Sweden and Finland didn't actually just "decide" to split up but it was during the war of 1808-1809, also known as the Finnish War, that Sweden lost its eastern provinces to Russia and these eastern provinces became known The Grand Duchy of Finland which in 1917 declared independence from Russia as the modern Republic of Finland.
yeah but finnish people were already fed up with swedish empire rule..namely cause of its failure to protect the eastern side during the great northern war...so we kinda happily accepted the grand duchy of finland...so in sense we did decide to split
@@hydraliskin Finland did not decide anything. What did Russia do to Finland. Have you heard of "Greater wrath". Being The Grande Duchy of Finland in the beginning it was good, but later Russia tried russify Finland and Finland was under bad oppression.
The Nyland brigade is Swedish speaking because the Swedish speaking minority of Finland complete their service there, no other reason. As for the coastal jaegers they are more in the "shock troop" category than any kind of classified special forces. They're regular troops with some more specialized (coastal/archipelago warfare) and tougher training than your regular infantry, that's all. They also have slightly better equipment than the regular infantry. There's not really any such thing as "failing" to be part of the coastal jaegers either. If you're selected for service in that unit you will complete the training.
I can't speak with certainty about the details nowadays since I haven't served there for over 7 years but at least back then the coastal jaegers got all the top of the line equipment and heavier firepower where available. They all had RK-95s and a more modern combat vest for example. Both KES and APILAS were carried by them and they had a machine gun (KvKK) in every squad(?) if I recall correctly. I do believe some marksmen/snipers are assigned to them as well. They also had the support of both light 81mm and heavy 120mm mortars (operated by the mortar company), armored landing craft with remotely controlled machine guns and PASI armored vehicles. I've probably forgotten some things but even so, I'd assume some things are different now compared to how they were back then. I have no doubt their equipment is still prioritized but since ATU training is back at the brigade they probably take the top priority now.
I'm currently serving there in 1:a Kust and there is stuff like "failing" it but that's mostly due to medical reasons or being absent too much. I think it's similar to other militaries, but yeah you can't really be relocated in your company, only relocated from command and maintenance group to a direct combat group or vice versa depending on needs. For example we had like about a dozen people eliminated so one direct combat group got really empty so they took some maintenance (Underhåll) dudes and put them in there, they only missed like 2-3 weeks specialized combat training anyways and still have the same standards. Also our current equipment is sorta bad, we all have RK62s now with ATU getting RK95s (Which are in a sorta-ish bad shape). APILAS is still in use and PKM is used alongside the KvKK (Which many regard as a huge piece of shit compared to the PKM). ATU gets the modern flak vest with possibility to install armor plates while we get the M91 Flak vest that is sorta outdated.
Sounds like ATU is now using all the equipment the coastal jaegers had nearly 10 years ago. Pretty much as expected I suppose. You are now wearing what the coastal engineers were using back then, including those flak vests.
In the video you have included pictures of swedish marines and finnish peace keeping forces. The barees are similar but a different shade of green and with differen badges. Also the reason for speaking swedish at the Nylands brigad (uudenmaan prikaati in finnish) is that the swedish speaking minority get their training here. There is no other reason.
Mäkirannantörmä, schalke on ihan hieno perinteinen saksalainen futis seura että ei niitten kannattamisessa ole mitään väärää 👍. Jefuu ite vähemmän ymmärrän ja nhl taasen jaksaa kiinnostaa vuodesta toiseen toki
I have the beret and I'm proud of it. However I don't really miss waking up at 5:45 every morning and starting the day with anti-tank mine circuit training tho.
I think you should look up "Jääkäriliike" aka. Jäger movement (1914-1918). It consisted of volunteers from Finland who trained in Germany as Jägers during World War I, and later fought in Finnish Civil War. Later some of them took a part in Winter war(1939-1940). Most of the generals who were involved in Winter war were Jägers of Jäger movement.
From a dude who got his training in Coastal Platoon, a Military Police (know, that finnish MP is more of a fighting unit compared to other countries), who got bit of training in Dragsvik and with the traditional "marines" - I have huge respect towards them.
