11 things they don't tell you about rim brakes 

#7 should read .. "manufacturers are forcing rimbrakes out of the market to make the buying public pay double for diskbrakes" lol !!

I've put over 20,000km on my light alloy wheels and they are fine (easy another 10k but not sure about the hubs). Modern rim brake bikes have clearance for 28mm tyres generally, so for road riding in the dry, rim is better - lighter, quieter, cheaper, and far less fuss.

Rim brakes have stood the test of time. It is the new marketing that is pushing disc brake sales on road bikes that I personally don’t think is necessary.

Unless you are getting paid to ride in the rain and bomb descents on a regular basis, rim is more than enough. Disc is a solution-to a problem that doesn’t exist.

Rim is just a bigger disk. 😂😁

Provided you keep the braking surface clean, alloy rims will wear out at a glacial pace. And even when they do, they won’t take you to the poorhouse to replace.

Very funny, guys, most of the disadvantages here are valid for discs also..

I still prefer rim brake bike even in the rain 🙂

Rim brake for road racing Disc for mountain, gravel, cyclocross, commuter and winter bikes. Discs dentists and rims for serious riders.

Now do a video on 11 things they don’t tell you about disk brake! Air in the lines, squeaking, not opening all the way, bleeding lines, disk warping , heavier just to name a few. Disk brakes on a bike is not necessary it’s just the bike industry‘s way of making more money!

I run disc and rim. I got 30,000 miles on my last rim brake wheels.

I think it's all about the riders preference. Rim or disc, whichever works for the person at that given time. As for rim brakes, if it can win multiple grand tours since it's invention, then I think it's good enough for regular riding.

I tried both, and on road bikes, I prefer the rim brake + alloy rim combination all day. With alloy wheels and decent brake pads ( I'm on Swissstop BXP and 105 brakes ), the braking force is on par with most disc brakes in the dry. In the wet, the traction between the tyres and tarmac reduces, and I'd want my braking force to reduce accordingly. In the wet, if you are not careful, it is not difficult to lock the front wheels with disc brakes. Once you lock that wheel, it doesn't matter how good your brakes are anymore. 10000km, and still on my original alloy wheelset.

Looks like your sponsors pulled your ears because of the other video 😂😂😂😂😂

I don't get the idea of the video. Half of what you said is wrong, like brake pads. They are super cheap, while disk brakes ones are expensive + the disk itself which gets bent and damage quite often PS: new wheels come with disk only because they are more expensive and money is the ultimate goal for them, facts

Discs are NOISY. You have to clean discs regularly, I would rather ride all day vs. cleaning these finger cutters! I end up returning to rim brakes. The end.

Riding a disc bike for about a year and considering selling it and get back on an 2016/2017 Trek Emonda rim version. The braking performance and especially feedback with rim brakes is a hundred times better than that of a disc one. With my old rim brake bike I went down hills with 80+km/h and was totally confident. Now I'm going a lousy 40km/h and I have no confidence at all.

I own a 1993 Giant Attraction taken decent care of it for over 28 years. Rim breaks heavy as hell steel bike that still stops real well. Regular cleaning and replacement of the pads.

1. cheap rim brake bike on alloy rims can be lighter than 10k$ superbike :)

Funny you asked Shimano for brake surface life. I always thought Shimano destroyed the most wheel with its hard like hell brake pads.

Kool Stop Salmon pads spotted there at the beginning. I like them so much better over the almost plastic feel of the Shimano pads.

I live in the countryside, I might go 100km without touching the brakes. I will at some point upgrade to discs to have better selection of wheels but I'm in no hurry.

Don't care! Rim brake forever!!!!

RIM FOR ROAD AND DISC FOR DIRT

now i want to know what they don't tell you about disc brakes

Long live rim brakes!

The actual video title should be: We only looked at the disadvantages of rim brakes.

Being one of the older riders, I have experience of single pivot rim brakes, on both steel and aluminium rims. Moving to dual pivot rim brakes later was a huge step forward. V-brakes took it even further. But disc brakes, above all Hydro or hybrid discs, just take it forward again. And I don't get all the concern about maintenance...how often do you change out a whole system? As for squealing...pfft, rim brakes do that. The focus on rim wear is nonsense, though. Far more important is wet weather performance.

