Even Motojitsu gets This Wrong

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A little info about me. My name is Andrei Bodrov, originally I'm from Moscow, Russia, and now I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Back in Moscow I was a motorcycle instructor and creator of Moto Control Beginner & Advanced motorcycle rider courses, which quickly became the most popular courses in Moscow (well, at least the advanced one😁). My advanced training course makes emphasis on slow speed riding techniques at first (such as good clutch and throttle control, proper riding posture, proper use of vision, etc.), then proceeds to more advanced techniques (such as aggressive braking, trail braking, maximal lean angle). The course incorporates a lot of exercises from DOSAF slow speed riding (similar to police rodeo like motorcycle training in USA), braking and cornering exercises and motogymkhana style riding. And now, since I actively learn English - I decided to post some useful videos for both your and mine practice!😉
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Since everyone writes this, it's necessary, I suppose 🤷, so here we go. Disclaimer: Ride at your own risk, you are responsible for your own safety. Me, Andrey Bodrov and my channel, Moto Control disclaim any liability incurred in connection with the use of riding techniques from this channel. Use common sense, wear full protective gear and ride in a safe and predictable manner!
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@timessix8434 Месяц назад

When are you doing a wheelie training? 😅

@MotoControlEn Месяц назад

If your comment gets 100 likes - ok, I'll make one😁

@jetink600 Месяц назад

Let's run these comments up boys!

@idioluh5838 Месяц назад

Now that's gonna be fun. Thumbs up everyone :D

@timessix8434 Месяц назад

Yay, come on, peoples!!!

@charliecharlie9042 Месяц назад

Yes please, make it on a low cc bike too

@anonymous-rj6ok Месяц назад

"we dont go fast to lean a lot; we're forced to lean a lot because we want to go fast" Brilliant quote!

@IkaikaArnado Месяц назад

Brilliant quote indeed

@markeezbaroon2033 Месяц назад

exelent ..

@diego432hz Месяц назад

Then why in this example 3:02 the turn is tighter when did at faster speeds?

@banzobeans Месяц назад

👍

@KibberShuriq Месяц назад

@@diego432hz Probably because a different section of the front wheel is in contact with the pavement. He's not saying leaning does not help, just that it does not help as much as MJ claims. The radius is maybe 10% less, nothing to write home about.

@justposi Месяц назад

MJ Rehashed his ideas 10 times already he's struggling to find new ideas other than buying a new bike every other week. And it really shows.

@MrBCRC Месяц назад

So true 😂😂😂

@philipperoche2577 Месяц назад

It really shows, and HE keeps showing off as if he was THE "motorcycle god" in the US. Considering the average level of American riders, which I was able to observe while riding the Route 66 from Chicago to LA in 2013, he's just the one-eyed man in the expression "In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king". En français, on dirait qu'il a pris la grosse tête.

@parkinglotpilot Месяц назад

😂 yep!

@aluisious Месяц назад

He's struggling to find ideas because he's not a smart guy. He's a loudmouth who uploads a lot. That impresses some people, and it doesn't impress other people.

@Hverbpro 27 дней назад

@@philipperoche2577 Exactly. I’ve said this before. He’s fairly competent by their standards, which is very low. Not to mention his tips and ideas are generally unfounded and could mislead someone who knows very little into getting themselves into a situation. It wouldn’t be so bad if he pointed out that it was ‘his own approach and just an idea’ as opposed to ‘this is how it must be done!’ And then not being able to handle comments. He has none of the attributes of a true motorcyclist or proper instructor.

@sCiphre Месяц назад

Motojitsu's method of slow riding is to ride fast. Which is a really weird conclusion to come to, since the whole point of the exercise is to drive slow. Moto Control bringing the correct solution as usual.

@aabe4327 Месяц назад

yea. When I pointed out that the slow speed test to get a license over here requires you to go below 5 km/h the whole time, he just brushed it off with "who cares". His method would just make me fail the test.

@davidbrayshaw3529 Месяц назад

@@aabe4327 Where are you licensed? When I got mine in Australia, many years ago, we were required to do a "slow" test in a straight line. Cornering, box stops and braking were tested at 25kmh. I very nearly crashed on the cornering test, too!

@motoryzen Месяц назад

@@aabe4327 If you lean the bike enough at 7 mph...you'd still be able to do a 15foot u turn. Greg has proven that time and time again. Show me proof that ANY normal ( we're not talking motor officer btw and even then..15 foot its plenty tight enough ) license test is harder than that level of turn for the every day joe and jane and that the only way to clear it is 3 to 5 mph speeds where you can't lean the bike and only do counter balancing or can't lean the bike more than 10% or 10 degrees and STILL make a sub 16 foot turn Guess what? Not even on my cb500x can that be done WITHOUT leaning the bike..some. Also Bret Tkacs has PROVEN my point accurate. Go ahead...argue with him...He's just as good a boss at riding both on road AND offroad.

@FGGiskard Месяц назад

Nah mate, my spanish test already included a weave where either you lean the bike or cannot pass. Why? Because it is the most effective turning strategy . Can you get away with turning straight up? Yes in many cases (and sometimes for sure it is needed) but it does not mean that you know how to control your bike properly and probably fear leaning the bike at slower speeds.

@RVRCloset Месяц назад

Exactly!..🤦‍♂️ In Sweden, no matter how big the bike is, the slow speed test will fail if you go faster than 5 km/h. He do fast maneuver exercises, not really useful in trafic situations.. I stopped watching Motojitsu's videos years ago.

@pearlbullet Месяц назад

I'm not going to say anything about other instructors videos, but what I will say is I'm a much better and safer and confident rider because of your videos 😊

@bigcat3768 Месяц назад

So I follow both of these channels. I've been riding all my life and do drills as prescribed- by both of these professionals- and pick something up every time I practice- from both. These two gentlemen have different perspectives on the same topic but honestly, I do not see error in either approach- MotoJitsu has a heavy underlying tone of taking control of your bike, making it your own, comprehending the forces and demonstrating the "room" you develop (comfort level) when you take a drill out of street context and do it simply to alleviate your fears and misunderstandings about the physics of riding. That is a good thing. Moto Control, I feel is a more street literal style of professional riding and training, helping you develop equally solid discipline on the bike without some of the approaches demonstrated by MotoJitsu. Thank God, or they'd be saying the same thing most of the time and I'd have to choose. Everyone should have respect here, and if one points out something regarding the other, don't be quick to judge, they are both trying to do the right thing by their audiences. We should all have respect, and this is respectfully submitted. Ride in Peace LOL

@Vortecs Месяц назад

Well said. I too have learned a lot from both these men.

@apiyutsiyapan9582 Месяц назад

Your read my mind. Thanks.

@MattFellowswasHere Месяц назад

Jistu is an AWFUL HUMAN--full stop…

@ravedisc Месяц назад

@@MattFellowswasHerehow is that, why?

@bigcat3768 Месяц назад

@@MattFellowswasHere Dude, it’s not that bad. Really.

