Yeah, not sure what the Dr told that officer but the reassurances the officer gave the mother felt really out of place. Seemed way to early for him to be telling her he would be ok. Maybe it's just because we know how it turns out, but it feels like him telling her that made it a lot worse in the end
@@rjdaire38 To me it wasn't so much saying hes fine as much as he was saying "all good things so far" but remember it means something else to them. Its all good RIGHT NOW meaning they maybe stabilised him or stopped some of the bleeding but doesn't mean hes safe. To us it means "oh hes alright they saved him" to them it means "well we stopped one thing so thats good but we still gotta stop like 5 other things". Plus as horrible as it is to think you gotta remember he needs the mum to be calm and stable so he can ask questions and keep her emotionally in check. If he straight up told her "hay we aren't sure you may or may not loose your son tonight" its gonna get them nowhere. All I can say is he could have worded it better or just said "as of now he is stable but I will leave it to the doctor to tell you for sure". But again its a difficult one because no matter what you say in a situation like this you lean to him not making it the parent flips out, you lean toward him making it and the parent assumes the child is saved. there is no middle ground to them when your emotions are so unstable. Truly its one of the saddest calls to make when it comes to anything involving children and I am so glad its not me in that scenario.
Dang man...I didn't realize the boy doesn't make it, and I just passed the part where the officer says it's all good at the moment so I assumed everything would be ok...then I read this comment lol. That sucks man. Geez.
The Mom unfortunately lost both her children that night and I can't fathom the depth of her mental being, saying goodbye to her son and then facing her daughter who murdered him.
Sadly she was an addict herself that was with a literally nazi and other scum or years. The whole family is fucked. Poor little boy had one shit family. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uxYpEH8oZ5k.html If ur interested it goes way more in depth about the mum and life they lived.
It’s heartbreaking seeing the mother breathe a sigh of relief thinking her son was going to make it and then finding out he passed away. I’m a single father of two and I can’t imagine how she is feeling.
Being a parent definitely changed how I view these videos. Especially when you consider this mother is essentially losing two kids at one time.. I couldnt even.. there is no way I could cope with something like that. Like what parent could? I feel like anyone who goes through something like this would be broken from then on.
I raised my two sons as a single father and the thought of losing one is beyond a nightmare. When my youngest boy was about 15 he and a few others were in the back of a pick-up truck. If you have ever seen those long skinny whip CB antennas you will understand but one of those whipped forward and stabbed him in the back plus entering his chest cavity where the lungs reside. Luckily his lung wasnt punctured but it was scary as hell for a while there
I can't imagine the pain and fear of getting stabbed in the chest now and dying slowly in that state, let alone when I was 9 years old and infinitely more attached to life and hopeful for the future and innocent. I feel terrible for everyone involved in that catastrophe, but the son most of all.
@@ttm1093 I have sympathy. She obviously has SEVERE mental health problems, especially with the self-harm and intrusive thoughts as seen, she's likely felt that way for a while, and has not reached out like she should've to be checked into inpatient psychiatric care. Obviously she wouldn't do this if she wasn't sick in the head.
I am a former child therapist - part of the reason I say "former" is because I was disturbed by how heavily medicated children in the mental health system are. These drugs can have horrific effects on a developing brain. The kids often know and beg to be taken off their medication because they can't stand how it makes them feel or think. And so many of these drugs include warnings about homicidal or suicidal ideation or behavior as a side effect. I would only medicate a child as an absolute last resort.
i was prescribed focalin when i was 5 until i basically took myself off of it in 2018 and that shit was god awful. i was diagnosed with severe depression and that shit just made me worse and worse to where i was getting suicidal thoughts (tho part of that was my living and family situation), i rarely ever ate, i couldnt sleep so they fucking added another drug on top of that that was like a blood sugar drug for diabetics i think to help me sleep and i still dont understand it. Im 21 and i just...i dont get it man
My dumbass therapist tried to sell me meds. I declined every time and I'm fine today. Just an addict, but adding more substances to my body definitely isn't gonna help
I was under maybe 10 different medications throughout my elementary school days as a treatment for ADHD. I remember one particular medication that made me extremely aggressive, I used to be bullied by this big kid named Dominic on the playground, and one day he went to go over and f with me like he normally does everyday at recess. I remember just losing my mind, I tackled him to the ground, punching him in the face. I was pulled off of him by a bunch monitors who were out there, what was strange was I didn’t even remember hitting him when I was in the principals office. But I literally broke down in tears when I heard just how much damage I did, two black eyes, broke his nose, split his lip open, and left him with enormous welts on his face. I was 10 when this happened and even despite the fact that he bullied me from kindergarten to 5th grade, I still feel guilty and upset that I even hurt him that badly, even now 13 years later it’s a painful thought. The drug I was on was called Vivance and my prescription was too high for a 10 year old, random outbursts of violent rage were a side effect.
@@thedislikebutton6589Just being a addict is not fine. Addiction is a mental illiness and can kill you or other since most people do not make good choice when high. Children brain are still growing so drugs effect them differently then adults.
This video is exactly why childrens mental health needs to be taken WAY more seriously. I feel terrible for that little boy and the mother. I cant bring myself to hate the girl either but what she did was so horrific.
Doctors tell little boys they believe them if they say they’re really girls, and even prescribe them puberty blockers. Yeah… mental health needs to be taken way more seriously.
Yeah, I can’t bring myself to seriously blame the girl since it could seriously just be intrusive thoughts, this can be proven by the fact she hoped her brother lives and is in a state of panic
@@bumbumbole.1im sorry bro. I have a friend who’s parents also don’t care about her mental health at all, they don’t believe depression or suicidal thoughts exist. I cant imagine having parents that are that horrible. I truly, truly hope you can get help and get better ❤️🩹 you got this dude
"You better pray to God he survives" Heartbreaking. Such sympathy for that mother. I can't even comprehend the sadness, loneliness and dread she felt that night. Unreal.
