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Saad Haddad
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Here are some book recommendations I have personally used in my studies as a composer. These books are geared those interested in learning more about music theory, score study, instruments, 20th century music, microtonality, and Arab music.
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Kostka, Tonal Harmony: shorturl.at/aIJP6
Starer, Rhythmic Training: shorturl.at/kuQTW
Dandelot, MANUEL PRATIQUE POUR L'ETUDE DES CLES - NOUVELLE VERSION (BLEUE): shorturl.at/lnpM5
Bach, Chorales 1-91: rb.gy/n4a6qz
Bach, 371 Harmonized Chorales and 69 Chorale Melodies with Figured Bass: rb.gy/emfvdu
Adler, The Study of Orchestration: rb.gy/ifrtk2
Hill, Extended Techniques for the Horn: rb.gy/lkgmzq
Dick, The Other Flute: rb.gy/wz2f9p
Stone, Music Notation in the Twentieth Century: A Practical Guidebook: t.ly/YJd2ec
Kostka, Material And Techniques Of 20th Century Music: shorturl.at/csuw3
Barbour, Tuning and Temperament: A Historical Survey: t.ly/cJoP9
Wyschnegradsky, Manual of Quarter-Tone Harmony: t.ly/r0xVK
Baklouk, Classical Riqq Technique: t.ly/jJ9b9
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00:00 Intro
00:10 Music Theory
02:54 Scores
03:45 Instrument Manuals
05:48 20th Century Treatises
07:35 Microtonality Treatises
09:39 Arab music

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@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
This is just a sampling of some of the hard-copy books I had lying around my bookshelf that I've used over the years. I would be very curious to hear what kinds of resources you would add to this list! ✨After many requests, I’m finally offering a way for you to receive FEEDBACK directly from me on your work. Click in the link in the description to learn more.
@markusboyd4834
@markusboyd4834 4 месяца назад
I’m curious if you have explored partimento or schematic theory made popular by Gjerdigen? I tend to apply those principles in my work, but their topic coverage tends to be lacking in 20th century textbooks.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
@@markusboyd4834 no! Any books you recommend?
@markusboyd4834
@markusboyd4834 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic I saw one other commenter on this video mention them: partimenti by Sanguietti and music in the galant style by Robert Gjerdigen. I feel sometimes that many view developments in music theory as a linear progression from older traditions, perhaps similarly to how the sciences build upon knowledge. In music, this would assume that theoretical developments from historic practice (serialism, for example) are progressively part of a directional flow of knowledge towards a more ideal state of development. Rather, I’m simply inclined to view artistic movements in art (whether romanticism, serialism or baroque) as expressions of culture that can not easily be compared against each other, unless the two have an expressed overlap (ie late baroque to early classical). I’m curious, Saad, what you think about this. Clearly you are a proponent of more modern schools of practice, whereas I tend to delve into dusty ideas from three centuries ago!
@oliverdubon5438
@oliverdubon5438 4 месяца назад
damn you really got that doctorate
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Did I forget to mention that?! 🤣
@SuonoReale
@SuonoReale 4 месяца назад
All great recommendations. Another great book is "Techniques of the Contemporary Composer" by David Cope. It's great in that there are a ton of assignments at the end of each chapter with enough limitations so that you don't feel overwhelmed by the immensity of potential decisions otherwise. Also, "Composing with Constraints" by Jorge Variego is quite good when dealing with lack of motivation or "writer's block."
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Haven’t heard of either but I’m sure they’re great- anyone else read either one?
@SoundsFromSound
@SoundsFromSound 4 месяца назад
​@@saadhaddadmusicYes both are incredibly inspiring books! 🤙
@NjabuloPhungula
@NjabuloPhungula 4 месяца назад
That Douglas Hill book on the French horn is fantastic. I found Vincent Persichetti's "Twentieth-Century Harmony" very eye-opening, and crucial to my developing my own approach to harmony. Would highly recommend it.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
I love the horn book so much I can’t overstate that enough! And looks like I need to check out the Persichetti, too thanks!
