Definitely had a “Well, duh, that makes sense” moment while watching this one. Seeing it happen is somehow completely different than having one disassembled and explained. Great vid!
At the end of the video, I felt like I could do that (if I had that tool)... But I suspect that's because he makes it look so stinkin' easy. This is a fascinating series...
I had the same "Well, duh, that makes sense" moment, just like you had, as a result of this new lockpicking video/series by LPL. As a "visual learner", a term that was applied to me all the way back at a grade school parent/student/teacher conference, I realize today that the term is not only fitting, but also accurate, where I am concerned. What a great video this man has created for us! Thanks LPL! Fred
"Seeing it happen is somehow completely different than having one disassembled and explained." Naturally. You meant "naturally", not "somehow". Because it's like that with everything. Naturally ;)
The explanation was amazing as always, but he's right the view could have been better. I have a practice disc lock where everything's clear but the discs, basically.
Comparing it to the cutaway view of the pin tumbler locks, in the tumbler lock, you can see what the pick is doing when it's moving the pins. In this, the discs are blocking the view of the pick.
Reminds me of a quote regarding the design of the space shuttle external tank: "That big tube down the side was officially called a "systems tunnel", which is aerospace contractor speak for "big tube down the side."
I've learned two things today - what it looks like when picking a disc detainer lock, and that I'd like LPL to consider a second career narrating audiobooks.
I came here to post the same thing. I knew it had rotating discs, but had no idea how it worked until I saw the cutaway with the discs and the side bar. This type of lock always had me puzzled. Not any more...
I was looking for a name of this kind of lock for a long time. It is super hard to unlock compared to pin tumbler locks. Now i am more sure that no one is going to steal my bike when i have this kind of lock 😁 I am begginer at lock picking and managed to pick pin tumbler padlock with 5 pins under 25 seconds with paper clips. So i guess locking with pin lock would take 5 seconds for someone to steal my bike 😂 This way it takes bigger tool and little more time so less chance that someone is going to try to unlock my bike 😂
It really is, at first I was sceptical because it's not possible to see the pick, but the movement on the disks was more than enough to really understand how the picking goes
LPL's commitment to not wasting his viewers time combined with this new Inside Perspective series he's been doing is reaching an incredible level of efficiency when it comes to helping understand lockpicking. I have enjoyed his videos and started to gain an understand of the order of steps, but this video really expanded that understanding by leaps and bounds in under 4 and a half minutes!!
That was strangely, extremely satisfying to watch the false gates go to true gates. Must be satisfying to feel it happen as the person picking the lock
Seriously, this “inside perspective” series is the best, most informative series of videos you’ve ever made. I have learned so much more about lockpicking with this series than I have with your other videos. Thank you so much for posting them!! Kudos!!
When you turned all of the discs clockwise, it immediately clicked why you do this on every lock. I know you've explained it in the past, but seeing it makes it make way more sense.
@@aspuzling Maybe you are not stupid, you just have a different way of thinking about things. Maybe you understand enough of how it works already, or at least enough to satisfy your own feelings about it.
that woud require also coming up with not only ways how to defeat locks but also how to PREVENT them from being defeated and highlighting ones that are making the picking difficult and not explaining in detail how to bypass even those that are tough to beat ... man is epitome of "it only matters if i could, not if i should" ...
I wasn't sure what I expected from a disc detainer lock, but it wasn't quite this. I definitely didn't know about the bar that moved, but I didn't know what would be in there. LPL, I have to say that, even if I'm not a lockpicker, I absolutely love your videos just for the sake of curiosity and I especially love this Inside Perspective series you're doing. It makes all these locks make sense now on how they work and it's just super intriguing. Thank you for making these, especially with such a soothing voice.
I believe they're usually the same construction as typical pin locks, but built in a different direction. Pin-in-pin would be another story and very hard to cutaway. At least the first pin in a dimple keyway is often easier to see when picking than with a standard pin keyway, because they're not as paracentric. Some don't have warding at all, with the keyway being completely rectangular.
This really helped to visualize this! Thanks! I feel like I should learn how to pick these, as so many bicycle locks here in the Netherlands are (usually Abus) disk detainer core. For example, my son lost his bike keys and we haven't been able to use his bike for a week. :( Also, people say I sounds like you but I'm not hearing it.
I bought a big Abus disk detainer D lock from a bike store last year - cost me £50... Now everyone can find out how to pick it from RU-vid 😭 LPL is going to be the Park Tools of bike thieves...