@CodeNinj Месяц назад

It feels like the real difference between his vertical example and yours was that he was keeping balance with steering inputs, and you were doing so with speed control, which is kinda what you want to learn anyway. If you have good clutch/speed control, you can turn at any speed instead of NEEDING to speed up to make sharp turns.

@zombiewoof5257 19 дней назад

The internet is full of self-declared specialists, Motojitsu is one of them.

@__Max-oe6zm 16 дней назад

*MotoShihtzu

@julieb5434 10 дней назад

I’m gonna say it, I think motojitsu is a cranky poser.

@PMitchell106 Месяц назад

Motojitsu is the type of guy who prints out brochures and pamphlets about motorcycle training, sells them on Amazon, then writes in his Hinge profile that he has "authored" several "books" 😂

@jace2wheel762 Месяц назад

The guy knows his shit, his delivery sucks all kinds of monkey dick. Hes arrogant as all get out

@FlesHBoX Месяц назад

This is the difference between one who seeks to educate, and one who seeks to be seen as an expert.

@BigStreams_ Месяц назад

That super slow turn at full lock while keeping the bike perfectly straight up is such a flex on how good your bike control is. It’s so hard to do that without moving the bars at all to balance. Edit: spelling

@gjergjipocari8227 Месяц назад

Yeah that was nuts. I still struggle with full lock even a bit more fast but doing that suuuper slow without moving the handlebars an inch was epic.

@ducksoff7236 Месяц назад

That's why you keep the rpm's up. Listen to how high he is revving. The rotational mass has a gyroscopic effect and does most of the work on keeping the bike upright. Clutch control = bike control. Its counter intuitive but you give it more gas at slow speed around 2500rpm and control speed with clutch and rear brake. You can also see it in the video. Look at his right hand. Completely on the throttle not a finger on the front brake. Watch is right foot warble to help him keep the speed reigned in.

@inevespace Месяц назад

@@ducksoff7236 rev it to the limiter and see how much gyroscopic effect helps.

@Coffeeteabike 26 дней назад

In some countries , to do this is a requirement to obtain driver/rider license. Fail to do so means you lack training and they'll send you back to Leaner program. If this is a flex , probably at learner level of said countries.

@BigStreams_ 26 дней назад

@@Coffeeteabike what country requires the rider to move at less than 1mph with the feet up at full steering lock, only controlling the balance of the bike with the clutch and footbrake just to obtain a license?

@jmacknet2 Месяц назад

Moto Control continues to be one of the most technically-accurate motorcycle riding technique channels on RU-vid. No BS, no dogma, no speculation. Just cold hard analysis and facts.

@torryc Месяц назад

And no ego

@jace2wheel762 Месяц назад

@@torrycMotojitsu's biggest drawback by leaps and bounds

@Busybody21 Месяц назад

MotoJitsu and MotoControl can both be right at the same time. The devil is in the detail. Crawling at 2mph is DEFINITELY harder to control. Pick up some speed and it becomes a breeze. Motojitsu is right, but so is Andrei.

@brianglendenning1632 Месяц назад

There are times where carrying more speed is acceptable and times when it is not.

@bijoux Месяц назад

Leaning a bike is so much harder to do slow than fast. What MJ is saying is an advance skill. No beginner rider will be able to do that and yet he is saying it is the mistake beginner riders always make.

@Stacy_Smith Месяц назад

I wish I would've read this BEFORE I posted my comment. "You kinda sorta proved Motojitsu right. Notice the complexity of throttle/clutch control along with a higher degree of balance required with the slower circle vs. the faster circle? Tight rope walking is possible, but that doesn't mean the average person can master it. If it's easier to do it at a faster pace, then why not teach it that way?"

@literal_lee Месяц назад

@@Stacy_Smith Because in a lot countries you will fail the licensing test. Simple.

@Juicybignut00 Месяц назад

@@Stacy_Smith in japan for a 401cc and up license you need to be able to balance on a beam for 9 seconds or more and its not that long of a beam lol. ask me how i know.

@marsoelflaco5722 Месяц назад

Motojitsu, like many motorcycle riding "pundits," regurgitates topics and talking points, and relies on click bait video titles as "never do this...or else" or "always do this...or else."

@ThePlacehole Месяц назад

as if the suffix of -jitsu didn't tip you off that the channel would be more about "cool" then about truth

@inevespace Месяц назад

As I remember he quit job few years ago and now wants to get money from channel.

@marsoelflaco5722 Месяц назад

@inevespace He was a US Marine drill instructor. He's milked his "how to" motorcycle content dry. His first 30 to 40 episodes will give you all you need to consider for riding.

@inevespace Месяц назад

@@marsoelflaco5722 I know, I watched him around 2020

@samurijder9550 Месяц назад

I love all these kinds of reaction videos. Thank you Andrey! Cheers from the Netherlands!

@timessix8434 Месяц назад

Nice. I think you got it right. I am impressed by your bike control.

@1step2deadline Месяц назад

MotoJitsu is a prick. Sorry to be this straightforward but the guy can't take a critic and doesn't learn from the community. Even if he's wrong he won't admit. Keep up the good work mate. Cheers.

@ZabDevin Месяц назад

Same thing I said. It’s so true.

@__Max-oe6zm 16 дней назад

*MotoShihtzu

@josephcuison5412 14 дней назад

In one of his videos, I pointed out that he was wrong in his definition and difference between trail and rake. He didn’t like it and just said he isn’t going to correct what he said. That’s when I knew he is a prick and no different than any other self-declared “experts”. I bet he can’t even do a proper wheelie so I don’t think he is on that level of bike control mastery, ergo, not that good of a rider, just average like any of us.

@likkitongue 3 дня назад

I'm so glad someone sees him for who he is. I called him out on one of his videos and instead of having a conversation he just started with insults and condescending comments.

@davidtruong9367 Месяц назад

Respect is a two way street and you are utmost one of the most skilled instructors who shows high levels of respect to all. Keep up the great work, sir! 🙏❤️

@erocnw1341 Месяц назад

Good video. Motojitsu often doesn't provide context or nuance. He presents his concepts as being the only correct way to ride and he ridicules anyone who uses other techniques.

@alastairtheduke Месяц назад

Can't wait for his followup when he calls you an idiot

@nikisaunders2634 Месяц назад

I agree.. I didn't like his technique for a long time .... but now I know its not me who is mad 🤔 .... I thout for a while that I was

@countbrapcula-espana Месяц назад

Attributes of 100% narcissism

@SongJLikes Месяц назад

Motojitsu is an ex-drill instructor… of course, he has the ‘my-way-or-the-highway’ approach to riding

@Ian-xt1mb Месяц назад

@@SongJLikes He appears to think he is the God of motorcycles.

@ricardoespanol777 Месяц назад

I followed MJ some time ago. My reason to stop was not the kind of drills he proposed, but the fact he was teaching and showing track techniques to ride full speed in the open twisties; really dangerous and inadequate I think.

@mhoeij Месяц назад

He's not going to like this...

