I'm slowing going through your whole series. Out of all the channels, I appreciate your (both of you) approach to everything. I've been bit by the sailing bug and now I'm hooked. I started sailing recreationally at a local harbor renting Rhodes 19's for a couple hours at a time. Now I'm on the lookout for my first buy. I met someone just yesterday to see his Cal 20 and he immediately invited me out to sail. I love the community and familiarity of other sailors.
I'm amazed at the number of ignorant armchair opinions here. Prout began building cats in the very early 60's, and stayed with the same design philosophies to the end. These cats are not fast; 10 knot cruising is NOT a reasonable expectation. Getting where you want to go IS. Tough, and manageable in weather bad enough to scare crews on boats twice as long and four times the displacement, more Prouts have circumnavigated than any other. There isn't a blue water destination that hasn't seen a thirty-something proud in the last fifty years. They are the most significant chapter in multihull sailing. These solid fiberglass vessels were over built simply because we didn't know back then how tough they would be. I saw a Prout 50 plow into a concrete bulkhead at a knot or two, and the damage was limited to the concrete, and a bit of paint on one bow. Prout had a good reason for moving the mast aft; it reduced the size of the mainsail, making it easier to manage, and provided for a larger genoa that benefited from not hanging behind a big draggy mast with lots of paraphernalia attached. That single two-speed winch is an adequate solution, but I would look into mounting a smaller winch on the bulkhead under the mast for halyards and reefing. You can't beat the Yanmar 3G30 for reliable power and economy. They can look pretty salty on the outside and run like a sweet little sewing machine on the outside. They are a no-brainer if they need an overhaul. Just do it. My guess is that this cat is well priced at under $50K. Being a Button Freak, I would accept any excuse to update the electronics. First item would be a Standard Horizon Matrix AIS/GPS (GX2200) radio, Then a Simrad Radar and Multi Function Display. That would make my day. I am an elderly Blue Water Cruiser and past owner of five large cats, the last was a Chris White Atlantic 42.
Sandy Daugherty Great rundown on this Prout and the Atlantic 42 is a beauty. I have always wondered if Prouts with their small main and mast so far aft can sail and tack on main alone. Do you know about that?
There's your boat. Perfect for the three of you. One thing I have to say, you show boats that people are trying to sell. Sometimes you have a tendency to say an engine needs replacing or rebuilding just because it has some rust on it or just doesn't look that nice. When it comes to engines, in absolutely no way does the exterior looks of engine reflect the condition. Before you even give an opinion of the engine, you should be ready to tell your viewers the hours on the engine. I've been a mechanic for 35 years. I've seen diesel engines that looked completely wasted start up and run for over 200,000 miles or thousands of hours. That engine could very likely outlive the boat. Diesel engine last far longer than gas engine. Even longer on sail boats. Other than that, nice viewing and nice boat.
Perhaps it should be described as neglected, interested people need to have a serious look at this engine before buying the boat its not been cared for which may mean low hours but less attention and regular maintenance.
@@brianlockyer4389 Yes anything other than suggesting the engine might need replacing because of rust. I would suggest the seller rust protect the engine before showing it. Service records are a must before suggesting anything.
That's value for money It would make a comfortable bahama and Carib cruiser. Solid fiberglass hull construction built with British almost 100% waterproof BS1088 marine plywood joinery. Reliable performance , not set the world on fire but it's called cruising for a reason. Thanks for showing us these boats that our out there! For the people who want galley up........get your wallets out and spend really money , for $50k with some cosmetic work you have a very cheap way to get a lot of room on the water , the one thing not obvious is the single engine I think ( unless it’s hydraulic drive to 2 props) better for island that tight marina usage. Cheers Warren
Yep, a bit dingy. Think for a few decades they were trying to re-create the interior of a sailing schooner. Seen a few old boats painted a light colour inside which is nice and looks bigger too.
