The best camera work/direction in the biz, especially the artistic setup when you look at us through the rear view mirror as if we're your passengers in the back seat. Brilliant! Keep up the good work.
That was the best video on the f150 I have seen so far..👍👍. Your channel is changing the way we think about the environment.. I do agree with you they should fix this charging station problem that would be nice.
Wow, thank you stewy! That is a big compliment we take to heart. We hope with the upcoming NEVI charging station deployment there will be increased reliability and availability of more CCS stations that create a seamless charging experience for all EV drivers.
3:28 Battery cells and modules are produced in Georgia by SK. Magna assembles the enclosure in Ontario. The enclosure is filled (modules, busbars, etc) and sealed with the modules at Rawsonville.
You've shed light on each individual step for today's F150 Lightning battery production. We have to draw the line somewhere to keep the video under 40 minutes so thank you for sharing your insights and expanding on what we have offered.
The CCS network is troubled in the US due to poor reliability. Distribution is pretty good and there is hope for it. The Tesla charging network is excellent coast to coast.
This is very informative. Interesting that 80% of reservation holders were first time EV buyers. Also, I really hope the 3rd party charging network gets their act together. That’s a real problem. Keep up the good work!
Charging networks in the wild leave a lot to be desired. Yet, there is no one to blame. Free market forces have not found their way to EV Fast Chargers yet. The largest, Electrify America, is a subsidiary of Volkswagen. Which only built out the stations they did because they were convicted of fraud and part of their punishment was to take $2 billion dollars and dump it into building a charging network. Typically that is not the way to get great results.
FYI. Most people think "Electrify America", because of the name, has something to do with a government agency, or is an American company trying to be great stewards of the EV transition. It isn't. Electrify America is a subsidiary of Volkswagen. VW was found quilty of fraud during dieselgate and the courts ordered Volkswagen to spend $2 billion dollars on building EV chargers across America. Their motivation is not to have the best, most reliable charging stations in the world. Yes they use outside vendors to build the chargers to their specs, but VW is responsible for picking who builds the chargers, and to what tolerances. Sigh.
So Ford’s ultimatum to dealers over selling EVs is a brilliant way to build out a Ford DC charging network. As a Mach E owner, the dealer network was part of the decision process. We wanted some form of dealer support if there were problems. But Knowing that we could charge at any small town ford dealership is huge. Game changer for travel. Just did a day trip and if we could have charged (if needed) in one of the rural communities we passed, that would have made the trip even better.
I'm with you, hoping for a future with reliable CCS fast charging. If franchise dealerships are part of that equation, I'll take it. At the moment the franchise dealerships seem to add questionnaire benefit and enormous mark-ups to legacy automaker EVs.
@@MissGoElectric the dealership model needs work for sure. And Ford’s plan is brilliant for Ford and customers but I question the benefit to the dealers to have fast charging available for cars which have little maintenance. So I’m waiting to see what type of uptake Ford has with this plan. Fast Chargers at rural dealers would be best for customers yet those dealerships are the least likely to buy in to Ford’s plan, I would think. The only caveat is the F150 Lightning: the rural dealers make their $$ on pickups. So it could go either way.
@@loriallen67 Each legacy automaker is wrestling with the same challenge. How can they compete with lean new competitors while funding hundreds of very expensive car lots and their wealthy franchise owners? Winning with a leak in the ship like powerful middlemen is tough. Incoming government DC quick charging infrastructure could be the fix automakers need to compete with Tesla's excellent fast charging network.
I don't believe it's fair for ford to dump the charging infrastructure problem on the dealers. The one and only dealer in my area that sells at MSRP says there's no way that will be paying ford $1.2 million to provide chargers. I believe that ford needs to partner with ithe EV manufacturers to expand their charging network. I don't believe the dealers are going to get involved in this and I certainly don't blame them. Ford has made it clear they'd like to just bypass dealers and sell their EV's online.
