The unit based in Utti Jaeger Regiment is officially called Erikoisjääkärirykmentti which literally is Special Jaeger Regiment. So because the name of the base and the unit based in there are almost exactly the same I understand why it might be easily mistaken and mixed.
To add to that... the word Jaeger to my understanding is just another word for Man... a hunter to be specific. So, when I read that, I thought, Utti Jaeger loosely translates to Guys from Utti.
Pretty good. However, the "jaeger" word is taken from the German military who intervened in the Finnish Civil War, bringing with them the Finnish 27th Jäger Battalion. For us, it's basically an umbrella term for infantry of all sorts. As far as the Finnish SOF community is concerned there's also the Special Action Detachment of the Navy, but good luck getting any information about them.The Special Jaegers of the Army appear in the media far more prominently.
GothicSword ”Intervened”? Germany has saved Finland twice, there’d be no Finland without Germany. I hate all the Nazi stuff but have to love the Germans.
To further elaborate: When Finland was part of Tsarist Russia there was a movement seeking to start a revolution. In preparation for that hundreds of Finnish men traveled to Germany where they were given military training in the 27th Jaeger battalion. Germany helped Finland because of WW1 they thought that a revolution in Finland would distract Russia and thus help Germany. Communist revolution in Russia messed up everyone's plans and TL;DR Finland had a civil war. After the war Jaegers made up the main bulk of the Finnish officer cadre (the only trained soldiers in Finland were either Finns who served in the Tsarist Russian military or the Jaegers.) which lead into Finnish military imitating German military and some of the units being named Jaegers in honour of the 27th Battalion. Decades later it was decided that the rank of "sotamies" (private) is renamed as Jääkäri (Jaeger) as well. In fact infantry companies and battalions are all called Jaeger companies and battalions in Finland. Utti Jaeger regiment is not special because of the name, but because of the training and the task it has.
@Törp Mörp What a bunch of crap, absolute horseshit. The only thing Germany has ever cared about with regard to Finland is the lengthy Russian border, which is a good place to use for invading Russia. The notion that the Nazis, of all people, gave a crap about the independence of any European state, let alone that of Finland with it's "mongolized" populace, is laughable.
Just an FYI, just say Finnish instead of Finland when you're talking specific object in Finland, like Finnish army, it's the same thing as saying Mexico army, just sounds a bit silly.
Rifle shown at 9:04 is actually not Rk 95 Tp but Rk 62M. It is a modernized & refurbished version of old Rk 62 with telescopic buttstock (good when wearing varying amounts of body armor etc.) and rail mounts (for optical sigths etc.). Not so many 95's were produced back in the days and they are getting worn out, but there is a huge stock pile of older 62's. Anyway, I bet the Special Jägers are using all the variants that FDF has around (including small number of FN SCAR).
The 95 is mainly used by guards jaegers (infantry specializing in urban combat, based in the capital city, Helsinki), the international readiness brigade, other high readiness units and the special operations forces.
@@freezedeve3119 this. I had two 62's, a 95 and a 62m1 during my military service and both 62's were greatly more accurate and also lighter to maneuver and carry around. 10 shots at 150m averaged at +90 with both 62's. The best I got with a 62m1 was 85 ish.
The first finnish special forces in continuation war as the video tells was indeed these long range recoinnance teams and there is one name that is familiar for the people in the USA - Larry Thorne. His original name was Lauri Törni and he was the most famous soldier in those special forces. After the continuation war he escaped to USA because he was afraid russians thought he was a war criminal and died in Vietnam war as his helicopter crashed.
Beside the Utti Jaeger Regiment there is the Erikoistoimintaosasto (ETO, Special Operations Detachment similar to the U.S. Navy SEALS and the than there is the Sissikomppaniat which is similar to the U.S. Rangers, so Finland doesn't just have one Special Forces. There is also the Special Border Jaegers-the special ops unit of the Finnish Border Guards
Eihän tää tissiposki oo ees ite käyny armeijaa (koska asuu USA:ssa eikä siellä pakollista) ja sitte lätisee täällä suomalaista wikipedian perusteella ihaku tietäiski jotakin
They are called Erikoisjääkäri (Special Jaeger) and they locate in Utti. And name is same to German Jaegers, first Jaeger battalions were trained in Germany (1914-1917). And the training program was nevertheless seen has huge upgrade to army, so its still basis of Jaeger training / heritage.
