100 Mile Week Review: New Balance Rebel v4 

thank you! 🙌🏽💪🏽

Kind of a super flex 💪

​@@supwellthe shoes have to run the hard yards! You think Adi Boston 12 is leader for pavement LR, tempo?

He’s a beast!

thank you Ethan! 🙌🏽

thanks my man!

thank you!

thanks maggie! you can buy a stroller and put a few weights in it and call it a workout 😂

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yeah this is my favorite training shoe so far this year

I typically retire shoes around 300 to 350 miles - that's when the rubber starts to go in the back from my wear pattern and also when foam starts to not feel as protective. I'm planning to see how many miles I can get out of these for sure so stay tuned for more mileage updates

Yo Jose! Good to see you here in the comments! As one who grew up in Melrose and rode the Orange Line all the time from Oak Grove, I feel compelled to say not to forget to mention Medford and Somerville!

@@davebelcher8374 Yo! Hey Dave! Great to see you here too. Hope all is well. Of course those towns deserve their honorable mentions. It’s been awhile since I’ve road the Orange line and I live pretty close to it too.

mach 6 is definitely going through the gauntlet as well. such a great segment this year - i'm also super excited for that topo specter 2 which will have the 100% peba midsole but no plate

If you like the Mach 5, you'll love the rebel v4 as well - they're super similar. If you're running up to 10km max i wouldn't suggest a plated shoe

Go for the Mach 6 - really wish I went in for them over my Rebel v4. I had tried on some 6's at the running show and thought they were great comfy and good pop to them. However also tried on the freshfoam 1080 v13 and the SC Elites. Where based on the online reviews, went for the Rebel as seem to advocate it and having tried the two above and below shoes (which I was very impressed with) thought they must have a similar feel. However I'm wrong! They are okay just nothing special, nothing special comfort wise but no really pop/energy return either. I would even say I thought the freshfoam 1080's v13 are better with more pop to them. Surprisingly I would say they are no better than my Reebok Floatride 5 - which is crazy considering the price difference.

@@jamieoliverjones3775 thanks for the review mate. So rebel V4 is not bouncy enough for a tempo / interval training?

My guy! For sure - I will send you a few videos where I highlighted this and also will do another one featuring this soon. Stay tuned

