"12 Second Rule" and "Fisherman Vision" will make You 90% Safer! 

You assume that common sense is common. It's not

All of those are great to have out on the road but definitely need to practice skills like emergency braking and slow speed maneuvering. Staying safe is 50% responsible riding 50% skills. Stay safe!

oh man! 60 years! Im wanting to buy a motorcycle with all my heart, but everybody tell me that its almost a sure death. Did you had close encounters?

​@@JhoelSLCgo buy a motorcycle and practice. if it's too dangerous, then it's your fault, I bet. riding safe will be fun, close calls are most likely something you will experience multiple times, but following good tips and tricks, training in safe areas both alone and together with someone, and you will be way safer than people who think they're good riders, just because they survive being idiots. being an idiot on 2 wheels will most likely kill you

You have to drive defensively as well as offensively

Always a good Ride for you 👍

Riding defensively will actually make you a much faster rider than the average person because you're already reading everything that could potentially happen and adjust on the run to any possible obstacle or hazard removing any element of surprise. In turn that can make you quite fast and make you seem a lot more fearless to other riders but your fearlessness come from all the inputs you brain receive and taking the best route. Sounds complicated but it usually is effortlessly even though you're aware of all that happens.

It been keep I alive.

Maybe, I find I don't need to be reminded of one of my fav childhood games. Predict it, where I would scan the rink, predict the possible actions of every skater and determine which ones they will be taking and what actions I need to take to avoid them while practicing figure skating routines. Got good enough 1.5 seconds meant I had 5-15 seconds of predicted data. I used to think it was the funnest game ever. Now it feels like a calming form of meditation. I'm not skating backwards or across the rink while doing difficult jumps on a bike so it's much much easier. Teach your kids how to play 'predict it' while also doing something else and they'll have no issues with mental effort from it when they're older and switch from skating to riding. Maybe that's just an autistic ADHD thing what with the hyper focus and inability to stay focused on any single thing when unmedicated

I like this, I pretend every car is trying to kill me.

your message should be pinned as a summary of the video, because it's a short explanation of the whole video, but with a simple way to remember it

Sounds similar to UK Police riding handbook - Information, Speed, Gears, Acceleration. Changed the way I ride and drive to maximise situational awareness and provide time to decide what to do and execute in a smooth controlled manner. Also saves brake pads!

I call it my spider sense

Its legal in Europe and car drivers are less freaked out by it as a consequence

It might break your mind, but in Europe, car drivers actually look to the sides before changing lane

We can't get people to stop texting and driving here in the U.S.A. While doing that, they don't use turn signals while changing lanes.

In Southern California drivers don't use turn signals at all! Drives me nuts 😊 In general US drivers are terrible compared to what I've seen in Europe.

Filtering / lane splitting is illegal in Greece. Most people riding motorcycles do it anyway. Most car drivers change lanes without checking their mirrors or using their turn signals. That's why I only lane split / filter when I'm absolutely sure it's safe and I ride like everyone is trying to actively kill me.

Amen. Riding is a constant assault of potential threats & potential reactions for the rider.

car is on your right thus he has the right of way. slow tf down

Very true. started riding again after a 10 year break and i had to get back in this mode. whenever i see a car even possibly turn out on me from a distance i reduce my speed to the point where braking before impact is possible.

@@dxrevelations5111 Thats assuming its a 4-way stop which is not the case in the video. A yield or stop sign right of a THROUGH TRAFFIC intersection does not mean you have the right of way. And in the video he was not overtly speeding and even slowed down in anticipation of a driver FAILING TO YIELD to through traffic which is the citation an officer of the law would've give had a collision occurred in this scenario, ask me how I know.

@@dxrevelations5111 What country do you ride in, where a vehicle coming out of a side turning has right of way over those on the main carriageway?