@MotoControlEn Месяц назад

We won't tell him😁

@Atrip111 Месяц назад

Dont worry ge won't watch it. Not someone doing his excersises or telling him he is great.

@mattburkett9419 Месяц назад

@@Atrip111he watched, and he’s doing his best to tank his rep in the comments. 😂

@Atrip111 Месяц назад

That was fun nice video got lost last night for a while reading comments before bed. Woke up to a notification with a comment back but it's gone including mine. But my phone could just be dumb like usual

@yanierolivera4678 Месяц назад

Motojitsu is not even close to your riding level of experience. His slow speed manoeuvres are obviously not quite as advanced as yours. This is by far the best channel for motorcycle riding tips and techniques. Thats all you need! One good channel and this is it!

@mortaljorma69 Месяц назад

lol those bikes are different like night and day. Its way easier to do slowspeed turns with a 50kg bike than 250kg GS.

@carlostomas3698 Месяц назад

Is there any motor bike that weights 50 Kg?

@lucascarracedo7421 Месяц назад

@@mortaljorma69you're clearly not aware of the fact that Andrey can do the same with any bike. He doesn't need to prove anything. Also, yeah, it's exactly the same. It's not about body weight or strength.

@mygi43543 Месяц назад

@@mortaljorma69 greg will say the bike doesn't mater.... Heres the thing, greg isn't doing this stuff in a real world application, he's doing it in a carpark.

@lucascarracedo7421 Месяц назад

@@mygi43543 he also failed to do it on the gsxr he had not that long ago. And sold it after a lot of people requested him to do his own exercises with that bike.

@desmondmccabe7239 Месяц назад

Hope other people see this post .as a older rider. I thought motogitsus advice was poor and would be confusing to learner riders. Glad you put it right

@inevespace Месяц назад

90% of motojitsu videos are very bad and looks like he is aiming audience who touched bikes first time in life.

@BeyondPrideMF Месяц назад

I think you are by far the best channel out there and have helped me so much as someone who's only had his license for about 8 months now (and 4 of them being winter months where I couldn't ride). My goal for this year is to watch all your videos and take notes. On that note: Could you please do a video about emergency braking in corners (so coming to a full stop fast while cornering/leaning)? Thank you!

@MotoControlEn Месяц назад

All right, I'll try to make one!

@girdhar3224 Месяц назад

@MotoControlEn ty

@robdefire4747 Месяц назад

Mothitsuwhatsit got upset when he posted a vid and a number of trained Advanced riders pointed out he was doing it wrong. He shut down comments for a couple of months. One thing Advanced riders know is that you are always learning, he cant cope with it. Great vid.

@literal_lee Месяц назад

According to Jitsu advanced riders do not exist. There are only pro racers, cops, 8th graders, whitebelts, wannabees and Greg himself. Advanced riders that have been riding longer than him, are obviously all liars.

@jaron5958 Месяц назад

Haha yes I've seen this as well, comments on every video criticizing his teachings and then when he tried to call them bad riders they uploaded videos of them professionally racing before he turned his comments off 😂

@literal_lee Месяц назад

@@jaron5958 Yep, been there. "How do I know that is you riding ?" he'd comment. 😁 (Not a pro-racer but it worked out the same......)

@pauliemurphy4787 Месяц назад

Motojitsu is a hack, period. Way back, when he himself was still learning, he made good points for beginners, but once he began this whole "belt" thing and began improving as a rider he became arrogant, and dismissive of riders that are real professionals(not just some person with a youtube channel), and riders like myself, with dozens of years more experience than him.

@PMitchell106 Месяц назад

Guy is incredibly fragile and soft, it worries me when people try to excuse his childishness by saying he's a former marine, as if that's a good reason to lash out nonsensically when you're wrong.

@motoringwithmouseball1219 Месяц назад

Motojitsu is not on my Andre’s level… I’m sorry not sorry. When i say my Andre is the best … he is the best!!! Again the Michael Jordan of motorcycle instructor

@enhinyerorider5914 Месяц назад

Andre’s skills are actually closer if not equal to the Japanese police and Motogymkhana riders.

@banzobeans Месяц назад

💯

@greyshrub8164 Месяц назад

Great video! Motojitsu is just over hyped. Over time he has turned arrogant and thinks only he knows best. Love the way this video explains the details and states that what helps in real life situations is most important.

@literal_lee Месяц назад

Arrogant ? Motojitsu ? Well... you don't say ?!... 😜

@stavrozinio Месяц назад

this

@smashy_smasherton Месяц назад

I can turn at -4 bananas per hour with no pants. You guys all pale in comparison.

@DistinctOgre Месяц назад

That guy gets a lot more wrong than people give him credit for.

@lamefart8831 Месяц назад

I once corrected him about his opinion on Ryan of Fortnine's explanation about how motorcycles' tires behave while turning (leaning),he felt slighted. I just said it was just an explanation of what happened and not an instructional video, he then attacked me. Lol

@DistinctOgre Месяц назад

@@lamefart8831 Sounds familiar. He's an idiot, imo. I'm not saying everything he says is wrong, and he has good useful videos. Everything he says sure as hell ain't right though, and he accepts correction like a child. Edit: a spoiled child, but that's just my opinion.

@Slowcalcones Месяц назад

Sure does. And he has an ego and thinks his opinion and way of doing things is the only and best way. If you don’t do it his way you’re wrong.

@mattburkett9419 Месяц назад

@@lamefart8831his responses in the comments have turned me away from ever listening to him. Doesn’t matter how good you are, if you’re a jackass you’re gonna be treated like one.

@bigtreecombatacademy2927 Месяц назад

@@mattburkett9419yeah man he is an arrogant person Who also rides 50 mph over the limit and claims he is safe cause he is good

@IN_ZANE_ 22 дня назад

If you liked that MotoShihtzu video, you should check out a recent "rider training" video by PetroHead called 5 Habits New & Experienced Motorcycle Riders Must Develop. It has lots of bad advice, including how leaning your upper body in turns is more important than steering input with hands. Lots of people have commented questioning what is said, but he just deletes the comments and now the video has almost no comments anymore. Someone needs to do a similar review video for this one too so he doesn't keep putting out educational videos without any accountability.

@stevewalker2028 Месяц назад

MotoJ is American, his mindset assumes wide roads and plenty of space for circus riding. MotoC understands the real world of urban traffic, which is everyday for us in Europe.

@log8746 Месяц назад

and his ego is massive

@girdhar3224 Месяц назад

Point@@log8746

@kurfsolb Месяц назад

Yes they have plenty of space. If there's one things I envy Americans, it's all them wideass roads they have, even in town areas. Here in Europe, it's sometimes painful.

@fidgetwidget9116 Месяц назад

And also useful in Asia. India or Thailand.

@davidcann8788 Месяц назад

Not to mention countries like Thailand, where I ride.

@JinKazama92 Месяц назад

In my country Philippines motojitsu's advice of speed = stability is going to get you into an accident in heavy traffic conditions.