hey dude i included all my meals from monday here in this video for you: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wtq94Gm8FvY.html there's lots of other stuff in that video on the shoe hahaha so you can use the timestamps i put in the description to just skip to the meals. also here's a video i did a few weeks ago that showed my full day of nutrition for a long run ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IQGmlm7PnqM.html and then this one i believe has all my meals too but no timestamps and also audio error in the beginning ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d78nZt-iL38.html here are some high-level thoughts that might be helpful - in general, tofu, tempeh, chickpeas and then "fake meats" are my biggest protein sources. for breakfast, tofu scramble is a great staple to replace eggs if that's been a big piece of your diet - cut and press the tofu to get the water out (you can lay the cut pieces between paper towels and then press) and then crumble the tofu in a browl and brown in a pan with olive oil with whatever veggies you want. usually i do peppers and onions and season with taco seasoning. for the fake meat, it's not the "cleanest" source of calories but it's a nice switch up from tofu/beans and i'm not super picky about that - my top brands outside the big ones you probably know about already like beyond and impossible are field roast, tofurkey sausages, gardein (their buffalo patties), sweet earth and the trader joes store brand and then here are some more meal ideas for you. jotted down a bunch of ideas top pre-run breakfasts: oatmeal with peanut butter and banana (for oatmeal i do 1 cup oats, 2 cups oat milk, turn on high until it bubbles then turn to low until the milk evaporates - takes about 7 minutes total) cinnamon raisin bagel with peanut butter, banana and honey (honey is made by bees so technically not vegan but it doesn't have cholesterol, which is the reason i went vegan, so i still eat it) cereal and oat milk toast with jam brunch/post-run breakfast: tofu scramble with toast/bagel waffles/pancakes and vegan breakfast sausage with fruit. best pancake recipe www.noracooks.com/vegan-pancakes/ smoothie: i used to make this smoothie almost everyday with two frozen bananas, one or two un-pitted dates (depending on how sweet you want it and how sweet the protein is), two tablespoons peanut butter, small handful of ice and two to three cups of oat milk (not sure exact quantity - you can eyeball it until you figure out how you like the consistency), cocoa powder and/or chocolate protein powder. i don't use protein powder anymore but the aloha brand used to be my go-to avocado toast snacks: bagels. lol this is a staple for me cereal with oat milk hummus and carrots granola and oat milk with peanut butter. homemade granola is super easy to make - charli usually does this one so i'll get her recipe for you easy lunch ideas: chickpea salad (tuna salad dupe) - drain chickpeas, mix with vegan mayo, dried cranberries, sunflower seeds, sea salt. i like this open faced on a toasted everything bagel. sometimes on long run days i like to have this with kettle bbq chips on the side for a little extra crunch and flavor. it's also good with pretzels/carrots/sliced red peppers on the side if you don't want the chips buffalo chickpea salad - drain chickpeas, mix with vegan mayo and smash with fork until chickpeas are blended together but not a paste (it's an art not a science), franks red hot, sunflower seeds, chopped celery. pasta with frozen peas and sausage (i like to sautee sausage in olive oil. cut into rounds and brown on both sides - then add on top of pasta when finished). easy pasta sauce is nutritional yeast, earth balance, olive oil, oat milk. melt butter and a little flour with the milk before adding pasta back in if you want a thicker bodied sauce. without flour it's good too but thinner pre-made frozen burritos - rice, beans, salsa, vegan cheese, vegan chorizo. pre make and put in freezer so they're ready whenever you need them - bake for 35 mins on 375 tempeh bacon blt simple vegan dinners: teriyaki tofu with broccoli and rice sheetpan bake: beyond sausages, brussels sprouts, onions and peppers on a cookie sheet. vegan cacio e pepe. try the NYT recipe - it's fire cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1020729-vegan-cacio-e-pepe quinoa bowl: roasted chickpeas, cauliflower, sweet potatoes, carrots with tahini sauce southern bbq meal: bbq tempeh, olive oil and garlic sauteed green beans, grits pantry/fridge staples you might not have now: nutritional yeast - adds cheesy flavor to sauces oat milk - it's worth it over soy/almond. it has a better body to it than other dairy-free milks. i like the full fat versions tofu - firm or extra firm tempeh - any brand is fine but lightlife is a popular one. they have pre seasoned tempeh bacon and buffalo tempeh that are pretty fire too olive oil - main cooking oil peanut butter - you probably do have this now but it's good to have a ton around when switching to a vegan diet to make sure you can always get in easy protein if you're feeling like you're not getting enough. i used to eat spoonfuls out of the jar in the beginning when i was figuring out how to get my diet right lol teriyaki sauce - easy way to flavor tofu taco seasoning - easy way to flavor tofu scramble (i can eat this multiple times per week) earth balance - our go-to vegan butter follow your heart vegan parmesan - for pasta topping follow your heart vegan cheese slices - for sandwiches/melting daiya cheese - also a good cheese option that's sold pretty much everywhere if you have a sweet tooth: justin's peanut butter/almond butter cups are vegan (most are but some aren't - make sure to check label) ben and jerrys has tons of vegan options abe's muffins - these are a good sweet snack with decent ingredients. sold at whole foods alright i think that's the end of the brain dump hahaha lmk if any questions on the above - happy to share more insights and can also get some more ideas for you from charli

in my own rotation i will probably run in the speed 4 only when doing comparison videos since i prefer the boston 12 for fast workouts and the sc trainer v2 for relaxed running. if i only had those two shoes though (rebel and speed), i would pick the speed 4 for any run over 90 minutes. i love the rebel v4 but i prefer having more cushion for longer runs

@@supwell Got it! Tks man and keep up the energy here 👏🏻

i prefer the rebel over the speed 4 - i like the simpler, lightweight feel, and if i'm going to use a plated shoe for speedwork i prefer something firmer and more rigid than the speed 4. the key point in favor of the speed 4 though is that it's a lot more protective and better for 90+ minute runs - when i went 23 miles in the rebel it handled it pretty well but i would prefer more cushion. so if you're looking for a fun everyday running shoe, i'd go with the rebel, but if you want something for longer runs, then the speed 4. here's the full video i did comparing those two ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fldH9Ufc1rE.html&lc=Ugx3wAakzvTEFDrbVVt4AaABAg

