12-string BASS sounds MASSIVE 

Totally dude that 12 string is KICKASS

hi Charles, do you play the Chapman stick ?

Absolutely phenomenal bass solo!

Great playing, great sounding instrument I would like to hear you do a song that is laid back trippy funk with a little bit of effects on the bass, slight lo-fi neo-soul hip hop a full song between 2.5-3 minutes maybe with some background vocals Something with no virtuoso stuff. That's the challenge. I think you could do it, write something with a groove so good it wouldn't need any virtuoso playing. To make it work maybe collaborate with producer, something with a great drum track on it and other supporting elements You underestimate your composing abilities. Also like your country playing I think you could have hit songs if you would collaborate with some vocalists and write the songs, maybe EP length mainly one style at a time, say 5--6 songs. If you prefer the technical direction I think the solo thing is good but it is limited Jaco had some of his best moments with Weather Report and Pat Metheny Playing with other great musicians elevates you . I would like to hear you collaborate with a drummer like Thomas Lang or the youtube drummer El Estepario Siberiano

Displate looks awesome, but they don't deliver to Russia, or to anywhere except the U.S., really :\

damn mcnasty what a welcome suprise, and yeah there would be no other match

Um excuse what are you doing here

HOW’D YOU GET HERE?

In fairly certain Jeremy was recorded with a 12 stringer

​​@@DARKNESS-ko8tl it was. A Dean Rhapsody 12 string to be exact

The lord of the low end

Agreed. 🙂

Jesus the good healer loves you my friends

Why doesn't this comment AMAZE me?

Deep funk

True

Very true!

Word!

Fr

The best music and musicians have never been heard until now and the future..things have and are changing.

What about davies 50+ string bass

@@dragox1135 Doesn't sound actually good.

Maybe add Bob Culbertson and his Chapman stick to the group too.

I guess the guy from those one handed drumming videos would have to be in

That's great to hear!

That’s only a Bass-ic amount of strings.

Egg

@@eggsaladsamich7396 salad

I completely agree with you

Tom Petersson used one in Cheap Trick.

Dug Pinnick of King's X plays one so often Schecter made him a signature 12 string bass.

@@ExtraDog I believe that is the actual model Charles is playing in this video. :)

What I always think of with 12 stringed bass

No one plays like Charles, lol.

Lol. Everybody get a load of this backhanded compliment shit!!

@@alexraye5860 hauhrgh?

@@alexraye5860 I love your confidence in being completely wrong. (THAT was a backhanded compliment) (I still love you though)

dUg also runs two channels simultaneously-a cleaner tone for lower frequencies and a heavily distorted tone for higher frequencies: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VbIZaWghUDE.html

Haha and maybe a couple of octave pedals while you're at it 🤣

@@CharlesBerthoud So? What are you waiting for?? DO IT! I'm still waiting for you to put your spin on some of Mark King's work. Please? A simple request from an old man...

@@CharlesBerthoud Sure lmao

Pretty sure that is exactly what Jeff Ament did with his bassline for Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".

@@itsjustme8947 lol

He has played the fretless bass! Search "CharlesBerthoud fretless bass" on youtube and you’ll find a couple amazing performances!

@@Ethan-yi8dk Thanks that was great.

Talent + 10000000000000000000 hours of practice

I'm on here trying to find the hour long video I watched yesterday but I guess I'm not familiar enough with RU-vid. I finally found something worth watching and that's Chris B. on bass. Where can I find all his videos in one place? Help me out please.

Te gusta la guitarra 🎸?ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-acAYkUaInhY.html

@Moods Music Do you actually have proof

@@ahzhd423 That is how most people do it.

@@stonehillproductions129 Is that proof

@Moods Music so you admit you don't have proof

as a man with a Danish name, i wonder why it matters that you play guitar?

As a man who loves to read comments, I absolutely have nothing to do with this comment section.

as a man who studies computer science, i can tell you it secretly is very relevant

You didn't know goosebumps existed? And if you think they sound crazy wait til you feel em!

If you haven't already.. Check out harp guitars

Check out Cheap Trick, Tom Petersson plays a 12 string on almost every song.

@@mrsleep0000 Cheap Trick is awesome. Also the first 12 sting bass was built in ‘77 for him by Hamer Guitars.

@@justinkennedy3004 "Goose bumps. *I knew these existed.* " *"I. knew. these. existed."* 🤔 I totally get how you could think that them saying they knew they existed means they didn't know they existed.