Lovely Prout with a Solid Shout too sun bath, in . Well structured, cat with great provenance and performance.Go for it don't delay .but buy an electronic device too see how thick THE hull, is AND check for Dampness or delaminaceion..!!
For the price and what you get...That isn't bad at all....I don't think it will depreciate that much more...so even if you paid $40 to $42,000...You will not be losing money....It would be worth investing money into it....For the money....it would give a person a lot of freedom and a platform to a bigger and better boat....PS You two are appreciated....Thanks!
Step one...dry dock and a full survey! If the hull is sound, rigging is good, mechanical is working or repairable, this boat is a gem. Cleaning, Gelcoat repair, Bright Work, New Lines, Service all moving parts and the engine, $10K Maximum. If I had the money, I would fly down and buy it, on condition of a survey results being favorable of course.
I would move salon foward up to the windows and why the half wall by oven would like autopilot contrl by window also. Just seems lot of wasted space. If money problem could live with it just fine. I suspect engine rebuild rigging and sails are needed. When you want to say go to south pacific.
That seems like a damn good deal. It is so well equipped with water maker and heater. I don't normally like a down galley but ironically on a smaller cat like this, you weren't in such a deep hole and isolated from the main cabin. Really nice icebox too. The little tech room in rear sponson is awesome and could be very versatile with a drop down bunk added and maybe even some simple enclosures around water maker equipment (fully removable for maintenance, obviously). You could literally have 3 sleeping quarters on a 33 ft. boat and still keep the ability to store or use for tech. The only thing that scares me is the rigging which might make me offer slightly less for a contingency for replacement before any serious cruise. Thanks for reviewing!
hello, with synthetic rigging you may get away from spending a fortune on the rigging upgrade. I agree that the setup is quite nice. Only thing I noticed is that the helm area seems quite small.
@@tiborkiss9186 I was actually figuring dyneema. I agree the helm is a little small but it isn't bad considering it is only 33 ft. So that is all you get without compromising the saloon and berths.
I started watching because the DIY Boat And Other DIY Projects I enjoyed the Energy of you Both and continued watching right through to this Video am Sad at the direction this Channel has appeared to have taken with walking through other peoples boats instead of working on Freebie ???? I have a Custom 32 footer that I've been Refitting myself as well, I do wish you both well and Hope that happiness and health with wealth follow you wherever You both Go. I have Subbed but not sure Ill hang around if Looking at other peoples boats is what this has Become and Stays. Sorry If I have unintentionally Offended this was not my intention Good luck In your refit and with Freebie.
@@Clickumentary yes. For 50k a 2person comfortable cat is a steal. That engine is a Yanmar so repairs should be minimal for a rebuild. The corrosion may be salt or old battery. Wouldnt know until you got stuck in her. Could do all the repairs, brightwork, and engine work for cheaper possibly. But if you are gonna be stuck on the hard for a few months why not upgrade and make her as pretty as possible.
@@SkeezixIL that is neither safe nor sufficient. With propane heavier than air, venting needs to be from the bottom and open to the outside. Also needs a dedicated locker, not one shared with a compressor which is nearly certainly not ignition protected.
Sailing Lady Africa is similar - maybe a bit bigger and they upgraded to twin inboard engines (though they are running under the aft cabins (IIRC) - after about 2 years of work. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KvU2LLUaEqU.html
It is a fairly well equipped small catamaran. It is in relatively good condition; in any case, it seems cared for and usable. There would be work on it and development needed, but there is imagination in it. The realistic price is $ 33,000- $ 34,000.
I had a Prout Snowgoose 37, which was the next boat up from the Quest. Really good, safe, and fast cruiser. We used to sail it at an average speed of 10 knots. Very good in heravy seas, unlike modern cats, it has narrow hulls, which are better for performance and stability, but not so good for accomodation. Great boat, I would have another in a heartbeat.