On my old 90s Peugeot I'm using Campag Potenza rim brakes and believe it or not - I can cram 30mm wide Schwalbe One tires AND 35mm wide SKS mudguards in there. And it works. It's a tight fit up front. In the back not so much. Apart from super muddy conditions, there's no rubbing. And in 20 years of riding, I have yet to wear out a single rim with rim brakes. If you look after and clean your pads and if you're not using the hardest compound, there's really no need to be super worried about rim wear.

Rim brakes definitely work fine in the rain.. seems like you’ve never actually ridden rim brakes before. Smh.

They also don't tell you most pros would go to rim brakes in a heartbeat its the sponsors stop that just ask Froome !

if youre a light weight rider riding on flat roads, then carbon wheel rim brakes is fine

Watching this after stage 16 of Giro, had to put it on mute after hearing Hugh Carthy descending like a scared giraffe on Kilimanjaro. Disc brakes squealing so loud you could hear them through the moto camera behind him. You could see him wishing he had rim brakes just for the peace and quiet in such serene landscapes.

Got disc for my long rides and off roads. Got rim brakes for daily commute, rain or shine, climb and decent.

my carbon rim brakes work too good in wet conditions u just need the right brake pads. want to slow down faster? pull harder

The one time I decided to ride on a damp morning after a rainstorm, I was hit with another heavy shower! But, my rim brake bike took it all with aplomb, so I’m convinced that rim brakes still work in the wet, just not as well as discs. Rim brakes all the way, especially because I am not paying more money for an already expensive category of bikes just to get disc brakes

Great info!

Ride mid-tier aluminum wheels, high-quality brake pads, and the best tires you can afford in the widest version you can fit, unless that's wider than 28mm. Clean the rims (off the bike so you can get to the brake pads) every 200 miles or so (more often if you ride in wet or very dusty conditions) with very fine steel wool then wipe them down with a liberal dose of isopropyl alcohol on a fresh microfiber cloth. Face the pads lightly with 400-ish grit sand paper then clean them with the alcohol and an old toothbrush. Your wheels will suffer negligible braking-surface wear over time, your braking power will be impressive, and you'll pocket enough cash (over carbon wheels and disc brakes) to buy lots of coffee and pastries. Or you can skip the pastries (Who in his or her right mind would skip the coffee?), and by the time you do suffer enough braking-surface wear to warrant a new set of mid-tier aluminum wheels, you'll have banked enough to buy them. Best of all, unless you're being paid to ride fast, you'll suffer insignificant performance loss compared to the more fashionable options.

Many years ago Mavic produced Open Pro ceramic rims, the best rims I ever had. Nowadays it seems like it’s only DT Swiss who make ceramic coated rim wheels for rim brakes but unfortunately DT Swiss don’t sell only the ceramic rim so when it’s warned out it can’t be replaced. Any other brand who have coated rim brake surface on the rims ?

Love disc brakes on my CX bike, give us rim for the road please! Enough is enough!

I prefer rim brakes the power is more than enough and they feel better than discs and you can get 4 genuine Shimano pads for £8 on the internet cheap as chips takes like 2 minutes to pop them in.

Disc just adds weight unless you fork over the money for a super expensive frame designed to be lighter with disc brakes. I got my Canyon CF SL 8 for under $3k and it weighs just over 7 kg plus has aero carbon handlebars, carbon seatpost, and decent alloy wheelset with dt swiss.

Everything you’ve said is true but unless you’re riding a lot in the rain or on mountainous terrain then rim brakes are fine. GCN did a stopping distance test recently and the difference at 40kph to zero was only an bike length in the dry with carbon rims. 2 lengths in the wet. I use aluminium rims and rarely ride in the wet. I don’t need the complexity or expense of disc brakes and I’ve never had to replace a wheel for brake wear. Unfortunately there are very few new bike options available with rim brakes but I’m going to be fine for a few years yet.

My rim brakes work fine and are plenty powerful (ie. can lock wheels if I brake hard), a lot of marketing bushtit abounds to part rich consumers from their cash.

I think the biggest one for me is No8; I've got a Domane with direct mount rim brakes, and 32mm tyres just about fit; anything more - no chance. If you want wider tyres and rim brakes, you'll need either canti/v-brakes, and how many of them are now made, apart from specialist frame builders?