@charlesgaskell5899
@charlesgaskell5899 4 месяца назад
The Persichetti is about 70 years old, so it should be called Half of Twentieth Century Harmony 😊
@gexahedrop8923
@gexahedrop8923 4 месяца назад
and for Arab music probably would go with "Inside Arabic Music" by Johnny Farraj and Sami Abu Shumays (although I haven't read it much yet)
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Oh yes and his Maqam Primer online is accessible as well! Great rec. as well as his YT channel which demonstrates him playing the violin.
@frushe9177
@frushe9177 4 месяца назад
Thank you for this video Saad!! Really useful
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
🙏🏽
@asch251
@asch251 4 месяца назад
glad you finally made a book video! I think I remember asking for it :)
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
I made it because you asked! ;)
@davidyoung6331
@davidyoung6331 4 месяца назад
A good resource for music engraving is Elaine Gould's "Behind Bars", published by Faber Music, for which she works. Came out 10 years ago and is probably due for a second edition. Much more comprehensive than prior music notation books. Expensive at about $100 but worth it if you want to learn proper notation.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Absolutely 🙏🏽 read it myself a while ago! Checked it out for free at the library 🙈
@matthewburns4947
@matthewburns4947 4 месяца назад
That's true, but it can be a bit limited to the Faber house style. I think best is a good combination: Gould and Stone, but also Music Notation: a Manual of Modern Practice by Gardner Read. That Stone and Read are out of print breaks my heart, but they should bat most uni libraries, one hopes. I do love that Read includes a section on Manuscript Techniques. The art of handwriting music hasn't gone away, but its education is hard to come by these days. EDIT: Orginally wrote Read Gardner instead of Gardner Read, oops.
@davidyoung6331
@davidyoung6331 4 месяца назад
@@matthewburns4947 I agree with 99.9% of "Behind Bars" because that's what I see in Henle, Barenreiters, Peters, etc. But I disagree with 0.1% (or perhaps more like 0.5%) because Behind Bars is Faber house style, for sure.
@carolinek312
@carolinek312 4 месяца назад
That's an amazing book!
@charlesgaskell5899
@charlesgaskell5899 4 месяца назад
I disagree, it's a lot broader than just faber house style. Since publication, it's become an instant classic, and a "must have" for anyone engraving their own or other people's music.
@ViolinistWilliam
@ViolinistWilliam 4 месяца назад
Love this. So thorough and an incredible resource! Love the Briggs treatise as well.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
And of course you recognize some familiar things in there :P
@igordrm
@igordrm 4 месяца назад
I started studying music pretty seriously only about one year ago. I engaged in Schoenberg's Harmonielehre and it's been a fantastic journey. Schoenberg takes us through a journey of his insights into how the music "rules" developed throughout the centuries into the common practice of harmony, which gave me a strong feeling of knowing what I was doing while writing chord progressions. I studied it to exhaustion through almost half the book and decided to give a pause before diving into modulation. The reason for that is because I felt I knew a lot already (really knowing how to write 4-part harmony on major and minor modes is something that most in the music industry out there probably have no clue at all - which is fine accordingly to what each one wants with music), but somethings were missing (maybe they'll be addressed later in the book, but I had to connect some dots). For instance: OK, I can write smooth and compelling chord progressions, but what are the implications of writing a specific chord (according to its function) on a specific beat of a specific meter? At the same time I was studying Schoenberg's Harmonielehre, I also started to study his book on counterpoint. I also checked Alan Belkin's and Jacob Gran's RU-vid channels (which I recommend) to have more info on the subject. I did a lot of exercises on the 2-part first species counterpoint and really felt I was grasping it, but I decided to pause before moving to the second species. Why? While studying counterpoint I got a lot of insights on melody writing (there's much more science there than first meets the eye), and I felt a need to go further on the subject. Until now I've found immensely valuable information about it in Walter Piston's Counterpoint, and Alan Belkin's Music Composition: Art and Craft, but the book that I'm digging into now on that matter is Nicholas Baragwanath's The Solfeggio Tradition. But, as I always loved Renaissance music I turned my attention to modal counterpoint, which I'm learning from two books at the same time: Thomas Benjamin's The Craft of Modal Counterpoint, and Peter Schubert's Modal Counterpoint. The reason why is that the authors address how it's a perfect start for learning the overall counterpoint since Baroque's polyphony will