14 Differences Between Metroid Prime Remastered and the Original - Part 2 

Jeez, there's only *20 years between the 2 games* you know - easy. 🙄😂 The Gamecube was a Beast. Now let's see the Switch up against a current rival; let's go easy on it and compare it vs re-Mastered Spiderman on PS4 Pro. 60fps mode allowed only. 🤭

@@netweed09 I know but that’s such a cool way to show a change rather than cover the model swap in a bright light. It adds a little extra transformation flare that you wouldn’t normally see in the early 2000’s.

@@CraftyScotty99 I mean ,, Ok I guess? But those are the nice touches & details We expect when paying $40 for this - that may be part of a $120 Triology of remakes really soon. Ouch. I might pick up Prime 3 if they do re-Master that but eh,, Nintendo tsk please just reveal Prime 4 on the Switch 2 for Us - I'd pay $120 just for that instead!

@@netweed09 They'll probably make remasters of both Prime 2 and Prime 3 before they get to Prime 4 to give us dometging to hold us over until then.

​@@netweed09prime 3? The worst of the trilogy

A lot of the differences Looygi Bros shows for Metroid Prime Remastered are just hardware limitations and how a better console let them make it better.

except beams no longer light up surroundings, and the reflection inside the helmet is much worse in the remake. A couple other small things. I will still play both versions, the remaster is not definitive in my eyes although its better than most.

Except for the Fusion suit

The remaster also tells that the original was absolutely gorgeous for its time. They must have been pushing gamecube hardware to it's limits to make the original metroid prime.

@@iceloveanime I can believe that.

Or she's had enough narrow escapes to know that she might not have time to start the ship up if the planet's exploding

Well, she doesn't leave it either. One of the pirate logs mentioned they've tried locating her ship ever since her occurrence was made aware. The ship cloaks itself and relocates occasionally as to avoid detection, capture, or worse destruction.

@@kainekelly8853 Guess she skimped on that feature for her Prime 3 ship considering how easily Ghor found it and wrecked it.

@@AICW That's very true. With age comes less wisdom.

​@@kainekelly8853 indeed. It has a AI built in.

Yeah would have been nice to have an option to turn that off

I'm glad I'm not the only one who hated it despite how realistic as it looks

I don't like it either, but it's one of those things I grew to tolerate.

i don't know if im right but looks like the resolution was downscaled when using the thermal visor so the blur helps to hide that low resolution (i assume that is it because the thermal visor make the game go slower in the same resolution)

True

Moded unreal engine 2 before most of the competition even had it.

​@@123OGNIAN MP dont use a moded unreal 2, is a engine 100% made by Retro called RUDE. By the way, this false information was denied by Retro itself a long time ago, I don't know how there are people who still replicate this

@@lucaspereirahmj I meant the gamecube version. Indeed it used unreal engine 2 ( which little later on became the standart for that generation) . Some of the files of the game, the naming convention give it away as it uses the unreal engine naming for files .

@@123OGNIAN no dude, the original MP dont use UE2, is in house engine that retro studios made of scratch, there is nothing about UE2, research about it and you will see.

@@lucaspereirahmj Stop spreading lies, Jesus christ. You just won't learn!

I noticed something different about the thermal visor, but struggled to explain exactly why. This video shows the motion blur, and makes me wonder why they added something that makes the game worse.

@Matthew Tjeerdsma It does look very cool and realistic! Until you actually play with it for more than a minute, now I realize why literally no other game has gone for this style of thermal vision.

Yea I honestly liked how the beams lit up dark environments as they moved through it

Yeah, it was the same with the Devil May Cry HD remasters, a RU-vidr did a good job outlining how effects like this after image on certain attacks were missing. The Metroid Prime remaster has a lot of good improvements,.and had other things that seem either overdone (Samus's glare was just fine on the original without rubbing your face in), or not to my taste (The hud bouncing just seems unnecessary, and I prefer the original hud design)., But I'm also a gamer who saw what bad graphics really are, and the fact is I could play a PS2 over composites on an HDTV and find something to impress, so I think visual fidelity has left me behind. I can appreciate all the advances in an abstract way, but I'll never really feel the difference between playing Dead Space on the Xbox 360 and the Remake on a PS5 on more then a superficial level. I sometimes wonder how many gamers (Actual gamers, not devs who understand the details) actually do get something out of it who haven't read the dev notes or seen comparison videos with game journalists telling them exactly what they are looking at

I missed it too. Was watching Speedrun on Remastered.

