I'm glad we got the sarah jane adventures instead of a series about the doctor growing up at the academy on gallifrey! The sarah jane adventures remains so iconic for me, I loved growing up watching it! Thanks for this Ellie and Who Culture! 😊😊
It kinda would be cool though. I always thought they should have a Time Lord Academy spinoff, I'm glad I'm not the only person who has ever thought of it. Maybe not with the Doctor, since it would probably retcon stuff without even noticing, but it could work with other characters.
@@sheersternfeld1914it is, because when he was mucking around with the master, time lord society had already started using regeneration. but when the doctor was found, she was found alone
Tom Baker coming back for the TV movie wouldn't have been the end of the world for canon, hopefully it would be explained similarly to how David Tennant returning was but it's a rocky way to try and bring Doctor Who back too much relying on the golden days. And I hope we get to see the Ruminant one day, even if it's in some alternate Unbound universe.
There was another spinoff series that only got a pilot and if I remember correctly, it was supposed to be a spinoff of the K9 spinoff of Dr. Who called K9 and company back in 1981.
A Doctor Who cartoon set in it's own unique continuity actually sounds pretty cool. If the late great Dwayne McDuffie was still with us, he would have been an Ideal show runner too! RIP
@@kevin10001That wouldn’t have been possible in the early 90’s, because during the time the Nelvana series was in development, Dwayne was either writing the 90’s Dethlok series for Marvel, or bringing Milestone comics into existence while writing Static and Icon. He didn’t become a DC animation writer until either the late 90’s or early Aughts. And he _certainly_ wasn’t living in either the UK or Canada.
Your writers need to pay more attention. #8 The Toclafane. How can you say that would've been a terrible idea, but just last year you said that was an awesome idea?? What a stupid mistake.
The doctor creating a companion sounds like something he'd do, have you seen some of the crazy stuff the doctor's done throughout the big finish stuff, how dark he got during the 9th era and the novels/comics? it's very on brand. Rose Tyler: earth defense sounds good, it could show her version of torchwood hiring her and training her during the break between series 2 and 3, it would show she lived a nice life and her return would still be shocking, it would also explain how much of a badass she became.
Wait, so in your "Awesome Ideas that nearly happened" video, you said the Toclofane would have been a great idea for Series 1 to take the Daleks' place, but in this video you say it would be a terrible idea to use them instead of Daleks?? Make up your damn mind 😂😂😂
At a Manopticon in the 1990's I got to ask Nick Courtney if he thought it would have been better drama in Battlefield if the Brigadier had died. To be fair, I prefaced the question with the words "Please don't take this the wrong way but..." He was very gracious and said that he wasn't taking it the wrong way and rather than answer the question directly he told the story of how during the Tom Baker era he had been asked if he wanted to do a story in which the Brigadier died? Apparently, he'd thought about it and decided that he didn't want to cut off any potential future work. It might have prevented the UNIT dating controversy if he had though!
yeah the shortening of the runtime is baffling to me though because of how modern production works the reducing of episode count makes sense, of course I would love to have MORE episodes but I know that isn't feasible but surely the episodes could be at MINIMUM 50 minutes like the Chibnall era if not longer, right?!
@@friendlyotaku9525 360-ish minutes of television is a LOT of time, but NOT for the 45-minute episode format the show has now. If we were to go back to the Classic structure of 5 serials a season in 4-6 20-minute parts, we could be doing so much more.
@@idle_speculationwell in Colin bakers run the serials were shorted for his first full season to 2 45 minutes episodes so the it’s not like the classic era hasn’t been 45 minute episodes itself
This is USA calling... There's a Stateside rumor that, desperate to keep the pre-quil series Star Trek: Enterprise alive the writers/producers were going to have the 9th Doctor guest on the 5th Season permire. Of course this never materialized. Those of us who've been waiting for an official Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover with have to be satisfied with the underrated Next Generation/11th Doctor story "Assimilation2"...
I am sure I remember reading somewhere back in the day (in some magazine like Starburst or TV Zone) that there was some vague plan to have Sylvester McCoy show up in an early Next Gen episode as the Doctor... And yeah that Who/Trek cossover comic is pretty awesome.