build itself upon the tradition. (I'm very interested in having good control over every aspect of a musical piece, then I'm giving special attention to pitch hierarchy and how pitches of a melody behave differently depending on where it's placed on music's pulse). A book that has been great in putting together all the pieces is William Caplin's Analyzing Classical Form. The book deals with all those mentioned aspects regarding melody, harmony, and meter. So right at the start of the book, the author categorizes harmonic progressions into three different types - prolongational, sequential, and cadential. So, one thing is knowing how to voice lead a harmonic progression in four-part writing, another thing is knowing where to place each harmony depending on what you want. He goes into deep detail on melody as well, relating melodic phrases to harmony and rhythm. But I think the great value of this book is that gives the tools for the composer to write big lengthy forms, which can be daunting with no prior study. I'm also studying Job Izjerman's Harmony, Counterpoint, Partimento: A New Method Inspired By Old Masters. The XXI century has witnessed the revival of partimento through the works of Guido Sanguinetti, Rosa Cafiero, Robert Gjerdingen, Peter van Tour, and Job Izjerman. I've found Partimento very fun to study, and its knowledge builds upon harmony and counterpoint hand-in-hand, so we don't need to learn harmony in one place, counterpoint in another, and then try to figure out how to mix things and see what happens. I'm waiting for Amazon to deliver Richard Cohn's Audacious Euphony, and Grosvenor Cooper & Leonard B. Meyer's The Rythmic Structure Of Music. As soon as I have them in hand I will look for an opportunity to share my impressions. One subject that I'm really interested in is chromatism, but all those works will properly deal with them. There is a list of books I believe are worth a look at: Arnold Schoenberg - Harmoniehlere (Theory of Harmony) Alan Belkin - Music Composition: Art and Craft Nicholas Baragwanath - The Solfeggio Tradition Thomas Benjamin - The Craft of Modal Counterpoint Peter Schubert - Modal Counterpoint William Caplin - Analyzing Classical Form Job Izjerman - Harmony, Counterpoint, Partimento: A New Method Inspired By Old Masters W.A. Mathieu - Harmonic Experience David Huron - Sweet Expectation: Music and the Psychology of Expectation David Berkman - The Jazz Harmony Book Mark Levine - The Jazz Piano Book
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Thank you for your insightful comment! A lot of stuff I hope folks see and dig into!
@igordrm
@igordrm 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic Don't mention it! We are even! I got to know you through Carlos Lalond's channel, and I'm grateful for that! I look forward for the "music of the future" and I instantly felt that you are giving us your share on this always evolving and never ending path! You are not only exploring music boundaries, but achieving results that are beautiful through your creativity! Huge respect! Thank you for sharing such great knowledge with who also aspire to make their living from their passion for music!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
@@igordrm that was a fun interview! Carlos is a very curious guy and I was happy to oblige to be on his channel!
@luisfernandomurillo3631
@luisfernandomurillo3631 4 месяца назад
Wonderful video. Thank you!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
🙏🏽
@pierrebohemond7558
@pierrebohemond7558 4 месяца назад
Big Thanks!!! Great video! 😊 I have to get few of these books!!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
🙏🏽
@Nonononono213
@Nonononono213 4 месяца назад
Amazing video thank you very much !
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@guotesuoze
@guotesuoze 4 месяца назад
I have Schönberg's Harmonielehre sitting on my shelf, hoping to read it fully one day. The stuff I read in it so far is really cool. I also like Daniel's Kontrapunkt.
@goodshepherdyouthmissionve1334
@goodshepherdyouthmissionve1334 4 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for your very suggestion !
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
🙏🏽
@thomascohen9924
@thomascohen9924 4 месяца назад
Very useful! Thanks. And it broke back some memories--when I saw the cover of Rhythmic Training! I remember using that book as an undergrad in the mid 1970s!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
It’s such an underrated skill IMO!
@renatochacon289
@renatochacon289 4 месяца назад
Great video as always :)) Can you please recommend one on advanced techniques for the strings 🙏🏼
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Does anyone here know a book on this?
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 4 месяца назад
A fantastic little resource is Nicolas Slonimsky Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns. Sometimes you just need a *thing* and this has helped me loads
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Love this one as well!