@boboboy8189 Месяц назад

Motojitsu technique is for racing on tracks/racing circuit. Not for real world situation. I know this because there's a rider who shows a technique like him to beginner to prevent fear of leaning on tracks circuit. Meanwhile driving school teaches us things that are need on road

@Muzikji Месяц назад

Normally, most of riders reach a point where they can't absorb any more technique and skill, but if one of them thinks he fits to be an instructor, then it's a disaster!. Your video is a clear example of what I am talking about. I stopped watching MJ videos months ago, I am not interested in watching what bike people buy and sell every couple of weeks.

@NemesisDK79 Месяц назад

I have watched a lot of your videos. Dont think I have ever heard you say anything I would not agree on. You are simply the best.. Keep up the good work 👍

@lucascarracedo7421 Месяц назад

That's because he can always justify what he is saying by actually proving it both theoretically and in practice. I was lucky to be able to attend one of his classes and for every question I had there was a logic and practical explanation, which he always managed to show without showing off some flashy technique as a way to prove anything.

@SimpleDialogue Месяц назад

I like both channels very much and i have to say both of you are right. Slow speed is very subjective and it really depends on where you live and what are you trying to do. Motojitsu lives in San Diego where the roads are super wide and filtering is illigal or throwned upon. Whereas in the UK there is heavy traffic and narrow roads so staying up right and below 8mph is almost always the case. However doing a U turn or leaving a junction from a full stop you would want a higher speed and more lean angle. The beauty in motorcycling is that every situation is unique and there isnt one size fits all. Safe riding everyone

@JordanLedbetter 19 дней назад

Filtering is definitely not illegal in California.

@SimpleDialogue 18 дней назад

Thanks I wasn't sure as to which states this is legal and which not, but the main message still stands

@eco999 Месяц назад

In my humble opinion Motojistsu isn't wrong but maybe missing the key factor of SLOW turns. If you want to do the turn tighter and faster yes. lean more and add some throttle. This way you can zig-zag in corners or do u-turns verry efficiently. On the other hand, there is absolutely nothing wrong with going super slow but then you cannot really rely on heavy lean. You gotta balance it out with your body and work your handlebar hard. Both technics are useful but you got to be smart to know where to apply which.

@boboboy8189 Месяц назад

Motojitsu technique only can be applied on wide road with no people/object/cars. Meanwhile motocontrol teached a real world situation where you ride on busy road near traffic light and need slow at to make sure rider not hitting any car. I can see motojitsu works with beginner racer before joining I'm tracks and not real world situation

@Donttellmeitsraining-nb2wp Месяц назад

What you are saying is exactly what I was thinking when I watched that video. You should practice both. Why would you take tools away from a rider?

@akod.bradford2484 Месяц назад

Andrei: From an "older newbie" who *just* started riding in 10/2022, thank you for your insight. Yours was one of 3 channels that rekindled my desire to ride safely and well (the other 2 are Motor Officers). Because of your careful, analytical and practical approaches (as evidenced in this, and your many other, videos), I enjoy the process of training the techniques that you are so diligent at teaching and explaining. What you do and how you do it is much appreciated. Have a good 'un ...

@user-uu1wc6yz5z Месяц назад

Former instructor here , and hello to Moto Control . I have avoided rider training videos because too many of them are long winded , make things far more complex than they really are , or have less than the best interest in mind for the rider watching . This video showed up for no known reason in my recommendations but I watched it reluctantly . I watched your whole vid. I can clearly identify what you are doing. Obviously there are going to be , ... and there already are , criticisms on this or that in your vid . I know we all need to get along , and there can be many untrained opinions on rider techniques and commenters criticize trained instructor vids .... not unlike like yours . However , I am very happy that you did go ahead and take the time to put this together .... it takes quite a significant amount of time to do all the set up , and then all the post production . This video would be an excellent accompaniment to your SSM training segment I'm disappointed that there isn't a north american standard of training for regular street rider licencing . There should be annual or at least bi - annual on road re-testing for riders for a Very minimal cost. I say that because many accidents occur with in the first two months of a riders riding season .... whenever that occurs for each individual . Thank you once again for bring this to everyones attention. Note : You pointed out your intent is NOT to knock M J's video , and thank you for that .... you did this video very professionally . Thank you !!!!!! It is loudly evident that you have all riders best interest in mind . Ride Safe .

@wreckronomic6663 Месяц назад

I'm all for more rider safety but bi-annual retesting is insane. If you make the initial test robust enough then there is no reason to test every year or two. I do think that retesting should take place at a certain age though and at regular interval after that, if a 70 year old (or whatever age would be decided) can't pass a test to ride safely then they shouldn't be on the road (same with car drivers too)

@user-uu1wc6yz5z Месяц назад

@@wreckronomic6663 Agreed

@Kowzorz Месяц назад

Ive watched gobs and gobs of videos about low speed maneuvers and your presentation is consistently the most accurate and understandable. My low speed maneuvers have improved drastically on the big boy i ride because of your inputs! 10/10

@Vladle2099 Месяц назад

What you gotta remember is that. Not everyone can go slow and have a full lock. It takes lots of practice to do so. Motojitsu way of doing the explaining at slow speed without lean is actually correct for most people who have not mastered going slow and having full control.

@Azantys 19 дней назад

exactly !! unfortunately the comments became about ranting and criticizing Motojitsu. And they rant and rant without adding anything elevant. The guy is at least trying to tech something and it works. Maybe some don't agree about his cowboy US style but this doesn't make him ignorant in motorcycle dynamics or recommendation.

@literal_lee 16 дней назад

@@AzantysIndeed, he has good points. But he's also very wrong about a lot of things, but closes down when he is confronted with his possibly dangerous (or dumb) advices. He won't take any input from experienced riders other than pro-racers. That is what makes him lose the little cred that he is granted by the motorcycle community. It simply doesn't make sense that a guy that has been riding for ten years knows better than everybody else, wouldn't you agree ?

@DBRGB Месяц назад

Intelligently informing the riding community with facts and not “beliefs”. Thank you.

@jeremyvahle5861 Месяц назад

Watching the upright locked turns of both riders showed me who is better. Moto Control knows his gray zone and stayed in it to balance. It was beautiful! MJ wiggling the handlebars to stay balanced in an upright turn was a turn shown incorrectly. A good urban rider needs to be able to do both depending on what’s around them and this channel is my go-to for that!

@Chrisjude100 10 дней назад

I am from Europe and recently did a motorcycle safety course, including low-speed turns. The technique was low forward body lean inside the turn and handlebar movement. I mentioned that I had learnt to do bike-lean and counterbalancing from RU-vid. "Yeah, that's good, too" I was told. "The Americans like to do it that way". Personally, I find I can do it either way, but can do full circles and weaves that are more fun and for longer when the pace is a little higher (the US way). Greg can be a bit pompous in his own way, and his list of "stupids" is over long, but he did make me a better rider (and I am 75 years old!).

@Matt-vo1ge Месяц назад

The CO poisoning would actually explain Motojitsu quite well.

