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A fact that often gets forgotten is that simple 12 gauge 2 3/4" 1 1/4 ounce heavy field @ 1220 or 1330 FPS that patterns decently in your shotgun is adequate turkey medicine out to as far as your shotgun will hold a decent pattern. Grandpa used similar "duck" and "pheasant" loads out of fixed full choke guns to supply Thanksgiving dinner back in the olden days when things were olden. The sheer tonnage of game harvested with simple ammo is mind boggling but often overlooked when contemplating modern ammunition.

I prefer Longbeard XR shells. 1 reason, I get 10 shells vs 5 of the TSS/Heavi-shot type., at a much cheaper price. And I get a great pattern out of my choke tube out to 45 - 50 yds, which is the max distance I would take a shot anyway.

I had to pause when it got to the Winchester Supreme turkey loads because those shells were the best shells you could possibly get in the early 2010s for turkey hunting in California. The 2oz #5 loads were hard hitting, hard kicking and I never lost a bird to one. Due to the nontoxic ammo law in California, we can't use those shells or any other type of lead ammo for any hunting, but if it weren't for that, I'd still be using them today because they're that good of a load.

What about Winchester Longbeard? Replaced the Hevi’s and was cheaper and tighter.

Would like to hear your thoughts on what benefits come from running a 10 Guage. For turkey or just a video on the 10 Guage in general . Thank for the great content.

Ryan is such an amazing fountain of knowledge. I also look at requirement of the state For example, dove hunting using 12 ga, you need to limit the shotgun capacity to 3 shells total. So, on my smooth bore Mossberg 590A1 SPX (yes, it came with bayonet. And I have changed the butt stock to a magpul, just swanky comfort, I tell ya,) I have an 8 shell tube, if using the 2.75 inch. The bottom part of a regular plastic hanger is just long enough when cut off to drop in the ammo tube and then only two shells fit in. Plus one in the chamber for three total when dove hunting. Of course, you can carry more in your belt pouch or tactical hull carrier. For eastern spring turkey hunting, you do not have a shell limit. So, if I felt like it, I could have one in the chamber, 8 in the tube, and however many else around and about my person. Not having a choke, though, I may need to get close. My problem is that I do not have a place to pattern the shottie. The public ranges I can go to only allow slug. Which I can understand. You don't want pellets or bb's bouncing off of things and injuring people. That being said, so far, this shottie is on the mark at 20 yards at one local range I have been to. For some reason, I thought I had read that we had to use #4 shot but I cannot find it, now. So, that Winchester #5 with the gobbler on the box should be good. Same with dove.

One thing you forgot to mention on the original Hevi-Shot loads is that the shot was all different kinds of shapes and not round

I have killed a ton of turkeys with those Supremes that Winchester used to make. Then, the LBXR’s came along, and that made things better than I thought they could ever be. And then, TSS came along, and I have moved to a 20 gauge. But I still have a 12 and LBXR’s for the 12.

Gosh I love this podcast!

A 20minute 10 minute talk? Sign me up!

More turkey talk. I like it

Is. 3” load really that much better than a 2 3/4 load for #4 or #5 in a 12g?

I have a suggestion for a 10 min talk the 20 millimeter canyon round

Ryan please address this. Iv been reloading shot shells for 40 years. Mostly upland and trap skeet loads. I'm venturing into TSS loads. Please talk about buffer. Iv used it for large shot loads varmint. Is it necessary for #9 shot loads in tss . What is its purpose? Some recipes call for it some dont. Thanks Tom

Regular field loads or the 2 3/4" copper plated pheasant loads all you need to get a turkey be surprised some 2 3/4" loads pattern better than the 3 " turkey loads

Go cougs!

I hate the price of the latest and greatest turkey loads. But they are a wonder to behold. It seems that performance is a stair step directly proprtional to the money you throw at it.

Just got my grandpas shotgun Ithaca model 37 this year with a bunch of shells 12 Ga. 2 3/4 1oz slug now I know I use these for deer but I also want to start turkey hunting and using it for maybe ducks or pheasant which is all new to me. Do I have to switch the barrel to the other one he gave me when I buy different shells for turkeys or do I still use the original barrel whats the point in the the other barrel he gave me if not so then just wondering haven’t messed with it figured I’d ask here before taking in into a store or just calling and asking. Ps my grandma is coming down with dementia so it’s getting hard for him to remember! Will reply fast!

I tried couple different Winchester shots, they didn’t do good for my toy . I went to federal 3.5” #4 and I haven’t fired a follow up shot for a bout 10 seasons. Now I can’t find them on shelves which concerns me what to get when I run out of them

I’ve never gone after Turkey but I know where there are some locally. If I were to set up an 870 to do this, 28” barrel, full choke, and a red dot?

If you call the bird into 30 yards like your supposed to anything works

Here’s the problem with TSS: gobbler steps out at 15 yards or less. You spent $60 for a pattern that’s too tight and you missed because it’s too tight.

TSS way overrated & way to expensive I'll stick to Long Beard XR,just as dead,just way cheaper

how would you reload the last shell that is not crimped? is that even posible?

Smooth bored mossberg 500 home defense shotgun with single front sight

Someone please answer this for me, what would happen if you went turkey hunting with something like a 204 Ruger? Is there some reason you have to use a shotgun to hunt turkeys or would a small caliber high velocity round that doesn’t cause much tissue damage work just as well?

Turkey loads for your "Shawty"

Should look into slugs..... and all the different types.

Turkies must wear titanium armor, why not bust out the .50 BMG for these menaces

So I used #4 buck for Turkey, my dad drove up on a flock of Turkeys and I jumped out and empty my shotgun on the flock. 4 birds down ;)

Go cougs

I wouldn't do it but I'm pretty sure I could kill her turkey 70ish yards with a two and three quarter inch number 8 shot lead 12 gauge. I spent a lot of years shooting trap and sometimes the birds would get way out there and start falling before we'd even shoot them. Immediate engagement distance is typically 30 to 35 yards when you're on the 16 yard line, so letting it stretch out to 50 or 60 isn't abnormal

Here’s my take on it.. Why not buy a cheap side by side with double triggers with tight chokes & shoot both barrels at once.! You can then run more conventional cheaper loads like 30 gram no 5’s.? Yes it will kick like a bitch but if your not shooting many rounds then so what..

I killed one two years ago at 69 yards using Winchester long beard xr and it rolled him up like a booger.