That's basically what it is.

They combined a twin neck into one neck. SOOO 😎

Thank you!!! Truly amazing those guys. Hope this somehow gets them more exposure

I just noticed that as well. I've been testifying about King's X for years.

@@frankiiemermaid1127 Ive been playing Bass for over 30 years and have not heard of them till now......I am going to their site right this second!!! Whether I but something or not, there's your wish for some exposure......🤙

Jesus adores you all :" )

I saw them live in a small club in Richmond VA, they were so awesome! I was a big fan before that, and so was everyone else, everybody in the bar knew all the words. It was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a few. Not to mention I have all of Kings X CD’s! There’s like 24 of them. I got them all at once used on eBay, so much great music.

Yeah it's pretty tough, especially tapping 😬

@@CharlesBerthoud dude how hard is it to tune that thing??!!

@@buncharandomness7693 It takes a while but it's not terrible, probably coz Schecter is a great brand. If a cheap 12-string bass existed, it would probably be a nightmare to keep in tune!

Truth be told, nothing is out of reach, if you put in the time practice and patience.

@@CharlesBerthoud i can imagine

Yes, please!

Yeah especially this one it’s so good I need it in my playlist

I would really pay for it

Cheap Trick's bassist has been playing one since the 80s I believe. Although not quite as artfully as this demo.

Cheap Trick, also 8 string on practically any Life Sex & Death song. Legend has it Geezer used 8 string, but I couldn't point you to a track.

Pearl Jam use one at the start of Jeremy

King's X bass player used a 12-string bass a lot in their older albums. Check songs: 'I Pretend', 'Out of the Silent Planet, 'Black the Sky' etc. That bass is signature bass of Dug Pinnick from King's X.

Oh yes. My Hamer 12 string laughs at me when I finally get it in tune. 😂

You need a 12 string ever tune bridge 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

Yeah I'd like to see the neck or the tuning the keys the mechanism

Hire a bass tech and then ask them every two minutes if it’s ready yet.

It does. Thanks to Jack White and his immense use of octaves and fuzz. No but seriously I sgree

Listen to pulling teeth (Anesthesia) for fuzz

Cheap Trick's bass player Tom Petersen's been using a 12-string bass since the 70s and it's the nature of the instrument have that sound intone pre effect wise

more strings vibrating = more fuzz

Музыка классная!

На самом деле ни в одной группе такой бас не нужен

@@evgenidementjev2324 Билли Шихан улыбнулся. Да и много других.

@@MrGoshka1 Этот чел как раз предпочитает играть сольно, а не в группе и на нормальном 4-хструнном басу.

@@evgenidementjev2324 Мы о чём говорим? Если вы под "басом" имели в виду не "линию баса", а конкретно инструмент, то он и в группе нормально звучать будет. Было бы желание. Если про Билли Шихана речь вести, и где и как он играет, то он играл и в Talas, и сейчас играет в Mr. Big, в группе Стива Вая и ещё в нескольких группах. Не только сольно. Пусть и на 4-струнном басу, я в курсе, что он на других не играет.

I wish I could go back to that moment where I discovered Charles the Master. You’re in for a treat my friend. This guy is a PRO ! 😉

Welcome to the fold, brother

I first saw him on Davie 504 during a bass battle. When Charles got done, Davie said something like " okay so that's it for the video"

Neither did I until I saw this one 🤣

@@CharlesBerthoud what are they tuned to?

@@CharlesBerthoud you should give King's X a listen. That's Dugs signature bass and they are amazing.

@@mykeday EeeAaaDdeGgg if he left it standard

Tom Petersson of CHEAP TRICK invented this, in the late 1970s! 8 wasn't enough!

Vai's Hydra video was quite a performance, but I enjoyed this A LOT more! That, and I'm a long-time guitarist.

Well, I am not a long-time guitarist, but a long-time music lover (little over 52 years experience...😉). Both performances are incredible in their own right. I don't see one as "better" than the other, just different. This piece has an awesome vibe - Extremely enjoyable!

Let's have them join forces!

Doug has seen it and posted it to his Facebook page!

@@MattKrogmeier it's cool when artists DIG other artists taking their own stuff to new levels and directions !

Ah, now I get the 12th fret marker. I guess in a trio the octave strings would come in mighty handy.

