101 on Setting up External Midi devices to Reason. 

Glad it gave you some great ideas, that's what I hope people get out of my videos..

Glad it was clear and useful...

When you add midi ports etc Reason usually needs a restart, if you change mappings you can get away with reloading the surface controller.. but I'm glad you found this useful and you are up and running...

Glad you found it of help, there are plenty of advanced and beginners video's on my page and I'm happy to do requests...

Thank you very much.. :)

You are more than welcome, thank you for stopping by :)

Glad it was helpful..

believe it or not I use my on board interface realtek, the laptop it self has 3 shared input\outputs for audio, the USB cable was a cheap and cheerful one from Amazon www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004IJ5FEU Externally I have a line mixer Fostex 2016 about 30 years old, all my gear I brought new more or less at the end of the 80's

It should work with any midi device and you should be able to map to kong etc.

In my case with the cable I was using it was plug and play, with my audio devices (UR 2x2MkII) you just install the drivers for it, once they are installed the ports should present them selves to you. It really should be a case of just plug the USB cable in, if it's not working I would try the cable on another computer or if possible another midi interface (the MIDI to USB cable is classed as an interface here). I did not do any special configuration to my external gear apart from making sure the Korg was taking out on Midi channel 2.

Under Preferences \ Sync they are options to set this up. As for you 2nd question, this video should have covered that, I could have set my Korg up 8 times on 8 different channels and hence record all the channels from my Korg at the same time (my Korg can talk on 8 channels at once). Now I have been down the route you are on many many years ago, I ended up recording all my songs from my workstations into Reason (using multiple midi channels) and in the end I now don't use my gear any more, OK I still use my Korg but only as a keyboard controller, maybe once or twice a year I play the sounds from it but as a solo instrument not with Reason. VST's sound better than my old gear (Korg T1, Roland D-70 and I have a W-30 but that is so lo-fi LOL) . Using Reason to play midi and external gear to play it's own midi, you get into all kinds of sync and jitter issues, best to record into Reason and playback from there, you can use the EMI or External Midi Out Device (depending on what version of Reason you are on) to send out to external gear on different midi channels at the same time.

@@PoohBearsReasonChannel thanks for the informative reply, I have subscribed 😌 yes I thought this is what you did with the korg but was bit unsure, I’m brand new to old gear into my daw. All vintage gear I’ve ever owned has been used on its own, or recorded as audio. Yea I am heading down this route! I have such a soft spot for my sy99, and it is also unique with its rcm fm capabilities. Also a rest from always using so much software.. also I’m sure I will also learn a lot going down this route. I do agree tho software sounds great, is so user friendly and pretty much limitless these days.

@@KUPHSER Hi, regarding your 2nd question, did you manage to get this to work? I have an SY77 full of my songs recorded years ago. In the past I have tried to record each track from an SY77 song onto a separate Reason track, but ran into a dead end as I could not figure out how to record all 16 tracks at once. And it became very tedious trying to do it one track at a time! But on stumbling upon this video, I started to wonder again whether it would be possible after all, using the method shown here. Do you have anything to report on how you went trying to do this with your SY99? Thanks!

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Thank you, No the Kosh codec won't fix your issue, the hardware has to expose it self to the system first (i.e. drivers)

Just use the Midi Out Device (use to be called the EMI in older versions) it acts like an instrument so you put players on top of it or add all the notes you want into the Seq. To configure the Midi out Device select the hardware midi port and connect your OB6 to it and off you go.

Yep.. I have a few video's about it, this was one of my latest ones.. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JeOJf4SB7LY.html If you search Midi or VST3 on my Reason channel you should get a good hit.

How far did you get?

If your drum machine is sending on different midi channels then yes this will work but it also comes down to what you mean by individual tracks as usually Drum machines talk on one channel and use different notes for different sounds. Need a lot more information, what do you mean by the midi tracks don't work? Did you setup the surface controller? Are you using Windows or Mac? What old drum machine is it?

