weird at all that they should seem to appear often in Pokemon games.

How incredibly fitting that a secret image cube with Speed Racer cosplayers popped up during a speed run.

Hey, so first off I live in Phoenix, Arizona and as soon as I saw the coordinates from 'Fez' I had to look it up. I looked it up and turns out its a part of the Air Force, luckily I have a friend in the Air Force and he says that the triangle was an old satellite airfield for the Air Force in around the 1940's! Love the videos man!

"Did a rogue AI suddenly snap and wanted to hand Brodis his ass before the system rejected him from doing so?" Comedy Gold

The woman in red in DMC4SE's Vergil mode intro mystery was solved, ages ago. She is suppose to be Nero's mom. Basically it it's mentioned that Vergil slept with one of the cultists, in one of the light novels. Thus he sired a son with her, Nero. The implication of the woman in red turning her head is is that she recognized Vergil, even though he was disguised, because they had a relationship at one point. It's meant as a subtle nod to that story point.

The woman in the red dress in DMC4:SE was a hint that she liked Vergil. So in DMC5 when we learned(confirmed) that Vergil was Nero's father we, the gamers, would think about this scene

Data mining should answer the cube thing. It was probably a developer photo. The real question is what triggers it.

Sometimes you wonder how people find these things in a video game. Then you see the one in bloodrayne and you know exactly what he was up to when he stumbled across the giant rat message

The Assassin's Creed guy is probably a model that is supposed to appear far away and will then be replaced with a better version once you get closer. This one is obviously bugged.

Fun fact about the Ruby and Sapphire ghost: after it shows up on the chair the camera immediately cuts to the point of view someone sitting on the chair would have.

It’s important to note that Phoebe uses Ghost-types, so it’s not that unexplained why there’s a ghost there

The Mass Effect series: 1- The reapers are coming. 2- The reapers are coming!! 3- What did I f***ing tell you?!

0:57 "Wait a second... did you see that?" Camera lowers down to Phoebe's skirt *"G O B A C K"*

You are one of the last original videogame list youtubers,thanks for looking into obscure stuff!

Usually I'm not a fan of "The whole thing was in the protagonist's head" theories, but if it could retcon Tali's Photoshopped stock image face, I'm all for it.

can you make a video about strange discoveries EXPLAINED by devs?

For FEZ, Phil had a friend who was also playing FEZ with the rest of the Community, Often his friend would post Pictures of getting cubes from puzzles that were solved. When the community first discovered the Red Cube, everyone was confused about it because it wasn't part of the game objective. After the second red cube, burned map, and Monolith was found, community was puzzled once more. Phil friend showed a Picture of getting the last red cube without any hints of the code, which made fans believe it was something they shared, later revealed by people who followed Phil stating they worked together. After getting 3rd red cube and finding the location where they form, it formed a logo of a company Kokoromi where Phil and his friend founded and work. The mysterious Triangle is an abandoned Air force Lux base "Luke Aux #4", and there are several of them around Arizona. Weird he put the coordinates in the game.

*Nero's mother

The Mass Effect 3 thing is probably just a random cubemap used to simulate reflections . Since it's out of bounds, you wouldn't see it .

Virgil's mother was already dead by the time were you were playing as Virgil, I think you meant Nero's mother

If you can't sleep, try crying. That's what I always do.

8:36 That Batamon didn't just disappear into thin air. It was killed by Kirby.

The giant rat easter egg could be a reference to the Rodents of Unusual Size in The Princess Bride

You should make a series called "Solving Video Game Mysteries" where you do some digging, contact developers, things like that. You did this for the creepy placeholder texture in that racing game, why not turn it into a full-blown series?

I think I can explain the assassins creed black flag mystery. Games sometimes use low poly models when players are far enough away from npcs and other objects that they wouldn't possibly be able to notice the fact that they're low poly. They're replaced by proper models when the player gets close enough. My guess is that a glitch caused a low poly npc model to not despawn after the player got close to it. The game then suddenly realised that the player was close to the low poly model and despawned it, which is why it disappeared. Hope this clears up that mystery for you

I remember when I triggered the Ghost Girl in Pokemon X. I knew she'd pop up eventually, I was even kinda looking forward to it, but when you walk out of that elevator and see that she was behind you I swear my heart just about stopped and I nearly dropped the game.

6:40 you can also see at the back in the group, a person that walks through a couple people and then disappears. creepy!

Shouldn't those Gex cubes be easy to find with a bit of data-mining?

You could make this video 24 hours longer, and I would relish every second of it.