@@rickc2102 If you’ve never heard King’s X play as a band, I recommend these few album titles to give you and idea of their musicality and excellence from the mid-late 1990s. The albums are rock meets Beatles Out Of The a silent Planet, Gretchen Goes To Nebraska & Faith, Hope, Love. Much heavier rock album is Dogman. It continues from here, but I’d suggest just the live performance albums/DVDs. This is what three people can do who all write and sing amazingly separate and together.

@@NealVan i had Out of the Silent Planet as a kid, they and Soundgarden were my drop D refuge

I'm 58, and even I'm thinking of putting posters of him on my wall and learning bass.

*displates

One thing is that davie has played a bunch of different basses, like the 36 string, 24 string and all those other ones, but it’s more as a joke.

i know its just a persona, but i like Charles for just being himself... i dont care for Davie's persona at all... i know hes one of the top bassists... but imo you dont have to act all aloof like that

@@narmale true shit.

@@azxtnt and now 69

@SLR F He's playing a character, lighten up. He has a couple videos where he dropped the Davie504 persona.

Reminds me of Spinal Tap/ Nigel Tufnell ,when he's showing his collection of guitars and amps - "This guitar can NOT be played".

Not to be all "well actually" on ya, but that was almost certainly a Hamer (which made 12 strings for Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, who came up with the idea). Kramer, on the other hand, made plenty of 8-string basses in the 70s and early 80s; I've owned a couple and still have one that I'll never sell. But no 12s, I'm sure of that. Here's more info if you're interested: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-string_bass

@@KevinMillard "not to do this douchey thing I'm about to do..."

@@KevinMillard I had a baby blue Kramer 8-string with an aluminum neck back in the early 90's. I was able to use it for a few years in the studio and on stage. I wish I didn't have to sell it for food, along with my Juno-60. :( Jeremy sounded pretty good on it.

@@slavojdyrdek He corrected a minor factual inaccuracy and provided a link to the information he cited. Douchey? I wish more people on the Internet had manners like that.

Bass being hard to hear isn’t really an issue bc it’s to feel majority of the time. It has it’s own role in the mix that is not really to be heard like guitars

@@abstracyellow1766 I thoroughly disagree with that. I don’t think bass is only meant to support the guitar, just compliments it.

i can never hear the bass in pretty much every song and i too would love more enunciation like the 12 string provides!

The problem isn't the bass, it's the fact that it's mixed so low that you could remove the bass track and most people wouldn't even notice

@@lred1383 it's also a speaker quality thing. listening on your phone? no bass at all. in a car? more bass. in a room with a legit sub? yes.

There are billions of ad blockers.

Don’t help him. 😂

​@@imharbingerI mean, the one that's included in the later part of the video

They are playing the UK here in September, can't wait to see them again. First saw and met them on '90 in their first tour of the UK. And man, I cannot wait to hear that 12 string blasting out In The New Age again!!!

Dug is awesome. I saw him with King's X way back in the early 90s and got to meet the whole band. And Dug was just the same, really nice and accommodating. He's still one of my favorite rock singers, and he still sounds as good as ever.. I found out that King's X is actually coming to my town this fall, and I'm planning to go see them for the first time since 1996!

love kings x. I want to get a 12 sting bass so much

His instrument is as long as an upright, but his fingers are like a foot long. Probably makes it easier to play a beast like that.

First thing I noticed!!! Such a great band.

@@tonymason6686 yes, one of my absolute top

I agree! King's X was the first concert I ever went to, and dUg was the first guy I thought of when I saw the episode name

@@shaunkhan9049 I love Kings X... Very underrated band !!!!

His music is on Spotify.

@@firstnamelastname7267 Nice, thanks for the tip 👍 (following him now)

he also has a Fiverr account that you can request him to make or play you near enough anything on bass

@@RustyRichGamingGamblingandMORE Hmm, interesting thought 😉👍

@@firstnamelastname7267 couldn’t find this track on Spotify, named different?

Looks like this bass is a Pinnick signature model as his name is actually "Dug" as in the 12th fret

@@miles99 he goes by "dUg", I was enjoying the fretwork too much and missed the fret signature the first time.

You are correct sir...I saw "Doug" Pinnick for the first time in 1995, and have seen him at least 13 times since then. He made me sell my soul to get a Pedulla MVP 8 string fretless bass...best move EVER!

Tom Petersen from Cheap Trick plays one in concert now and again.