She probably meant the father in heaven and not the god of this world. The daughter sounds like she got into some dark shit, as she mentioned earlier in the video “some demonic shit!”. I just thought it was interesting. I don’t know these people, but what are the chances the mom was strictly Christian, and the girl got into dark rituals and some weird satanic shit, rebellion against God as a tool to rebel against the mother. Unwittingly setting herself up to do the devil’s bidding. This was the culmination of all of that. Lucifer has ways of desensitizing people and hardening their hearts. The devil you push you to eventually to do something as brutal as stabbing your brother to death while he was sleeping, may he rest peacefully at the right hand of the Lord. Repenting to Jesus is the only repellent to demons, remember that at all times & God Bless. 🙏🏻
The golden child and the mother usually become best friends so they will be fine. That child was probably the outcast anyways. You know the soft, sensitive nerdy one that no one likes. Ever. Honestly he's lucky cause he would have suffered like the rest of us
I saw the original video and I just wanna say that the cop was amazing, he was calm throughout the entire thing and didn't do anything to make the situation worse.
I feel for the cop talking to her in the car. He had no idea what to do but he found the words and did his best to be helpful and supportive. Respect. All the officers dealing with the child were amazing.
Middle child here, frankly in the environment I grew up in, I totally imagined myself killing my sister with whom I had a horrible, day-to-day hate relationship with. And yes, more than normal siblings have. I would constantly imagine stabbing her along with suicidal thoughts. But I guess I was stronger than those impulse of despair and anger. 27 now and managed to distance myself from the dorectnsource of trigger, pain and hate. Watching this video, I can totally imagine how this could have been me. I'm truly glad I was able to get out of there...
I just cannot imagine how i would feel if this happened to me as a parent of 2 children. This is enough to drive a parent into a state of so many emotions that it would actually drive them right to the looney bin.
This is all the parents fault the mom was a junky the biological father was a white supremacist in prison and the step father killed a cat by torturing it I hope the mother thinks about that night every second because it’s all on her
@@TheProtagonistDiesI think it has more to do with the fact that she’s 12. Most kids/teens who commit a serious crime have the same way of thinking. They think they will be spared or placed somewhere other than jail because their children. Which does happen! And I’ve seen TONS of actual adults ask the same thing to officers constantly!😂
@@KaraTheGirlie 1000000000% yes if she/it is willing to do that to it's own family and a younger one at that. She/it will do it again. So YES to protect others and for the safety of the community yes I would. I'm sorry you're so weak you can't stomach what needs to be done
I Totally understand why the mother didn't feel the need to respond at the time, her main concern in that moment was her child that was unconscious and fighting for his life. In that moment it is absolutely fine for her to be more concern with the victim child than the suspect child!!and hours later un benunce to her, a dead child!!!
@@Dark._Lightningit’s her own child??? plus it’s pretty obvious the 12 year old girl has some pretty bad mental issues and intrusive thoughts. if anything it’s only good for her own mom to support her in solving her intense intrusive thoughts and mental issues
That poor boy, it must have been horribly terrifying and painful, to wake up in the middle of the night being stabbed by your own sister... I hope the mother is going to recover 😓
@@fatooshtkdEven the mother said this wasn’t her daughter, but the meds. It wasn’t her fault. Ambien isn’t for children. It’s not even recommended for children under 18. She was on it a year back, and her mother made her stop taking it because it changed her. Her doctors prescribed it again, shortly before this. There have been horror stories even from adults who’ve taken it. My aunt was put on it and didn’t remember threatening my uncle with a knife one night because she was afraid aliens were coming to abduct her. Of course, it works for some. But that’s no excuse to give it to a child.
@@EagleXYZLibertarianForChrist tells us nothing, the kid was taken off of medication and done something horrible, this could happen to tens of millions of people across the globe.
I've seen someone else "cover" this case, but there weren't subtitles or explanations like your guy's channel. Not to mention they don't go in depth as to the status of the case like you guys do. Not to mention I didn't even see the bodycam footage of the officers going into the house. This channel is amazing at covering these cases and helping others see what unfolds.
hearing at the end about sudden medication withdrawal kinda broke me. sudden dose changes of any kind of psychoactive meds are absolutely brutal on the mind, i know from personal experience and seeing friends go through it. She already suffering from emotional recognition and control issues at the age where hormones can fuck up your thoughts even more, combined with stress from school or home life, previous trauma and, tiredness, it can very easily be become extremely easy to break down over the smallest things. I wish this girl the best in recovery and i hope that she gets the care she deserves because something like this will absolutely lead to a terrible depression, knowing what you did and the images of it constantly haunting her. I hope she finds someone to comfort her though this. She does not deserve any more punishment.
yall some simps man. There was another video of a similar age boy who killed his little brother and the comments were way more critical, as they should be! He killed his brother, doesnt matter that he was abused as a kid and had mental truama!
She wasn't having med withdrawal it came out that she hasn't been on the ADHD meds for almost a yr. She didnt like her brother and talked to friends about killing him days before his murder. She only cared about going to jail not her brother and let's not get started on her drug addict mom and her KKK drug dealer father.
Thank you for covering this. I remember the first time I saw this footage and it is so so heartbreaking. I literally cannot imagine being in that mothers position
@@klembokable what unrestricted internet does. “It was some demonic shit” age to be on the internet needs to be 18. She didn’t even care about her brother she worried about going to jail.
@@surprised376 so? She still only showed any kind of emotion when *she* was in trouble. This shows that she’s capable of thought so she’s not insane. In any case we need the old institutions back, good ol straight jacket and padded room. Where you forfeit all humane rights. Bring them back.
I was really holding on to hope that the little boy was going to make it... As soon as they said he died, my heart sank. I have a little boy, and I don't know if I'd be able to handle this. I couldn't even possibly begin to imagine the agony this mother has gone through. Just an all round f***ed up situation.
same, I was hoping he survived because hearing the victims testimony and impact speech would've been so nice to hear. RIP to the little fella rest in peace
i don't even have a kid, and ewu's lowkey evil for purposefully stringing me along holding my breath from the moment i realized what the detective might've "learned" to the point we find out. i was even still holding out hope when the mom came in and wasn't hysterical or pissed or anything. just completely numb...which i took for being calm and a good sign, only for them to pull the rug out from under me, felt like i was the one that got stabbed in the chest right then 😭 tragic...for him and mom, i cannot imagine
The cop that was with the little girl in the patrol vehicle has such a big heart. Just proud to how he was talking to her, trying to keep her calm. I pray for the little girl and her family, and really heartbroken for their loss. God watch over them 🙏❤
I'm glad the moment the mother walks around the corner and hesitates after she sees her daughter was blurred. She had to be feeling a thousand emotions at that split second. Literally torn between two worlds. One hand she just lost a child, and the one that is alive is the reason for it. God bless her
@@chrisprescott2273 why are you reading it so literally? it's not perfect english but the meaning is clear. The start of that sentence is "I'm glad the moment" ... then describes which momen... "was blurred".