My drum machine is all Lynn 9000. It used to be my recording device. Obviously, I would program the drums and then it also had a sequencer side where I would use hardware since. Each hardware synth had its own midi channel and then with the keyboard I would program performances and when I would record, each midi channel had its own sound. Bass, piano, strings etc. So, can reason be my sound modules for each midi channel ?

Yes it can be your sound modules for each midi channel, Note: Even though I used 3 different devices the Korg in the video supports multi midi channels at the same time and I could (and have) sent all those channels to Reason and record them on different tracks at the same time, of course I could have done individual channels if I have wanted. There are some notes in the description of the video about setting things up on a Mac using the IAC. I don't know Mac's so I won't be a great help there, but once you have it talking to your Mac getting to work in Reason is the same as in the video. Using the EMI (pre Reason 11) or the Midi Out device you can talk to your external devices.

Thank you for letting me know, I have updated the link to his blog which in turn has up to date links to the codec files etc...

Where is it going wrong for you?

For some reason RU-vid has stopped notifying me of comments, arh, I think I may have seen you post up on one of the Reason groups on facebook. The MIDI Bank Select message is used for selecting specific banks of sounds/programs/presets in MIDI instruments that feature several sound banks. There is no specific panel control for MIDI Bank Select in the External MIDI Instrument device. However, you can use the regular MIDI Controller automation described below for inserting Bank Select automation points. MIDI Bank Select normally uses MIDI CC #0 and/or #32. Refer to the MIDI documentation of your specific instrument for details. Note that MIDI instruments that have several banks of sounds usually expect a Bank Select message to be immediately followed by a Program Change message in order to change the bank and program/preset. In these situations, sending only a Bank Select message - without a subsequent Program Change message - will not change anything. Note that Reason only sends out MIDI CC data when they actually change. This means that you might have to send a different “temporary” MIDI CC value just before you send the actual MIDI CC value. For example, if you want to resend the value “1” for MIDI CC#32, first send another value (e.g. “0” or “2”) and then send the value “1” immediately afterwards. You can do this by adding and/or moving automation points in the automation clip for MIDI CC#32 in the sequencer..

@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks matie. I've made a video reply, typing is so tiresome...

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Hi, There are a few stages to setting this up, getting the Codex files installed, which is a simple copy, no installer needed, So do you see under Preferences\Control Surface - Manufacturer "Other" Model "Generic Controller on Midi Channel X" etc.

FYI I do have a Facebook page which might be better to chat on.. facebook.com/Poohbears-Reason-Channel-343729232948815/

I don't know why but youtube has stopped notifying me of comments so I have only just seen this. What version of Reason are you running? You could send all your midi to Reason, then using the EMI in Reason send that out to Massive. This may help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5PPQupSMdqc.html

through the kontakt player bring massive into it in reason but you gotta create the vst path, i did this recently with help from reason family and it worked, I got abbey rd drums going in reason etc

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Did you setup the full 16 surface controllers in Reason? and point them to individually to separate devices in Reason?

@@PoohBearsReasonChannel I tried setting up LoopMidi with Channel 1, 2, and 10 (these are the three used by BSP) and when I click a pad on the BeatStep Pro, it shows that it's reading it from a given channel, but in Reason, it still just plays all of it. Another test I did was setup the BSP with Studio One and then slaved Reason with Rewire. I tested it with using Ch 1 and 10 for a Noise Engineering module & Kong (both in Reason), & the Mai Tai on Ch 2. This all worked, but it was difficult to save all of it & I'm still trying to figure out how the hell Studio One works as simple things you take for granted in Bitwig or Reason are confounding to find in Studio One. And not sure how to save my work. When I try to record, the BSP is activated to record as well & there's a lot of MIDI generated to the recording. It really needs to be recording just the audio I think as the MIDI is an absolute mess. The other problem I noticed is that I can't automate the Reason knobs through Rewire. Nothing happens when I try to assign it. I can assign an encoder/knob from BSP to the Mai Tai, but not to anything in Reason. It just doesn't work. I'll have to try messing with it again, but so far it's a mess. The only DAW that worked with all three sequencers for BSP without much fuss was Bitwig. Studio One took forever to get working & it's far from perfect. I'm really puzzled with Reason so far. It shouldn't be this hard to get it working.

