I've been a rider since I was 14 (68 now). I've had a few encounters with full patch guys including full members of the Hells Angles and they were nothing like they're portrayed in movies. Like I said, I've rode bikes forever. Once when I was a real kid (teen) had bike trouble in the middle of no where. The Angles were headed for a big rally and a large group (50 or more) were going past when 5 peeled off the rear to help. I didn't know anything then (early 70's) and these guys stopped to help. It was my carbs and because I was going up a mountain, the carbs needed adjusted for the air. Not only did they get it synced and set, they gave me some tools for my box. How darn cool was that. Super friendly and didn't have to help me but did. No cameras around then but I'd loved to have gotten some pics from them. The next time was benefit for a kid that loved Harley's and had posters of bikes and bikers all over his hospital room. Somehow one of their chapters found out about him and came up to give the kid a jacket, rag and engraved wrench. He was never going to be able to ride but they made it as close as they could with a miniature Harley replica . They also left a nice donation too. These guys do good things too. They have rules that they follow and we need to follow. Never disrespect them and they will never disrespect you. I remember being at a vintage auto/bike show where this guy was selling rockers and 1% patches to people that didn't know what that meant. Don't ever wear a state rocker or 1% patch on your jacket. That's at a level of disrespect you may not want to cross. Some full members may be okay with it and just tell you to wear your jacket inside out, or put it away, but others may not. Just remember. You see a biker bar with a load of road hard bikes parked, don't think it's a chance to make new friends. Just get your beer and remember who's world you're in.
As a Retired Military I can defiantly understand why this Organization wouldn't want just any one wearing their Colors. We call that STOLEN VALLOR and I completely understand their Position
My cousin was a Marine back early 70's, combat vet. When he got out he gave me one of his khaki dress shirts. He'd taken everything off of it except the stripes (corporal), guess he just forgot. I was 14 and wearing militaria back then was big in my school. I was wearing the shirt on the boardwalk of a local beach while with some friends when a guy came up to me, showed me his badge and said he was an undercover cop. He asked me if I was in the Marines and when I said no he said "then take off the shirt". I never wore it again.
Cops are inherently anti-freedom, whereas biker clubs are the polar opposite. Another point is the cops break the oath they swear when they begin their careers, whereas biker clubs see their oath as sacred, being caught breaking that oath for a biker isn't going to end well for them. The cops call themselves officers but few maintain that standard, maintain because they do break their oath so liberally.
The angels won't deny known facts, will probably little for any minor bits of fake info As with most these it's respect more than anything, you would be surprised how far respect and etiquette often will go with serious people
In a strange way, the Angels are essentially an honor-based closed society, the kind of society that would be right at home in medieval Europe. "Honor" can take many unusual forms.
I have friends that were HA prospects and then mbers of another club. I tell you, the stories told by the female friend of mine, who was married to a member of another MC in the 80s are very different than this. The women are basically used as slaves, to clean and for sex. If youre married to a met, or have kids with one, you will be at the top of the pile, and can order other women around. But your man can beat you and treat you like garbage and thr other men dont care. Also, my friend who was a prospect in the 80s said it was the same for women who hung with the HA. I dont know about the drug rules either, because these friends of mine where total meth addicts. So, i think there are some differences in what was put out in the book, versus reality. OBVIOUSLY! 😂😂😂
Things may have changed, but Hunter Thompson rode with the angels, got drunk and stoned with them and was considered a friend. Then one time he told an Angel that he shouldn't beat on his woman - the guy turned on him, and in the "All on One" part of their Creed, they all joined in and beat the crap out of him. His book is a good read.
I’ve never known a Hell’s Angel but we know a lot of bikers & they are some of the most giving & friendly people. If someone is in need they’ll be the first ones there to start a fundraiser or donate their time.
Not that I'd ever consider becoming one, but I couldn't help but wonder when the narrator stated that they'd never accept as a member anyone who had ever sworn an oath to another organization...so no former military among the ranks?
I wouldn't be surprised considering how difficult it is to join if people just started making their own Hells Angels vests, patches, and leathers, and then saying they are legit Hells Angels.
I knew an old hippy named Gary that was at Kent State in 1970 when they had the shooting. He was a hard core drug user during the 70s and 80s, and so he crossed paths with Hells Angles back in the 70s. He witnessed their initiation once. They beat the hell out of the guy and then took him outside the bar. They had a hot dog connected to a motorcycle battery. They connected the other cable to the guy's leg. They bent him over and pulled down his pants a bit and slid the hot dog into the crack of his a$$! ZZZZZzzzTT!!! He said "they'll do that and then want to call these people 'brother'??? WTF". Also it's not true that it has to be exclusively Harleys. There were some that ride old Triumph and other British manufacturers that have been highly customized as choppers.