I actually think that Cow idea would’ve worked because didn’t Steven Taylor face the Toymaker before? Kinda harkens back to the old story and how powerful and personal of a villain he is.
I'm watching the "10 Awesome ideas" video from a year ago (you reference it at the end of this video) and I'm surprised that you said then that the Toclafane was a good idea for a villain but here you say it is a bad idea....
There's a Big Finish story, Lies in Ruins from the Legacy of Time box set where the Eighth Doctor creates a companion to keep him company. They met River and Benny. I found the concept quite sad for the Doctor 😕
About the animated series: The reason the Dr. Who animated series was canceled was entirely because of the BBC's financial meddling. The BBC wanted 100% of toy profits everywhere except North America, where the BBC would allow Nelvana a 25% cut. Not great, but Nelvana was in cahoots with Tyco at the time, and Tyco was willing to fund 100% of the show's development costs (to the tune of $400,000 an episode) to get the North American toy license. So development went forwards, and that's where we get the few scripts and storyboards we do have. But when the BBC found out, they told Nelvana to drop Tyco and fund it out of pocket, without budging on the share of toy profits. When Nelvana balked at this, Nelvana was cut in favor of a British company that promised they could make it for ₤50,000 an episode (and who then promptly didn't). Series developers Ted Bastien and John de Klein did well for themselves; they went on to work on shows like Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Gargoyles, Sam & Max, Redwall, The Magic School Bus, Extreme Ghostbusters, and Miraculous.
Listen im not like a number 1 fan of Rose Tyler but seeing Rose Tyler Earth Defender here hurts cause like thats basically what big finish did with Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon which I think was done so well but i do get how if it was a show at the time it would've been a bit of a disservice to Martha
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Tardises instead of spells and quiditch... That's clever 😁
idk - the idea of Tom Baker being in the Doctor Who movie is really intriguing to me. I mean, whether or not the Movie was canon was an open question for a long time.
Same. I would’ve loved it. But I also see why it was axed. It’s the same as the idea of a UNIT spinoff with Fourteen and Donna. It takes away from the main show
Since anything Mark Gatiss does with Dr Who has been middling at best and downright awful at worst, the thought of him a show runner is what I can best describe as "a lucky escape!" :)
Said just like a person who clearly hasn’t listened to Big Finish’s Spare Parts. Seriously, the best Doctor Who stuff Mark Gatiss has ever written have always been for tie-in media. I don’t know why, but this has always been the case.
Big Finish has kind of done what might have been Rose Tyler: Earth Defense. It's called the "Dimension Cannon Series." It deserves more recognition than it gets, and it's way better than DisneyWho. The Dimesion Cannon Series is Rose and her team (including her mother and father) jumping from universe to universe trying to find Jackie and Rose's Prime Universe and the Doctor before the TV episode "Journey's End." They even semi-subtly make fun of the Sliders parallels.
Honestly, I fail to see the difference between the Cybermen and the Toklafane (especially after Chibnall introduced the Cyber-drones). They're just a robotized human head in both cases. And they're used by the Master. Also, I remember the talks about the young Doctor spin-off! And I read somewhere back then that it was supposed to follow young Doctor and young Master being best friends and we wouldn't know which is which until towards the end of the show, making the loss of Doctor's best friend more devastating for us.
Okay, I thought the show sounded awful at first, but not knowing which is which for the whole season sounds genuinely awesome for a series. Back in 2005, it might not have worked, but all 3 showrunners have messed with the doctor's backstory so much at this point that a gallifrey spin-off wouldn't even be weird anymore
They have one small difference the cyber man are humans that have been stripped of all emotions and forced into been upgraded and I believe the Tolakfane haven't been stripped of there humanity they just are humans that ran out of options and maybe willingly except been converted.
@@alexanderrobertson9297 if you listen to the way the Toclafane talk, it seems to me that they have lost their humanity, but maybe through a different process? Cybermen get chipped with an emotional inhibitor when they are converted. Maybe the Toclafane just naturally went mad as they were experiencing the horrors at the end of the universe and doing whatever they could to survive...