@@loriallen67 I don't believe my local dealers are going to get involved in this new plan Ford has to build their charging infrastructure, and I can't blame them. Ford wants them to pay $1.2 million each for this. It's extortion as far as I'm concerned and besides that local people aren't going to pay $.43/kwh when they can charge at home for $.12/kwh.
This video is a huge motivator to bone up on the whole charging thing while I await delivery of my Lightning in a couple of months. Early adopters face a lot of challenges, but it's exciting to get in early and see how things evolve.
I’m curious about how operating the air conditioning effects/reduces the number of mile’s available on a charge? Also , I’ve read that heating an electric vehicle in wintertime seriously reduces available mileage per charge? Information is greatly appreciated 👍
Well, this summer I've been leaving the truck running with AC on when I run errands, but unfortunately can't comment on how much static time eats up 1% of charge. I rarely run my battery down below 50%, so I simply haven't paid attention.@@BartlettTFD
Loved this review! It answers all my questions and shows just how important the charging situation is for a good electric car experience. Nice job, Miss GoElectric!
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I've been waiting for this episode! By far, it is the best review of the F-150 Lightning that I've watched. Indeed, perhaps the most thorough and informative review you've done, Laycee. You are the consumate professional! This EV truck looks like a real winner, and I'll be passing along the link to pickup driving family members. As for the DCFC network… not so much. Those 3rd-party providers really need to up their game ASAP. Funny enough, the music you had been listening to at your first charging stop hits the nail on the head: "She Looks So Perfect"!
Thanks Mark! Our BMW iX review has been going strong and we filmed that one in 1/10th the time. If this video can be as helpful to EV buyers as that one has been, we will be thrilled. PS- we knew you would be the one to spot that unexpected music displayed😂
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I don't know for sure, but it seems like the Electrify America network is a poorly run operation. Here in Kentucky, an east end Louisville EA station has been sitting for months, but never activated. Compared to the Tesla Supercharger network I would never rely on the CCS charging network for any kind of long distance driving. And the plight of Chademo is even worse. My Nissan Leaf has never ventured more than 40 miles from home base. Electricity is everywhere, but everyone except Tesla are dragging their feet.
Electrify America is the product of the settlement from Volkswagen’s diesel gate so there isn’t the same incentive for quality that the other charging networks have. Tesla’s superiority is because of their vertical integration of software and hardware married to their vehicles with their charging stations and network. In that way Tesla is like Apple.
Truth. For those looking to understand the basics of DC fast charging, the first half of this video might be helpful: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rpFsgSNngo0.html
Agreed. I have the Ford now, and I have owned Tesla’s in the past. I don’t understand why other manufacturers or charging companies can’t get their act together. I think what you see, is the advantage of going with a pure electric auto maker versus an OEM. Rivian is installing chargers in places they think their customers will want them. And Tesla knew they needed to put the infrastructure in in order to make it work.
@@MissGoElectric I may have sent this to you before but here it is again. The excellent RU-vidr/explainer Alec Watson did a video about home charging stations (22) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RMxB7zA-e4Y.html
Now being able to charge the F150 Lightning on Tesla's charging network is a game changer. I also heard that the 24 F150 Lightning will include a heatpump, which is great news. I currently have the F150 Powerboost hybrid but I'll be switching to the full EV F150 in the next couple of years.
It is not possible to charge non-Teslas on the NACS Tesla Supercharger stations. As we mentioned in the description...we are excited for 2024 when that compatibility comes online. Thank you for watching and commenting.
My XLT Standard range has a manual tailgate. This is fine with me- one less thing to go wrong. Power assist tailgate may be available as an option but it is not on my truck. Thanks for a comprehensive review of this truck. Just 1,100 miles for me so far and the truck is running nicely.