That triangle in the desert is an airplane test landing strip for pilot training in case you're curious. I doubt that solves any mysteries though

As for the woman in the red dress, I think you meant to say Nero's mother, not Vergil's Mother. Eva(Dante and Vergil's Mother) had blonde hair, and is dead, Vergil saw her die which is what made him unlock his Devil Trigger. It's in the books.

In my opinion, GEX is honestly one the the greatest, yet most underrated games that I personally know of from games in that era.

The Gex cubes are probably errors in mesh/texture. I would not be surprised if developers used pictures of themselves or their kids as placeholders

The pokemon one, isn't Phoebe a ghost type trainer? Could be that being this type of trainer to such high level may enable one to sense presence of ghosts of real people too. So, this gives us additional question, did Phoebe have some relative that passed away in very tragic way, which is following her around as some sort of promise to always be beside her?

Congrats on 250k subscribers dude!!! Love your videos :)

The low poly model in assassins creed is a background model that generates when youre really far from the area. It still makes it look like there are people walking around, but not put too much strain on the system by rendering full poly and distant npcs. It simply didnt despawn until then

The Black Flag NPC one is interesting, because it’s mesh was rendered behind other geometry that would have been behind it, and warped with the camera, and it’s geometry was it’s lowest LOD. This tells me the NPC was on a separate render pass, possibly for “far away background NPC” and accidentally spawned with a transformation matrix perhaps accidentally recycled from another possibly failed to spawn NPC closer to the player

The Mass Effect trees are just an angular map. It's just a graphics trick in games, used when you have a reflective surface rendered and you don't want the game to slow down, while the GC processor calculates ACTUAL reflections. You create a shader algorithm that makes that surface reflect only a special type of a panoramic image: an angular texture. This gives the player an illusion of reflectiveness on stuff. The image for Citadel-oriented reflective surfaces just happens to include the trees from the park elements ON the CItadel station.

Number 1: Tetris can somehow be a battle royale game

I think “all work and no play” is a reference to The Shining (1980) which is already a very theorised movie

!!! The guy in black walking towards the player in Black Flag, He behaves almost exactly like the shadowman from LSD: dream simulator. Who is also low poly in his game. he walks towards the player and disappears right before him

I think the "beware of giant rat" message is a refrence to the rodents of unusual size

In Dark souls 2 at the Iron Keep in "Eygil's Idol bonfire" if you look through the right eyes hole(without zooming with binoculars). *You can see a white phantom standing on a Cathedral.* This might be tied to the Bell Keepers covenant lore. I found this on the PS3, and several people I met in-game seen it also.

Eh NOT VERGIL's mother, but NERO's mother as the popular theory bud . . . I mean literally she was dressed like one of those devout followers of the order of sword religion (which Nero enlisted as demon hunter/Holy Knight in that organization). Dante & Vergil mother, Eva, already died a long time ago. I think Vergil might be the one that witnessed her death, while Eva hid Dante told him never to come out, no matter what. Trish HAVE the actual similar face with Eva if you're wondering what her face look like.

The only weird thing I've ever found in a video game was this odd tower that would show up from time to time in the Hoth Multiplayer map of Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike. It didn't look like a structure that was physically in the game but some kind of visual artifact of some kind because it was just a black line on the horizon. If you moved away from it or got closer to it it would end up winking out and disappearing altogether. The only thing I can think of to explain it is that there is a certain point between 3D objects where they will switch over to 2D in order to still be visually seen by the player (you can observe this easily in multiplayer by having one person in the Slave I spinning while getting closer and further away from the other player). This black line is probably the gamecube having some issues switching some distant terrain from 2D or 3D and that it's just very obvious in the Hoth map because everything is so white and bleached that this artifact stands out more. It freaked me out when I first saw it because it looked like the massive tower from Tales of Symphonia.

The Mystical Ninja Easter egg reminds me of the scene in The Shining where Jack writes “All work, no play makes Jack a dull boy.”

oddheader skits at the beginning of the videos are always epic

Pokemon always has strange ghost things... I honestly wonder why?

