12 Gauge Mag-Fed Shotgun Pistol: SDM M870 Shorty 

It is a killer price.2xin leg holsters instead of an MP7.

I'll pack this on my lunch box every day

@@notchipotle Who knows how the barbecue sauce affects this firearm?

In Canada we have the Dominion Arms Grizzly and Kodiak shorty shotguns - 8.5" barrels and offered in tube magazine and box fed MKA 1919 style magazine which means it can take the 5rd.. 10rd.. 19rd.. and drum magazines. They even come in a marine coat finish and a drop leg holster is available for them too. The tube fed magazine option holds 3 + 1 and the receivers on the Grizzly come pre drilled and tapped while the Kodiak receivers have the dovetail grooves. They chamber 2 3/4" and 3" and are smooth bore barrels - not threaded for chokes - and the Grizzly series are Chinese made Rem870 clones while the Kodiak series are Turkish made and are a bit better quality than the Chinese. Being the rules are very different in Canada.. buying one of these is no different than buying a regular shotgun.. no tax stamp.. no waiting.. and it is classified as non-restricted meaning you can buy it and walk out the store with it. Personally I own 2 of the 8.5" Dominion Arms Kodiaks - one tube fed in black and one mag fed in Marine coat finish with the drop leg holster. You could easily change out the stocks on these shotguns and install a folding stock or pistol grip or even a shockwave style birds head raptor grip.. but Canadian law says that they have to remain in the factory stock to maintain the 26" overall length or else they become a non-restricted firearm and then MUST be registered. There are many videos here on RU-vid of the 8.5" DA Grizzly.. but you wont see many of the DA Kodiak as they seem to be much more rare.. so Im glad that I grabbed 2 of them when I did - they are now impossible to get in Canada now and I highly doubt any more will ever be produced. Canadians and their short barreled shotgun laws are about the ONLY thing Americans should be jealous of.. as all the rest of the ridiculous firearm laws in Canada totally suck.

@@dreadnaughttactical Thank you. What for do you find 8.5inch shot guns useful in Canada?

He is probably well prepared and chances are that he speak 2 - 4 languages as well. The thing is that we can't expect everybody to speak english as their primary or secondary language.

Ho do you came to the idea he was not prepared? Maybe its just european to be more honest and not sugarcoating things!

Beats “oh it’s affordable.” Being like 50 bucks+ a mag

@@Gieszkanne Some questions he struggled a bit, but as I said, I liked him and his honesty. Just some hiccups (honestly could be just because of speaking a foreign language).

​@@Jtoob-z5n 🤣 I've literally been in a argument, someone was say $2,300 was affordable.

Especially if you get a double stack 12. gauge box mag like what moss berg was trying a few years back...

The mag tube is canceled out for the detachable mags on these type of shotguns. If they could figure out a way to carry 5 in the tube and 5 in the mag it would be revolutionary

Already been done, look up M26 MASS

Small drum mag would make this great!

@@Heisenbrick No, when it comes to 12 gauge you're better off with box mags. Remember, you're essentially dealing with a rimmed cartridge so loading them into a drum mag creates logistical problems with the design. It can be done, but it's far more difficult and expensive. Not to mention the fact that drum mags are just more complicated in general, and there for less reliable than box mags. Also, it's way easier and less cumbersome to carry multiple box mags on your person than drum. There's also the issue of this pistols dimensions and length which look as though it would be kind of hard to operate the pump with a drum in the middle, but I'm only guessing on that part.

literally just build a mossberg 590m as a pistol and itll be better than this chinesium piece of junk

Copy the concepts and make them yourself

There is a manufacturer in the US who will have a working prototype of this gun in 2023.

@@smokingcrab2290 Not everyone on this channel is a full fledged gunsmith. A lot of us are enthusiasts of some kind.

now you know how it is for europeans to watch US shows lol

Chuck Norris can work both pumps simultaneously with his beard and he'll never run out of ammo

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Yeah, I could see the 'hero' installing one of those cheesy looking D-shaped pump handles on one of them (like in From Dusk 'Til Dawn) and the 'hero' could insert the other shotgun through the handle and wield and fire them like a cross; simultaneously for a few scenes.

Hell Yeah

Looks just like Ricardo Tubbs Serbu Super Shorty from Miami Vice

2.5 cm per inch

25,4mm per inch. It's like ballparking meters to feet by just multiplying by three. Sure, dividing feet by three gives yards and that's one tenth shorter than a meter, but that's an extra layer of math.

@@Tounushi Dividing feet by three gives you yards? I understand that the regard system is confusing to us civilized people, but damn.

@@arcuz7862 300 feet = 100 yards = 90 meters.

@@Tounushi Why not just multiply by 0.303 or by 0.909. We usually convert feet/inches to cm and yards to meters directly, our advanced nonmurican brains can do that.

No need to, actual cinese production is superior to Remington parts.

@kilgor5793 I would not say horrible. Peoplle both here and overseas claim it works. Main differrnces are a forged steel receiver amd some grittiness here and there. Nothing that can't be solved by use. Even the trigger housing is metal, while Remington has been using plastic for a while.

​@Kilgor bullshit. It's well known that the IAC Hawk\ Chinese copies are better than the newer American made 870s.

@@TheHiddenPart The only thing I have ever heard that goes in that direction was, that the SigSauer 226 clone from Norinco had better steel quality. But this doesnt mean that the actual machining/manufacturing is better. Not at all.

That 💩 will probably explode anyway🤷

It would be even cheaper still to, you know, buy a quality AK that would last more than a couple seasons.

@@InvidiousIgnoramus considering that on the used market they still are around 400-450€ mark you don't loose that much, he transfers all the accessories

@@InvidiousIgnoramus Corrosive ammo is pretty freakin cheap

@@InvidiousIgnoramus we have them. We have more than you Imagine.

That's crazy. Same price as a 1911 in the states.

@@SkylorBeck lmao what

@@Jtoob-z5n Rock Island 1911A1 is about $400 USD.

@@SkylorBeck that’s one of the shittiest 1911s on the market. An average 1911 is more like $800-$1500 for “normal” production 1911s.

@@enzoswoodshop1052 I didn't say a "good 1911". A bad gun is still a gun. All guns kill people.

We need more minishells in production and we need more mags and adapters to use them. The minishells concept needs to be adopted more.

Not only is it a pump action, but it's also way too short for Austria. 😭

@@ShootAUT So true.

Their website says only 300 euros

@@ahomicidaltaco well that's good then. 👍🏻

You're fucking joking right?

@@jasonweiss2773 why do you ask?

That would be epic!

@@oni_goroshi Chicago pneumatic “typewriter”

I've heard the exact same... Undeniable FACTS 💯 😁

Well ya can always hold it an only use a few inches

But you'll still get made fun of if you have less than 9"

faster reload and weight is distributed closer to the middle