You are quite the EV ambassador. Thank you for your service. I was shocked when you filled up from 18% - 86% (I think) and you were charged for 95kWhs when your battery capacity is the same. That would be like pumping gas while holes in the station's equipment causing gas to leak all over the place and you have to pay for it. When I saw $40 to fill an EV my mouth dropped. This is the first time in 2 years that I am thinking this transition to EVs may not be so easy. I did pay as high as $.33/kWh on a trip, but I only pay $.05/kWh at home. I'm going to have to figure out if I am losing kWhs while supercharging. That does not seem fair to consumers. The level of detail you got between the app and the station was impressive. Great job.
Thank you for your compliment. To be clear, the battery capacity of the truck we tested is over 130kWh. We have seen rates for CCS DC fast chargers as high as $1/kWh. Network operators gauging at the station level, utilities gauging at the meter, installation companies gauging at the onset, or governments adding taxes are examples of forces which could invert the value proposition of road tripping with an EV compared to ICE. We have read through the plans for the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) spending is where we are based in Michigan. The plan projects spending of $80,000 PER STATION. Tesla can deploy at least five stations for the same cost and Tesla's V3 stations are faster and more reliable than the CCS solutions proposed. Public sector charging station projects tend to be very costly in part due to the friction of regional intermediaries, bureaucratic waste, and limited bidding contractor competition, and a lack of cohesive national scale. Too often, the parties involved with CCS DC fast charging projects face the media for progress headlines and ribbon cutting photographs, then vanish. Unacceptable per kWh costs be one side effect of excessive spending and disjointed accountability. Free and easy money which is deployed rapidly is a recipe for malinvestment. We don't know what the solution is, but it sure is an advantage for Tesla buyers for the time being.
@@MissGoElectric Thank you for the clarification. What will end up happening if Tesla doesn't match the local rates (not sayin' they should) is all EVs will just use Supercharging locations and the degradation on the gov sponsored ones will be accelerated. You would think if the gov is funding the build out they could do their price caps to incentivize adoption, then gouge later LOL.
This is a great video and only makes me want one more. The thing not mentioned in the video however is that if you didn't have the forethought to resserve one, you are looking at possibly 2025 before getting this vehicle. I do wish they would ramp up production more to put out more vehicles a year.
Thanks for your compliment about our work! We understand that acquisition realities are ever shifting. Who knows what their ramp will look like in a few months.
What a great review. I learned some things for sure (and I've been researching this truck for a long time). My Lightning is scheduled to come in by March. I'm really on the fence since they forced my to order a Lariat (or have nothing). With rebates, the original base model was going to be around $28,000. With price increases (and loss of the rebate in 2023 for me) the truck is now about $77,000. That seems to be a lot for a truck that I can drive about 2 hours between charges. I'm still probably going to take delivery and check it out.
The new IRA program subsidizes a whole lot of vehicles which burn gas and excludes many of the very best EVs. Combined with Ford's frequent price hikes I can see how a buyer would have mixed feelings right now. Tag us on social media when you've posted about your new truck after delivery. We are always curious to hear about our commenter's new EV experiences.
The prices have to come down. With so many people backing out of their reservations and these things piling up on lots, I’m very hopeful to pick one up next year some time.
The best part about factory installed GPS systems is that all of the maps and information are stored in the car’s memory and is not as up to date. If you take a trip away from cellular service, which is easy to do in the mountains or the desserts of the western USA, the onboard system will function normally, except for things like traffic and weather data. Google and Apple rely on a cellular connection and they will be almost useless away from service. My Tesla ends up showing a blurry map with no way to navigate to places. We were just in Yellowstone with almost no service from T-Mobile. Our CarPlay screen went blank as soon as we ran out of map data. A “cheap” portable GPS would’ve worked perfectly instead of trying to use our phones. Califonia has many big areas with no service, like crossing the Sierra Nevada.
@@MissGoElectric I get tired of the constant complaining that Teslas don’t have Apple CarPlay or AndroidAuto, but try it in your Rivian driving way up in the mountains. They had better stock up on paper maps when off in the wilderness. I did see someone post that the Lucid Air has a feature that lets you download map data, but I have not verified it.