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic those Melodie’s and scales are everywhere hiding in plain sight
@Labratas123
@Labratas123 4 месяца назад
very helpful❤❤❤
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@davidcarter3049
@davidcarter3049 4 месяца назад
Thanks for this great video..I’m wanting to start composing but I’m unsure what my influences are at the moment and what skills to develop to create a relevant piece of music. Something that I really liked in your video is using instrument manuals as reference - the idea that you don’t actually have to have a detailed knowledge beforehand..I’ve been reading Stravinsky’s Poetics of Music.. he says his starting point for writing a new piece is always to be very clear what he doesn’t want in the music and not to worry so much about what he’s actually going to write (I guess a specific commission helps)..he also talks about the importance of dogma - having something you really believe in..I find this interesting as he’s a composer whose music changed quite radically throughout his life..I personally found reading books by John Cage fascinating when I was younger…he opens you up to thinking about sound/no sound in a really fresh way..being empty of the past and allowing the create process to come out of life..at the moment that doesn’t help me thinking about “what is the actual material I want to use to create a piece of music I havn’t heard yet?”
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
No one is really sure what their influences are until they write a bunch of pieces. It took me years and years to finally figure out what I wanted to do with my “voice”. You just gotta start! :) thanks for your kind words. Glad it’s useful.
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Месяц назад
I used Tonal Harmony in college. My professor made a modification to the chord progression chart (adding vi to V).
@pablobear4241
@pablobear4241 4 месяца назад
Can you make a video that focuses more on books about fundamentals before the 20th cenutry?
@karenchencomposer
@karenchencomposer 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much. I am applying for a composition degree now. I know more about what to do now.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 3 месяца назад
Awesome 👏🏽
@ThatcherNelson
@ThatcherNelson 4 месяца назад
The Tonal Harmony books are great
@LukasVlcek
@LukasVlcek 2 месяца назад
Hi Saad, I really like your channel. Please keep it up! Now, I would like to ask you about Jazz harmony. It is perfectly fine if you say it is not your thing, but still, I would love to hear your take on it. Especially if you have any recommendations for jazz harmony books. It seems to me that jazz harmony is considered a parallel world by classically trained composers and teachers. Even the vocabulary seems to be different. I would understand that historically the jazz genre has a distinct roots but going forward there will be more and more musicians and composers that do not want to live in parallel worlds. Is this something you are thinking about? Is a jazz harmony something you study and want to take inspiration from as well?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 2 месяца назад
I love jazz but I’m not the most qualified to speak on it!
@DodiSena
@DodiSena 23 дня назад
"Music in the Galant Style (2007)" and "Harmony, Counterpoint, Partimento (2018)"
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 22 дня назад
Awesome, I don’t know those 2, can anyone else vouch for either one ?
@CameronWattMusic
@CameronWattMusic 3 месяца назад
That book with the Arabic rhythms looks fascinating. I was surprised Iannis Xenakis' Formalised Music didn't get a mention in regard to 20th century treatises, it is a treasure for the composer (provided that they are familiar with the mathematics, that is!).
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 3 месяца назад
Can anyone else here attest to the Xenakis here? That’s cool - and the rhythm book is my go-to, it’s amazing!
@ericleiter6179
@ericleiter6179 4 месяца назад
Saad is there a particular book or treatise that you recommend about polytonality???...perhaps a few instructive scores to check out?, or is it covered well in one of the other books you mentioned?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
for stuff like this I always go straight to the sources: Concord Sonata by Ives, and I would even go to a certain extent to Ligeti's Piano Etudes which also has polyrhythms... (!)
@andrewknippenberg761
@andrewknippenberg761 4 месяца назад
Is Fux’s Study of Counterpoint still in use? Also are you familiar with (and would recommend) Harmony and Voice Leading by Edward Aldwell?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Honestly I have my counterpoint book somewhere but I don’t remember if it was that one 🤣 - and has anyone here read those books mentioned?^
@hijackbyejack1729
@hijackbyejack1729 4 месяца назад
Fundamentals of music composition by Schoenberg is incredible. And know that it is about tonal music, not atonal.