@arniealthoff3156 Месяц назад

The Godfather of parkings lots will love your video!😀

@nostrem82 Месяц назад

great vid 🤘..your channel and videos made me realize training courses can be enjoyable keep up the good work

@wardwagar863 Месяц назад

A detail on lean angle...When you lean the bike the tire surface you ride on is nearer the axle and thus a smaller circle as our tires are rounded, not flat like a cars. Smaller circle, slightly lower on the profile, meaning slightly tightening the turning radius of the bike. I think that we often spend a whole bunch of time debating on a single correct technique when there are many to choose from that may be applicable on different occasions or for different people and their riding style. So much like life, right? Some people use only body weight to lean their bike into corners, some people prefer to "push right turn right". Often in tight parking situations I have no room to lean, so have to be comfortable at that with upright stiff arm steering around. Beats the duck walk but I like to lean, it is just more fun. Ride safe and enjoy everyone.

@MattFellowswasHere Месяц назад

A guy on Reddit asked me to explain exactly WHY I despise Greg Widmar (MotoJitsu), MC Rider & DDFM--Here’s my Response: Of course, the most obvious and primary reason is they are all 100% fear-based. I remember commenting on one of MotoJitsu‘s videos- where he’s clearly showing a Harley Davidson motorcycle, leaning pretty heavily- and then Greg’s narration says he’s “unable to lean”. Dude, come on-you’re not even looking at what’s on your own video? He just deleted the comments and ANY comments he doesn’t like. He’s got another one where he supposedly teaching some woman how to ride and he’s behind her and she scrubs a tiny little bit of speed going into a corner and he was like “that’s very dangerous”… the truth is she was gapping him pretty good on the same section of Palomar Mountain that is in ALL 5000 of his “training videos”… he was butthurt. Of course, he appears to be “fast”-He’s running the same 10 mile section of road every damn day of his life. Kevin at MC Rider and Dan Dan the fireman are even worse. They don’t actually know how to ride motorcycles at all. In fact, they don’t ride motorcycles they ride -land yachts. Kevin is supposedly an MSF instructor so he’s irresponsibly glued to the slow, look, press and roll curriculum-which is an absolute bullshit way of learning turning. Dan shows nothing but accident videos & scares the shit out of people-

@mygi43543 Месяц назад

Dan cant ride for shit either. Look when guys come up with this new revolutionary system, they are generally trying to flog you a course. they've no higher standard for road safety in amerca, at least in europe you have ROSPA

@MattFellowswasHere Месяц назад

@@mygi43543 - I totally understand these guys here in the states think-well there’s no one else doing it so I should say something, collect a bunch of views-monetize everything. But it’s ALL 100% fear-based… don’t… can’t …never …ever…always… it’s all complete horseshit. Every time I hear one of these jackassses say “you can’t grab a bunch of front brake or you’re gonna crash”-- I cleanse myself by watching Sarah Lezito do 12 o’clock stoppies on Instagram-for 20 full minutes…🤣🤣🤣

@Chopbreaka Месяц назад

Motojitsu is a most Excellent rider and instructor !! Just ask him yourself ,he'll tell you all about it 🤭😂..

@Invis_Space Месяц назад

😂😂😂🙈

@MattFellowswasHere Месяц назад

😂😂😂😂

@anindanahiyan8660 20 дней назад

He's a great rider and instructor, but to state your opinions and preferences as absolute facts and blowing the differences out of proportion is intellectually dishonest

@MattFellowswasHere 5 дней назад

@@anindanahiyan8660 - He’s really neither a great rider OR instructor. If you’re gonna be such a huge pussy about ANY critical feedback. Delete any differing comments-even when they are CORRECT…you’re basically unfit to lead--ANYTHING…

@felixschmollgruber9823 Месяц назад

To me, there are two different motivations. 1. MJ wants to do tighter turns 2. MC here wants to be faster I think the tighter turn needs more leaning and to keep the bike from falling over, more leaning needs higher speed (and the other way around) … Either way i truly think that’s all too much advise for beginners and also must say, that your stuff is better than MJ’s as you treat people with more respect.

@dougbach7105 Месяц назад

As I read all these comments I realized something important. We all have our favorites when it comes to trainers. I relate to this guy or gal more than the others, blah blah blah. We motorcyclists need to learn as many riding skills as possible to have fun and stay alive. I have been riding for 40 years now and still don't consider myself fully trained. Training is a continuous and mandatory rule for us riders. I look at it like golden nuggets. Most trainers have golden nuggets of great information to teach us. No one trainer has a monopoly on the subject and should not pretend they do. Ride your ride but keep going to classes to learn as much as we can to be safe and have fun. Who knows you may find a better way to ride and want to share that with us. I hope you do! We should always be in a perpetual state of learning. Be safe out there people.

@mygi43543 26 дней назад

golden nuggets are hard to find if you dont know what your looking for and can easily lead you to fools gold

@stefanbulter7211 Месяц назад

Andrej, you are the best instructor, unfortunately you went to Argentina and not to Germany! I'm relearning after a long time without motorbike, and when I'm thinking about driving technique, sitting on my bike, my inner voice starts talking in English with a strong Russian accent✌️ Greetings from Germany

@frankt2658 Месяц назад

In welcher Ecke bist du zu Hause? Ich fahre in der Hauptstadt durch die Gegend.

@stefanbulter7211 Месяц назад

@@frankt2658 Hallo Frank, in Friesland an der Nordseeküste ✌️

@phildivalerio Месяц назад

It seems to me, you're both right. Leaning allows you (actually requires you) to turn faster. Staying upright requires slower and slightly larger turning radii. Two different styles of riding for two different approaches to turning. Thanks to you both for all the great videos. I learn a lot from you both. Keeps up the good work.

@inevespace Месяц назад

his point is that turning circles are almost identical. You can do both ways, and you will lean if you have space for lean (it is easier). Turning without lean requires good balance and more difficult.

@user-uu1wc6yz5z Месяц назад

My good fellow ... please don't look at it as "" a requirement to go slow BECAUSE we are upright"" ... it literally is the other way around . There is an important reason to thinking in the other direction . We could do a Very large circle very quick in a very upright position at 4X the speed . You rock Moto Control !

@aidencoder Месяц назад

Calm. Logical. Evidence driven. Quality content. Thank you.

@daniw.5481 25 дней назад

you're a gem and such a joy to listen to, thank you and keep rockin! 🤘

@scoobysnaks94 Месяц назад

Thank you for the commentary on slow speed turns @MotoCtrl. Reminder to fellow watcher: there's no need to bash Motojitsu (who I watch just as religiously). All this content is good for the community of riders. Don't drama bait

@langhamp8912 Месяц назад

I kinda watch Motojitsu in order to learn what not to do. For instance, he really likes to go through turns with most of his upper body over the double yellow line. Or the idea of going slightly faster than traffic. Maybe going slightly faster to get traffic behind you, or going slightly slower to keep traffic ahead of you makes more sense.