Interesting fact about Finnish Military Police: All military police personnel are trained with basic police techniques and usually receive training for fighting in urban areas. In wartime, the tasks are more extensive and include protection of key personnel and targets, especially against enemy special forces, and surveillance, control, pursuit, arrest and destruction missions.
Many people are talking about special border jaegers, combat divers and parachuters, but they are conscripts even they'd get really hard year long training including special forces tactics. There is however some more professional groups in Finland, more like Special Jaegers of Utti. Police have their own not so secret special group, as well Navy and even Finnish Border Guards have group of some sort.
Eli siis voitsä kerto mulle kaikki Suomen armeijan parhaat erityis joukkueet? Mä halun mennä muukalais legionaan mut jos suomes on yht hyvi erityis joukkueit (best of the best withing Finlands army) niin miten mä voisin niihin päästä ja mitkä niiden nimet on et mä voin kysellä niistä.
Nowadays there is also special border jaegers who do more stuff like "guerillas" back in the days of wars, when those long range recon missions were done. So they do less jumping, less helicoptering, but they can survive long missions somewhere out there. Oh... and of course the finnish SEALs who are super tough guys. Training for them is implemented from all around the world, including american SEAL training methods.
Might be yes. I was referring just to something Finland have had in the past. Guerilla recon being maybe closest to what they do. The name... guerilla (sissi) has been removed because it has that negative ring to it. Anyways guerilla badge is been used as some kind of special force badge too. Seen them on special border jaegers jackets.
Ranger is kinda closest, it mean kinda "kaukopartio" what border jaegers are. Sissi has in Finnish language double meaning and in english language guerilla is more like vietcong or taleban, than military unit.
The Border Guards Sissit WAS also Elite troops. My grandfather belonged to the Border Guards Sissi and my Cousins grandfather was also an Mannerheim Knights and got the Cross number 10,and his name was Olli Remes. He was a real bad ass officer and in the winter war was he a Sergeant and in 1942 he was hit by a sniper and was a Capitain. He did a lot of hit and run hits into Soviet union and that was in Lapland and he was in the same unit as my father's cousin, that later joined the Waffen SS and there was a Sharfuhrer, probably for his experience in the winter war in Finnish Lapland
Three minutes into the eleven minute video the narrator is still jaw jacking about the name and origin...the Finnish military is pretty obscure and doesn't get the exposure they should...but C'mon anyone can read this ...so we're five minutes into the video and still taking about seriously obscure history instead of current capabilities, equipment, personnel or current operations.
This is not the only Special Forces Unit in Finland.There are couple others too: Naval Intelligence Battalion trains Combat Divers (Finnish version of Navy Seals). Border Guard trains Special Border Jaegers . Couple other soldiers that are considered as "SF", fxp. Coastal Jaegers, most MP units get a special training in urban warfare, they are also trained to fight against special forces, Recon Companies belong in SF-category etc. Just saying. Great doc though. .
Ran into these guys once. In a forest at night somewhere in Finland. They had superior night vision compared to us.. and tactics.. well and skills. Took out our whole camp and around 30 men in a couple of minutes.
Perhaps instead of giving so much attention to a relatively secondary and non-threatening operation to runout German brothers in arms from Lapland because of Russian demand as a part of peace negotiations,, more emphasis could have been given to Lauri Törni, who served under three flags, Finland, Gernan Waffen SS and in the US Green Berets as Larry Thorne and gave his wartime experience behind the enemy lines to use in developing the US Green Berets capabilities, especially in harsh winter conditions.