How do you achieve 10 knots ON AVERAGE in a boat that has a theoretical hull speed of only ~7.8 knots and a hull shape that looks like 100% displacement-type only, i.e. almost no planing capability at all? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to discredit the Snowgoose 37, there is a lot to like about them (except for maybe regarding bridgedeck clearance / slamming and I'm not so sure about capsize-safety with low-weight narrow-beam cats - that's two aspects I'd NOT like in heavy seas), I think it's quite exciting if the 10 knots are actually true, but are you sure about that, I mean even ON AVERAGE? What was the top speed? I'm also curious how many knots it did under engine power (in calm water and zero wind conditions) relative to the engine's kW output at full throttle. Do you have these numbers? This would be very interesting in order to get an idea of the hull efficiency, because judging efficiency based on wind has too many factors (speed, gusts, direction, sail-plan, sails condition...). On another note: although I like slender hulls a lot for performance, why do you think that they increase stability? The narrower they are (including the canoe stern), the less reserve buoyancy they can offer when they plunge down a wave, therefore I'd assume that especially longitudinal stability (pitch) is lower.
Both of you are exposed to enough pretty but pricey boats, and have enough experience to know the value of systems needed for offshore cruising! This has the makings for a dream boat but both of you have to realize that it will take some effort, and you'll probably pass other prettier boats. So how much space will the 3 of you need, that's the task....before paying for a thorough survey.
May simply be avoiding sea sickness, they seem to like sitting in a car more than on boats which, I assume may further delay gaining much sailing knowledge.
This looks like a Prout Quest 33. This is the same model as we circumnavigated from '92 to '96. It needs lots of cosmetic work, but it is a solid, safe, good boat. It is well outfitted, but also well used. Ours was build in 1986 and when we circumnavigated this was before multihulls were popular - we were considered pretty crazy by some. However, these are nothing like the modern cats and are heavily built, under canvassed and sail more like a monohull (5 knot passages when laden down) than today's boats. This may be okay, considering you are coming from a monohull in the first place. Certainly a good candidate for electric as they are lighter and can go faster, although there is limited space for batteries. Happy to discuss pros/cons further.
probably the only post out of #277 with actual real world experience, do these actually slam as much as everyone on here says they do? I can’t imagine on a downwind tropical circumnavigation that these boats would slam as much as everyone claims.
I'm not a boat expert, but i think the price is on the high side . I think it could be a really good boat , fixed up , and if the survey came back good with no major structure issues. Just my opinion. Good vid
Have a look at the boat I have, a Gemini 105M or the 105MC. They are 34' with the same basic layout but having seen this I would say they feel a bit roomier. The forward berth on the 105 is definitely a queen.
Late reply, BUT the Gemini cat is horrible in rougher seas, even 2 foot waves and swells they pound and propose like mad!, I know, my friend has 1, and I would never again go out in that boat unless the seas were flat calm
I watched several of your boat reviews and have to tell you that its is not helpful at all when everything is awesome,great etc. The mast is broken at the base,you did not mention it with one word. I really don't expect you to put up all the negative sides,but for people who are really interested in a boat it would be veeery helpful to point out the pros AND cons realistically,what makes sailing easy/hard,what makes living on the boat nice/difficult,etcetc. It actually takes more effort and research from your side also,but I think you will learn also a lot on the way. To make a video of 15mins only to comment how cool everything is doesnt help a lot also for the person who wants to sell it. Pointing out why a dark hull is a problem or if a hatch can be put up easy would be a great comment for example. Obviously its an old boat,and there are many things not so great,and the reason why the owner likes to sell it . Just my opinion
You should take this boat and convert the electric engine of Freebie into it!! It has more than enough space for you and even little children. The saloon is big and If you do the cosmetics, it feels more open. I mean, If you wait for your big "forever boat" or even build ist yourself, you are fourty and your children are too old for a world cruise. Waiting for a forever boat means, waiting forever and never start your circumnavigation...
this is the same boat. Looks much bigger refitted, doesn't it? But you don't have that much work as this boat is in much better condition. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g4dGeX4VtnE.html
The design of this catamaran is focused on cramming as much living space as possible in a tiny frame but that solid front bridgedeck is a deal-breaker for me, especially on a short catamaran like that. The slamming and cost to speed will be terrible.