Ford advertises 15%-85% charge in 36 minutes at a 150kW+ DC Quick Charger. The Lightning now supports battery pre-conditioning which makes fast charging possible even in cold temperatures.
19:15 In general I agree with you not needing a 350 Kw charger for the Lightning. However, it is important to note that many have reported a 5-10min "surge" of 170Kw 'ish power when you first plug in. It should only decrease your time by a few minutes, but with if its not a busy time and you'll be there only for a quick stop it may be of benefit to get just a bit more. I would definitely use common sense with that and NOT plug into a 350Kw for a long charge if there is a chance someone who really needs it would show up
Since most new Lightning owners have never owned an EV we felt it was important to include some etiquette. We understand for a very short period of time you might be able to hit higher rates but since you can't see the rate in the app/on the instrument cluster to know when that peak drops (if away from the station to read it) coupled with the fact the time savings being minimal, it is better to lean towards friendly EV charging practices to benefit all EV users with different capabilities. Most of the general public isn't as nerdy as us early EV adopters :)
I love the idea of an all electric truck. The problem is there are a way to many people who don't live close enough to a charging station for an electric truck to do them any good. Even if they do live close to a charging station, the time to charge is still way to slow. This will get better as the tech better and the infrastructure gets larger. In the mean time, I believe a suitable stopgap measure is for electric vehicles to be equipped with range extending generators similar to in idea to the chevy volt from 2014, but with more efficient less polluting generators. If we were really smart, the range extending generator could be hydrogen fuel cell powered.
Thank you for joining us. EV drivers do not use charging stations close to their home because that electricity is expensive and inconvenient. DC Fast chargers near a driver's home should not be a factor when deciding if an EV is a good choice. Well over 90% of EV charging is done at the driver's home on a private charger. Federal and state governments as well as utility companies subsidize home charging station installation mostly or even entirely in some cases. Charging an F150 Lightning at home can be completed overnight for most drivers. It is convenient and very inexpensive. When taking long trips far from home, the fast charging network is very important. As we've shown, it can be an annoying process today. By this time next year the situation will be much better because the government is subsidizing and heavily regulating hundreds of thousands of new fast chargers which will be found at least every 50 miles along all major highway corridors in every state.
Thanks for the review... Ford Lover here and I'll stay with my 7.3 liter F 250 Super Duty for hauling 4 Horse Goose-neck Slant-load. Hay and Feed loads and 4 Wheeling...
@@MissGoElectric Present battery technology is not capable of replacing petroleum based fuels in vehicles. Electric Power Plants are over 70% combustion of coal, peat, natural gas, diesel, gasoline, etc... Retired electrician here. I've helped build many power plants
@@MissGoElectric We have to have personal electricity sources. Be it, Solar, or something... The grid cannot handle a nation of battery powered vehicles. It can't even handle a hot july day now!
As usual, excellent review! Your world's fair site coverage was a great bonus. Would love to see you do a similar segment on the old Ford Rotunda building in Dearborn which burned down decades ago.
Thank you for joining us for this review Steve! We recently filmed an in-depth review Nissan's top of the line Ariya e4orce (AWD) Platinum + trim. We look forward to editing and publishing soon.
I've been looking up F150 Lightening reviews today and most are all about things they don't like about it with click bait titles and photos. I refuse to watch the click bait ones. This review is the most detailed review I've seen of any electric vehicle. I appreciate all the info that was provided and including a road trip. This has been very helpful!
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I leased a Mustang Mach-E for a year, and unfortunately my experience with Electrify America was similar to yours. With the resources of the largest automaker in the world, Volkswagen, behind it, and Ford depending on the system as well, it should be much better than it actually is.