@unclouding
@unclouding 4 месяца назад
Other than reading these texts, are there any exercises you would recommend doing to get better at applying the theory and write more creative/colourful harmonies and melodies in composition? I find I gravitate too much towards very conventional chords. Thank you for all these resources!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Try copying out as many aesthetically diverse scores as you can by hand and playing them back on the keyboard - that is a crazy fun way to get in a composer’s head
@unclouding
@unclouding 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic Thanks so much for the tip!
@user-jj8kg5ef2t
@user-jj8kg5ef2t 4 месяца назад
@@unclouding This is where BACH earns his place. Memorize his 371 (one of my mentor could do that, and encourage me to do so too..... i only memorize about 50 of them)
@jonathanwingmusic
@jonathanwingmusic Месяц назад
Yes, Tonal Harmony is indeed controversial. Seems people either love it or hate it. As my very first theory textbook, I'm in the camp that hates it haha. My main issue with it is how dry and dense the writing is. I found I constantly had to google to figure out what they meant, it has a "software manual written by the engineers" kind of vibe for me. Shortly after I found a book called Tonal Harmony in Concept and Practice by Allen Forte and while reviewing the contents they cover basically all the same topics, for whatever reason Forte's book was like a veil had been lifted for me - the writing is more terse and approachable yet clear, and he includes tons of exercises at the keyboard + sight-singing along the way. Sadly no longer in print but it's a great book!
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Месяц назад
Interestingly, it was the book my Theory I and Theory II professor used (he made one change to the chord progression chart, allowing vi to V as an acceptable progression). Personally, I found it useful.
@lnd3159
@lnd3159 4 месяца назад
Would you be able to recommend any books that cover the compositional process/method itself, such as Schoenberg's Fundamentals of Musical Composition?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
I’ve never read a book on this myself. My go-to is to study a s***load of scores and make my own inferences. Others might have other recs though that have helped them! I would be curious if there are more contemporary examples.
@SuonoReale
@SuonoReale 4 месяца назад
I have read Schoenberg's book and it can be quite dry and it puts the musical examples at the end of the chapter so you're constantly flipping back and forth between the text and the examples that he is referring too. I recommend Alan Belkin's composition book over the Schoenberg book. However, Kevin Ure's book "The Elements of Music Composition" is really good in that it explains how you can break up musical ideas into their constituent parts, modify them, reassemble them etc to give a sort of gestalt unity to your work while also providing variety and contrast.
@gerardzelaya
@gerardzelaya 4 месяца назад
In the category of "extended techniques," do you have a recommendation for the violin and the bass guitar?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Does anyone here know books on these topics?
@forbiddenfursona
@forbiddenfursona 4 месяца назад
THAT EDITION OF MUSIC THEORY BY KOSTKA IS IN MY SCHOOLS LIBRARY 😭😭💖💖💖
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
There you go 💫
@zonzdecart
@zonzdecart 4 месяца назад
nice!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
🙏🏽
@gexahedrop8923
@gexahedrop8923 4 месяца назад
i think Kyle Gann's book "Arithmetic of Listening" is great for microtonality
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
His insights on microtonality have been very helpful to me too!
@bombi8709
@bombi8709 4 месяца назад
id love to know what your thoughts are on persichettis book, twenty century harmony, since i was thinking about buying a copy
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
I have not read that one! Anyone else recommend this?
@Dovith
@Dovith 4 месяца назад
Yes, Persichetti’s book it’s simple but it’s full of gold inside. Its a book that you ether like it or hate it; why I don’t know! I personally like it a lot.
@ericleiter6179
@ericleiter6179 4 месяца назад
Yes the Persichetti book is rather thorough and helpful...at least to me anyway! The exercises and suggested listening at the end of each chapter was extremely helpful and enlightening to me
@Marklar3
@Marklar3 4 месяца назад
I haven't read Tonal Harmony in over 10 years, and I'm not really aware of the discourse around it, but I hold a grudge against it because it misled me to thinking that certain chords are supposed to go to certain other chords through their chord flow chart. I haven't yet found a book that I would recommend to every beginner though, and it does handle a lot of basics very well. Out of the books I know, I'd probably suggest Roig-Francoli's Harmony in Context as an alternative.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 3 месяца назад
cool! I don't know about the Roig-Francoli's Harmony in Context -- does anyone else?