It can be seen in this video, how hard it is to find material, especially videomaterial. These guys are good! I've seen them doing their job and they are extremely professional. It just doesn't look like it in the videos, that can be found in public sources, but just as with any special forces in the world, they don't want their tactics and systems revealed too much. Even though there were some false facts and some funny translations, it's great that you guys are interested in our small country. Thank you for that!
Jääkäri (jäger) in its origin means "quick paced infantry soilder" the term was introduced from germany to finland in the years 1915-1917 when bunch of finns went to germany to get more advanced military training. Edit: "the continuation war didn't continue to last so long" well it lasted for three years so...
Jääkäri (jaeger) was originally a Finnish man Who travelled to Germany to be trained to a soldier somewhat before 1914 because in that time Finland was conquerred by Russia and Finland couldn't train any kind of an army. Jaegers fought in Germany's army in ww1 and came back to Finland and fought against reds in civil was. There were about 2000 jaegers who came back to Finland.
Theres also two more special force units here. Marines have theyr own, Marine reconnaissance batallion and Border patrol unit, Special boarder Jaeger company. And neither of these have never seen combat. Only ones have been in hot zone have been Peacekeepers (bluebarrets) under UN. Pretty good video but some gaps there and there.
Eli siis voitsä kerto mulle kaikki Suomen armeijan parhaat erityis joukkueet? Mä halun mennä muukalais legionaan mut jos suomes on yht hyvi erityis joukkueit (best of the best withing Finlands army) niin miten mä voisin niihin päästä ja mitkä niiden nimet on et mä voin kysellä niistä.
2:52 I just have to get this out there: they are actually not Utti EJKR. They are soldiers from Valmiusyksikkö or Readiness unit. Nowadays they are battalion sized though. Not really that special but most certainly not ill prepared. I can tell this from first hand experience. Most of them are young conscripts who are trained so they could take the brunt of a possible invasion. A suicide squad of sort. Fun stuff actually and I remember we gave quite the hell to professionals like Norway, Sweden, USMC and US army to name a few.
Vyksi luotiin sitä varten että saadaan iso, taisteluvalmis ja paremmin koulutettu joukko kokoon parissa päivässä sillä aikaa kun ne loput 250k+ reserviläistä saadaan kasaan viikkoa/ja myöhemmin.
@@_MaZTeR_ Eli siis voitsä kerto mulle kaikki Suomen armeijan parhaat erityis joukkueet? Mä halun mennä muukalais legionaan mut jos suomes on yht hyvi erityis joukkueit (best of the best withing Finlands army) niin miten mä voisin niihin päästä ja mitkä niiden nimet on et mä voin kysellä niistä.
Utti = a place in Finland where is located one military base, Jäger = german word for hunter used in Finland (actually "jääkäri") and has nothing to do with a bird (except that some birds are hunters too as much as cats or some fishes etc.)
UTI isn't only place which train Finnish special forced... you mostly talking about special forces called special boarder jagers. . also parachute jagers is trained there... our costal special forces "kinda like navy seals" and combat divers is trained Dragsvik .. there's least 4 different elite groups in Finland Erikoisraja jääkäri,Rannikko Jääkäri , Laskuvarjo jääkäri and Taistelusukeltaja
@@heidileinonen3767 Jääkäri comes from German word Jaeger that means Hunter. The original Jääkäri were Finnish volunteers serving in Imperial German Army in WWI. They returned to Finland in 1918 to take part of our civil war on the side of the Whites. Today Jääkäri refers to soldiers serving as infantrymen. Special forces are also called Jääkäri, such as Erikoisjääkäri (special jaeger) or Erikoisrajajääkäri (special border jaeger).
2:56 The troops are not Utti jagers they are troops or EX "FRDF ( Finnish rapid deploment forces )" FRDF name is not in use anymore for some reason but they are still called the same in Finnish language ( rapid deploment forces ). They are troos under that green arrow logo. They are special forces trained for crisis management, peacekeeping and for international support.