Psychotropics and antidepressants prescribed to children can be very risky, especially when they're not weaned off. This is truly sad for everyone involved. She's a child as well, although what she did is just horrific.
Very very true, I just said as much in one of my comments. And that doctors get huge commission and bonus's from big pharma companies to push out certain drugs and newer drugs that come out .this happens all over the world, it's shady AF...I think they are far to quick to label kids with these illnesses that years ago would have been put down to bad behavior or hormones of a preteen/teen child. That in my opinion is what caused this senseless tragedy. Very important as you said that they are weened off them properly as these a powerful,mind altering drugs. Even when you don't have them maybe for a couple of days you still get side effects.. that would scary for an adult never mind a 13 year old kid🤦🏻♂️.. Great comment 👍🏼
Right! when I heard they had her on Ambien I was shocked. I was prescribed Ambien in high school because I had severe insomnia. You hear about adults taking it all the time for plane rides and you think it's not that serious of a drug. But I didn't know till I started taking the medication that it made me hear voices and I've never had that problem before. It was terrifying and I stopped it immediately. People don't realize I can cause a lot of psychological problems especially if the person is younger.
Girl was taking an ADHD medicine. Sudden withdrawal may cause: anxiety, rapid heartbeat, high blood pressure, sluggishness or sleepiness, headaches and tremors. It is one of many drugs thats use or discontinuation that has NOT been found to cause mood changes, depression, suicidal thoughts or homicidal urges. Furthermore, medications that have been accused/ "linked" to "causing" suicidal or homicidal thoughts such as Prozac CANNOT be conclusively linked to these thoughts via repeated lab studies. Patients tend to have these thoughts prior to being medicated. In short, she may be crazy be her meds or lack thereof likely had NOTHING to do with her murdering her brother.
The girl was obviously only concerned for her own well-being. Instead of worrying for her brother she was repeating "I messed up my future", "I messed up my life", "I'm going to jail", etc. She even said "I just need everybody to forgive me." It's insane. I know what it's like to be sorry for the consequences and not for the actual action, and she reekes of this mindset. R.I.P. little man.
What a deeply sad and tragic story. I feel so sorry for that mom what she has to go through. I hope she gets all the support that she deserves. That was painful to watch.
Would you allow a man who tortured the family cat to death to live in your home with your kids just so that you could have sex and free childcare? What amazes me is that people think they can be selfish without consequences.
Look up the parental history of this disjointed mess of a family. Your sympathy for mom shrivels up real fast. She made her choices, and now she's learning that actions have consequences. She deserves no sympathy.
@@fatooshtkd and im praying i dont goto effing hell for rolling the wrong dice and choosing the wrong religion. theres a reason heaven is called "paradise" (pair A Dice)
being the middle child, this is unthinkable on two levels, my sister would never, I would never, and the fact the mother believed he would be okay but later realizing there was nothing they could do, that poor boy, I can only imagine what the mother is going through..
i love how the police were so calm with her like they knew she had mental issues “im sorry im sorry im so sorry” “its okay its okay” they knew she was a kid
And they acknowledged she was a child. Usually cops in smaller, quiet areas such as Oklahoma are much calmer and reasonable compared to city police. I respect them for that
@ariscaguimbal8333 - what on earth does your zodiac sign have to do with anything here?? What a stupid, pointless comment... Your evelavtpr doesn't even reach the mid floor, let alone the top one..
@@ariscaguimbal8333 As I'm not a Cancer, I could absolutely not feel ANY of her emotions. She's a stone cold killer in my eyes, 100%, she didn't seem that upset at all to me, she seemed calm and all... But I'm not Cancer so yeah :/
This has really messed me up at 5:30 in the morning. I cannot fathom this pain and heart break and being torn between a murdered son and the daughter who murdered him. Every first responder, medical team, detective, everyone. Hats off to you for having to see these things all the time, i cant imagine that either.
I feel bad for that officer. He isn't gonna forget that night. That's the kind of stuff that effects you way later in life. Poor guy really had to use the bathroom too. That felt so relateable and human. I don't know why that part makes me sad for him. I know if I had a moment to myself during something like this that is when it would hit me.
@@ColinMor-fj3qc”punished behind my wildest imagination,” you’d be surprised to see how many child-parent killing cases are based on ‘punishment’ they received as kids. do a little research
As an older brother, I can understand being annoyed with your sibling, but I could never imagine doing somthing like that to my brother. I got choked up just thinking about inadvertently or purposely killing a sibling like that. Such a terrible tragedy.
Sadly the meds she has could have serious effects, lots of medication can affect teens and give them extreme homicidal and suicidal tendencies. Ik that sometimes I took smth and especially my hormones made me go from normal to extreme depressive/suicidal mood swings.
But honestly I have fought my brother so many times and I’ve even thought of harming him severely, i don’t think I could’ve actually killed him but I’ve been that angry in the moment and thought about making a big mistake, hell I threw knives at his door, I live in Tulsa too and I’m only a few years older than this girl so this super fucking scary to me
You appreciate this lol? 9byesr old kid dies but it's OK because you are entertained. You realize he posts this to make money yeah? Capitalizing on tragedy sure is a good thing!