@CrazyOsi Месяц назад

did you even watch the video scoobysnaks? if not, your comment is incredible ignorant

@darktitan8085 Месяц назад

@@langhamp8912 i find your opinion weird. Hes ridden well. Idk what you want? You have the choice to not follow him ofc. Nor do you need to understand everything he does. You can choose who you want to teach. I find many things on this channel really simple to understand. Some others on motojitsu. Simple as that.

@darktitan8085 Месяц назад

Ikr! Theres one title and suddenly everyone wants to make everything black and white about who is good and who's not.

@langhamp8912 Месяц назад

@@darktitan8085 I also derive enjoyment from watching a person with obvious emotional issues. Dude goes on these very enjoyable 5-minute RU-vid rants and then deletes those videos a day later.

@gaza1952 Месяц назад

The Marine, has been shot down. 😂

@josegautama Месяц назад

You are completely right. In the beginning, I used to struggle with low speed tight corners, being veryy unstable. With practice, I 've learned a lot of things. 1. Slow corners don't have lateral G force enough to make you need to lean. 2. You just look away, to the horizon, to get balance on tight slow corners. If you look down to your front fender, you will loose balance. I've just learned that: inspect the terrain where you are going to do the tight slow turn first and assure it is regular and free from obstacles. The do the turn looking forward far away to the horizon to keep balance, and do the turn. The times I tried to llok down or lean, it was simply mess and panic. Man, you are the best instructor! Best wishes!

@IrishBog Месяц назад

Good point about road conditions. If there’s a lot of gravel you’d want to keep the bike vertical and lean your body over

@nchips9012 Месяц назад

Great clarification 👍

@decaien Месяц назад

HAHAHA Did Motojitsu delete his comment?? That's HILARIOUS!

@mindspinn311 Месяц назад

Typical. What was his comment?

@decaien Месяц назад

@@mindspinn311 MJ's initial comment was a multi-paragraph slog claiming he was misrepresented and justifying his claims within the context of his "belt" system (as if his belts mean F all to real world riders). Then there was a back and forth between MC and MJ in the replies, in which MJ challenged MC to do his belt drills in a video. MC agreed, so long as MJ did the same with MC's drills. I don't know if anything happened after that because the next time I checked in, the whole thread was gone.

@mindspinn311 Месяц назад

@@decaien Haha. Yeah he’s a typical narcissist.

@IN_ZANE_ 22 дня назад

MotoShihtzu deletes every comment that he thinks could make anyone question anything, just look at his comment sections, they're not 100% one sided because he really is so amazing.

@mindspinn311 21 день назад

@@IN_ZANE_ I never look at his videos let alone his comments and I unfollowed his Instagram years ago before he deleted it and came back. Dude is a clown. I know someone who works for Total Control who says he’s a complete tool bag.

@user-tz5oo8ji4b 4 дня назад

Turning full lock very slowly both directions is a part of the maneuvering test to get you license in Sweden. I cannot believe you have relatively few views. You are great a explaining and showing many things from beginner tips to advanced.

@Archangel144 Месяц назад

I occasionally watch MotoJitsu for tips, but he sometimes comes across as kind of toxic and narrow-minded. That never happens here, and I appreciate it.

@Brad900 Месяц назад

I couldn’t agree more. MJ continually disappoints with his attitude and mind frame. I continually come to this channel for education and inspiration- awesome work!

@PMitchell106 Месяц назад

Your comment convinced me to subscribe to this channel. I had to unsubscribe from MotoJitsu because his immaturity, fragile ego, and desperate self-promotion were detracting from the content.

@mindspinn311 Месяц назад

You’re spot on. People know know MJ, aka Greg, know him to be abrasive and narcissistic.

@IrishBog Месяц назад

But when he draws illustrations those are pretty impressive - :)

@bubonocele1 Месяц назад

@@IrishBog😂

@simplex5155 Месяц назад

I unsubscribed MotoShitsu so long ago. He's full ot it 😊

@amoore2165 Месяц назад

Same. I started ignoring his videos after seeing nonsense from him.

@ErickNagy Месяц назад

Same here! He isn't humble, he loves to argue on how he is right or how something is working for him for so long (until it doesn't work anymore!)...

@Requiem4u Месяц назад

Same here. Also Yammie Noob. That guy's arrogance rubs me the wrong way and he's not as good as he thinks he is.

@simplex5155 Месяц назад

@@Requiem4u Agreed. Thanks for confirming the bad vibes I had from him.

@robertstylianoudakis1797 Месяц назад

Excellent video. You consistently put out great content. Keep it up and looking forward to the wheelie video!

@supriyode8716 Месяц назад

Best Moto Instructor on the internet. Right to the point. You taught me all these exercises Sir, and there has been a great improvement in my slow speed techniques.🎉

@robertbratoz2897 Месяц назад

Vaši komentarji so odlični, kar tako naprej, 👍🏍️

@jridenour31 Месяц назад

"Even Motojitsu gets this wrong..." Stop being nice. Motojitsu has never made a video where he wasn't either flat out wrong or presenting common knowledge as some revolutionary idea that he came up with. If anybody calls out his bs, he cries and turns off the comments.

@mygi43543 Месяц назад

presenting common knowledge in complicated manner to make himself seem smarter than you and calling you dumb. Or rehashing something that was said by someone else or read from a book by lee parks

@literal_lee Месяц назад

@@mygi43543MJ has personality issues. Sometimes I really feel bad bashing the guy. But then again, he doesn't stop pushing his BS and scoffing either...

@JeffJeno1000 Месяц назад

Good to see I’m not the only one who thinks this way. He shits me. Well put guys 👍

@mygi43543 Месяц назад

@@JeffJeno1000 yeah. His comments would make you feel like an alien and alone but your not.

@AdrianM1k Месяц назад

i tried motojitsu advice and find that is hard to get it right example dragging the rear brake. Moto Control and RoadcraftNottingham methods are much more easier to understand and get it right. Now my slow speed u turns also improve alot thx to moto control and roadcraft

@mygi43543 Месяц назад

both are beter for the road too

@mladenmilanovic3149 Месяц назад

Andrei, thank you very much for this video. Best regards.

@sig7983 Месяц назад

I listen to Moto control, not motojitsu 👍

@mario.chichmanov Месяц назад

I think the reason your ktm turned so tightly even without leaning it, is because it's such a small bike (with the wheels being quite close to each otjer compared to other bigger bikes)

@fredflintstone4087 Месяц назад

You shouldn’t lean without purpose. For practice, for specific line requirements etc. Definitely not for the purpose MJ dictates as if there is something wrong with deciding to stay up-rite. It all depends on many variables and we have to be like water when we ride.

@joaosalta Месяц назад

8:07 😂😂😂😂😂😂 A instructor that tells you it's not wrong to ride slow and you should not be worry about your speed, is like a dad!❤ Very good videos, never disappointed

@paradoxworkshop4659 Месяц назад

Agreed, motojitsu's answer to slow speed turns is speeding up! I guess his answer to slowing down for a yellow light at an intersection is just to speed through, and hope you miss the cars if the light turns before you get there. I'm pretty certain motijitsu has never seen a trials rider.