Nice video. Thank you. As a finnish I can't help but feeling a little proudness in my chest. So thanks for these videos. Hope you guys make more of these.
*as a Finn. Finland is somewhat known for our education system, yet Finnish people in the internet continuously demonstrate that our English skills are really not up to par with the rest of the Nordic countries. It makes sense, since their languages are related to English, and our language is something else entirely. "A little proudness in my chest" is also a Finnish expression that is just directly translated here.
Im pretty sure if you asked nicely, you could just ask someone about this stuff and there would be no need to do some dubious quality research. Im sure a lot of people here would be ready to help you. Infact many countries armed forces have a media department responsible for training films, a newspaper, PR, and simply answering the questions of journalists.
One thing worth mentioning is that the swedish-speaking minority in Finland tends to live in enclaves that are close to the sea . This means that many have boating experience from before, which is of course useful in a maritime environment. My family had a summer cottage on an island close to Dragsvik and therefore I knew the waters well, before I served as a Coastal Jaeger and earned my green beret as an NCO in 1994.
When the coastal jaeger battallion was stationed in Upinniemiemi and was part of the Army, the unit was Finnish speaking you had to apply and the entrees were chosen through tests. In 1989 this unit was disbanded and it's functions moved to Nyland Brigade. At the same time Vaasa Jaeger Battallion, which was the swedish speaking unit, was disbanded. Prior to this the Nyland Brigade trained regular infantry. To sum it up: prior to 1989 the coastal jägers was an elite unit in similar manner as paratroopers in Utti and all troops served for a year, these days it's similar to other infantry units but trains in coastal operations and has retained may earlier traditions like the beret march. Article about them: www.rannikonpuolustaja.fi/archive/1980_2.pdf ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XwF6ZGsm_ts.html
The Rannikkojaakarit trained in Upinniemi were the Elite of the Elite. Paras came pretty close, but they have different specialities. Not just superior strength and endurance but very very smart men also. In 1988 I had a chance to observe these guys when serving in the combat diver school and omg, the rannikkojaakarit were just head and shoulders above the rest. Rambo would have had nothing on those guys. After Upinniemi Rannikkojaakarit was disbanded (must have been some stupid political decision made by the then retarded chicken farmer politicians) things were not the same anymore.. Well ill just stop there.
Hey Lapin very enlighting thanks a lot. Any suggestions where to find more online material on the Finnish armed Forces prior to 1989 (even in Finnish Language would be ok)? Or ideally some paper books in english? I'm writing a book over Finland Defense in the Cold War and will travel this summer up north along the Botnia Gulf from Helsinki to the Norwegian Border. This would be my 4th and last research trip over there. Love the place...
After the move of rannkikkojääkärit (costal jaegers) to Dragsvik in 1989 and the change of the training language from Finnish to Swedish some of the tradition and officers (Finnish speaking) stayed in Upinniemi. They ended up to train poorly equipped, tough and proud costal infantry/guerilla unit to produce NCOs for reserve. Tough shcool in harsh conditions with physical and mental stress. I think that school doesn't excist anymore.
Thx for this video! Being a Coastal Infantryman myself at the Finnish Navy this video had some interesting new facts even for me. Finnish Marines saw a limited combat action during continuation war. One of the main battles were in 1941 against island-strongholds in the Soviet-held Hanko peninsula military base. These battles ended victorious for the Finns, which in hand speeded up the Soviet withdrawal from Hanko. There was no need to take the city quickly because Germans were advancing towards Leningrad which by time meant that the Soviets couldn’t supply Hanko anymore. The city of Hanko became again a part of Finland in January 1942 and still is to this day.