Given the mom only has one child now, it's different. If he lived, I would have understood, but her disowning her now? I dunno... I can't begin to understand what the mother has went through, this was sad. :(
I wasn’t a good big brother and I lost my little bro in a motorcycle accident when I was 32 and he was 30 and it’s basically destroyed my life. I’ll never forgive myself for it and it’s easily my biggest of many failures. If she loved her brother it’s going to absolutely destroy her in a way I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
I know we will never meet but my condolences really. I was going to reconnect with two childhood friends and I waited too long. They were both brothers. The younger one overdosed on fentanyl and I'm sure that destroyed my friend. By the time I came around to hang out my friend(older brother) passed away a couple months prior. I'm not sure if his younger brothers death devastated him to the point to kill himself or what happened. I tried contacting the mom but she never replied. I feel like I could've helped my friend cope but I didn't. I wish you the best and hope you have the strength to carry on. Honestly not reconnecting with those two and learning why happened made me cry and I regret not reconnecting right away when we met again in adulthood.
Hey man... you gotta let it go I don't know you or your brother but I can promise you no matter what kind of asshole you were that he wouldn't want you to carry that.... In death we let go of all that bullshit, trust me when I say he doesn't care about that. All you can do is learn from it.... don't let it happen with *anyone else* Where there is breath there is life, where there is life there is hope, and with hope comes a possibility of change Never stop trying. I can see from that little bit you wrote that it really impacted you, use it for good now. Let it be the catalyst that makes you who you are supposed to be. Loss is a part of life, just like change... it's in our nature to grieve and mourn but always get back up and never buck against it. Eb and flow... life is in constant flux and so are you. Move with it and let it move you I hope you find peace❤
Dang man.. This is probably the saddest case I ever heard. It's so heartbreaking and just awful.. The mom didn't lose not one but both of her child's. That has to be a horrible feeling. Rip to the boy, I hope the mom finds some peace in her life after this, and to the girl, I hope she also finds peace in her life and whatever mentally is going on with her gets better.
@@ryandgarland stop dehumanizing her. theres clearly something going on, and shes well aware of it. medications can seriously mess up with someones mind, and its clear thats what happened to her. shes not putting an act, shes compliant, she says "sorry", shes in genuine distress. shes not screaming nor is she angry. get a life.
@@kiv3745 still responsible for all of her actions. Meanwhile millions of these prescriptions have been taken by others and they haven't stabbed anyone to death. So it must not be her, it must be the medication. Triple 🤡🤡🤡 logic there.
@@ryandgarlandno one does this and is in the right mind feeling well. she did something wrong but she needs help and she needs to be listened to so people know what's wrong. she showed no intention in wanting to do what she did but she DOES show that she doesn't know or understand why she did it. if you understand the human mind and how people behave and react you know this is a case of a young woman needing serious help.
She didn't necessarily apologize to him though. She apologized to her mom, the cop, and apologizes and prays to God. She doesn't apologize to her brother, merely asking for his condition and if he was in the Hospital. I would hope she cares for him, but in that moment, it would appear she was sorry to everyone except for him.
Hard to know if she meant the brother or the mother there. Compared to earlier in the video when she said the exact thing to the mother. She only said sorry when the officer said her mother was over there. This is not enough evidence to suggest she said sorry to the brother I am afraid@@TheRandomOne-sn9im
What an amazing job by thus officer. He recognizes her panic and obvious mental instability and handles her situation well. I am not excusing the fact that she is responsible for this terrible act.
But it is so heartbreaking for her too, to be unable to differentiate between her intrusive thoughts and her actions. That must be absolutely horrible to grapple with after the fact
I don't think he did a great job. To let her know her actions were okay is not okay. I get she is a child, but he pretty much condoned her behavior. And to say the brother will prob lives, smh.
@@FOFProductions4012very common tactic to get a confession or complete statement LEO is always taught to minimize the crime so the suspect cooperates, doesn’t mean he agrees, he’s doing what he has too to get justice for the victim
As someone with experience with ADHD and being heavily medicated in my youth, I can certainly say that it's possible to feel "possessed" after being taken off of medications, especially when recent. At 18 I forcibly stopped medicating, and for about a month, I experienced extremely uncontrollable anger and mood swings. Luckily I kept to myself. It may not normally be so extreme for most cases, but I was left on certain medications that were recommended for use only about ~6 months, but remained on said medications for nearly 4 years. Certainly she's at fault for her actions, but perhaps admittance into a mental hospital for a lengthy period would be necessary.
Lengthy period? She needs to be put into a mental institution for the rest of her life for the safety of everyone. If the only thing stopping her from murdering people is whether she decides to take her meds or not, then she needs to be under supervision constantly to be sure she takes them
Agree. People are giving the one officer shit for telling her "it's okay, it'll be alright" etc... What else are they supposed to do? Make the situation worse by verbally shitting all over her like "nah, you should keep having a crisis, he's gonna fucking die. you'll probably be going to prison for years" and making the situation 100x worse? People will criticize them no matter what. I'm sure if he said that, they'd hate on him even harder.
@@mabyonedayicanbehappywell sadly people will feel nothing for the girl she clearly has something mentally wrong with her and this just happened it must be sad for all of them but the little brother the most
i have 6 siblings. i sometimes wished they would just die. mainly cause i was thinking it want ok in what circumstances we lived in (extremely abusive household) but i was also so scared to lose em. i dont get her AT ALL. i could have never harmed my siblings. its so sad that this world is so horrible... :(
Yeah, got a little sister and it chilled me to the bone to think a sibling would do this to their younger sibling…especially at that age too. At that age I was giving my sis piggyback rides…
Imagine she didn't conciously decide to do it but had a manic/psychotic episode coming from untreated mental ilness. This girl is not a cold blooded murderer.
I have a younger sister and I would never consider hurting her! We were riding my bike with her sitting on the handlebars when I was this girl's age. 🚴♀️
I have a 12 year old granddaughter and a 9 year old grandson (brother and sister) and this felt way too intense to watch, trying to not imagine my grandkids in this situation but you hear the ages and its... WOW. That poor mom. 😢
I’m right there with you Miss lily. My sons are 12 and 18. This video popped up on my feed and I wish I wouldn’t have clicked. I’m crying so hard right now my friend.
im a teenager myself and this is so horrible. I have a friend who has pretty severe depression & suicidal thoughts and intrusive thoughts etc and I just imagine something like this with her and I feel sick… her parents don’t even care, they don’t believe depression is real and that she’s making it up. It’s genuinely so upsetting.. I know she would never but mental illness is insane what it can do to you. I don’t even know how to feel about this video honestly.