Someone mentioned the Aribrakes can lock your wheels even faster than hydraulic brakes, waiting for that to happen before upgrading.

More disc brake marketing BS… as someone that rides both and own a bike shop - rim brake is my choice.

The cheap TEKTRO hydraulic disc brakes on my Giant Escape RX amazes me all the time. Specially after changing to "Red Pads" and changing my tires to Continental Ultra Sport III. Before those changes the modulation wasn't that good. Now it is predictable even on wet.

yeah alloy or carbon rims will wear eventually, but here is the thing most rider"s own more than one set of wheels. and will swap them out frequently,

I was in the rim brakes camp until I switched to disc brakes. Ngl, I wish I switched sooner.

I have a CAAD 8 since 2013 with rim brakes. I've had to change my rims twice. 1 spokes kept busting. 2 got hit by a car. Other than that my rims are just fine.

Super easy to maintain and better performance, I don't agree with this. Rim brakes last longer and they're super cheap.

02:09 "steel used to be common" It was, and it was horrific. In the wet...🤕

Concerning the durabiility issue, isnt most of the high end gear essentially race day tech. Long term durability isnt the focus as it just has to make it through a race with the idea that the bike will be overhauled afterwards.

Wearing out your rims was literally the first thing "they" told me

rim brakes are great love them

disc rotors and pads are cheap?? and rim brake pads expensive? are you effing kidding me?? LoLoLoL

this is pure propaganda who payed for this video, the uci?

Funny Ollie Gray said how resilient carbon brake tracks are. Hunt told me my rims were goosed after under 2000 miles and offered no solution.

i add oils and wax to my carbon brake track to reduce friction, so they dont bite so much.

How long have rim brakes been around????? LOL

The pads are sacrificial. Get a grip.

l prefer RIM BRAKES on my road bikes and DISC BRAKES on my MTB s . ALLOY WHEELS WITH RIM BRAKES works fine for me for decades and l can fix adjust repair replace all of it myself !! l m a mechanic and have no wish to set up hydro brakes on a bicycle whatsoever !! My MTB s are mechanical too for now :) JUST REMEMBER ALL RACE ROAD BIKES ARE LIGHTER WITH RIM BRAKES !!

Which Brakes?

most of the time ppl break is not needed. all of my rims fail before the track wears out. i'v been on the same set of pads for 5 years and the rims have long since failed.

i have a 26x13/8 roadster and the wheels are stainless steel rims, the gearhub is marked 1947, so i guess thats how old the rims are! guess what? theyre as good as the day they were made!

Any data to share?

I've never worn out a rim. The only time I ride in the rain is in a race. Disc brakes are great for racing in the rain. I raced from 1985 to 2017. That last year, I only had one rainy race, where a few riders had disc brakes. I got gapped in every turn of the criterium. The three top riders with disc brakes finally got away from me, because of my rim brakes. When everyone had rim brakes, there was no advantage. Disc brakes might be necessary in the UK, since it rains 200 days a year, but I get it three or four days a month.

I have both and there’s no doubt discs are better, especially on my winter bike in the wet. On my dry weather bike (yes we all have them) rim brakes are fine. We are fortunate that equipment now is better than it’s ever been, It’s called progress but if you listened to most of the old school we’d all still be riding cane rims and twin sprockets.

Are you being paid to push disc brakes? A lot of what you are saying is pretty biased.

What are rotors made from? Tells you something.

I used to have steel rims a LONG time age. You could buy brake blocks that would improve the braking by having a piece of leather on the block. It was OK until a piece of leather came away from the block. My alloy rims have lasted over 20 years. They have for 3 reasons. 1) They have a ceramic coating on the braking track. 2) They have over time been stored in the loft as they are practically deadly in the wet. There is not coefficient of drag when they first get wet. Then when the brake block can connect with the rim. It's maximum uncontrolled braking as the rear is locked and 100% of the braking is done using the front wheel.3) I will never use those deadly rims when it's wet. Until I can get a disc road bike I will be having a set of wheels rebuilt with 100% alloy rims.