You're also giving yourself much better line of sight. If you're following 1 second behind a guy, then he suddenly swerves to avoid a head-on collision, you're distracted by his swerve then have like half a second to recognize and react yourself. If you're following 3 seconds back, the other guy is blocking much less of your vision, so you'll see the head-on car much earlier (perhaps before the other guy does), and, additionally, have more time to react to things you don't see earlier. Now, if you're doing 20 mph, 3 seconds is a bit overkill, especially if there's a car immediately behind you (at a safe distance, so they're blocking you from getting rear-ended by someone flying up behind you). 20 mph is about 30 ft/s (it's 29.33... but 1½:1 is a good rule of thumb to convert mph to ft/s). It takes about 1 second to stop on a good surface (typically a bit under 1 gee, or 32 ft/s², which will call 30 ft/s²), during which time you travel about 15 feet (while decelerating, your average speed is half your max speed, assuming fairly constant braking, which isn't a bad assumption). 15 feet is how far you'd travel in 0.5 seconds at your full speed, so 3 seconds back (90 feet) gives you 2.5 seconds of reaction time, when 1.5 seconds (2 seconds total) is probably enough. At 10-15 mph, you could get away with 1 second of following distance. Conversely, 4-5 seconds is better on the highway. 60 mph is about 90 ft/s, which takes about 3 seconds to stop from on a good surface, during which time you travel about 135 feet, which corresponds to 1.5 seconds of your following distance. If you're only 3 seconds behind, that gives you 1.5 seconds to react. That's usually enough, but at those speeds, it starts to become harder to determine what people are doing at the relevant distances, so your reaction time tends to be a bit worse. At 85 mph (the highest speed limit I know of in the U.S.), you're doing about 125 ft/s. It takes a bit over 4 seconds to stop, during which time you're traveling 260 feet. That's about 2.1 seconds of following distance. At 3 seconds, you're only getting 0.9 seconds to react, and things are much further away when you need to be reacting. So 5-7 seconds of following distance is better. Note also that motorcycles don't stop quite as well as cars under perfect conditions, and it's harder to stop (near) perfectly on a bike than a car. So you really want an extra half-second or so of following distance on a motorcycle. On the other hand, bikes can squeeze into smaller spaces, so sometimes you can get away with less following distance if you're good at swerving. And if you're not on a good surface (rain, snow, gravel), you want even more distance. If you're using metric, the kph to m/s conversions don't work quite the same, but both systems use seconds for time (other than a couple years in the 1790s where they had proper metric time), so the following distances and reaction times in seconds are the same.

@@GeekOfAllness Sometimes collision is inevitable and distance allows you to slow down enough not to hit full speed on, avoiding major injury or worst. Security is the game of precents it can never be 100% safe but the more things you use and learn you are closer to that bar.

Same in Canada. I can't recall ever seeing a motorcyclist thread between lanes. I thought that was just something they do in the movies to amplify a sense of danger and urgency.

@KF1 Let's be honest - it's super stupid to do and even more to teach others this riding style, sorry...

Don't be sorry if you're not. I completely agree that it's dangerous and, to add to the danger, could be rage-inducing in certain cases. That said, people gonna do what people gonna do. Not my call. @@mozzfather

@KF1 oh yes, this would definitely make everybody feel insulted and lead to some road rage scenes. As everybody knows, the Germans like their autobahn clean and tidy ;)

This is a big one, coming from operating trains of all things, our SOPs say the same, we call it operating on sight distance

Sorry to hear about your leg , glad your still riding. I ride expecting every side road driver to pull out on me & its served me well for the last 20 years . Also run bright led headlights on all the time , that also helps 👍

@@stestar09 That was and still is my riding practice too. The driver that hit me was stationary in the middle of the road waiting to turn off, over the path of oncoming traffic (so on the other side from the nearside road joiners - but its a similar story). He didn't move as I approached him warily, watching his every move. He only started to turn his steering wheel when I was already too close to change to a braking strategy, I gave it gas instead to try to get our of his way but he accellerated hard into the side of the bike. I had full headlights on. His behaviour was consistent with being a psychopath - both at the time (when he left me lying on the road bleeding out, while he tried to move his car to a less incriminating spot) and during the court case where he didn't show up and sent a lawyer to lie for him. So no-one will ever know for sure what he was thinking or doing. But he was a married man turning into a brothel car park and had driven 100km over the border to keep his guilty secret. I guess that had a lot to do with it.

@@amp2amp800 If you slow too much, they often take it as an invitation to pass.

yeah. I was a little nervous watching him in traffic.

YEAH, HE IS RIDING DANGEROUSLY

GOOD ADVICE ON 12 SECOND AND FISHING CASTING OF THE RIDER'S EYES.