@@Owibi I hear you 100%. The good thing is this. They have you as their friend. Stick by their side through their darkest days and they will be ok. Godspeed.
I feel really bad for the whole family . The girl had such huge intrusive thoughts you can see she's clearly in panic and regrets her actions . The fact that she said "I love you" to her mother before she went to see her son breaks my heart thinking that she might fear that her mother doesn't love her anymore .
She seems more in panic and worried for the consequences that she herself will face, jail for the rest of her life and having ruined her future, rather than feeling sorry for killing her brother I think
Regrets her actions? Really? Why then was shes more worried about going to jail? People that cry for the attacker are idiots. It's not mental health it's evil. I've seen so many kids that attack teachers, parents and random people then cry "mental health problems it makes me sick
A similar thing happened in my town when I was in 8th grade. Our school went into lockdown for a while and no one knew why and we later found out that a girl who lived in the neighborhood behind the highschool, which was right down the street from my middle school, was stabbed to death and the sister called 911 and said a man came in and attacked them and left so that’s why the schools were locked down but it came out the next day that she was actually the one who stabbed her sister to death
That would be more of a crime of passion as he did it spontaneously with anger, this girl told her friends she was going to kill her brother and she did, she went while he slept by the sounds of it and stabbed him 3 times not once But 3 so even after his screams she kept stabbing.... premeditated as far as I'm concerned she wanted him dead it seems. It's just my opinion and how I think.
@@manditoemya8478 yea and from how she was talking her primary and only concern was for herself and not her brother, im not a psycologist but if i was to throw a wild guess out there i would say she is a psychopath or a sociopath with a whole bunch of other messed up mental stuff going on.
What a sad tragic story. It was noticeable the girl was more concerned with what was going to happen to her than the little brother she stabbed to death.
This is just one big siblings are naturally like they’re all sadists who love nothing more than the screams of their helpless little victim, who can’t fight back because there’s so much smaller.
Such a horrific case, but an example of what wrong diagnoses and prescriptions from medical professionals can result in. It relieves me to see how sensitive the officers handled this situation. It’s truly saddening to see our world transform into this atrocity.
Not every tragic result is an effect of wrong diagnosis. In many fields of life, you can make a perfectly reasonable decision but it's effect can turn out to be bad.
@@maciejguzek3442Not all, but the right diagnosis matters. Most antidepressants will actually worsen bipolar. You're messing with brain chemistry, it's a big deal.
@@newbleppmore7855 It's not that easy. It's brain chemistry you're messing with here. Too much of one chemical can cause hallucinations, and under-treated conditions means someone with a sick brain is making decisions. Legally, they're less culpable for their actions.
astounded with how the officers but especially officer xiong dealt with her, showing compassion and empathy in a situation where most would find it impossible to.
No they didn't. They called her sweety and said "it's nobody's fault" when she stabbed her sleeping brother! It doesn't matter how old she is and she's clearly not suffering from substantial disorder. Wouldn't be surprised if she has something like BPD but that is no excuse for what she did. I hope she gets treated the way she deserves in the future. Doubt it though, since she's a poor poor girl that could never do wrong in many people's eyes.
@@thekiwiclipper1113good thing you aren’t an officer. the girl clearly has severe mental issues. also as the officer talking with her said, they are investigating and had no idea what they would do. what do you expect them to say to her? that her life is ruined so that she freaks out even more? they need to be able to talk to her to figure out what happened
@@thekiwiclipper1113 I agree that a substantial disorder is at play, but BPD is a really weird thing to bring up here, especially without any represented motive behind the attack. It's a very common personality disorder with one of the better prognosis for recovery, and it typically doesn't even really develop until mid-late teens into early adulthood. Even if she has BPD or a neurological propensity for it, the fact that she actually carried out the act indicates a much more severe mental disturbance that produced a temporary psychosis overwhelming enough to carry out these acts. What do you mean, "treated" the way she deserves? She needs treatment, period. Our karma fantasies are irrelevant in the face of severe mental disorder. This isn't about feeling good or bad about her. She's ill in a way that is endangering to herself and others, and it's a very sad situation that requires careful medical attention, not punishment. Punishment could actually worsen her ability to self-regulate, especially if excessive punishment may have traumatized her into this kind of instability in the first place, and in turn cause these violent episodes to emerge more rapidly. It isn't mentioned in the video, but this girl's stepfather has an extremely violent history, and once got drunk and violently killed one of his other daughter's cats. I have a feeling that the risk of authoritative punishment actually terrifies this girl the most, which is why she makes that strange remark about being a good person. Her getting "what she deserves" might sound like sweet justice to you, but instilling fear is not the path to recovery for people whose fear is the driving cause behind their actions. Fear will only increase their violence, because for them, violence feels like self preservation. These are people who need to learn to feel safe so that they are not a threat to others. We don't need to feel bad for them to help them find that inner safety or to recognize that feeling safe is how they can become safer around others. You need to remember that given her age, this will likely not be a life sentence under US law, which is why the police are genuinely uncertain about what will happen to her. She could be tried as an adult, but more likely, she will be released, so it is imperative that the treatment she gets actually does allow her to reintegrate with society in a way that does not pose a risk to herself or others. If that can't happen? If she ends up freed to a life of of being stalked, bullied, harassed and threatened because people are more concerned with what she deserves than what she needs for recovery? That's just going to bring back memories of the abuse instilled by her stepfather, and this is going to happen again, endangering her or someone ELSE. Zander didn't deserve what happened to him, and the most important thing now is making sure she stands the best possible chance for mental help and recovery so that it DOESN'T happen, again.
@@thekiwiclipper1113I totally agree with you. They should've put her in the back seat. When she said 'are these cuffs necessary, I'm a good girl's he should've said yes they are because you just stabbed someone! They shouldn't have called her sweetie and told her she didn't do anything wrong. She should've been told what she did was awful and that she isn't a good girl. People don't have to have mental issues to do criminal acts!? Sometimes they just do it because they're not a good person. The reason everyone gets out of trouble now is because anything that anyone does wrong is blamed on a mental issues so it's ok, they couldn't help it. BS! Stop excusing every crime and blaming it on mental issues
When I was in college I was arrested for driving with a suspended license I was totally calm and respectful to the officers and they treated me like I just murdered someone. They treated this girl FAR better than I was and she actually murdered a child. Strange
@@okipullup6316 True, not all police are nice and polite but OP is obviously talking out of his / her arse when they state "I was totally calm and respectful to the officers and they treated me like I just murdered someone."