If you want to learn more about the beginnings of Finnish jaegers, check out the video titled "Finnish Jägers in WW1" by the channel The Great War. Indie Neidell hosts amazing channel so I warmly recommend it, interested in WW1 or not :) Fun fact: Indie and his team researched and wrote the codex in Battlefield 1 ;)
I agree, Attacker could have like small radar that detects enemy movement within a small radius, through walls and such. Defender could have a stationary shield (armor) piercing weapon AKA Lahti L-39.
I don't expect someone who is struggling with his native English language, saying Spe-shee- AL- it-ee, to translate "Utti" properly; it is NOT the Suomi word for "special.' Having access to media equipment doesn't make you a journalist any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician. equipment. Poorly researched, poorly executed. Fail.
There's so much wrong in this vid that I really can't go about fixing it all. But here's something important; there are two professional, tier one SF units in the FDF; the ETO, or Erikoistoimintaosasto (roughly translating to Special activities detachment) of the coastal brigade, the main maritime SF unit, and the Special Jaeger COMPANY, which in turn is the army equivalent. As for the video used, most of it is VERY old, and features a number of non-SF units, including military police personnel.
In addition, the Border Guard has professional SF elements in the form of special response teams, probably mostly recruited from the ranks of the Special Border Jaegers, a unit training conscripts for LRRP tasks. Then there is the Bear-group, the police's SF team which regularly trains with FDF SF units.
They were trying out replacements for the old rifles, but ultimately decided to just update the old RK-62 stock to modern standards rather than buying new rifles and ammunition. Though they might still have some amounts of various weapons for limited use.
This was a good video, and you had many good facts here but I would like to point out a few mistakes. The original video that this video used for most parts is very old, and equipment and some tactics have evolved since. Also, there were some pics that showed other troops like regular military police conscripts, and also a picture of conscripts serving in another kind of force called rapid deployment force. Also it should have bees said that the origins of Finnish special forces goes back to 1939 during Winter war when so called "sissi" troops conducted long range recoinnance behind enemy lines ant this went on through the time of peace between Winter war and Continuation war. But I know it's hard to get informaation on this because it's something that has gotten more daylight in Finland only in the recent times as well
I think they're a bit of a mix between paratroopers, army rangers and 1st cavalry, if one wants to draw a parallel to US forces. There are a number of units with specialised training comparable to sf forces. Commando training is found in Border Guard academy (funnily enough). Then there are the Navy Combat divers and Demolition divers, who are the SBS equivalent guys. And I'm sure there are Force recon type of units within both the army and the navy's marines. I'm sure I left Something out, or may have made some factual errors even, it jaa been awhile since I served. Anyhow. Nice video. :)
Thanks for the interesting video! I got to correct that Finnish special forces were already present in the first world war. Term "Jääkäri" derives from germanys military. Napoleon did have Jagers.
And oh. Forgot from my story that what was clever in that Ryti´s case with Hitler was that for continuum of alliance to stay war with hitler was not made legally trough goverment, Soviets could not blame Finland for that little time that they continued war with Germany at the end before peace with soviets. ;) And Ryti was even took to prison for treason for six years, after the war. Clever huh.. :)
moment when u realize that basic finnish training looks like other countries special forces training, what does it tellu guys, it tells that finland has really good army. that utti is just town where they train such as santahamina :D but ye i like the fact that finnish basic troops are better than some of other countries special forces
The oath we all took was to defend the country's integrity, its legal form of government and the legitimate government. We didn't vow to defend the people or any traditions. That being said, we all know the oath has nothing to do with reality.
So this video, and the one about conscription etc. is nice BUT all of them contain A LOT of facts you have come up with your self... or horribly google translated wrong. Terms are mixed up, not only in translating from FIN to ENG... but every time you talk about numbers it is more or less totally off. Still nice that you put in an effort! Just to mention a few... FIN has no "stand alone" Battalions, you meant Brigades ;) And also, most of the pics are not related to the Utti Jaeger Regiment at all. Just googling "Finnish Special Forces" will show a lot more than just Erikoisjääkärit. Do you have any possibility to actually ask someone who knows the facts before making these videos, would make a ton of difference in credibility for all of your videos? Now it has made me assume that these false facts are consistent trough out all your videos.