Posh dude like him probably had very expensive lessons paid for by mummy and daddy when he was little.

@@TheBanana93 Why does that matter? You could literally learn to play like this completely on your own with enough dedication.

@@TheBanana93 so now we’re just going to shit on people for being talented for no reason? If he were raised by squids in an old mustard barrel would that satisfy you?

It has been stuck in my head for months. Trying to figure out what sound this is from. I swear it is like a Justin Bieber song or something!!

is*

​@@Zion6969 I love Doug's playing. Have you listened to all his solo projects?

@@TimJackson-eq6iy I’ve listened to a few of his solo albums but nothing hits as hard as KX, KXM is pretty good but nothing beats Ty and Jerry.

Bassthoven

More like Mozart

Thx

1:07 Sounds pretty neat and mesmerizing

Yes that part is insane. Especially that part at 1:30 which… I have no idea what that technique is even called or how he made that sound

When you reach this level, you can break the space time continuum and slap strings anywhere at anytime.

​@@mandu9520 I think you mean the sbass time continuum.

Idk how he does it on 12 string. But popping a double stop can be done by using both index and middle finger.

The tonality? 🙄🤦‍♂️ Are you trying to say tone?

Look up King’s X for just about the only 12 string bass usage out there.

@@spanqueluv9er noun: tonality 1. the character of a piece of music as determined by the key in which it is played or the relations between the notes of a scale or key.

@@spanqueluv9er That didn't age well did it? Made yourself look like a pretentious cunt! 🤣

​@@Iradicos "tonality: the character of a piece of music as determined by the key in which it is played or the relations between the notes of a scale or key" 1. First of all, a bass isn't a piece of music, so that doesn't make any sense 2. The 12-string bass' sound doesn't have anything to do with scales or keys Did you even read the definition you posted? Just admit you made a mistake man nobody would have judged you

There are even 24 bases, it's kinda insane

Please check out Kings X. Doug Pinnick plays a 12 string bass in all their stuff and it's definitely a big part of their unique sound.

I was curious if anyone would even mention Dug Pinnick in the comments.

@@jars3n125 Same

I was wondering if there was a connection to him.

I remember when I switched from a 4 string to 6 string bass and it was really odd moving to a neck which was considerably wider. Playing a 12 string guitar after playing a 6 string guitar was barely anything in comparison, a little weird at first due to multiple strings not feeling quite right at first. Combining those experiences I would hazard to guess that once you get used to the width of the neck, it is not a huge issue. But that is just a bit of a guess from combining 2 different experiences, so take this as you will. Hell, I bet tuning that thing is 10x harder than playing it :P

I think it would go AMAZINGLY with a 12-string guitar too

been a Kings X fan since 86!!! Doug - now Dug - is extremely underrated!!! Has always had a unique sound, and is an extremely nice guy!!!..Charles is killing on the 12 string pops....holy hell man

Missing the massive Tech21 Dug distortion though. King's X brought to life amazing three-piece sonics. Such an underated band

Tom Petersen of Cheap Trick has been using one for decades.

I had the same question

@@putnutskitchen9342 Saw them in concert decades ago, and I love their stuff, but never realized he had a 12 string bass.

@Satanic Panic Fun and Games So one and two octaves higher than main E, A, D, G strings?

and double thumb... he never fails to amaze us !

Слава Украине!

I agree, that sounds insanity

Are you Russian? How is McDonald's doing ?:)

@@molostone8946 It will simply rename

Это слэп.

@@molostone8946 Sold business for rebranding.

This is a "dUg" Pinnick signature bass. He's the singer and bass player for the band King's X. Every member of that 3 man band is very talented, so I'm assuming he too can play this bass well.

Check out Victor Wooten

Straight up as a fellow guitarist I totally agree!

@@Rmehki you say that, charles has covered wooten and did it as well if not better

@@Rmehki And Tony Levin.

Yes! This guy makes Les Claypool look like a schoolboy, I love Primus btw.

defo should of opened with Jeremy

@Prokurator Generalny Dziura w Dupie in this case, it just might:)

По сути - механика рояля, но в игре на басе вариантов атаки струн гораздо больше - слэп, перебор, таппинг, щипок и пр. А у рояля только сила удара молоточков.

It really isn't once you get used to it. Source: own one

Yeah he's got a few I come back to and it instantly puts me in a better mood...