That is a shame to hear your Electrify America charging experience was less than ideal with the Mustang Mach E. We love that vehicle. Volkswagen was forced to create EA because of their diesel-gate scandal. We understand the challenges they are facing as a result of expanding the network too quickly and relying on vendors to provide hardware. Now that Siemens is an investor and EA is starting to replace many first generation units. Some sites are incorporating energy storage onsite. We hope EA reliability improves. I would hate to see federal infrastructure money doled out to networks which have proven they will not maintain their stations or offer reliability for their users at or near the level of Tesla's network. We need reliable charging infrastructure for all EV drivers.
If all of the stations were down, as we have seen before, we would have called them. We've dealt with their phone support many times and they are able to remotely solve problems occasionally. By contrast we have charged on Tesla's network several hundred times and have never needed support.
Thank you for your encouraging words and for joining our channel. We hope you'll subscribe for more. The Nissan Ariya review is coming soon. Ford just announced a sizeable price drop on the Lightning on most trims. Great to see.
In the next 3-4 years I am planning on getting one. It's going to be an extended range Lariat because I like the features of that. One added benefit of waiting now is that starting with the '25 model year, the Lightning will have the NACS (Tesla) plug and that will eliminate a large problem with the Charge America charging station problems.
Even the Lightning trucks sold today will be able to charge on Tesla's Supercharger network starting in spring in 2024 using the forthcoming NACS adapter. There is an entirely different EV truck coming from Ford which will have the native NACS port, thusly requiring an adapter to use CCS stations. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim
It's possible to charge the F150 Lightning on Tesla's charging network today at select locations, which is awesome! I agree though, having the Lightnings come off the assembly floor with the NACS port will be even better.
Good info, I have an XLT reservation converted to order scheduled for build this month. Trying not to get excited until I get a VIN. Will be my 6th F150.
We love to see a brand earn that kind of loyalty and are thrilled that you've decided to go electric. We hope you'll tag us in your social media posts if you make some when you get it!!
Nice video. Detailed overview and very comfortable in front of the camera. Put a little more energy into the editing style and you have a winning combo
SUB’d. Excellent video. Electrify America is improving. Slowly but we see better availability of better working chargers and generation 4 chargers appearing between Los Angeles and ‘Vegas.
Thank you for subscribing. We hope honest testimonials will be part of the motivation charging service providers need to improve reliability and uptime. Most of our EV advocate peers here on RU-vid are also shining a light on the extent to which the CCS network is hampering non-Tesla EV adoption.
The blue cruise hands free isn't all that great anyway. Actually, I don't even care much for the lane centering because you have to constantly steer against it else you get warnings to put hands on steering wheel, even if both hands are on the wheel. Anti collision is great and love how it slows down when coming up on a slower vehicle.
That charging issue is why I am looking forward to ford vehicles being able to use tesla charging stations in the future. Electrify America is just not reliable enough and the saturation of charging stations is not high enough for this to be ok.
NACS support announced after this video was published changes everything. The recent $10k price drop also greatly improves the value proposition. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I think I might go back to loving Ford again it's pretty impressive of all the details my only worry is battery replacement or possibly fires but that's just my personal problem 🙂.great review
Gas cars are much more likely to catch fire. Batteries slowly lose capacity but rarely stop working like engines do. At the end of life, Ford buys the batteries and will recycle the materials into new batteries. To me, that is one of the best features of batteries. We don't exhaust the valuable raw materials using them.
That is why (non-Tesla) EV owners very rarely charge publicly. If you can't charge at home, we do not recommend an EV to you. These trucks will be able to charge on Tesla's network next year. That fixes that.
100+ degree heat makes all EVs go further, from what I have seen. Tesla used to have a slider on their website back in the day for ambient temp but they just left it with the EPA numbers in the end.
Start and stop traffic would be terrific for the F150 Lightning due to the regenerative braking and hands-off Ford BlueCruise. No sweat. We were very impressed with the build quality and encountered no errors of any kind.