You should do a segment about the Finnish Rapid Deployment Force. Specialized peacekeeper training for pre-selected conscripts who all get at least NCO level training and ranks. Finland also used to be and still is a very active peacekeeping nation, so a joint FRDF/peacekeepers or two separate videos might be a good idea!
they dont speak swedish for traditons but as swedish is other offical language and every half swedes dont speak finnish so there is need of swedish speaking units but for example commands are in finnish
Most conscripts wear a green beret. This channel does not study whatever they're talking about. The coastal jägers wear a beret of a different shade of green. Some other notable colors are red = paratroopers, black = armoured brigade, airforce = bright ugly blue.
While it's true that pretty much all infantry uses green beret, you still have to earn the darker green beret of the Coastal Jägers so you claiming "they have been known for their famous green beret" and all the tests you mentioned were correct so I'd say you were right and did your research quite well. Dunno what was the problem for last guy.
@ vaahtobileet Its quite obvious they didnt study because FDF beret colors & emblems are taught globally in 3rd grade. People like you are the reason why I signed up for the one way to mars project. I guess ive got state the obvious but I was being sarcastic. No people dont study FDF beret colors & emblems globally.
It's a green beret as in "Green berets" so people generally know what type of green. The regular one is olive, the common field color . Finnish military started using berets pretty late and the colors were taken from Western military tradition of berets so that you don't need to explain the colors.
The colors are not taught globally, but I personally wouldn't make a video about about it acting like I know something without at least googling it first though. But this channel is quantity over quality so they need to keep spamming videos.
Nyland brigade. Nyland means New Land and Uusimaa has the same meaning in finnish, New Land. As you say, they speak swedish in that brigade because Finland have many swedish speaking people and they can do their service in swedish.
At 8:47 you had picture of Finnish rapid deployment forces soldiers, instead of coastal jagers. The frdf soldiers can be identified from the golden crowned lion in their berets. Otherwise good video :)
SCAR and checking ships with possible tight corridors etc.. That really does not makes sense as something compact would be more suitable for such places.. lets say OTs-14 Groza, steyr AUG or maybe if there was bullpup variation of RK-95. 95 has folding stock, but i still think Groza would be way more efficient in cornering and have way more stability.
The origin of the word jäger is not controversial, and it's not a matter of opinion. You were wrong, plain and simple. Nothing wrong with being wrong, per se, but there is plenty wrong about being wrong in the face of facts.
The history of Uusimaa Brigade being swedish speaking was fascinating, but the reason behind it is far more practical. First, you need a swedish speaking brigade to train members of our swedish minority. Second, if the finnish coast or especially the swedish speaking archipelago in Ahvenanmaa (Åland) was ever invaded, the coastal jäegers would be the first ones to go defend it. It'd be far better to have swedish speaking troops there, as the islands are demilitarised, and could potentially see finnish speaking troops more as intruders.
I can't say where Germans got the original jaeger name, but when we adopted it as jääkäri it was just hunter. There were no birds involved at that time. So for us it's just a hunter
While I appreciate the effort to shed some light to the Finnish army, unfortunately one can't just look past the sheer amount of constant errors in the video. Next time, just ask someone instead of just randomly guessing, I'm sure the communications/PR department of the Finnish army would gladly help you. TLDR: Be warned, if you are watching this video, most of the stuff in it is wrong.
Sweden " bigtime" biggest wins come with Finns fightning skills. 30 years war in Germany, where was best troops from all Europe; best was Hakkapeliitta! Comes Finnish words Hakkaa päälle. FINNS: BREITENFELD, 2 X NARVA, KIVENNAPA. All big succes come Finnish fighters. 1809 Finnish didn't fight anymore for stupid Sweden kings.
It is not controversial at all, the jäeger tradition of finnish armed forces Come from the 27th royal prussian jäegers where finnish Men trained and served during ww1, aiming To liberate Finland from russia
@@Ashtonlegoguy Yeah buddy, I actually spent like 20min and wrote a pretty lengthy comment where I point by point went through mistakes made interpretation-/factwise (having served in this specific brigade for a year, trained as an NCO). Checked if someone had noted my comment a week later and it was deleted. Kudos to FTD for showing interest, and count me as a volunteer if he want's tips for remaking this vid. But man, censorship as the vehicle to generate the illusion of quality, good stuff!