Horrifying. I stopped a medication because it caused crazy realistic dreams and nightmares. I would wake up feeling like I'd just lived 10 horrible days in a row and have trouble picking through the memories for what was real and was a dream. It was disturbing and i spent months unable to go anywhere. If that's what type of meds she was dealing with idk maybe that's why the delay in charges. Some mental health issues are really big and really scary. I doubt her mom had the resources to support her through given she was having to play babysitter/part-time mom to her siblings and there wasn't a second parent in the house. The USA certainly doesn't have much in the way of support for mental health issues, especially severe ones. Most of the time severe mental health results in death or prison.
I had a similar experience - I was on a medication that gave me vivid, realistic, incredibly graphic nightmares. Hurting myself and others- and I’m the kind of person that can’t see blood without being woozy. Disturbing what medication can do to your brain.
I also had really intensive realistic dreams/nightmares when I was taking meds during my chemotherapy. It’s been 12 years since then and I can still remember every detail of them.
@harveybirdman2 it's wild. I always had dreams as a symptom, even without meds. I still have them when my anxiety is bad, usually about being late to work/ having car trouble/ getting fired and then I wake up with all those negative emotions as though it all really happened and I have to figure out what to do with all that by 8am so it doesn't come true 🙃 gotta get to/start work. Then I tried meds and it just made the bad dreams longer and more real and more terrible. Including health scares and illnesses and deaths in the family and of terrible things happening to my pets, it's awful. All things that were realistic enough to have possibly actually happened, but in real life it's all just in my head and nobody knows that to me it was all real just last night. Dreams with full smell taste feel, it's just like traveling to another world like in a book, only sucky. I have been diagnosed with severe General Anxiety Disorder and ptsd and this is the colorful way it presents itself I guess.
This is so heartbreaking. May the poor child rest in peace. Sometimes, in cases where minors are involved, other parties may have to be under scrutiny to see what they did or didn't do right.
I really feel for the poor boy and the mother, that boy must have been absolutely terrified and in so much pain that little angel. It’s gotta be really traumatic seeing your own son stabbed and blood everywhere while he’s screaming in pain. The police really have to deal with the toughest and hardest things.
I noticed that too. She never once said I hope he'll be okay, at least not in this footage. Everything was about her. Saying I'm sorry could mean that she is sorry for herself and what she has done to her life.
i love youtube commenters because yall are so stupid. the amount of times she apologized and asked about her brother... "nah she killed him in cold blood fuck this bitch" shes a child clearly struggling with mental health issues. "she asked about herself so shes homicidal" like dude..... shes a kid who did something horrible but how would u function if you did something like this at 12?
I can't even imagine how horrifying it would be to have those thoughts, and them controlling your mind. I hope everyone heals from this and the mother and daughter can recover💗 R.I.P little guy🕊
Her asking if the handcuffs were necessary was downright eerie. It was as if a different person was speaking. It wouldn't surprise me if she had multiple personality disorder, and that was her other half talking
It gave me the chills. I can see how if you are religious how you could easily see that as possession. For me it’s the lack of motive. The way this is horrible for everyone involved. Even her. Something is seriously wrong with girls brain.
@@Gizziiusa I cussed a ton as a kid because I grew up around a father that added a cuss word at the end of each of his sentences, so not so much out of the ordinary. Plus kids have internet these days and have access to practically anything.
@@weirdloverwilde Honestly it's fine if you dislike cops, there are many valid arguments. But many cops are similar to this guy in the way he acts. It sounds rude what the other guy said but as you grow older and meet more people your opinions really do change. You realize the 'groupings' you did of people are wildly wrong because there is so much variance among people.
i don't think the mother knows her daughter is dealing with something mentally and it's hard to explain it to her in that kind of state. i don't know how one could have this happen and everyone gets the support, care and justice they deserve. RIP to the son/brother.
People neglect children all the time. It's usually safe to mistreat them since most of them don't murder. However murders are most commonly committed by someone close to the victim. She took her chances in order to have more "Me Time" and she's one of the unlucky few for whom this didn't work out.
she must've had some serious mental health issues, with her self-harm and uncontrollable crying she was deep in something that nobody knew about. All my condolences are to the mother and her family.
It's scary how mere 12 years of neglect and mistreatment can damage a child. Back in the day children were forced to behave and work and somehow they didn't all turn into psychos.
@papajavaleri747 yeah I can see that, my grandmother she had to behave in a manner that was polite and respectful, she was taught by Catholic nuns so she was also religious and believe in God and Jesus!
@@The_Devil_Chariot"she clearly has no self control" yeah man because she's literally mentally sick. why do you think people jump off roofs? you think they could control shit? lmao. i am _not_ excusing her, but i am sympathizing. poor thing.
That's exactly how my "sister" acted every time she injured me trying to kill me. Every time I was quickly forgotten while the folks tried to "calm her down". I would imagine this was just the latest attack on that poor boy. I hope they lock her up for life for the safety of others, but they won't. They never do.
You are correct. My eldest who has autism and definite narcissism has always been jealous of his younger brother growing up would always say the most awful things to him he would bully him in private take his pocket money threaten him and his brother wouldn't tell me anyway fast forward the eldest has had 2 nervous breakdowns and violent outbursts because of girls who cannot put up with him and we have locks on our bedrooms doors and have hidden all the knives the boys no longer speak and I am waiting to get him put into respite because he doesn't change his behaviour and always plays the victim. Rip to the little boys I'm devastated for them 💔
My big brother spent 14 out of 18 years of my childhood inflicting a reign of brutality and terror on me, and surviving that abuse, It’s never just one time it’s a pattern and habit of brutalization.
Y’all must be 30+ If you have that mindset, you have to understand where the killer is coming from in these cases, they literally say in the video that the pills got to her and gave her “bad thoughts”. I would never hurt my family but you don’t know how she felt when she took the pills!