One major thing the Lightning has going for it is that it looks like an actual pickup. That god awful Silverado EV, Cybertruck, and Hummer have absolutely no appeal to me as a truck enthusiast. Ford nailed the design here
If it isn't broken, why fix it? Certainly for the F150 crowd this is an ideal choice. CEO Jim Farley told us the next electric truck will be very efficient and will be a major aesthetic departure. If the numbers work out for that one, we think it will also find a wide audience.
I received the powertrain/malfunction reduced power alert and was only able to travel 10 mph😩currently at dealer with possible battery cell replacement. Round 1 FIGHT!
Excellent review as I’m always interested in other EV’s. Currently have a 2022 model 3LR that has been great. We don’t use the supercharger often but when we do it’s been perfect. Why do other non-Tesla DCFC’s seem to have so many issues? I still have a 1/2 ton ICE truck that I will replace in the next few years and unless I stick with my place in line for the CT it will be something non-Tesla….so the thought of road-trips are a concern.
As noted in the video description, the Lightning will work on the excellent Tesla supercharger network starting in 2024. Problem solved. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim
Electrify america needs to get their act together. People are dependent on these chargers working and information of down chargers to be accurate. And way overpriced costs per kwh, even if you pay the $4/month your costs are $.31/kwh which is still too high. I do want to say you've done a excellent job in reviewing the lightning.
I have a Ford Lightning with a 98kwh battery and a 30 amp output in the bed that I'll use to power my Go Play 26BH travel trailer (which comes with 200 watts of solar). What is a good way to charge the truck adequately off grid (will 120 volts be adequate, or do I need 240 volts?)? I will be using the 15,000 btu a/c. TIA
I've been watching this video and was amazed not only by the product but also by how much information Miss GoElectric had put in it. I have watched countless videos on RU-vid about all sorts of car/vehicle reviews they would feel taking your time just for a little information . . . Great work
Main drawback.. a storm caused our electricity to go out last night for 8 hours! Rather common in rural areas. The EV’s are excessively heavy and let’s see how they hold up after 100,000 miles.
We live in a rural area and our power goes out frequently. The huge battery in our electric truck powers our house when that happens and it can do so for more than a week. Electric trucks like the F150 and the Cybertruck weigh about 20% more than their gasoline competitors but deliver much more torque, acceleration, and lower cabin noise levels. Remember, there are already 30 million EVs on the road worldwide with volume production starting 14 years ago. All EV batteries are warrantied for at least 100,000 miles. Tesla Cybertruck for example is covered for 150k. The batteries are made to outlast the vehicles they are in. www.thecooldown.com/green-business/tesla-model-s-battery-australia-nigel/ -Producer Tim
I spent a week camping with friends in western Colorado, I will not go into any details but do not take an EV backwoods camping unless you have a friend like me who has a 30kWh solar system on their gasoline powered off road RV set up. And even then, realize that you will owe your friend (that's me Joe) for the rest of your life for getting you back out of those mountains.
This truck would not be our first choice for overlanding. In the conclusion of this video we stress that this is not a truck we would take on long trips, but is well suited as a regional work truck or an everyday lifestyle vehicle. Thank you for watching and for commenting!
Nice but I just want to relax at my fuel station. I don’t want sit and calculate things while I’m resting. Don’t get me wrong here . Love these EVs. But geez. Apps calculate, watching . I’m all stressed out. lol
Remember, this review was filmed in 2022. Since then, Ford has added support for the massive and nationwide Tesla Supercharging network. Consequently, there is no longer a need to worry about charger reliability or density. Tesla has dominated the market regarding effortless long distance travel in large part due to their network and also because their navigation does the work for the rider. Ford has made great strides towards matching that user experience. Thanks for sharing your perspective. We hope you'll subscribe for more. -Producer Tim
The latest update is supposed to allow ford pass to turn pro power on and off, but it's not showing up on my ford pass app. I'd love to be able to view the 360 degree cameras from my ford pass app.