@literal_lee Месяц назад

Motojitsu only rides roads that he knows like the back of his hands and that are clear of other vehicles.

@paradoxworkshop4659 Месяц назад

@@literal_lee he DOES have some good advice most of the time, but once in a while, he seems like he host wants to pick fights with people who know better. At least he doesn't do maxwrist/gixxerbrah and said s#@t.

@literal_lee Месяц назад

@@paradoxworkshop4659 It's the other way round; Sometimes he has some good advice. But claiming that we should all aim to be at the level of professional racers e.g. is not one of them.... And oh yeah... he still doesn't get 'trailbraking' right... 😁

@paradoxworkshop4659 Месяц назад

@@literal_lee I guess I could watch more of his vids, but I think I'll limit myself to the algorithm, which keeps him in the "bored enough to click" column.

@literal_lee Месяц назад

@@paradoxworkshop4659 Lol 😂

@PetroHead Месяц назад

I've known MotoJitsu ever since he had 50K subs (in real life).. the guy is a big talker, is SUPER arrogant and makes stuff up as he goes along. Take what the says with a grain of salt. Moto Control is the real deal.

@mygi43543 Месяц назад

I wonder why he doesn't have many friends

@literal_lee Месяц назад

Would you say he's a narcissist ?

@PetroHead Месяц назад

@@literal_lee 100% ego trip type. I AM RIGHT.. YOU'RE WRONG.. AHHHHHH! lol

@danielbarlow6220 День назад

A bike will go round in a circle if you steer it using the bars (generates a slip force) or by leaning the tyres over (generates camber force), or usually some combination of both. The turning force generated is related to your speed and radius (actually v^r) and if the bike isn't going to topple it needs to be balanced by shifting the centre of gravity towards the inside of the turn (i.e. leaning). So the CoG lean angle you need to balance the bike might be more (at high speed) or less (at low speed) than the tyre lean angle that gives the turn radius you want: you can deal with this by changing your speed, or by moving your body relative to the bike to change the CoG without changing the tyre angle (hanging off at high speed/counterleaning at low speed), or by turning the bars.

@muhammedfatihsezer8425 Месяц назад

You are more logical than him at this point in real life.

@FruitisLife75 Месяц назад

I will add that Motojitsu wasn't using rear brake when he was turning and in your demonstration you were. That does make a difference, at least when I practice. I've also seen videos of riders moving their bikes upright in a circle and then doing the same thing with the bike leaned and the radius does reduce.

@46rrodriguez Месяц назад

exactly . Using the rear brake is important for keeping it slow and balanced

@borderlands6606 Месяц назад

When I was trained many years ago by police instructors, the back brake was heavily emphasised for control. I still use the back brake for all slow speed manoeuvres, as living in an area with lots of hills, hairpin bends and gravel, the front wheel would regularly wash out. Surprisingly, some riders claim to only use front brake in all situations.

@46rrodriguez Месяц назад

@@borderlands6606 i presume they are on the sport bikes . Every motorbike is different if they are confident to use front brake then why not

@MrBCRC Месяц назад

@@46rrodriguezExperience does let you brake the rules a bit ;-)

@FruitisLife75 Месяц назад

@@46rrodriguez I think you may have jumped to conclusions from my comment. I never mentioned that it wasn't important to use rear brake just noting that the demonstration used rear brake where as Motojitsu's drill didn't.

@aminnairidev Месяц назад

Funny I was commenting on his video minutes ago because I felt it was not quite right. As others said in the comment section, his riding style for slow speed is to ride faster, which might be relevant in the US because of the larger road sections but as you perfectly described, in other parts of the world riding slow means lane filtering in heavy or almost stopped traffic, parking lot with lots of people, events, etc... I love the way you teach slow speed manoeuvring and I feel like we should get more of these as it is the hardest part about riding a motorcycles, especially for the heavy one which is how to slow ride without falling!

@inevespace Месяц назад

his videos are for people who literally first day on the bike. I understand that he wants to say that it is easier for a noob to fit into a circle when you lean. Everybody knows it. But he shows it as some kind of useful advice and simultaneously bring misconceptions (he is quite bad with explanations). Like 80% of his video is about to be smooth, while every instructor tell you this in first 10 minutes.

@Tiaan90 Месяц назад

Well, your channel name speaks for itself, your balance and control is crazy! 😄 Also, this video proves why Sweden's "lågfartsbana" exists äas a part of the final driving exam. Everyone who wants to drive a motorcycle here have to be able to control the bike upright through a rather tight slalom with stops.

@capberganza Месяц назад

Your videos are always very well explained, I've come to learn a lot, thanks!!

@Ionelsa Месяц назад

Motojitsu does not know what he is talking about about 75% of the time I started watching his videos a while ago but stopped because most of his content is boring and uneducated and most of the time wrong. Thank you for pointing his bull shiet out 👍

@laszlokekkoi6020 Месяц назад

I still remember your video about how the front wheel balances the motorbike in turn on slow speeds. It helped me a lot to understand how slowing down tights the turns till full-lock position of handlebars. Without any additional handlebar pressure you can control the turn radius with just the speed. It was a game changer for me. It helped a lot in the license exam.

@MotoControlEn Месяц назад

Thanks! I'm glad I could help😊

@carlostomas3698 Месяц назад

But…to “auto” full lock isn’t necessary some lean angle (even a slightest one at a very slow speed)?

@laszlokekkoi6020 Месяц назад

@@carlostomas3698 When you start the turn you have to do a very little countersteering to lean the bike to the direction where you want to do circles, but after that you don't need any additional handlebar control to do endless circles. It was fun to check how the bike behaves when you play with the speed.

@carlostomas3698 Месяц назад

@@laszlokekkoi6020I’m not talking about counter-steering I’m talking about the self-steering effect when leaning the bike. And, by the way, with more speed, more force must be applied to the handlebars to initiate the lean. And yes, if we continue to apply force, more lean angle will be “produced”.

@laszlokekkoi6020 Месяц назад

@@carlostomas3698 Yes, I agree. Sorry my english is not the best so maybe I misunderstood you. I only discuss "very low-speed"! maneuvers. At those speeds if you lower the speed the handlebar turns itself and at certain point it locks, meanwhile there is more and more leaning as you say, but without any handlebar push. Holding that locked position with just the speed is kinda scary for me, but fun... I think that is the tightest turn radius which you can achieve, but i'm not expert in the topic. :) Understanding this helped me a lot, because finally i started to trust my bike.☺

@istvanhideg5416 Месяц назад

Dude, I always enjoy watching your videos and learn a lot from them. Thanks.

@vijayam1 Месяц назад

Brilliant. Both yours and Jitsu have their valid points. In short, both yours and his video by default explanation is perfectly right..

@Szlejer Месяц назад

Beware, motojitsu has huge ego and can't take any criticism. Been there, done that. He even turns off comments under his videos when he really gets butthurt. :D

@jasperdegrood Месяц назад

You are spot on. Great commentary. All cheers to Monojijtsu.