Nuts and bolts for front suspension

hmm i never noticed inconsistent breaking

Rimbrake tech is stalling BS...rim braketech reached its goal long ago😂

In over 30 years of racing / riding I've never heard of anyone wearing down their rim brake wheels to the point that they needed to be replaced . Not one. People ride Eroica on 40+ year old rim wheels with no complaints. How is this even a "thing" that should be mentioned?

This is most awful review this page ever put out. Sold out to marketing is the sake of profit. What a nonsense about rim being expensive ?!? How about disc being expansive and needs to be adjusted all the time ? Costs 100$ at the bike shop. Right brake pads ? Like one for alu another for carbon ? So many choices I'm stunned. And what you don't need to look out after disc brakes ??!?!? Rim tech is stalling or getting stalled by channels like this ???

The disc brake is pretty much safer Last time i otb because my rim brake in the front instantly brake even tho i am not braking

Rim brakes are easy for DIY

My Enve 4.5 have 20K miles and the brake track is in perfect condition. Also Enve textured track brakes harder than any alu wheel.

Discs are a gimmick. Rube Goldburg Machines.

Carbon wheels are unsafe.

At least 10 out of 11 of these things also apply to disc brakes, with the added disadvantage that you cannot solve it yourself and need to go to a mechanic.

Unsubbed 😂 rim brake for the win

Where is durianrider!

Like holy crap….. rim brakes have been used in grand tours longer than disc brakes without issue. This is a clear example of “sell out” come guys spend 3x more on a heavy bike that “remember weight was last decade”

Underlying message: Disk brakes are better because if you're still riding rim brakes you aren't buying an overpriced disk brake bike from one of makers that help "influencers" make money. In the wet, a rider, especially a non-pro, has to ride differently: look further down the road, control speed, brake sooner, etc. In the wet, an overconfident disc brake rider will easily have way more ability to stop the wheel rotating than he or she has grip on the road. Locking up a wheel is way worse than a small loss of braking power. The supposed "demand" for disk brakes isn't natural demand; it is _induced_ demand. The world tour teams are all riding disk brakes (as well as motorized shifting, through-axles, integrated cockpits, wider tires, hidden cabling, etc.) because they're being ordered to do so by their bike suppliers. Non-pros see all this "tech," UCI says it has to made available to them, and they lap it up. The claim that disk brake bikes and frames grossly outsell rim brake bikes and frames is true, but not because of high demand; rather, it's because of low supply.

When a new disc in the uk is not much difference in price than a carbon rim brake rim from china ill continue to rebuild my wheels. Disc brakes are for mountain bikes

Ridden rim brakes with aluminum wheels over 40 years without wearing out any rim routinely over 5000 miles per year. Undoubatably a quality disc brake bike will stop faster particularly when wet. However how many hundreds of thousands of miles have been ridden in grand tours with rim vs disc brakes. Proving that with the best riders in the world under the most challenging conditions, rim brakes are safe. Look at the recent Tour of the Basque Country. Several of the world’s top riders crashed with serious injuries using disc brakes. I contend, they crashed BECAUSE of disc brakes. Riders now approach curves faster expecting their disc brakes to save them. However, this requires more rapid handling under dangerous conditions placing increased stress on the weakest link, tire adhesion. Maneuvering downhill curves with rim brakes required setting up for corners sooner yielding a longer period to adapt to the road. Diving into fast downhills elbow to elbow is now increasingly risky.More will crash and be injured suckered into overcooking corners depending on late braking with disc brakes to save them. Mercyx, Hinnault, Indurain all won 5 TDF with rim brakes. Do disc brakes make today’s riders safer, or less safe?

Haha this video.

Why do you wanna put your self at higher risk riding in the rain lol

not brake pad its called "brake shoe" for rimbrake brake pads are for discbrake

Coster brakes all the way.

Jeeze how much did you earn for the disc commercial? BS, most of this.

Disc brakes for road is a psyop

A bicycle is simplicity itself.... Modern road bikes not so much...... The rim brake is simple, safe and cheap..... The fear mongering over warn rims is pathetic. How many millions of miles have rim brake rims travelled from China to south America and no real issues. Just bad simple maintenance practices

They are crap in the wet. End of.

Push the disc brakes way don't you! You are part of the problem with pushing the costs up of bikes and parts.

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