If you build an XLT and a Lariat on Ford's website, and spec the Towing Technology package (included with the Lariat), and all other options stay the same, there is less than $3800 dollars difference between the XLT and Lariat price. I don't get why they are so close in price.
I agree, and it's not just their electric vehicles. In general Ford tends to have a LOT of overlap in price going from trim to trim. I understand there's gonna be some overlap(like highest spec XLT to lowest spec Lariat), but there's definitely way too much IMO.
Sandy Munro (he was in the brief scene with Laycee when they were at the Ford factory) has predicted that, aside from Tesla, only Ford will survive in the American-made electric truck market. He thinks Rivian will falter because of the combination of they are not pricing their very good electric truck high enough for profit sustainability and they are unable to do profitable mass production.
My big issue with the EV’s is battery life? And damage that could be done in the extreme cold that can come in winter or extreme heat. The cost to replace said battery.
Batteries are warrantied for at least 8 years 100k miles. Batteries are highly valuable even if there has been range loss due. All valuable minerals in a new pack remain in an old pack. Companies like Redwood Materials pay for those minerals. Additionally, new battery cost has dropped around 10% annually for a decade or more. A $40k battery in 2013 might cost 15k now. We are building a closed loop of domestic battery supply in the USA. Reducing our energy dependence on foreign supply could improve our national security and economic outlook greatly in the long run. Some project that by 2050 we will no longer require minerals from mines for automobiles because decommissioned batteries will contain everything required for new vehicles.
We are happy the messaging came through. We filmed this while en-route to/from exhibiting and speaking at the Fully Charged Show in San Diego. We were afraid we may have missed the mark because a great deal of our driving took place after dark and turned out not to be usable. It is wonderful to hear that the segment has been helpful and/or informative. The knee injury happened when a wild bike rider crashed into Miss GoElectric at 25mph on the bridge to Belle Isle (Detroit) for a group ride. We decided not to publish the footage, but she couldn't ride and had to wear the brace for several weeks. Here is the group ride segment: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7wwJRHXF6MU.html -Producer Tim
The F150 went from utility truck that could haul anything and drive all day at an affordable price to a rich person's truck that can go a few hundred miles.
There are many varieties of the F150. The EV is more reliable with a lower cost of operation. It is much quieter, more powerful, and has a higher towing capacity than the gas versions. That said, the EV isn't the right solution for everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim
True. Internal Combustion Engine trucks have a more dense and rapid refueling network at the moment. Long distance towing with this EV is doable, though less convenient than ICE for the time being.
You can achieve up to 170 kwh rate even though ford says max is 150. A lot of charging issues with electrify america. I'd love to see ford suppliers charginginfo such as the charging rate while charging.
@@MissGoElectric I only charge my lightning at home. Currently charging at 240 volt 30 mobile charger which has been more than fast enough for me. Like all lithium batteries fast charging, reduces battery life. When I receive my 80 amp charger, I may use it to charge faster. At 19 kwh seldom needing more than 20 kw after a trip into town. No long distance traveling for me.
In Yosemite National Park, I’ve seen Tesla Level II destination chargers replaced by Rivian Level II chargers with a big sign thanking Rivian for installing them. I find this to be extremely wrong, someone got paid off by Rivian. Those Tesla chargers were provided at no cost, I wonder what happened to those Tesla chargers? We can’t believe everything that we are told by Rivian. We need chargers where there were none before. It’s incredibly expensive to install DC fast chargers, but that’s what is needed. I’ve seen battery storage used to enable DC changing, but then there is a long waiting period between charges.
Battery enabled DC fast is usually a cache and is replenished by the grid or another source. Often that is done when output can exceed the grid connection. We've never experienced a wait or heard about battery banks depleting and charging being stopped. We don't know who was paying for the electricity when the Tesla stations were at Yosemite. This new arrangement certainly puts Rivian and/or drivers on the hook to pay for the power. We aren't defending it, but accountability and ongoing expenses are an invisible piece of the puzzle. We agree with you that new stations in new locations which serve a wide variety of drivers are what we need.