They better make the boost guardian a tad bit easier if they remaster prime 2.

@@cpctheshinymew5381 fuck no. play on an easier difficulty or get good

@@cpctheshinymew5381 it’ll be built on the trilogy engine if they do so

@@cpctheshinymew5381 And make the Spider Guardian easier too! And put a new save station just before you fight him!

I was told it’s happening, by people who would know. 👍

I've looked into this myself, since reactive beam illumination seemed like a pretty huge atmospheric detail to cut. The general consensus seems to be that - given the hugely upscaled textures and overall graphical load of the game compared to the original - that processing those beam lighting changes on the environment in real time would just be too demanding on the Switch's hardware, and would result in the games' framerate taking enough of a hit to be deemed unacceptable. Thus, the effect was regrettably cut.

​​@@BoltFraction Lol thats just wrong, the missiles, super missiles, plasma beam, boost ball and power bombs all cast dynamic light. You can even use a hacked Switch to monitor the GPU usage durring live gameplay and find there is always enough headroom left to implement dynamic light from regular beam shots too. This is not a hardware limitation issue, its something else.

@@The_Ostrich Weird. If what you say is true, then it's absolutely bizarre that the beam lighting was removed. Seems way too glaring an omission to be honest oversight. Maybe it was causing something to bug out that we just don't understand yet. Perhaps we can hope it'll be patched back in come the future.

@@BoltFraction Yop, those lighting effects would put no strain on the system, even if they came with dynamic shadows, but which seem to be not a part of anything in the game. So just light sources without shadows or nothing to make the Switch bother. Also thinking about the 20 years older original game on weaker hardware being able to do it, why would you think it's demanding for the Switch? Texture resolution makes no difference in calculating the effect, only the complexity of models, if shadows are cast and the resolution of those. We wouldn't even ask for shadows, so bare lighting, that eats up no mentionable processing power, is more than appropriate - so yes, it seems illogical, that they cut it. It was either some (weird) artistic decision, or maybe it truely caused some problematic glitch in the code at some point and so they cut it. But I really miss that lighting, the far improved visuels get dragged down again without this lighting.

Same thing go for Samus Aran gave a small hop before literally JUMP off the floor to activate her Double Jump/Space Jump. In original, she just hauled her arse off the floor, no small hop.

I noticed that too. Kinda prefer the original animation for that. But that whole battle is so cool in both versions.

I have the suspicion, that they left it out, because it seemed like pointless effort to them. Because let's be honest, the original one was cheap and unnecessary. I guess they didn't want it to look cheap again, so they had the choice of putting unreasonable work into it, or scrap it. I don't mind them scrapping it, because it's not worth really more than a little chuckle.

@@marcfuchs6938 That's fair, but then they also omitted the reflection in that one area of Phendrana Drifts too...

@@Tephnos With graphical fidelity comes a sharp decrease in performance when considering reflections. Reflections are one of the biggest hits to performance in a lot of games hence why they usually have a setting for them. In this case, there are so few reflections it probably seemed like an unnecessary additional hit to performance and unneeded work for so little return.

that is so sad...

That actually kinda sucks

The remaster got rid of a lot of visual obscurity the original game had. People aren't talking about this barely at all, maybe they can't really see past their own excitement, but I immediately noticed and it kinda turned me off to the remaster a lot. The fog, the moody darkness you had to strain your eyes to make out anything in... it's practically all gone and replaced with lighting that makes the game seem closer to a generic Unreal Engine sci-fi game than tne Metroid Prime I spent long days of my childhood playing.

If you're referring to the first large room you encounter in the labs-the one with a bunch of large cylindrical moving beams-then I think you're mistaken. In the original, that room only fills up with fog/steam after the power in the lab has been cut, which is also the case in the remake. The first time you go through there (when the cutscene with the drone plays), there's no fog on either version.

@@ds777-lu4kj ahh yes, you are indeed correct. My memory has failed me… Although there are still minor graphical differences in terms of what’s missing, just not to the degree as I thought. Still one of my most cherished games I played.

Meta Ridley also had an even rarer glitch in the original version of the game where if you ball boosted into him and that hit took his wings out at the same time then he'd start ground pounding the arena.

Okay, I think I was a victim of this glitch as I was stuck in Meta Ridley fight with Dolphin :D Even though I used save states, used all my missiles (almost maxed out), got it to show the weak spot and used super missiles, it didn't die :D It even flashed like when taking damage but kept at nonexistent health throughout multiple trials :D Then Prime Remastered came, I played the game through again and beat Meta Ridley on first try :D

This may be a thing that they may not be able to patch in depending on how the world lighting was done. Baked lighting is wonderful as far as power required for it is concerned, but it really does sap away flexibility.