For the average rider perhaps... but this guy has max awareness of what is going on around him and more skill and bike control than >90% of us.

I've seen 6 seconds, 8 seconds, 10 seconds, and 15 seconds. This is the first time I've ever heard someone say 12 seconds. It's not really important, since you really can't adjudicate where 6 seconds away is with terrible accuracy, let alone anything further. And the "rule" is really just suggesting you look out as far as you can see, whether that's 2 seconds away or 20. 12 seconds is an eternity in a car or on a bike, and nothing that's safe 12 seconds away is remotely guaranteed to be safe 10 seconds later when you actually need to start reacting. About the only thing I look for that far down the road is obviously-parked traffic at highway speeds. For everything else, you can look 4 or 5 seconds away and be fine. Of course, it's pretty trivial to occasionally look to the horizon, but I have seen people who spend too much time looking way out yonder when the real threats are 2-3 seconds away. The worst of the threats tend to be a couple seconds away and off to the left or right since those tend to be the hardest to avoid. Almost anything straight in front of you can be avoided by simply slowing down, as long as you maintain a decent following distance. Of course, if you start running 100 mph through 60 mph traffic, you start having to look several seconds ahead and right in front of you all at the same time, since it's all a threat. But that shouldn't be most people's typically drive to work.

@@KurtFrederiksen European are better driversd out of the books, due to lessons only.

It applies even on a 1/4 mile drag straight. If there is an obstacle at the end of the 1/4 mile track, don't launch.

That's why I'm not a fan of under bar mirrors, too hard to use them.

Yup, riding 50cc Tomos bikes on the Twisties is terrifying if said bike isn't outfitted with them, had a few occasions on a 80 km ride where a car was overtaking me in a corner and cutting off my line. P.S. the bike wasn't mine, it was my uncle's, otherwise I would've installed mirrors. Still whenever I'm riding every 30 seconds or so I turn my head around to see the situation behind me and if there are any impatient drivers who won't be able to wait until the next straightaway to overtake me.

Not really🙂 It's Buenos Aires, motorcycles are not expected to drive like cars here. It's also something we have to consider when riding, we can't ride the same way in London and Mumbai.

@@MotoControlEn I second this. I am from Buenos Aires, and while I started riding relatively recently I had driven cars here for a couple decades. At first I tried to ride the way I drove, which sort of worked for a bit, but then I felt ready to go out and practice during peak hours and in more intense parts of the city, and the problem is that cars don't know how to deal with bikes that behave like cars, especially when drivers are really stressed because of work and also delivery motorcycles which are a nightmare. I still try to keep my place in the lane, and not filter because it's technically "not allowed" (whatever that means in Argentina, sadly), but sometimes they basically push you into doing so or staying where you were becomes very unsafe.

@@MotoControlEn Sounds like fun and explains why you're passing everyone. Looks dangerous. Bet the rate of motorcycle accidents in high relative to the U.S. if that type of driving is the norm.

@@MichaelWhite-cx4ho are you sure? The US isn't a good example of anything related to safe driving / riding. I live in the same place where he's riding in the video, and while I don't ride like that (also aren't anywhere as experienced so I would feel completely out of my depth) I have rarely seen accidents in those situations. And I've been along that same road on and off for over 20 years now.

It's safer to keep progressing through traffic otherwise you become invisible. Also it's good to get away from the cars wherever possible.

Same here, been driving heavies 26 years, when i learned to ride the bike three years ago i just transferred the skills over.

Chuck is a god

How did that go 11 days on , did you pass ?

@@stestar09 yes indeed woohooooooooooooooooo!!! A few minor faults for going under speed limit and “undue hesitation” at roundabouts but it was my first time on a big bike in the rain - I was being very cautious. Now to go bike shopping!!

Thank you my man! ☺️

For sure not, the idea is to do it mentally not particularly with the eyes

It's even more funny that the person giving safety advice to others doing that lol

When lane splitting became legal in California, my prosthetist said that his “leg business” expanded by 700%. Let that sink in…..

Riding a little faster than the cars around you is actually safer.

Yes!! I do this while on my non-motor bicycle 100%. If I'm a ghost on my motorcycle, I'm like 110% a ghost on my bike. I do realize it's not their fault or intention to not see me, they're just used to seeing big things like other cars. So it's on me.

Well put.