While MC chapters of various groups have a baseline, they can be very individualized in how they operate day to day. Its kinda like how you get 6 weeks of training to do a job the 'right way' then hit the floor and realize that location has a few things quirked based on management and employee mentality. At the end of the day, if you encounter an MCer they will probably be respectful, firm, and wanting to go do whatever it is they're doing and not bother you. Some might help ya, others will pass you by. Charity drives for causes that pique their interests are common. Community action is common. They will generally try to give a nice front to the public and they are very close knit. But if you're labeled expendable or a threat it's best to leave the area. For every nice thing they do in public eye, there's generally a bad thing behind the scenes when it comes to these groups. The truth of that statement will vary, some MCs are more casual in that they just wanna ride and have camaraderie but when you get to the 1% and the MCs that directly support them you get into more dangerous waters. Then of course chapters will change over time as the seniors age and fresh people come in. Maybe a chapter did guns and drug trafficking in the 90s but are mostly clean present day or vice versa. Thus you gotta be able to read the room and stay situationally aware.
Well, they were right about HD's being shit. Coz they are. Slow acceleration, low top speed, really poor power to weight and power to capacity ratios, too heavy, poor manouvrability, poor fuel consumption. Poor electrics and poor reliability. Nothing good to say about them, other then American made.
Buddy of mine has a Sportster from the mid-1980s. He told me that the clutch plates of modern Sportsters are about half as thick as the original on his bike (which he hasn't had to replace). Plus, a lot of modern HD components are being made overseas, too.
The local "Hottie " in 1961 NJ told me she was going to join the Hells Angels on graduation (if she did?) anyway she was sex on wheels toni M, for sure ,never gave me the time of day .Saw her back in NJ about 3 years later. Wow,she walked and talked like a wind up zombie with vacant eyes .That was sad, what ever happened to her must have been traumatic .Ruined for life .He father intimated she would date ,I ran away .
Not accusing anyone of anything, but people who are above and beyond when it comes to helping other people, usually have alternative motives, im not saying there arent amazing humans who truly care but the greatest atrocities ever commited tend to always come from the ones you least expect.
@@TheEchidnaKid why would i go to there washed up club house I have seen many groups of bikers and today most of them ride on weekends and were suits Monday threw Friday just like most of the hells angels ..it is not 1986 anymore ...everyone is armed and will defend them self that wants to unless you live in NY or California
@@TheEchidnaKid they are not this all mite group that can storm in to a small town and do what ever they want like they could in 1986 nether the bike gangs of today mostly do good work promoting positive things in places now doing rides for charity and the old heals angels are gone for the most part
@dexter2433 from SWIM being a business partner / associate in one of the Australian chapters in the last ten years. They are very nice people, if you're on their good side, they are still no joke. But I agree to an extent, its not 1986 its different times and so they operate differently... they are still a prominent club and not to be fucked with.
Nope. California WWII vets in 1948. HA was a P-40 squadron of the Flying Tigers that were based in China. But, there was also a HA group of the 303 Bomber Group based in England.
I would imagine most of this is common sense mixed with bull shiza. You have to be voted in in just about every MC. The process to be a member you tout is BS for sure. Watch one of the documentary you stole your videos from to find out the real deal. Its my understanding HA's never used property of patches. Many clubs do but this club does not per George Christie. SMH at least attempt to get it right if you are gonna make a video on it.
@@-Stickyfingers- California WWII vets in 1948. HA was a P-40 squadron of the Flying Tigers that were based in China. But, there was also a HA group of the 303 Bomber Group based in England. One or the other.
A person's choice in terms of cult membership tells you many things about that person, and it is generally bad news. Choose very carefully (e.g., look what has happened to the MAGAs)
This week, the head of the Hell's Angels cleaned up and appeared in Trump's court trial to support the defendant. Strange bedfellow for a former President and candidate.
YA WHEN i WAS A YOUNG LAW ABIDING BIKER i FORMED A CLUB THAT WAS NOT CRIMINAL IN NATURE BUT WAS NON THE LESS NOT TO BE TRIFFLED WITH. We were known as the "Heck's Angels" AND WE RODE MOTOR CYCLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
Oooh, cooome oon! They are not some "mob on wheels". They arey are "image-savvy", though and they are no "thugs" - plenty have degrees in Law or Business and know how to conduct themselves to further spread their image further! ... "world-wide"! ... Few MC's come CLOSE to the succes they had.
I've ridden Japanese bikes since 1975. I'd never buy a Harley but I would not mind owning one of those Indian motorcycles which are a close cousin of the Harley bikes.
the Indians are real neat. We have one that needs some reconstruction and parts cleaning. She could start some years ago but now needs work since she was in storage for years.