Unfortunately FTD facts has used whatever sources of information, without bothering to check the facts from another source. One should not make these kinds of fact videos with a tight schedule. As several commenters have already told, the only reason for using Swedish language (and that is Finland Swedish, to be precise) is because Finland has two official languages, and the Swedish speaking conscripts must be able to get their compulsory military training in their native language. Another reason is that these troops would most probably used in defending areas, where the civilian population speaks mostly Swedish. Like the Aland Islands. A funny thing about the Coastal Jaegers: Their everyday training language is Swedish, but all formal commands are in Finnish. Simply because they might have to operate as a part of some other infantry brigade, under command of Finnish speaking officers, in close co-operation with Finnish speaking troops.
Dave, the still images of WW2 era marines at 05:54 and 06:32 look suspiciously like British or at least Brtitish-equipped commandos. There’s even a collapsed Goatley boat on the ground. Also, at 07:08, the prone soldier with assault rifle is a Swedish Marine Regiment ( incl. Coastal Rangers) member judging by his beret badge (with Viking, anchor and crossed cannons), and block pattern camouflage. Expect all to be formally united under the NATO alliance soon in any case under current circumstances... Keep up with the interesting and esoteric topics otherwise. You’re enthusiastic and refreshing to watch plus big enough to admit when you make a mistake.👏🏿👏🏿👍🏿 🇬🇧
5% of Finland speak Swedish and Finland have two main languages. So we need a swedish speaking brigade. Been there done that ^^ I almost got the green barrette I was too slow to swim and I didnt get another chance to get it. So 80km for nothing :P
Kind of weird wording you got there, Finland wasn't it's own country in any way under Sweden, we were just "east sweden" basically. Also to say "two countries decided to split apart" is also kinda misleading, Sweden lost the region to Russia after this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_War
also the reason they speak swedish over there is because swedish is the official second language in finland even though there's only a few percent of total population who speak it as their mother tongue, and most of the swedish speakers live in the coastal areas or the archipelago, they still have commands and orders in finnish so that there isn't any confusion when working with other units etc.
@@FtdFacts Ok! I got a bit suprised when I saw the swedish ak5c, and you were talking about Finland. BALTOPS( Baltic Operations) were a huge amphibious exercise here in Sweden. Sweden had invited several other countries to join in.
Jaeger means Ranger. In english the costal jaegers could be called coastal rangers. The Finnish amphibius rapid deployment forces ARE all from the ranger company. Where do you get your info?
These guys never correct their errors, not even when they get hints from those who know better. Even the title doesn't make sense. Would they say e.g. Britain Armed Forces? Probably. Well, if even their command of their (presumably native) language is so poor, what can you expect from their facts (or "facts") ... This stuff is very poorly researched. However, others have pointed out the major errors before me, so I won't bother.
There is only 2 forces in navy what you glorify. Missile boat crew and the Frog men. What are the best what we got. Taistelusukeltajat = frog men. Noi on vaan kovia! Te laskuvarjojääkärit olette myös kovia, mutta ette tavalla kuten me.
@BeattilaX If you don't know, don't ask. 01, Then you should know. Cos next pear there was 4 Missileboats what bring down that 01 instant. If you know something about Finnish navy, you should not ask that.
Pretty horrible video on the facts side. So many errors and assumed information that it makes me pretty frustrated. Please, check your facts before posting videos like this.
In the Finnish army the command language is Finnish. It is the same in Nyland and by the way in is not "elite". The "march" is as or less all in the Finland. That is basis and the special forces you should check elsewhere...
Couldn't be arsed to at least run *some* of the words through Translate to hear how they sound? It seems like you copy stuff straight from the internet and present your perception as fact, which is super lazy and kind of irresponsible for a channel in the "Education" category. Have some pride in your work man. Even to a native you sound confusing.
Rodigo Duterte yeah medal of Honor war fighter and battlefield 5 campain will include the winter war of WW2 and uno what's funny I don't even have a console anymore and don't know why the fuck I'm watching this , I love Finland buy fuck all military
