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The Reasons Why Dragon Ball Super (DBS) Is Better Than Dragon Ball Z (DBZ)
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Dragon Ball Super has had a bit of a mixed reception. From the bad animation to the strange choices and poor saga endings, the series hasn’t quite lived up to the power of Dragon Ball Z. However, there are some things it ended up doing better than its predecessor. From the humor to the animation of Dragon Ball Super Broly and how Future Trunks was handled, Super managed to show that the franchise could still be fantastic, despite going on for so long.
From the Beerus Saga to the Universal Survival Saga and everything in between, Dragon Ball Super has managed to do a lot of good, despite a lot of bad parts weighing the series down. Some examples of this include how Broly was improved, the expansion of the universe into a multiverse, the high stakes of the Tournament of Power and other sagas and how it brought back old characters like with the Golden Frieza saga and with how Master Roshi was made relevant again.
Suffice to say, while Dragon Ball Super doesn’t always stick the landing, it managed to do a lot of good, even improving on parts of Dragon Ball Z, and in this video, we list off all the examples. Check it out to see all the things that Dragon Ball Super did better than Dragon Ball Z and remember to comment with your favorites or if we left anything out. Don’t forget to subscribe to CBR for more Dragon Ball videos! Thanks for watching!
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@denniswilliams6519
@denniswilliams6519 4 года назад
Ah yes here we go~ *Gets popcorn and goes to read comment section*
@DannyFNG
@DannyFNG 4 года назад
LOL I think that it is what we all do.
@supersaiyanbro
@supersaiyanbro 4 года назад
Same
@ogloc4478
@ogloc4478 4 года назад
I gave you your hundredth like. Don’t be a douche and edit your comment thanking everyone for all the likes. That would make u gay
@wsgyuno
@wsgyuno 4 года назад
Thats exactly what i did 😂
@kovacs-qb3wm
@kovacs-qb3wm 4 года назад
loool
@Anthyrion
@Anthyrion 4 года назад
I personally liked the two first Broly Movies. The Bio Broly thing... ahhh let's not talk about that. That never happend, ok?
@LordZeroTheNightmare
@LordZeroTheNightmare 4 года назад
The first broly was fun to watch, but it failed to really make it feel like a fight. Nevermind how bad Vegeta was handled in the Z movies (epic intros, but then quickly knocked out) I always wanted to see a longer more drawn out fight towards the end when Goku was powered up enough to take him on. It left alot to the imagination. -if there was no comet, would goku's borrowed power last long enough to effecively beat broly? Could Goku have fought more seriously earlier on but decided to bide his energy the whole time cuz everytime he measured himself against broly he realized he wasnt strong enough yet... I like to think the latter, but it still woulda been nice to have a longer fight sequence at the end of the first Broly. The second Broly movie gave us the unrestricted super saiyan look of broly, as well as his huge meteor sized energy blast at the end, but it fell short in fighting even more than the first Broly did. while it did have some fighting between Broly and Gohan before Broly went Legendary, the actual fight between Legendary Broly and Gohan was far shorter than the Goku vs Broly fight was, before the final family kamehameha sequence started. Broly's lines were also drastically reduced to just screams, kakarots, and "not until you lie dead at my feet" being the only real line from him in the entirety of the 2nd movie. This movie could have passed as 2-3 filler episodes in Z, and thats ignoring the first half of the movie until Broly shows up lol. (at least the first part of the 1st broly movie was more interesting) Fully agreed on Bio-Broly, we can all agree that SSJ swamp thing was a bad idea lol. Now Im not saying I disliked the first 2 broly movies, but they couldve been so much better than they were, and DBS: Broly pretty much did ALL the things in that regard.
@Anthyrion
@Anthyrion 4 года назад
@@LordZeroTheNightmare Yeah, i always asked me, how powerful Broly really was. Was he powerful to beat Gohan when he went SSJ2 at the Cell Games? Or was he "only" a real strong SSJ who was as strong as the Androids 17 & 18? And yes, as much as i love the old berserk Broly, i truly like the new one. I think, if he could control his enormous strength, he could be a really good guy who fits into the group of Z Fighters :)
@ultragamingcom
@ultragamingcom 4 года назад
the broly movie have a better fight and music, but broly look so boring rage here and there.while dbs broly this one have many potential, and it have gud story and decent fight too
@jamescebeballos2427
@jamescebeballos2427 4 года назад
That was for goten and trunks fans. They got there own movie
@obezy8705
@obezy8705 4 года назад
Well I didn't really like the movies, nothing in super tops the frieza and android saga
@SMABackup
@SMABackup 3 года назад
Dragon Ball Z was a pure masterclass and possibly the greatest piece of television ever produced
@michaeleverett1376
@michaeleverett1376 3 года назад
True, but Super has done some things better than Z did.