Idk still doing research on this electric business. Ben Hardy says they can't even get the Lightenings or Mach E's off the lot because nobody willing to buy them for marked up prices and low range.
When priced at MSRP, Ford sells these as fast as they can build them. The independent dealerships can charge whatever they want. Some dealerships set prices higher the market can bear. Ford's F150 and Mustang Mach E range are at the higher end of their respective competitors. New EV brands like Tesla, Rivian, and Lucid sell directly to consumers and offer consistent pricing nationally.
Polestar cuts franchise dealerships in on every sale in the US. They do not sell direct even if the customer experience might appear that way. We know because we helped Polestar launch the PS2 for most of 2019.
Most charging will happen overnight at the driver's home or business which is much less costly. Public DC Fast charging can be expensive and is not consistently priced. We have seen public charging costs as high as $1/kWh here in the Detroit Michigan area. That would cost a whopping $130+ to fully charge the F150 Lightning extended range battery. We'd expect a typical *full* charge at a DC fast station to be around $50 for this truck.
Sure they are great if you don't want to use it like a real truck. Don't tow with it if you want to go more than 90 miles. TFL pretty much exposed the weakness of the electric truck.
Jesus Christ they even on an EV just CANT get rid of the god forsaken whip antenna. People barely ever even use radio anymore, just make it an aerodynamic sharkfin style one already Ford, for Christ's sake!!! Also this truck should be 150kWh base and 200kWh for the long range version. Idk if the Lightning uses a heat pump, but it should definitely use one and I also am not sure if they use EV specific tires but it should be riding on those as well. Getting 70mpge is absolute shit when the Hummer EV can do up to 51mpge while also being literally worse than a rolling brick on tractor tires.
We specifically call out the fact that the F150 Lightning does *not use* a heat pump. Resistive heating is inefficient and we are now seeing owners complain about significant winter range trouble. That said, in warm and hot conditions the F150 was performing at or above the efficiency ratings stated on the monroney. Ford has another EV truck in development which is geared towards efficiency. The F150 is available now and they can surely make improvements over time to this platform.
Great review. But When did Volkswagen has their own charging network? It never does. And you know Electrify America was owned and started by Volkswagen right?
EA is VW's network. As you know, we have provided significant education on this matter. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rpFsgSNngo0.html
Do you know why you have to get the 20” wheels with the larger battery? Is it a bigger brake caliper? Or is it just Ford forcing crap on you in bundles?
Range is greatly affected by wheel size. 20" is optimally efficient for the F150 Lightning. Other choices reduce range, which is important to buyers who pay the premium for a larger battery. Ford recently dropped the price of the F150 by almost $10k for some trim levels. A reduction in the number of possible configurations is crucial to reducing retooling time which improves annual volume thereby achieving production scale and inching towards EV profitability. We produced a tour of the factory where these are built in case you'd like to learn more. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o5tqlXc2qdo.html Thanks for watching. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric so the 20” is more efficient than their 18” option? That doesn’t make much sense unless it is related to aero or if the 18s come with bigger tires which I don’t think they do
@carperdiem8754 Small diameter (but wide) truck wheels mean more heavy tire rubber. Rotational mass is affected negatively when deviating from the optimal size, materials ratio, and aerodynamics. There are a great many factors. It will be in a topic in our upcoming EV buying guide education series as well. Thanks for watching. -Producer Tim
It was fabulous in high heat. No sweat. In the cold, as we pointed out in the video, the heater will be effective but inefficient. We have driven just about every EV available in the USA and we have no concerns about the durability and reliability of the F150 Lightning.
That chart is really deceiving. Yes the Ford Lightning has a base price of $52K. But the max range is going to cost you a minimum (base price) of around $80K. You can't get the extended battery without $18K-$20K or extras. Extended range battery is unavailable without those extras.