I have a pair of 880v14 in the queue for testing - stay tuned

triumph is one of my favorite long run shoes from the past year. and thanks for the rec on the evoride speed - I'll add to the list

@@supwell yes they are great. Can’t wait to see how the 22 is going to be like. thanks 🙏 cheers

I would take the 1080 for moderate only everyday running - it's more supportive and comfortable. It's also extremely soft so another cushioned option that a lot of bigger runners like is the Asics novablast 4. It's got a little more structure and bounce to it than the 1080. Here are links to both on the site - let me know if you have any questions www.supwell.io/shoes/new-balance-1080v13 www.supwell.io/shoes/asics-novablast-4

Glad you are enjoying them! And yeah I prefer the rebel v4 for tempo style workouts over the novablast. Novablast is my preference for longer and more relaxed runs

Thank you so much for the recommendation 😊 always afraid to try new shoes but these are amazing. I'm buying a pair for rebels for walking shoes too. You are one of the best reviewers out there ☺️

Hey man thanks for asking - I'll add this one to the list. btw any luck on finding a good deal on jogging stroller?

Yes! We had friends recommend and give us a deal on their Thule urban glide 2. They recommended that and the Bob. They bought the Thule single and double later for the second kid. Thanks for asking!

awesome i've heard great things about that one as well@@calvindorsey8380

It's a lot different in this generation - not as much bounce compared to the Rebel v3 and SC Trainer v2. A good option would be the Mach 6 if you want that bouncy feel. It does have more stack at 37mm but it's still super lightweight and great for running fast. I did a comparison with the rebel earlier this week ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bc-XkbBFt3g.htmlsi=Z-kOuTZQq30wkq4t

@@supwell thanks! Love the comparison videos.

I'll see if I can get that one in. I have a New Balance trail shoe here I'm waiting to test - hoping to get more time on the trails later this spring/summer

@@supwell nice one 🙌🏻

Great question - I wouldn't use this for a full marathon. There are more cushioned options that have a wider forefoot. From new balance the SC elite v4 is a great choice!

Both are good for faster running and daily miles but Superblast is much more cushioned and protective (45mm heel stack in superblast vs 30mm in the rebel). The rebel isn't great for runs over 90 minutes. If you can get both they would be a great pairing with the rebel for shorter runs/faster speed work and the superblast for longer runs and marathon pace. Rebel is also solid for recovery runs. If you can only get one though you'll probably be happier with the superblast given the long runs you'll be doing for training

Invincible 3 is a lot more cushioned and bouncy - I wouldn't suggest either the invincible or the rebel for recovery. Invincible is a little to energetic and bouncy for recovery days and rebel doesn't have as much cushion as other options. My favorite cushioned shoe for recovery is the new balance 1080v13 - super soft shoe with a protective feel and comfortable upper

@@supwell Great. Thank you for the prompt reply. I may be partial to a bouncy and cushiony ride after 7-8 miles in the Vaporfly. Thanks again.

Dang it went up early on one website in the US (hibbett sports) and I just checked so I could send it to you but now it's taken down

Oh … what is that website ?? 😮.. that website is still selling the v3 for $130. Rip-off.

The softer shoes help your PF? With me it is the opposite - super squishy shoes like Nimbus really aggravate my PF which is counterintuitive

Montre coros pace 3

Definitely the Boston 12 for long runs - it has much more cushion and is a lot more supportive

​@@supwellThanks!