@orange42 Месяц назад

Ah thank you. I had got half way through his video and gave up as I didn't think it made sense.

@andrewschultz2504 Месяц назад

I agree and tried telling moto jitsu exactly what you said. He really got mad at me lol. Possibly motojisu doesn’t have good control at low speed and he needs the comfort of speed to be in his comfort

@ilkerylmaz5662 Месяц назад

I think he intentionally wiggle front wheel to simulate the inexperienced "white belts" like me because I really do this in slow speed. But you are right, amerikansky didnt respect people.

@mattburkett9419 Месяц назад

I think that’s part of the point, motojitsus methods are often a crutch for a lack of skill, which is fine when you’re a beginner and still need to maneuver at your skill level, but you should still strive for the absolute madlad level of skill and control shown in this video.

@FGGiskard Месяц назад

@@mattburkett9419 what? It requires way more skill to lean the bike at slower speeds than just turn upright

@mattburkett9419 Месяц назад

@@FGGiskard no it doesn’t, jitsu is allowing the bike to do all the work when he leans, that’s how gravity and centrifugal force interact. It takes a lot of practice and to stay upright, steady, and maneuver at very low speeds. This is because it is now the rider that is the balancing force, and not gravity and momentum.

@FGGiskard Месяц назад

@@mattburkett9419 to be completely clear. Riding upright and slow is what noobs do, yes they use their feet more than usual but it’s the way to do things when you start driving a motorbike (also how my kids drive their balance bikes 😂) either you do not remember the time when you were a noob and have never seen one in a while. Controlling speed and lean to turn tighter is extremely counterintuitive and difficult to get to

@loupa5 Месяц назад

@@mattburkett9419 and finesse of the clutch and rear brake.. Totally agree!

@lmj5994 11 дней назад

Sooooo I actually practice this technique (with a large heavy bike) and I agree with MotoJitsu on this occasion. Three factors appear to determine turning circle. The three factors are speed, lean angle and the amount the handle bars are turned. There is a sweet spot where all three work together to create the tightest turning circle. Slower and the motorbike is more upright and turn less. Faster and the motorbike turns wider, but it is more stable. It takes some skill to hit the sweet spot on a big bike. I find that in my case the challenge is that just off full lock you can still steer into the turn to balance the bike. At full lock it is not possible to steer into the turn and consequently the only way to balance the bike is with the clutch, which is not sufficiently sensitive for fine control, and the brake, which as this time requires coordination I don't have. So I can turn with the bike touching down but at slightly above what I consider to be the absolute minimum speed and hence turning circle. If you are unsure about this I suggest you look at Japanese police motorcycle gymkhana practice, you can find videos in which the bikes are turned very tightly indeed, using more speed and much greater lean angle than is demonstrated here by Moto Control. And in the wet too.

@overlander123 Месяц назад

Excellent video, many thanks.

@nulla9601 Месяц назад

Motojitsu not doing the slow turning straight up right could be because he doesn't have the skills for it but for his caliber I believe that isn't the case and he was just faking it (or at least exaggerating a lot) which is pretty disingenuous when you're trying to "prove" something.

@MotoControlEn Месяц назад

If you follow the other guy's videos (or even if you watch this very video closely), you will see all sorts of bikes. Plus, "The Bike Doesn't Matter", isn't it?😉

@raimondaspetrenas8515 Месяц назад

Fully agree... When I watched Motojitsu, could not understand, what non-sense he is showing. In Switzerland at exams 3-4 km/h speed is a must for figure 8, slalom etc. in a small space. Motojitsu would not pass exam with his 'lean angle and speed'. In US the worst bikers, you just look how they start driving and stopping: like ducks... They would all die if come to Switzerland to drive in the mountains after their so called 'twisties' :)

@yuri.cherkasov Месяц назад

exactly, in Russia we have an exam exercise figure 8 as well with a lots of high cones so you just cannot lean as much as you want without touching the cones so you should not lean but instead go slow and keep the bike upright

@gattling9 Месяц назад

I'm considering myself as a jitsu's fanboy who had to go through figure 8 to get his license, and I'm pretty sure it would be a piece of cake for him. Oh and European roads are narrow f¥¢£°#& sidewalks with 💩load of dirt in every corner and cagers going up, down, left, right, underneath and above'em. Good luck leaning your bike fast into them. 🤣

@dolphinride5157 Месяц назад

I understand and agree with you! Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with us.

@Beastius24 16 дней назад

Good points. If I analyse what Motojitsu said and add the why ,it will make sense. The constraint is the space. If you need to turn really sharp, you do have to lean the bike. That cannot be done at 3mi/hr as the gyroscopic force is insufficient to balance the bike, thus you need to add speed. When you keep upright your turning circle will be greater than the same exercise on full lock without leaning.

@steveoverstreet5635 Месяц назад

Thanks for this! Is it really necessary to learn to do “full lock” turning?”

@anonymous-rj6ok Месяц назад

This is just my opinion so take it as you will. In my opinion there are very few real life situations where you need that skill. The only situation I can think of is doin a U-turn on a small road but even that can be achieved in phases without full lock. Of course it's always good to have these skills rather than not have them.

@MotoControlEn Месяц назад

It's not strictly necessary for normal riding, but it's a very good practice for balance. When your handlebars go to full lock, you lose the self-stabilizing effect from the front wheel (since it can't turn left or right anymore), and you are forced to keep your balance with your body, throttle, clutch and rear brake. And as a bonus, you get a smaller turning radius, which is handy when you don't have a lot of space to maneuver.

@langhamp8912 Месяц назад

Yes if you have a Yamaha XSR900. I knew it had bad steering lock before buying it but I had no idea just how bad. I've never had to do 3-point u-turns on wide country roads before.

@lynncurtner3486 Месяц назад

@@MotoControlEn exactly.

@demisx Месяц назад

I’ve met MotoJitsu in person. Good rider, but very arrogant and rude. Try to criticize anything he does or suggest anything… Unsubscribed from his channel a while back. I get everything I need here.

@mygi43543 26 дней назад

good rider....lol he's mediocre but acts like a god.

@atmosk9991 25 дней назад

Yeah, he actually gives out that vibe in his videos

@__Max-oe6zm 22 дня назад

MotoShihtzu constantly deletes any comment that suggest he's not MotoJesus, it's why every comment section on every video is just like those websites that only have 5 star reviews. It's all fake.

@mygi43543 22 дня назад

@@__Max-oe6zm trrrue

@aroshliyanage4578 14 дней назад

@@__Max-oe6zm "MotoJesus" lmao 😂😂😂

@loupa5 Месяц назад

You presented the facts respectfully in my opinion. One of the reasons I stopped watching MJ was because his content seemed one sided all the time. His way of teaching fashions a cult-like methodology. It's either his way or you're and idiot. Glad to see a master motorcyclist point out the obvious. Thank you for creating a channel with un-bias motorcycle learning content.