@@MonkeyJedi99 cutting the bike kinda destroys the bike... I have a D lock and I'd say that if I locked it to an object, then you'd need an angle grinder or a plasma torch. Both would attract a lot of attention. Picking a lock, by contrast, is a lot more discreet. I wouldn't trust chains or a steel cable lock. But one thing I like about Abus, is that they make a lock holder that attaches to the frame, so you can keep the lock on the bike frame when you're not needing the lock. Some competitors do the same, but I'm not sure I've seen Kryptonite do it - could very well be wrong, but no bike store I've seen sells a Kryptonite lock that comes with a frame mount.
@@vaska00762 I suppose I have been jaded by videos of bike thieves in action in dumps like NYC. The one time I had a bike stolen was WAY back in the 1970's in Phoenix, and back then a simple mild steel chain was the norm. I found my chain cut, and no bike. After that, I only owned bikes I built from junkyard parts (though tires, tubes, pedals and seats were something I had to usually buy). I think my most expensive bike built that way had about $50 sunk into it. $55 if I painted the frame.
Funny, I just watched one of your videos, then was about to click on this one, and I was thinking of the similarity (and differences) between your voices and narration styles! Offhand, I think you both have deep, resonant voices, and similar intonations and pauses. But different pitches and timbres. BTW, I love your work, NJB. Learned about Strong Towns from you, too. Thanks so much, and please keep it up!
Love this series. We're all used to hearing you describe what you're doing but being able to see what's happening inside along with your description is so cool.
Finally! Now I understand what happens inside. Now there are only two things needs further explaining: What is zero cut, and how you decide if a lock is tensioned from the front, or from the back.
"Zero cut" - as far as I can tell - means that the "unlocked" position for that particular gate/tumbler is the default (or "zero") position, so it doesn't need to be moved / shouldn't be moved to release the lock. On a linear spring tumbler lock with a "sawtooth" key specifically (apologies for any/all incorrect terminology), the "default" tumbler position is the full height of a blank key, where it has not been cut back at all - hence the term "zero cut".
@@Insan1tyW0lf Close, but backwards. The zero cut pin/disc needs to be moved the farthest to release the lock. A DD key is a rectangular piece of metal with cuts in it to allow the key to move different distances before engaging with the disc. No cut (zero cut) engages the disc immediately. So, when he uses the tool to turn everything fully clockwise, it's the same as using a blank key; all the discs set for a "zero cut" are already in position. Maybe LPL will disassemble a DD lock to show the different discs. I know Bosnian Bill did that quite some time ago.
@@JamieStuff I think he meant it doesn't need to be moved from the context of picking, when you've already rotated all the discs and got them in the 'furthest' gate
I love this series. I'd always wondered what these locks looked like being picked. It really clears up what things mean when you are narrating a lock picking scenario. Thank you.
Never would've thought that picking these means using a tool *inside* of the keyway to put notches on the *outside* in a correct position. Excellent explainer.
That's also what the key does! It goes inside the keyway and puts notches on the outside in correct positions, then turns the entire disc pack to unlock.
Very helpful. I had been misinterpreting what you were actually accomplishing by turning all the disks at the start, and so was somewhat confused by it all the times you showed it in the past. Thank you.
I've really been enjoying this series. It's easy enough to understand the mechanics of picking a regular pin tumbler lock with all standard pins, but anything more complicated than that is much easier to understand with the visual aid.
LPL you had already taught me so much, and then you started this series. You've brought what was already a very informative channel to the next level. Thank you for challenging yourself and finding new ways to teach us.
This man really just said to the lock security stagnation: 'Fine, i'll do it myself!' And did it. Educating the world about how locks work, to ensure that the problems are fixed eventually. Better late by a hundred years than never
I've watched hundreds of your videos, got the pick when you partnered with Sparrows on it, and still never understood the knack for these locks until JUST know. Thank you.
This helps out a lot. I didn't grasp the concept before: that when you spin everything to the right, you in essence pick the disks in reverse from the key rotation.
I think this is the best type of lock out of all in the market because It take very special tools and very precise pick locking movement. Thank you for sharing.
I've been watching you do this for years, and this allows me to understand just what is going on. The concept of a false gate and true gate is much clear seeing this cutaway view. The mechanism of the lock is much simpler than I imaged, not to imply it is easy to pick when you don't have a view like this.
Thank you very much for these cutaway videos. I had a loose idea of how Disc Detainer cores worked, but seeing how the gates engage with the sidebar really sealed the deal for me.
