Constructive critisism, when you talk about a subject as interesting, as this, it is a pitty that you do not focus on clips showcasing the feature more heavily, instead of using clips and driveby's where set feature is not even showed.
every generation of prelude had 4ws, it wasn't equipped on all trims, but it was in every generation, proud owner of a 4th gen SI AUDM prelude btw but I am looking to upgrade to the gallant VR4 soon
I thought the same thing being a 3kgt owner..,probably because as the title states "car's you probably Haven't heard of"...the 3kgt is pretty well known. :)
There was a '92 Prelude that I had the privilege of taking care of for a while that had four wheel steering. Half the time, it was disabled for some reason, but when it worked, it was an amazing system. Every vehicle I've owned since then has been consciously compared to it when it comes to steering, and I've always missed the tight turning at low speeds and stability at high speeds. It is truly a confusion to me, in this age of tech that we live in, why 4ws is still so uncommon in vehicles today? The benefits are substantial, and it seems the cost could be subsidized, but automakers don't seem to have a good reason to offer this as an option. Responses to this are encouraged.
Several GM trucks had electric 4WS including 2002-2004 Silverado 1/2 tons and some SUVs. I believe the Suburban could be ordered with it as well. My 2003 Chevy Silverado 1500HD has it and it works so great while backing with trailers, lane changing and sharp turning in tight quarters. It cuts 10' from my turning diameter while engaged as opposed to when I have it off. The rear wheels turn to the opposite direction when under 20 mph but in the same direction at 30+ mph for smoother lane changing. It has never given me a problem and requires almost no maintenance. It never caught on, however, due to it's high "accessory" cost of $4500. Even when GM reduced the cost to $3000 and then to $2000 it still sold too few vehicles with it to justify so it was not offered after the 2004 models. Too bad because it is really worth it.
@@octacle_ this sound is in most cars with fwd to because the reverse gear is designed different than the regular gears to prevent people to by accidentally putting it into reverse at speed. I only see this helpful for manual drivers like me but I think older automatics allowed you to put it in reverse at speed.
Dude, I can only repear myself, I love the voiceover, it's a great addition, and you satisfied the haters, too, there's enough engine sounds. Kudos man, keep up. Really love how informative your stuff is.
Porsche 928. The 928 Weissach rear axle was arguably Europe's most advanced axle ever and the breakthroughs pioneered with the system have found their way into almost every Porsche car to this day and still continue to be developed. The Weissach axle-stands for Winkel einstellende, selbst stabilisierende Ausgleichs-Charakteristik (angle-adjusting, self-stabilizing equalization characteristic)
Just to say that, at first, I didn't like that much that you speak over your video. But I think that you improved so much on that field that now I enjoy your latest videos as much as your former "mute" ones. Keep on the good work.
Its however you look at it. It was based on the year that they turned up the boost a little bit. Some old paper work used to say 300-310-315 for 91-92, then some said 320hp for 93 and up. Similar to Skylines 275HP, but made more and easy to get more. These cars can do that too, but a few years ago we figured out how to tweek or tune the stock ecu to get more out of it. Then if you go to dyno'd horsepower things matter even less... for example Corvette Zr1 claimed 638HP but only puts down 500-530ish on dyno. So yeah drivetrain loss etc... 3000GT/Stealth TT were around 240-270hp on dyno. Its not like I was saying what its tuned or modded HP output is. Its just the overall commonly used number.
4:03 I wish my s10 revved that high. Visio, my brother, dont listen to the trolls telling you your voice is bad or " I wish he'd stop talking " because, not to sound happy if ya know what I mean, but your accent is radically awesome and English and knowledge of cars is like you went back in time. YOURE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
I drive a Lincoln LS that has Passive Rear Steer. I love it! It makes the 3700LB sedan handle like a sports car as long as you have performance rubber. Some guys in an enthusiast group I'm in have converted it to regular non-rear steer and complain how the car doesn't handle very well. In fact, the passive rear steer helps the car rotate very well and, combined with AdvancTrac, makes the car perform incredible emergency lane change maneuvers.
The Citroen Xantia which was introduced at roughly the same time, implemented the same passive system as the Peugeot 306. The rear wheels steer along (not counter obviously) when cornering at somewhat higher speeds. This improves stability in long, fast bends on motorways.
Hi Visio! Apart from the cars you already presented, Alfa's 147 and 156 offer rear passive steering too, but with a modified McPherson scheme, with a trailing arm and double central links! Keep doing great vids man!
Passive rear wheel steering is used on a lot vehicles and isn't new by any means, although what's going on may not be obvious. Anything with a leaf-spring rear axle, AKA Hotchkiss drive, will have a degree of roll-induced rear steering due to the shackles, as does the Alfasud via asymmetric longitudinal Watts linkages. As for cornering force induced steering set-ups (can't think of a better term ATM), the Pug 306 arrangement was used on other PSA cars of that time like the 205 and on later ones. The Porshe 928 'Weissach axle' is another example.
Too bad I do not have my video finisched yet, because I have a Mazda 626 Coupé GT 4WS, and it is also a very rare model called Foha Limited Edition. This special edition was limited to 200 pcs, but only 167 pcs were built. And my 626 Coupe is one of 17 black ones they build right from Factory.
Omnitrx I was going to say the same thing, almost nobody besides die hard RX7 people know the FC had a passive 4WS system in it as well. Pretty neat stuff!