You always need another pair of shoes… 💀

for runs up to 12 miles i would suggest something with a little more cushion underfoot. two of my favorites right now are the asics novablast 4 and the puma deviate nitro 2. novablast is more cushioned and little better for relaxed paces while the deviate nitro 2 is bouncy and better for faster running. lots of people do like the superblast but i'm not a fan personally - it always forces me to run faster than i want for daily miles and doesn't feel as comfortable for me as the novablast 4, which is $60 cheaper

@@supwell okay I appreciate that so much thank you ! When you say relaxed runs is that all preference on like a specific pace ? Like for me I usually hold 8-8:30 pace when doing 8-10miles

@@MobBless97 it depends on your own pace! i think you'd do well with the novablast 4 at that pace though. it's decently versatile and also super comfortable

@@supwell okay thank you

1080v13 feels a lot softer and more cushioned than the rebel. The only other shoe I've tried that's just as soft as the 1080 or even a little softer is the Asics gel-nimbus. You may want to try that if you want a supportive, soft cushioned shoe. The nimbus 25 is on sale for $120 right now so is also a good deal

@@supwell Thanks. I'm also considering the Nimbus 26 for maximum cushioning. I've heard some RU-vidrs mention that the Nimbus 26 and Nimbus 25 offer the same level of maximum cushioning.

@@thunderunbox33yeah 25 and 26 are very similar - they made minor changes to the rubber outsole and upper. You can find the 25 for at least $40 cheaper so I'd highly recommend going with the 25

I have the rebel v3 at 250 and they still feel okay. I think the foam in the v4 will get some more life because it feels more like a traditional Eva which is more durable, plus the rubber coverage is better. They should get 300 miles/500km easily. I plan to get mine to 200 miles within the next few months and do an update

So far for sure

1080 is very similar to the nimbus. i would suggest this over the 1080 but you may prefer the mach over both. has a little more cushion than the rebel for those zone 2 miles but is also super fun to run in. comparison video of mach 6 vs rebel v4 is coming soon so stay tuned

@@supwell that’s great info thanks!

Dang sorry to hear it didn't work for you! If you want a fun new balance with that higher stack range you may have better luck with the upcoming Balos - it's going to have more of the PEBA race day foam than the rebel and a higher stack so should feel bouncier and more cushioned

Thanks for the suggestion! Looking forward to that release (not the price point)!

Ooooh, I'm a similar build and I was seriously considering a pair of these but now I'm not so sure! This is why it's always good to go though all the comments

Mach 6 is also a great choice and I think most people will like it more than rebel v4 anyway - it's a little bouncier and more cushioned

i would go with the same size as your street shoes. it fits me well in my normal shoe size

@@supwell thanks so much for the advice. It’s really helpful. Great channels

not sure if it's legit or not but there was a leak on instagram last week of a shoe that looked like the rebel but with a much lower stack

I think the sc trainer v3 will feel like a taller plated version of the rebel. The sc elite v4 feels pretty different from this- sc elite has more foam and felt a lot firmer at slower paces than the rebel. Also the fuelcell formula is different - in the sc elite it's 100% PEBA and in here it's 20% PEBA and 80% Eva

@@supwell thinking if sc4 will breaking like the rebel, with a more pleaseant ride for long and slow runs, but maybe thats the purpose of sc trainer. Tks for the answer, and sorry about my english, i'm from brazil. Congrats!

Haven't had that issue - feels great at 100 miles still

hahaha yeah it's not ideal - i wish one of these brands had a long version

will be covering the mach 6 soon - i'm super excited about that one

@@supwell Cant wait bro. Your channel is blowing up I'm excited for all future content.

Depends what you're looking for! v4 has more of a daily trainer feel and v3 has more of a speed training vibe. So if you want something for everyday use I'd go v4 and if you want something for fast running only then v3

@supwell thanks for the reply! I am looking for more of a non plated speed shoe for workouts so sounds like V3 for me (for now!)

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Coros pace 3! It's been solid for me and it's one of the most affordable running watches

@@supwell thanks for that quick answer. You should make a video about the watch , I think people will find it useful

it said black/silver online but it's closer to navy. could have some deep purplish tones in a certain light

@@supwell Awesome, thank you! Probably will wait for some other colorways to release. Loving your content!

how many miles do you have in them? i really started enjoying them around mile 30

Only about 20 miles at this point. Started having problems with my right calf after the first run and the last several times I’ve run in them. The weight of the shoe is fantastic, but I’m having difficulty with lockdown, also.

my guy! thank you. i wasn't a big T rider but often took the lowell line in to the city

@@supwell Yup, me too. You said Wellington, which was one of the stops on the T from Lowell to Boston.

Part of the reason we had a revolution. Most people think it was taxes.