This was a rough watch. My brother and I have the same age difference. I had a lot of unaddressed mental health issues growing up and always fought with him. It's difficult to admit that yes I did want to hurt him then. I'm nearly 40 now and have been in counseling and on meds for a very long time. The amount of shame I feel at my younger self is immense. And we'll never have a good relationship. I'm just glad I never snapped enough to really really cause life threatening injuries.
I applaud you for getting help. Nobody can really understand what you went through but at least you are taking steps to do something about it. I can respect that, and in turn wish you the best luck
I can completely relate. I resented my parents for years for forcing me into treatments centers but I’m glad they did. All these cases of unchecked mental illness are so heartbreaking.
That poor family... my heart breaks for them... especially the mom and little boy... may he rest in peace... also, that cop did an amazing job. Other officers should follow his approach when dealing with emotional kids...
As a parent. It's critical to always be in touch with your kids. Just talking to them as a person. I always push my teen a little to talk more, to check her mental state. In this story. This girl's mental state is far gone. This wasn't done over night. There were clues. Such as cutting herself. Even after the fact. She's ONLY concerned for herself. Not her brother.
What a horrible situation. I wish I could un-see this. This poor woman lost both of her children, and we don't even understand why. I hope that everyone involved in this case can get the help that is needed.
Clearly when a 12 year old just rolls the word F__k off her tongue to her mother tells me a lot. Even as an adult, if I used the F word in front of my mother she’d slap me into next month! Yet, here she is using the F word as if it’s part of her everyday language. I’m telling you , parents better get a hold of their BABIES! She knew what she was doing! Just wait and see. Oh, poor baby… she has a boo boo! All she can think about is herself… “Am I going to jail?” Mom says her daughter has never been aggressive, yet after the fact she says her daughter had a manic episode . So, what changed? She’s lost her son and trying to save her daughter who murdered him. She belongs in prison. She was yelling, “It was demonic!” Well, demon possessed people don’t realize what they do. She stabbed her brother and went upstairs leaving her mother to find her son on the floor dying! She only came down when she heard the commotion. She’s just putting on a show!
@@delilahrainelle7158youve gotta be joking. swearing in front of your parents doesnt make you a murderer. i know really good, gentle hearted kids that swear all the time, its just a way to accentuate your speech. for most kids, it IS everyday speech and it has no deeper meaning than that. also, manic episodes arent necessarily characterized by aggression. "not aggressive" and "manic episodes" can coexist. you are trying really hard at this armchair psychologist thing, but you arent doing well.
She's female so it's okay. 80% of the comments show compassion for her. Imagine if a big brother knifed his little sister to death - he would have far less supportive comments.
@@shobhnakapoor1399they show compassion bc she's a child.... compliant, mentally ill, and showing remorse. Judging by this comment, you have issues with women. Seek help.
i've gone through scary thoughts like that i almost acted on. the fact that she also had cuts along with killing her brother and her clear remorse after the fact really gives way to the VERY huge possibility of something mental going on. i used to take tenex and prozac and they made me feel like i was just stuck in a half dead body and not able to coherently do things. medicine withdrawal and medicine side effects can be so dangerous and scary. i wish the best for the mother and i hope the girl gets the help she needs..
Finally. Someone understands. It's horrible what she did but she was VERY MUCH not in the right state of mind... some meds screw you up!! We prescribe horrid things, and parents VERY OFTEN ignore their kids saying how it makes them feel and how they want off it... personal experience here. Never got THIS bad but I understand.
@NazzyDragon it's not just meds. Really a spiritual side to it as well I and allot personally believe to. She hit the nail on the head by calling it "demonic". pharmakeíā being pharmacy; the use of drugs or medicines. sorcery, witchcraft. Really more to this world than they want us to know. Take it as you may overall. Not all meds mind you. But the mental pills are just very concerning and much much more.
She stayed and waited for the police and was actually relieved they were gonna pick her up she didn’t ask to be released even once, her mom said they don’t even fight and weren’t fighting and she’s not violent. Only thing I can think of is mental instability.
Well that medication they took her off of has some nasty affects, I had a coworker who was taken off the same stuff, say across from me at lunch, strangely quiet. The next day he didn't come in to work. He went home and killed his wife and kids, then himself. Drugs are bad, mostly when they suddenly cant have them anymore.
As an older sister, I could never imagine doing this to my little sister. Even though my sister and I sometimes have our fights and disagreements, I could never ever think of doing anything to her. She is my precious little sister, I care for her and would do anything for her. My heart goes out to this family, fly high lil bro❤
Holy moly did this bring me back to my daughter's early teens. She had mental health issues after her dad unexpectedly died. She only ever hurt herself, and that was terrifying enough. I can't imagine if she had hurt someone else. She told me she had intrusive thoughts like that. The girl in this vid saying "I'm so sorry mama" over and over and over...damn that hurts my heart. She sounds SO MUCH like my little girl back then. My baby girl is now 24 and is pregnant. She got therapy and no longer hallucinates :)
Jeez sorry to hear that this brought back some bad memories. Iv noticed alot with young girls going through alot of mental crisis so to speak, especially as they approach teen years.. even my own younger sister went through similar stuff, and many others girls I knew of that age group. I was thinking it must be from the meds for ADHD, I feel doctors are far to quick to stick labels on kids so they can treat them with drugs that doctors get paid to push, they get commission and/or bonuses for pushing new drugs it happens all over the world..I feel that has to be a link. I know some cases are valid but alot are not and are simply just bad behavior or developing hormones of a young kid.. it must be so tough as a parent to go though and support the child and themselves.. I hope it's all a bad, distant memory for you now and you guys are both doing great..Best wishes 🙋♂️ 🍀
@@Ken_Daltonadhd meds dont make you hallucinate. Contrary, really help us as adhders. Dont spread missinformation please, it only prevails the stigma around an enough missundetstood disorder.
@@Ken_Dalton This kind of misinformation about ADHD medication is why I'm an adult who's still unmedicated and untreated, and its not exactly a fucking cakewalk.