It actually exists in the game but the range of it is massively reduced. Say if u shoot parallel to a wall by standing next to it, it does light up and travel across.

@@Daigon95 I'll have to look carefully, thanks for the tip.

Maybe projectile lighting is in the game, it's just a lot less noticeable because the remaster is way brighter than the original.

which is funny considering the gamecube kept all that ambience and still ran at 60 fps on hardware designed over 20 years ago.

@@jellyfrosh9102 GC was the most powerful console on its gen and It showed in games like Prim. It's a shame that It sold bad because of mini-dvds scaring potential consumers and developers.

This was actually in the original as well :)

@@lyndi26 oh cool, I haven't played the original since I was kid. It was fun to go back to it after so long

I agree. Very small, minuscule downgrades for a superb game.

Honestly. Most lighting is improved. The lens flare effect removal I could believe is a deliberate choice. Her eyes aren't camera lenses and her visor shouldn't hinder her vision so much. Plus makes it harder to see the actual surroundings. Losing the mirror seems more sad.

Actually, I'm glad for the reduction of some of the lights, because I mainly play in the dark, and such light effect could make it hard for me to look at my screen

@@FFKonoko Removal of lense flare is 100% intentional. Early 2000's games loved overusing that lense flare effect and its aged poorly. Almost every game that got a remaster or upscale from that era has removed it.

you know you can get Artifacts as you go along with the game, right? no more long backtracking.

@@TheShiningEnergy still had to backtrack for 100%, which I’ve never done for this game

@@burra007 oh right. well, for that, you do.

@@TheShiningEnergy you can't get all the artifacts without backtracking. A good handful of them are strictly end game items

I clear the original long ago. Echo was the only game I couldn't beat until Trilogy came out.

I can't confirm for Prime and Echoes, but in Corruption you could 100% see her index finger flex. I was looking for it in the remaster also

That was Prime 3. :) What youd see in Prime 1 is her Hands being the shape of the Beam symbols

It was a Trilogy change. I like the original more but people thought that it didn’t match her style

@@quadraxisdominator7364 Yeah, she went like, "EWWWWWWWW... *raised arm-cannon* Oh, Phazon Suit! Yay! *aiming arm-cannon to the side*"

@@quadraxisdominator7364 It was a change to the Japanese Gamecube version (the PAL versions are based on Japanese Prime 1). The version that Remastered can be said to be *most specifically* based on is the standalone Japanese New Play Control Wii version, which was the basis for the Trilogy version

No, that was in the OG. I'm playing it right now with 1 energy tank so I hear it a lot lol

@@knightomv man, it must've been way too long since I've played lol

@@knightomv was it in Echoes or Corruption?

@@Rundas045 MP1, but I'm pretty sure it carries over to the other two. Granted this is the wii version, but I don't think the wii version *added* features

@@knightomv I guess I just never let myself get that low on health in any of the playthroughs that I actually remember details of. The game came out when I was 8 and my dad helped me play through, and the only reason I heard the heavy breathing is that I'm helping my son on his play through on the Remaster. Full circle.

Aside from the fact that she wears a super high-tech alien visor, sun glare like that is just simply unrealistic, which is why I would say they toned it down. The reflections were probably removed due to performance issues. Reflections always come at a high cost especially with the quality of modern graphics. The old one, despite a cool thing, looked very bad. I would also suspect that a vast majority of people didn't even know that was a thing, like myself, so why sacrifice performance and time in remaking it?

Amazing graphics for it's time and still look good to this day

You could see the hand in the original as well. I think it also was animated to different poses for each beam as well.

​​@@GBDupree it is also in the remastered, I guess in all version you can see a glimpse of her hand that makes the same pose as the beam icon

I agree, but I think one of the silliest animations, they kept. When she receives a weapon upgrade, this animation is just stupid. Far better the sequels.

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A role model

She does! Just need to wait a while, lol

@@neko_knockoutShe does it but only with the classic buttons on (thats cool tho)

@@Thechozochampion THECHOZOCHAMPION!!!! I've been seeing you everywhere under videos covering Prime 4 ^^ By classic buttons do you mean the GC control layout? If so, I agree - that's a really cool detail :b

I think it is meant to be a simulation of your eyes adjusting. You can notice it when you look up at the sky and back down again that there's a brightness adjustment. Looks pretty neat IMO.

naaaaah