@clasesdepercusion
@clasesdepercusion 4 месяца назад
Cool, Don't forget that rhythm is the structure of music, "the book of movements" has 14 volumes of rhythmic movement patterns! for all musicians
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Don’t know that one cool!
@ctd.
@ctd. 4 месяца назад
Omg, I didn't know that Dandelot should sing with melody. We use it for only cleff reading
@KinkyLettuce
@KinkyLettuce 4 месяца назад
question Why kurt stone's book over Elaine Gould's behind bars? Unless you have that too but only in digital form
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
It’s not one over the other. I have read Gould’s book cover to cover while I was at Juilliard- they had it in the library! Great resource as well. Gould’s is more general than this Stone book.
@guerinopanfili6
@guerinopanfili6 4 месяца назад
Dear Sir, would you address in a youtube video a scenario where a composer abandons real world representation and reluctantly embraces synthetics due to the lack of audience, musicians, interest… Which digital programs would one be directed toward if the composer does embrace microtones and extended techniques when one only has Finale and a Mac Air? Respectfully, Guerino
@spb7883
@spb7883 4 месяца назад
What is your primary instrument?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Sibelius :P
@spb7883
@spb7883 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic Ha! Seriously: I ask because your story about being required to sight-sing may seem unexpected for people who would think such an ability would be a REQUIREMENT to enter Juilliard.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
@@spb7883 it’s not a requirement at all - composition majors at Juilliard don’t need to play anything - although we did have to test out of keyboard skills class if we wanted to get out of taking that class (which I did, but my level of piano is very intermediate level, no where near the conservatory student level)
@spb7883
@spb7883 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic This is useful information because I think there are a lot of misconceptions about musicians’ abilities, especially relative to their education level/where they studied. When I entered my first master’s program (jazz history, but you needed to be able to read music), I thought most musicians with a bachelor’s from a prominent music school would be excellent sight-readers. How wrong I was!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
@@spb7883 well I was not 🤣 but many were.
@thirstnhowliv9740
@thirstnhowliv9740 4 месяца назад
Thanks Saad! I'm not sure how relevant the book, Contemporary Harmony - Romanticism through the Twelve-Tone Row, by Ludmilia Ulehla, still is, to readers today, but it really helped broaden my horizons as a young music student in the 1990's. It helped me fill a gap between what I had learned in music theory and what I was hearing in Jazz and other styles of music at the time.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Cool! Has anyone else read this? I haven’t myself!
@kevingermain
@kevingermain 3 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic yes! I use it all the time. Her explanations seemed to ring true for me, so I guess I like her methodology.
@alleyway3215
@alleyway3215 4 месяца назад
Why do you think the Tonal Harmony book by Kostka is controversial?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Oh just in general the idea of learning 4-harmony and rules of that nature… you can go down Reddit holes if you’d like I’m not gonna explain that here 🤣
@BsktImp
@BsktImp 4 месяца назад
Can anyone comment on _Behind Bars: The Definitive Guide To Music Notation_ by Elaine Gould (ISBN-10: 0571514561; ISBN-13: 9780571514564)? Who or what level is it aimed at?
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
It’s quite broad - good for beginner composers/arrangers/engravers and those they have been in it a very long time.
@pseudotonal
@pseudotonal Месяц назад
I have the first edition of Adlers book. It's crap. I bought and studied it thoroughly and wrote in the margins all the sloppy mistakes and downright incorrect information. Then when I took a course in orchestration, the instructor assigned this book for us. I took my copy to him and showed him that it was an inept work. The following week he told me that I was exactly right: the book was crap. I don't know if Adler improved it, but you'll be better off using the old standby Orchestration texts. I like the Kent Kennan and Donald Granham book a lot. I also got all the U of California Press's contemporary instrument series.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic Месяц назад
Earliest one I got my hands on was the 3rd edition. Not sure what the previous two were like.