Every time I see clips from Battlefield, I wonder if people notice that those knights on foot are wearing the helmets from Monty Python and the Holy Grail’s Knights of the Round Table song…
Honestly, a Rose Tyler Defender episode would've been interesting, as long as it came after season 4 instead, especially if the Meta-Crisis Doctor grew a new TARDIS from the piece The Doctor gave him in the deleted scene that Donna then instructed him how to quickly grow. THAT might've worked
@thiswillagenicely9702 that's kinda what I meant, namely that, but if it released after the season 4 finale had already been out. Guess I didn't word it quite right 😅
These bad ideas... we really need to step away from anyone with fanwank as their agenda. I want a series like 9 again but with all 1 parters, no daleks and nothing like eye crust as a monster.
Controversial opinion but I don't hate that the brigadier was brought back as a Cyberman in fact I think it's a pretty heartwarming ending for the brigadier to get that salute he always wanted from the doctor I know it seems a bit insensitive but the last thing the brigadier did was save his daughter so I don't see it as insensitive see it as somewhat a happy ending
You know, it's funny that Davies rejected an idea that could've wrecked the mystery of the Doctor and yet wouldn't denounce the Timeless Child which did exactly that. Also, I seem to recall that you put the Toclafane (who back then weren't named that) being a replacement for the Daleks in Dalek as one of your awesome ideas that never came to light. And I think you once talked about the reveal that the Doctor had created Rose to be the perfect companion and thought it wasn't too bad as it offered another side to the Doctor. Alongside everything in Doctor Who that has been happening ever since Peter Capaldi left, one idea I don't like is the Spy Master being after Missy; not only does it wreck Missy's character development, but I rather like the thought of the Doctor and the Master meeting out of order. You once questioned why they didn't as they're both time travellers like River and the audios have done it with the Master, so why not have him meet out of order onscreen with the Doctor?
Bad Ideea that actually happened letting STeven Moffet Run Doctor Who at the Same time that he ran Sherlock. It affected the quality of Doctor Who because the stories weren't as good as they could have been because Moffet was working on the more prestigous adaptation of Sherlock Holmes.
@@thebeardedmother1535 Nope. Maybe you should try rationalising* rather than doing misspelling. I’m an intelligent human being. That’s why I know I’m speaking the truth.
@@DrWhoFanJbuddy, could you stop arguing with everyone in existence? It's getting on everyone's nerves, and it's definitely not improving your mental health. Oh, and by the way, I'm pretty sure both spellings are correct. one of them is English and the other American, though I can't remember which is which.
The only issue with the Toclafane as a main villain 🦹♂️ is that it is *REALLY* hard to imagine far future humans realistically. For one they should be monogender, without biological sex and mass produced in artificial wombs/non-human wombs and raised by nations without any parents. It is just more efficient. Plus, they would be almost completely 👽 in personality and beliefs, but randomly have a few things similar or even emphasised. They are beyond the writers' ✍️ skills. 😅
I like the idea of a spin off which is the 14th doctor in about 30 years time when he has lived his life with Donna and she dies. He forces a regeneration and comes out of retirement. His tardis is dead and he’s stuck on earth sort of like a 1 man torchwood, make it an 18 and a bit more gruesome it could be like x files meets torchwood meets rick and Morty. I’d cast somebody like tnia miller in the role.
Im starting to lose confidence it RTD. The ending of last season made on damn sense. A god killed with a magic bungee cord??? Why did it snow? Normal woman but pointing at a sign made no sense.
@DrWhoFanJ wot? All I'm saying alot agree this series been a stinker maybe even worse the series 13. Not looking forward to what unanswered questions await ahead with awful plotlines. Only moffet can rescue this show for now for Christmas
Why would the proto-Toclofane episode be provisionally called "Spears"? Surely, as they're perfectly round, 'Spheres' would make more sense. Unless that's what she meant and forgot that ph is pronounced as f for the most part.
@@SnowLily06 It's nothing to do with accents, it's simply correct pronunciation. Even so, Ellie's accent - almost RP - would definitely pronounce it 'sfears'.
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I can see your point, being Turkish I'm not well versed on RP (let alone speak it), but I definitely hear "spears", whereas the closed captions read correctly as "spheres"... Confusing.