C_R_O_M__________ you nailed it! Awesome little floater but that bridge kills it!...believe it’s one of the primary reasons ours is sitting 5000 feet down of the north coast of Haiti...slamming into the weather all the way from Florida thru the Bahamas to the Turks.
C_R_O_M__________ C_R_O_M__________ ??? Not affected?...very affected...we slammed all the time. It vibrated through the hull so bad it felt like an earthquake. Agree someone was looking over us we cause I assure you...my wife 5 year old daughter and I should not be alive...spent hours getting bashed against the hull in the middle of the night. Saw the last of the hull go under as I climbed the 40 foot rope ladder up to the deck of the cargo ship at 4:30 in the morning. coastguardnews.com/coast-guard-delivers-victims-of-sunken-vessel-to-puerto-rico/2018/06/02/
Sailing Lady Africa has a "smallish" cat - it looks like it originally had a single inboard engine. Ricky (captain) got a deal and was able to install two aft, inboard engines (one in each hull) - which is great for redundancy - I think they are fairly compact too ... they just started sailing (from the vlog timeline). 5:41
Always enjoy your videos. To me it's like buying a lottery ticket which allows you to dream of things that will not happen. And then reality sets in: I'm 78 years old and have a wife that doesn't want to move further from shore than you can throw a rock at. Just at well, it was fun to pretend.
offer 28k and grab this one! The Prout will take you anywhere and you wont spend a fortune on it and will get to where you want to go! Just add a second dometic and your equipment room is great! Repower with electric and some tesla batteries and you're all set!
@@jedi201 ohhhkaayyy fered they are soooo completely different I don't know what made me think they look so fucking similar that it was worth letting someone on here that might buy it to go have a look at something that is so different they might get some idea of what they would be facing. Stop being a pedantic prick.
I have two and half years to go. There are really ready to go monos for the price. You watch bums on a boat? Well my channel would be bum on a boat. Lol
Sorry guys but opinion basing judgments about a boat by an armature that hasn't sailed much is not reliable and not serious. Judging a motor by appearance and not by the way it runs is really amateur and premature.
I've been following your videos and enjoying them , I would like look at some hurricane damaged catarmarans, but I don't know how tho go about finding these damaged boats, do you know any places that these boat are or stored so I could go and look at them. I guess I must be asking the wrong questions or to the wrong people because no one has answered me. With all the hurricanes that hit the gulf this season there must be some insurance company or salvage companies around that have boats. If you could would you please give me a place to start.. I sure would appreaciate.. I hope to talk to you at the Maimi boat show and a big thank you if you could give me any information on finding a boat..
This is how dreamers get into financial messes. Lots of assumptions going on here. A complete Yanmar rebuild generally costs about 65% of the cost of a new engine. This boat has been terribly neglected and the mechanical and electrical systems are nightmares. Worth $25,000 at the absolute tops assuming sails, rigging, and engine are serviceable.
@@hing-sanghum5236 Of course it is true. I am not a troll. I am in the boat business and know the market for smaller cats very well. In the current environment the owner will be very smart to take any offer over 20,000.
I have a Proud Quest 31, I improved in the last 6 months, if is someone interested in this design is a ready to sail catamaran, for a realistic offer I will sell it ( I look to buy a much bigger catamaran in future, this I want to sell it, till then I am really happy to keep it, till I will find a person interested in this layout, the sailing catamaran can be seen on my RU-vid channel)
Lady Africa is a Dean Oceanliner, they are very similar to the Prouts of the day. More so the Elite and the Escale. The Quest 33 CS was just an extended Quest 31. The Event 34 is nicer. Best sailing performance of all is the 35 and 37. The 35 is a very different boat though. Maybe I'll do a walkthrough on mine at some point this year.