This is so amazing to see all the movement while you pick as well as your brilliant explanations paired together. I truly believe that I understand the concept of lock picking due to your inside series of videos. Much love and respect
I love this Inside Perspective series you've been doing! Just simply seeing the mechanism and how you actually work with it helps a ton in comprehending what's actually going on inside. I'm excited to see what else you decide to show us :D
I love the fact that you managed to demonstrate the workings of a disc detainer lock, while still working in all of your memes and tropes of picking them!
So happy the time I decided to subscribe was right around the beginning of this series, especially for the instance of showing somebody your content for the first time who doesn’t know anything about how a lock works. Fantastic!
Amazing cutaway. Everything makes sense now. I finally understand what a false gate is. LPL, you are an amazing teacher. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I'm not even halfway through the video and just seeing how the key works inside the lock has explained so much of what I was wondering how the disc detainer locks work since I've never really been familiar with them until I came across this channel Really appreciate these inside perspective videos because it makes lock picking a lot easier to understand
This series is above and beyond the call of duty. These will be used in locksmith schools for the rest of time. They will probably inspire better locks as well.
So good, most underrated series of all time. Should have millions of views. I finally understand these locks and picking, compared to how the drawn pictures say it's supposed to work. Thanks again.
You explained it extremely well, I had a hard time picturing how the lock worked. Now if only Sparrows shipped "The Pick That Bosnian Bill and I Made" to my country... *sad lockpicking noises*
Fascinating and really cool!! This makes me want to go back and watch some of the older videos on this type of lock. I can't recall seeing you pick a lock like this without the tool you designed.
The pick of the New York Legend 1515 is a good pre-“the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” video. So too is the entire series of when they made the pick.
I really love these "inside look" videos. I have gone back and rewatched some of your older videos and now they make a lot of more sense to me. Now that I have seen what all the terms mean, I can picture what you are doing whilst picking. Please make more of these, they are great.
I have never been able to imagine what must be going on inside a disc detainer lock (and have been too lazy to look it up). This video is incredibly clear and helpful.
This video helps so much, I now understand how these work and what it is you are doing when picking. This series is the best so far in furthering my understanding of locks. Cheers LPL
I think the view was good and I very much enjoy these types of videos as I like to see the mechanics behind how locks works. Thank you for another great video!
That was absolutely fascinating! I've watched every video you've put out, some more than once, and I have to say this was probably the most revealing one that you have posted - at least for me. I've known how pin tumbler locks worked, at least in general theory for as long as I can remember. Even before I got into watching lockpick videos, which started way back in Bosnian Bill's early days when one of his clips popped up in my feed, it was something about a banana... but, this one really demonstrated the workings of the disc detainer locks very well, and I really had a poorer understanding on how they worked. Thank you very much for all the work you put into making your videos. While you make it look easy, please be assured that the vast majority of your viewers know that it takes hours beyond counting of practice, and paying very close attention to even the tiniest details in order to achieve your level of skill, and we very much appreciate you sharing it with us.
Agree with you totally. Well said. I think this is my favourite video so far. A lot suddenly makes more sense to me now, & I can appreciate more what LPL is doing in his other videos. I'm actually tempted to give these disc detainer locks a go now, even though I still am pretty unskilled at pin tumbler locks & still learning. I've never even had a disc detainer lock, and was rather confused by them. Excellent video. Spot on comment for what I was thinking too.
Thank you! This series helps not only in understanding what you're doing in your videos, but how the different types of locks work in general. Never had an clear idea, how a disc detainer lock works until today.
What I found most interesting was that Disc Detainer locks actually function just about exactly how I thought they did, never thought I'd actually be right :P
Perfect explanation and no more cut away needed. My only lock knowledge is from watching your videos and I followed this one every step of the way. I understand so much more about disc detainer locks now! Thanks LPL!
Each one of these revealing videos is worth 100 of the older ones where you just kinda talk our way through them. Being a very, very visual thinker, when you show what's going on in 3 dimensions I see it all in perfect clarity. Thanks. 💜
Really useful video. Bought a cheapo book on lockpicking recently, its definitely helped with the basics, mechanics, and the history, but I really appreciate videos like this. Four minutes of my time that sticks with me a lot longer, and I don't have to pay for the honor of having all the tools here to get the basic understanding. Thanks LPL, you're a saint taking the time to put together videos like this for us.
Thank you! This answered many of the questions I had regarding these locks. It also helps present a mental picture of what’s really going on, and it instills even more respect for your ability to figure this out without a cutaway example from which to learn.
These inside perspectives are so cool. They make understanding what you're doing so much easier. I'm curious, when you're picking these cut-away locks, are you closing your eyes where you're working by feel like you would if the lock wasn't a cut-away or are you watching what's going?