@pseudotonal
@pseudotonal Месяц назад
@@saadhaddadmusic I ordered the first edition before it was published because Adler told me to when he turned me down to study at Eastman. It was unbelievable that he had created such a faulty product. He told me on the phone that it was the best orchestration text ever written! Hahahaha. Thank you for spotlighting all the awesome books. These kind of technical books, with their musical examples, are so exciting to read and study.
@azdruval8536
@azdruval8536 4 месяца назад
Interesting the fact that these books are NOT Composition methods in terms of “How to” they are actually just Books of theory,or works from others composers. Makes me think that at the end of the they the best way to learn composition is just paraphrase in the sheet the work or musical concept of others🤔
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Score study score study score study - absolutely
@loulasher
@loulasher 4 месяца назад
No counterpoint? I guess I should be thankful.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
I couldn’t find my copy 🤣 but it exists somewhere…
@dankg55
@dankg55 4 месяца назад
I love the iconic Aldwell & Schachter's Harmony and Voice Leading (5th edition). It can be quite technical sometimes but it's incredibly complete. One can extract from it very interesting ideas that transcend mere practical difficulties. I only miss one thing: a book that focuses on the "why" that lies behind every concept of music theory. The Aldwell & Schachter talks about it from time to time and when it does it's very brief. It's not the purpose of the book, it's not a complaint about the book. But I really miss that aspect. I think it's the elephant in the room. It's the most important thing and hardly nobody talks about it. Edit: If anyone has any book recommendations, it will be greatly appreciated!
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Cool! Another one I haven’t read. Wonder if anyone else has?
@user-jj8kg5ef2t
@user-jj8kg5ef2t 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic A & S Harmony and Voice Leading is quite academic (aka, dry and uninteresting)
@PianoStudioNancy
@PianoStudioNancy Месяц назад
Dandelot is not to sing, just to read faster an faster... thanks
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic Месяц назад
Also that yes
@PianoStudioNancy
@PianoStudioNancy Месяц назад
@@saadhaddadmusic Excuse me sir, but it's not "also" but only read aloud, to learn how to read fast, not to sing or play, with the practice of reading on the instrument to follow. This manual was designed exclusively for this purpose and has been used for dozens of years in french conservatories (developing reflexes for reading notes aloud). This is not a singing solfeggio manual
@user-ns6ql1dt2k
@user-ns6ql1dt2k 4 месяца назад
So many books, so few composers.. Did Mozart read any of them?
@AjStillabower
@AjStillabower 4 месяца назад
Ear Training 😢
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
#waynegang
@AndreyRubtsovRU
@AndreyRubtsovRU 4 месяца назад
...and no book will help talentless one
@gonzoengineering4894
@gonzoengineering4894 4 месяца назад
Talent is a lie the lazy tell themselves to feel better about not trying
@loulasher
@loulasher 4 месяца назад
I was just go to ask about a book on that topic, uhmmmm, ... for a friend.
@saadhaddadmusic
@saadhaddadmusic 4 месяца назад
Andrey; my wife Ambra knows you from RAM - she says hi ☺️ and don’t worry about the books
@AndreyRubtsovRU
@AndreyRubtsovRU 4 месяца назад
@@saadhaddadmusic 🥰
@user-jj8kg5ef2t
@user-jj8kg5ef2t 4 месяца назад
"Tonal harmony" ---- yes, very contraversial. Why not Schoenberg's Theory on Harmony, or Hindemith's Traditional Harmony (book 1) and Advance Harmony (book 2). I also recommend Arensky's book too. Those familiar with Russian school will use (quite conventionally) Sporvov.... (something like that, i cannot recall those cyric language)
@Marklar3
@Marklar3 4 месяца назад
While I like Schoenberg's Theory of Harmony, it's probably not a great introduction to theory for most people. It's very verbose, and somewhat unconventional. Although I love the freedom it allows for, especially when compared to "Tonal Harmony". I've only read some of Hindemith's harmony, but it does seem like a strong candidate. I haven't read Advanced Harmony, but the sight singing book Ottman co-wrote with Nancy Rogers is very good, so I'll need to check it out.
@user-jj8kg5ef2t
@user-jj8kg5ef2t 4 месяца назад
@r3I agree. Schoenberg is very very advance, definitely not for first year undergraduate..... (But then, this is a list for composer, presumably not undergraduate)
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