Yeah really! I have a 2nd gen and when it kicks in it's the oddest feeling XD It's like you think you're at the limit and then the car just keeps rotating it's back end while staying planted. Creepy feeling stuff. 2nd gen RX-7's don't get enough notification.
@@dr.dylansgame5583 I know the fc doesn't have fws. I'm pretty sure, but not positive, that the FD doesn't have any. The problem was the DTSS when it came to quickly transitioning between corners it couldnt transition fast enough. Thats why many FC owners remove it. It made more sense in the FC because that was "touring car" but since the FD was a much more focused sports car I'd take a guess and say that it didnt have it.
Saab 9-3 NG had the ReAxs chassis, which allowed the rear wheels to slightly steer, giving better handling and balance when cornering. Could've been an honorable mention :-) Great videos btw, keep up the good work!
Woo Peugeot 306! i've got a 306 Rallye. its an interesting feeling, you can definitely feel it when you are getting into the corners. the snapback is always fun was well!
Love my 850's cornering capabilities, you can throw it into any corner under heavy trail braking and the thing oversteers even through throttle. It's the only FWD car I've ever driven that can 4-wheel-drift.
I had a 1993 Ford Probe GT that had 4 wheel passive steering. Unlike active steering, it relied on the centripetal force during hard cornering to change the rear wheels alignment. That was the most fun I've ever had with a car! I ran the wheels off that sucker, LOL! It had its faults, like the exhaust kept falling off, the heads had to be replaced, and the clutch was junk. But when it was running, lord was it a fun ride, LOL!
In today's world where there is much less space to drive and turn specially on U-turns four wheel steering is a must, they should offer 0 degree turn when steering is at maximum locked position.
maaan, that Mitso Galant was AWD and 4WS at the same time - incredible! now I know why I have felt like there is something mysterious about this car whenever I've looked at it
No joke.... I did not know such technology existed. And I'm no stranger to cars. I thought it only existed on the Warthog in Halo. The more you know. Thanks Visio!
I have an mx6 and the 4ws system makes for a interesting and enjoyable driving experience. Would've loved to see more clips of the 4ws actually working but I guess there aren't that many good ones out there. nice video, and good english
Awesome video, never new the 300zx had it. Another car that had was the Toyota Celica ST185 Carlos Sainz Limited Edition. Awesome car to drive.. miss it!
I'd just like to point out that on the svx if it didn't come with active four wheel steering (95% as you said) it DID come with passive four wheel steering, similar to the volvo.
1968 Nissan 510 Bluebird, GT-R Skyline JDM, and the Datsun 510/1600 export had passive rear steering known as trail through steering. using an outward angled semi trailing arm rear suspension it introduced camber shift during body roll in corners.
you forgot the Dodge stealth, top model had a similar steering to the last mitsu model shown. my guess the mitsu 3000 GT also had the option, since the stealth was a reskinned 3000 gt
Thanks for the video. Researching all wheel steering systems with the goal of building a replica of Halos Warthog off a vehicle that already features it. Looks like I need a GMC Sierra.
One of the cool things about the Preludes AWS, was that the 3rd gen Prelude's AWS was fully mechanical. All the linkage was connected to the steering. No electronics, no hydraulics, none of that.
As a former Volvo 850 Turbo owner, I am jealous of the manual transmission. With the automatic, you drop below 4k rpm with the up shift, which also drops below boost.
Mazda 626 GD had 4WS also but only 1988-1990 and it was electronic/hydraulic. Under 35km/h opposite turning, over same direction. Biggest steering degree was +-5 degrees. :P
You forgot the Porsche 928. It had passive rear steering since its introduction in 1977. Years before any of these cars on the list got it. Because it operates using a piece of spring steel and a unique bushing in the lower a arm it can turn to nearly 20% of the front steering angle.
I had to disable my 4ws system in my MX-6, it was faulty. Coming to a stop at the lights, the rear would turn by itself, even though the front wheels weren't turning. Great technology when it works, but can be dangerous when it's not working properly.
I remember when I was younger I saw one of those GMC trucks that my neighbor owned making a U Turn on my street and i saw that his back wheels were crooked from that 4 wheel steering system. In my 10 year old wisdom i shouted at him to stop because his wheels were broken and were gonna fall off.
As a little kid (12 year old little boi) i didn't know this existed! Btw i hope you don't get that much hate because of your voice, for someone who's language is not natively english, is better than mine, so keep up the good work and do more amazing content like you did here!
How about a car that has 4 wheel steering, but few people actually know about it? The Ford Focus up to the 2011 in the USA had passive rear steering due to the independent, rear-trailing-arm setup and bushings. The more the suspension was compressed, the more toe out on the outside wheel (and toe in on the inside wheel, though the car leaning will affect the outer wheel more). With about a 1 inch drop with aftermarket or Ford Racing suspension (available on the SVTs and possibly others), this effect was greatly magnified. Not sure if this is true for the Mazda3/2012+Focus/Volvo C30/etc. chassis. Also the VW GTI (possibly the golf, not sure) starting with either the mkv or mkvi had pretty much the same set up.
Rods Ahed Im Italian I would really like to have a rumbling American V8.... However, we get nice car yes, but for almost double the price... Search for the price of a Ford mustang in the USA and in Europe... :(
Giovanni Quargentan But I love your European Peugeots, Vauxhalls, and especially old Lancias. I Mean, you people make some of the best 4 cylinders! And an M3 has more Horsepower than an I-roc Z, a V-8