Probably, The bridge deck (hull) even has a vee shape to it which won't help with slap, but will keep it from acting like a brake in waves. Every design has its compromises.
@@joeblow1942 You are right. lol. I was trying to be kind. The accepted formula is if wave height exceeds twice the vertical bridge deck clearance you are going to pound. It can be made worse if there is excessive weight in the forward half of the boat like anchors and chain. Of course, the more weight aboard, the lower the vertical clearance. As originally designed, built, and equipped, she probably started pounding in 3 foot seas.
@@joeblow1942 lol. I attended a seminar on catamaran design several years ago at IBEX. I still have a few notes: 1. Vertical bridge clearance should be minimum of 5.6% of LOA. 2. Vertical clearance x 2 = height of waves at which slamming starts
It sure is a nice boat, nice layout and all. Electrics don't look to good. Someone who nails a cable to the wall is not to be trusted ;-) If you would consider a boat like this and in this state, the best deals are not listed. Just go to a marina in the Netherlands in the summer. Look in the winter parking place for the boats that are out of the water for a couple of years. Find the owner and have a talk to see what is possible. Don't make a silly offer. That will be refused for sure. Talk about you plans with passion. chances are you have a few great conversations, and an almost free boat ;-)
Hey guys. Just saying hello. Funny how RU-vid is showing us all these sailing videos of small Cats now that we own a small Catamaran. Annette loving calls "our kitten". We dont know your story yet. Just enjoying the walk through on this Cat.
These old British cats are like submarines inside. Generally a very spartan finish and poorly ventilated. They are not good in the tropics unless they have been modified.
If people keep paying high prices for boats in this condition, it will push up the prices of other boat sellers pushing their poor condition junk too. 30k perhaps, too many people watching You Tube wanting the 'buy a cheap boat and be free to travel the world' fairy dream... and too many people trying to cash in on the dreams of people...
Proust are great cats, we see lots of them come through our little harbour here in Alderney. The firm has great history in family boat making from canoes to the Olympics, sailboatdata.com/builder/prout-sons. I've dreamed of a Prout Snowgoose 37, though perhaps a dated looking design they hold their value very well this side of the atlantic as they are know for their reliability and handling. Also many of these Have a converting saloon area to make a giant berth.
This guy is not a yacht broker but he very well could be working for one. I left you tube for over 6 months while travelling. I return and he's right there still preaching the same words.
Wow, air conditioner in the propane locker and a non marine propane water heater, that is a recipe for disaster! Those choices would make me second guess any maintenance done on that boat. Seems very overpriced to me given the work needed on it. In good shape they don't go for much more. Seems to me to be a mid to upper $20,000 boat at most.
hmmm interesting... the layout is more akin to a monohull, than your newer high dollar cat. but it's probably going to sail like a cat... interesting. modern cats are like condo's on water, real bad ass buttttttt you're going to pay for that kind of luxury... this is a good trade off..... and put some money into it and wa la....
I love the price, I'm okay with a small boat but I want a catamaran because there cooler then mono hulls in my opinion, think 2 people could fit in there comfortably with room for others to join sometimes? Also I'm literally a kid so I know nothing about catamarans or sailboat in general but would this be freshwater one or saltwater
Prouts were one of the 1st proper production cruising catamarans. Just about all Prout Quest 33s were sailed around the globe. They were also designed for going through locks, hence a little narrow, but could fit in a small keeler berth in any marina. Designed and built in UK, Prouts suit colder countries very well, hence cosy feel inside. Its has lots of other benefits over modern French cats. If you want to bigger a Prout Escale 39 will take you anywhere and no need to upgrade in the future.
Me like millions of others watch youtube on roku, there is no comments. To digg up a device and quit watching what i am just to see the price not worth it. So often i dont bother watching any more.
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