Kirby's Dream Land 3 really was creepy as hell, though. It also marked a surprisingly crucial part in the increasingly complex lore of the series--mostly with the final boss Zero (the creepy eyeball that shoots its own blood at you--kid-friendly!). Really, the lore behind Kirby is getting really fleshed out. And creepy. EDIT: Whatever the hell Batamon is, it pops up again. In the recent game Kirby Star Allies, the character Adeleine can paint one as an attack (along other obscure Kirby enemies)

So the idea of the giant rat that might be in bloodrayne 2 might be supported by mirrors edge catalyst because on one of the loading screen texts it says if you see a giant rat your playing the wrong game. so.... I don't know.

hey oddheader i got one for you... In the original assassin's creed, (I play the directors cut edition on pc but this might be on consoles too) there are missions called interrogations, in which you must follow "informants" in back alleys where no-one else is, then beat them up until they give you info on the person you are supposed to assassinate. When the exchange is finished, you kill them. These people share a few specific models, so after you've played through the game and done all the interrogation missions, you will not find these models ANYWHERE else in the game. (unless you skipped some of these missions as you don't have to do all of them.) However, in Masyaf, one of the first missions (you can't skip this one) after you are stripped of your rank at the start of the game involves finding out who opened the town gate for the templars: an informant named Masun. He looks identical to all the other informants from Damascus or Jerusalem. You follow him to a back alley and beat the crap out of him, but instead of killing him straight away, you take him to your master and he is killed then. There is a long cutscene and you are told to leave town and go about your murder-y business, but, as soon as the cutscene finishes, if you go out into the market place near the actual castle entrance and loiter around a corner for about 5 minutes and Masun will just come sauntering around the corner like a regular npc. He has no lines of dialogue, but, strangely, if you hit him or he is dealt absolutely any amount of damage, he dies in one hit. If you follow him around town he doesn't do anything interesting. After seeing this I immediately looked it up on the net, but found NO TRACE of anyone else witnessing this. I did find out, however, that he is storybound to a character named Jamal, who is a templar defect and the one who told Masun to open the gate for them. Jamal is mentioned in dialogue with Masun, and was going to be the subject of an early mission that was ultimately cut from the game, but he is still included as a minor easter egg. He can be found just outside the borders of Masyaf with a group of assassins. If eagle vision is enabled, Jamal will appear in red (enemy) as opposed to blue (friend) If you kill him, it will have little effect on the others. Maybe the Masun ghost has something to do with this? Would love to see you dissect this in part 3! Please investigate! I NEED ANSWERS!

In regards to the Mass Effect theory, the reflection at the end is what’s most likely known as a “pre-baked” reflection. It’s a common technique used in games to avoid the computationally expensive task of calculating reflections for the environment your in. Put simply, all reflections in the environment “reflect” the same image (in this case, what is likely a stock asset). The reason not all surfaces look like that is due to a combination of material, lighting, and angle.

Imagine the discoveries you could make collaborating with Shesez for boundary breaking!

Now we could assume the mysterious red dressed woman might be Nero's mother

Isn't mass effect 3's ending qith trees? Its like a father and a son walking in a forest during a winter telling about the legend of shepard? It went on for like a minute or 2? I know im not the only one who has gotten it

Just got home from the club, got a subway sandwich infront of me and see that you got a new list video up, life Is good atm!!

This day just got better because of a new OddHeader upload

For #10, it’s theorized that the ghost girl is the spirit of Phoebe’s dead sister. It’d make sense that spirits would be attracted to her, being that she’s a ghost-type trainer. As for #7, Vergil’s mother, Eve, is dead, so there’d be a 0% chance that woman is her. However, there’s a large chance that it could be Nero’s mother, and that she recognizes Vergil as he’s walking.

It's worth noting that a ghost girl wouldn't just be hanging around Phoebe for no reason, despite her chipper attitude and festive style of dress, Phoebe is a Ghost Type trainer, and has apparently gained to ability to commune with spirits after training with them for so long. Not to mention the fact that Ghost type Pokémon have always been implied to be the ghosts of humans as well as Pokémon, and one of the Pokémon Phoebe uses in ORAS, Dusknoir, is a literal Grim Reaper that transports the souls of the dead to the afterlife.

5:53 Bro I can legit drive there right now to help that mystery like wtf

Pokemon The Trading Card Game for GBC. There is at least one hidden door, also the Iwakuni cards also seemed weirdly out of place and vaguely creepy as a non-Japanese person without knowledge of the character

The Woman in the Red Dress could be Vergil's wife.... Since a theory said that Nero is Vergil's son so Nero gonna need a mom to be born tho...... (Foreshadowing maybe)

I would take a guess with the pokemon one and that the little girl is a placeholder for the camera because the angle of the next scene pretty much comes from her.

My theory for the ghost girl in Pokemon R/S is that she is quite literally an in game camera- possibly given the model of a little girl to use as a placeholder? What backs this up (and I have seen this mentioned otherwhere) is that a few of the shots seem to be from her perspective- though admittedly not all of them.

I was at a loss for words when you said Vergil's mother.

“for years players have questioned, who is this bi***?” lmao 😂

Another great video as always! Nice job, oddheader.