@@kdizzle901 Yeah, they both have mental issues but still can ee the difference between right and wrong. The difference probably is that the baby killer doesn't care and she does/will (at least about how she ruined her own life)
@@kdizzle901 she obviously knew it was morally wrong though, wasn't dissociated/psychotic (enough) to not throw out the knife and not apologise and act differently around the officers than she did
I understand that this girl was facing a plethora of mental issues, including the fact she was no longer taking medication that she obviously needed. But she only seemed sorry for herself, she mostly talked about how HER future is ruined, and scared about going to jail for the rest of HER life. Hardly acknowledging the fact that she ruined her brothers future by murdering him. I hope she gets the treatment she needs, but I also hope she is not released to the public without constant supervision. If she can murder her own brother, she can murder anyone.
@@toKy0t0I guess if an eight-year-old stabs his parents, siblings, and friends to death, he's innocent. Wow, so smart. Truly one of the greatest minds.
God this is such a disheartening case. I feel really bad for all parties in this case, especially the mom who's basically lost both of her kids in different ways. I really hope the family can grieve and overcome such a terrible situation.
@@libertyna933 hopefully she's still being documented even if it will never be released into the public this is truly a shocking case that needs to be studied long term to see what triggered it mentally.
How could you ever trust that child again? She seems more sorry about how this will negatively effects her life instead of the fatal injury inflicted on her brogher.
The fact that this girl is crying about her own ruined future instead of thinking about the life of her younger brother that she murdered is beyond me.
@@infinitehexingtonwhen I was twelve I took care of my three little brothers home alone most of the times while my parents went for business trips and I didn’t do sh*t like this
What a heartbreaking case. Sending prayers to the lost family member and the mother with her daughter. Glad that the mother is still waiting and loving her. Life truly sucks sometimes.
This is a DREADFUL case, I can't imagine that Mom's mind in that moment, it must have shattered. I do want to give that officer Xiong credit, I know he's comforting a killer technically but that was good police work, trying to calm her down and talk her out of her panicked state. I really, really commend that, what a sweet officer. We need more like him.
No one has mentioned sleep walking. I hope they find a good neurologist to consult in her defense. The girl was fully aware of the consequences of her actions and knew her life as she knew it was over, after the deed. Seeing her clarity of thought, evident from the video, it’s hard to imagine she would kill her brother, no matter the sibling rivalry. Maybe the drugs she took DID have something to do with it. I have never seen anyone so sorry for what they did.
@@lindanowak7893 It's amazing how many people are falling for the tears and crying bit. She's not sorry about hurting her brother she's worried about the consequences for her. She repeats over and over that her life is over and she's going to prison. She shows no concern over her brother at all for most of this fake crying jag. She's also able to come out of the tears and wailing quite fast and answer questions quite coherently. This was not an accident she's just too young to pull it off very well.
@@skittlemenowthey believe good police work is allowing a murderer to be treated like you or me. In my mind, you lost your humanity when you commit an action like this. You are no longer human in my eyes and deserve no humane treatment. There will be no comfort or compassion.
As someone not from the US it's good to see there are police interactions where the officers are respectful and professional on all fronts, even though they did not know how to deal with a minor in such an extreme situation, they did not full on put blame on her in the moment and tried to calm her down. Respect for them. The girl obviously has some severe mental health problems.
@@sharpshooter_Ausand that's why you have a crime problem. Keep locking up people for petty drug charges bro that's definitely affordable and doesn't just lead to prisons becoming drug hot beds due to complete lack of care around reform
@@sharpshooter_Aus Of course we do, because assuming things and jumping on a bandwagon of "they did a horrible thing so treat them bad without all the facts!" isn't exactly a good thing. Medication like antidepressants and ADHD can *LEGITIMATELY* cause homocidal thoughts and behaviors, and a 12 year old was taking them. This is literally *BOUND* to happen. Also, severely mentally ill people exist and so does temporary psychosis. What's the point of mistreating people, especially children, who can't control their thoughts or actions??? Because you're mad????? I've seen children die after the parent asked over and over again for help, and no one did anything especially in a specific situation I remember. Yet, people *SURE* are quick to blame her when she finally did have a mental breakdown! No one wants to help until it's too late, and then act like they are "morally superior". You're not, not if you don't even bother getting all all the facts and looking at the whole picture. I can understand anger, I watch a lot of True Crime. I *KNOW* killers who are fully aware of what they are doing, this is *NOT* the same. Under the same circumstances, that could be *YOU.*
they prescribed me ritalin when i was 9 years old for my adhd. i had horrific mood swings and snappy, uncharacteristically mean episodes for three weeks before jabbing a pencil into my classmate's arm over something egregiously trivial. they took me off the meds and the violent outbursts never happened again. children need to be constantly monitored when on adhd meds. you have no idea what kind of reaction they'll have to it. i feel so deeply for this poor family.
ritalin was prescribed to me at 19 and it made me SO moody and irritated. i cannot imagine being prescribed that as a CHILD with hormones raging. i said/did so many things i regret while using that medication to treat my ADHD. i truly feel like she just lost it with the impulsiveness.
When they said he was dead, i thought they were able to save him. That hit so hard. That poor boy. His poor mother. This poor girl. She genuinely , for whatever reason she was driven to do this, seemed to have an out of mind experience and wasnt her normal consious self until after. Imagine how terrifying it would be to suddenly snap to reality realizing you did this when its not reflective of your true feelings or memory. Terrifying. Nothing good to come from this at all.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking too. Like after you commit a crime like that you’d probably feel completely outcasted out of society. It sounds horrific that no one would know or believe your true story of what happened in your head, and are forever to be judged by their painted picture of who you are.
I have a dissociative disorder from childhood sexual abuse. Years ago I blacked out for weeks and came to missing 5k out of my savings account, I got kicked out of one of my classes for low attendance, I had track marks all over my legs and I had texts from some guy implying a relationship. The guy tried to get into my dorm after a week of not responding to his calls or texts. I was too overwhelmed trying to get a straight picture of what I'd been doing while dissociated/trying to put my life back together to even think of entertaining this stranger but to him I was his girlfriend that was ignoring him and displaying super out of character behavior. It is not fun. I haven't dissociated longer than maybe half of a day since then but there's always a possibility I could lose months of time and have no control over it.