@@shitmandood Have you tried setting it up using the Koshdukai Codec's ? that's my preferred method. If you use the Midi-OX method remember you have configure which midi channels you want only to talk the midi loopback ports, in your case you will need 3 loopback ports configured for each channel.

@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Blast! So here are the results: - I have the BSP setup for USB/MIDI. - The BSP uses Channels 1, 2, and 10 for its sequencers so I added the Koshdukai Codec's to Reason per your instructions. - Next, I choose to lock the Channel 1 codec to that device. Which means Control and Seq 1 should work from the BSP and not Seq 2 or the Drum Seq due to being on different channels. - Next, I record a beat on Seq 1 (Channel 1) and it plays. It seems to be working. - I then switch to Seq 2 (Channel 2), I click a pad & the sound registers on the device. So it seems to be ignoring the Codec. Do you think I'd have better luck if I went back to using the MIDI Input on the Audio Interface? I'm on the latest Reason 10.4. Although I don't think it worked any differently when I tried yesterday. Somehow Reason is smart enough to know that all three channels are coming from the BSP. On the upside, the transport is working, the encoders map to controls (I'm playing with these amazing Noise Engineering modules in Reason), & the sequencer records. Just can't seem to setup all three sequencers to control different instruments. I've got a Volca Drum I'm going to try to control with the BSP tomorrow & see if I can get the audio of it to record in while working on a sequencer in Reason, but of course I can't return to the drums once the other instrument is playing in Reason because Reason would pickup that channel & start playing the sequence on the drums. And I found another problem with Reason too! There's a feature called "Easy MIDI Inputs" under Control Surfaces that had the BSP listed there automatically. When I was slaving Reason to Studio One, Reason wouldn't open because it found the BSP MIDI was locked out. So I disabled the BSP in "Easy MIDI Inputs". When I later re-opened Reason as stand-alone, I found the BSP was deleted entirely from "Easy MIDI Inputs". I then tried the same with a LoopMIDI channel that it found. Just disabled it, closed/re-opened Reason, & found that the LoopMIDI entry was missing as well. I have no idea where it is & opened a ticket with Reason to find it. I could not get the BSP to work without it. However, I was able to use the Koshdukai Codec to get the BSP to work again at least, because it's finding those channels being used by the BSP. I don't know if the Easy MIDI Input may have helped with the codec or not. It's just weird that Reason can't distinguish the channels via these Codecs being setup. It seems it should work, but maybe it's because it's three channels from the same device & not a separate midi device entirely?

I will reply more bit rushed for time, however make sure there is nothing in the Easy MIDI inputs, when deselected and they have been assigned to a controller they should not appear..

I just set this up now in Reason 12 without any issues. I'm happy to work through it with you, I know that Reason 12 has moved the location of the Remotes but at the same time it does read from the old location and it could be it's working for me as I moved over my preference file from Reason 11 to 12 (as I have over 30 midi ports setup and I did not want to go through that lot again LOL)..

@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Hello again and thanks for your offer of help. I eventually worked it out! The folder names are now different in Reason 12. :-)

External hardware won't show however the midi ports should.

You should be able to get it to sync using the clocks under Edit\Preferences\Sync\ Midi Clock Sync, also what audio interface are you using to connect your external devices with Reason?

Hi, i am using a korg tactile keyboard controller,,,it has midi in and out.

and is that connecting directly via midi to audio interface or are using another method to connect it to your PC ?

I have a behringer audio interface connected to my pc,,but it doesnt have midi sockets,,so i use that and my korg both connected separately to my pc,, but my rocket synth is plugged in the midi in and out of my keyboard, thanks for your time...

Maybe you could do a video of your setup etc. as I don't want to assume how you have set things up.