Additional note on the spooks surrounding Phoebe after the fade to black with the girl in the chair appearing in the last frame- take note of the position of the camera after the cut. It's slightly below the eye level of the standing characters in frame and is moving slightly... As if it's from the perspective of a person sitting, breathing lightly, and in the location of the chair in the previous scene.

According to a Google search, someone did eventually figure out the black monolith puzzle. That said, seeing the actual puzzle solution absolutely makes it seem like brute force was faster

4:20 The theory is its nero's mother? It's one of the only actual vergil cutscenes for 4se, and at that point at the time we didn't 100% know vergil is nero's dad.plus Vergil is Dante's brother. We know Eva is their mother. Otherwise, great vid my dude!

During gamedev there are usually a number of assets, objects and things created that are later no longer needed or relevant and it's usually faster to move them slightly out of sight instead of deleting them and sometimes programmers hide some random message or inside joke, both are usually overlooked during testing. That's where most 'mysteries' come from. They don't have a deeper meaning, people created them and then probably forgot about them.

Hey @oddheader. My brother and I found a secret on the level Hotel Atlantic for the 007 Tomorrow Never Dies game on the PlayStation 1 when we were kids. We used to play around with the god mode cheat a lot and found that if you ran through the wall near the start of the level and kept running for some time, then eventually you'd find a complete replica of the level but with all of the textures altered, cutscenes and all. I think there were even some unique obstacles that could harm you. I'm surprised I've never seen this secret mentioned anywhere else. My PlayStation is broken at the moment, but if I can get it fixed then I'll see if I can get some proof 👍

Have you ever been so disappointed by an ending that you had to write an 800 page fan theory to justify a game developers lack luster writing for one of your favorite games? No? Okay. P.S. There are some pretty interesting things in the Medal of Honor games, and Area 51 by Midway.

800-page conspiracy theory? Fnaf: hold my pizza

Did anyone else notice the red dot near the bottom right corner of the scene during fez when the black box first showed up

New Dunkey and Oddheader videos within 10 minutes of eachother???? What a good Saturday.

I love how every entry is different, it's like the creater actually did some solid research. Like there are other channels who would make this type of videos, but it's like they just did a short 5 min search on RU-vid and literally copied from 20 other videos. I mean honestly everyone of them with have something to do with super mario 64 or something about GTA, and I always roll my eyes going: "great! This again!!" So glad that you have made such a unique video with such a unique list.

I live and breathe for your content.

Mass Effect 3 writers reading on people's theories: "Uh yeah let's go with that. By the way, thanks for the cupcakes."

The hidden cheese in Perfect Dark for the N64. I still wonder about it to this day, why there is a slice of cheese hidden in every level, and why it appears to be made of metal if you shoot it. On the Xbox 360 version, you can even unlock a cheese hunter shirt for your avatar, but it still doesn't explain the reason they were there in the original N64 title.

It actually isn't weird to talk to dogs in Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon. They have text boxes, and they'll often complain about their owner or something

*Nero’s mother not Vergil’s

9:33 Sounds similar to in The Shining where they reveal what Johnny was writing "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." Unless the game was set before the movie or it's a common saying or something.

"Slowly moving towards the ice wall." *shoots it repeatedly*

I remember seeing that gex cube because I was stuck on that level as a kid. I also remember confusingly, freaking out because I loved speed racer but "why was it in the middle of this gex board?"

Underrated channel

8:37 The Batamon disappeared because Kirby killed it.

A lot of people are not big fans of licensed games, such as anime games, but I played those a lot when I was a younger. In Naruto Uzumaki Chronicles, at the final level of the game, there's a hallway that is blocked with a sign that has Japanese writing. I can't read Japanese so I wouldn't have known what it said. I thought the hallway would lead to like a secret level you can go in or something, but unfortunately, there's no way to enter that blocked hallway normally. Even in the Japanese version of the game the hallway is still blocked. I feel that people don't talk about that strange hallway much since I guess not much gamers were into licensed anime games at the time.

The ghost girl in Alpha Sapphire reminded me of Pokemon X and Y's Ghost Girl of Lumios City. The encounter is genuinely creepy for a pokemon game and I had chills when I first saw it. One thing with the ghost girl from Y is that you can find her in alpha sapphire too. Its so strange.

I remember spending entire afternoons and weekends hunting bigfoot in the San Andreas hills with my friends on my PS2

Hey, game designer (sorta) here, for those wondering the reflection of trees is more than likely caused by a set of trees loaded in, and then coded so that the player cant see them OR it's a sort of glass pane into an area that the game loads separately. Idk how, but it's cool that they did it this way

Dat guy in main menu backround in L4D2

3:52 well it’s easy. She the girl Virgil knocked up