@watchthis274
@watchthis274 3 года назад
@@michaeleverett1376 lol. Like what?
@folakamau9463
@folakamau9463 3 года назад
@@michaeleverett1376 shut up dude z is better just face it,i am sure u think super is better lol aka the show that thinks goku is the only person on the planet
@imdarkmonster3697
@imdarkmonster3697 3 года назад
@@folakamau9463 Don't fuck with us dragon ball fans We don't know what hell is an opinion
@vigorouslygaming5917
@vigorouslygaming5917 3 года назад
@@imdarkmonster3697 pfffffff
@Saki-Malo
@Saki-Malo 4 года назад
Dragon Ball super’s animation was actually good after the 1st two arcs
@ShadowMarcus77
@ShadowMarcus77 3 года назад
I'd say only golden frieza arc was badly animated the others were pretty good and top arc was just the best
@arandom1114
@arandom1114 3 года назад
@@ShadowMarcus77 thats so true
@arandom1114
@arandom1114 3 года назад
@@ShadowMarcus77 and thats why i like the top saga more than any saga
@marcosorozco8578
@marcosorozco8578 3 года назад
It Is because the animators are overworked
@martialjordan8225
@martialjordan8225 3 года назад
Ya but if you watch movies of those arcs u will find it way better
@jaikishanbhambhu8883
@jaikishanbhambhu8883 4 года назад
Nothing beats DBZ Abridged tho......
@alessandrobaggi6129
@alessandrobaggi6129 4 года назад
True. To me it's the default version that comes to mind when thinking about DB
@mijaroprime9509
@mijaroprime9509 4 года назад
Yes the real dbz beats
@sebastianmichaelis6974
@sebastianmichaelis6974 4 года назад
Except DBS abridged once it’s released
@airofglass7464
@airofglass7464 4 года назад
@@alessandrobaggi6129 errors have been made. guess the scene?
@alessandrobaggi6129
@alessandrobaggi6129 4 года назад
@@airofglass7464 "why... they keep kicking me... in the d**k?" 🤣
@Multi-Manus
@Multi-Manus 4 года назад
Seriously, the non-cannon Broly turned into his Legendary Super Saiyan form just because he saw Goku.
@TheUltimateRare
@TheUltimateRare 4 года назад
yeah it was so dumb, the only reason we weren't outraged, was because the movie was pretty Lit.
@Fate862
@Fate862 4 года назад
Broly already destroyed a galaxy and had the hair and power going in. The whole mental trauma and anger towards goku is the emotional driving force for his transformation. Think about the others who transformed due to emotional sadness and pure rage over a loved one. Then recall Vegeta completely giving up on being a super saiyan and screaming in frustration about it then reaching it. The trigger has been the pure emotion of mostly some form of mental rage. With Broly's potential already so large and fighting endlessly his super saiyan feat made sense. Easy explanation and you have a DB avatar, get out of here. No seriously, its a super avatar...eww...
@haroonshah9335
@haroonshah9335 4 года назад
Yyyyyyyyyyeah
@Fion355
@Fion355 4 года назад
@@Fate862 For most people, its just the fact that broly is having a trauma because goku cried as a baby.....and thats it. BABIES WHO WHERE NOT EVEN HALF A YEAR OLD! Humans dont even remember the first 1-3 years, and even if they do remember moments, they are totaly unclear on the level of "I think i was ..angry? Maybe? Dont know..." And i tend to think Sayajn are the same in that regard.
@ACM-sp1gh
@ACM-sp1gh 4 года назад
The non Canon broly was so bad ass tho and just worked so much better. He looked like a legendary super saiyan. The new one looks and sounds like a lesbonic super saiyan. I prefer the hatred for goku compared to him not knowing him at all. In the new one it's his dad's hate for vegeta, the old one his dad hates vegeta but broly hates goku and paragus can't contain him then broly kills him in a savage way. The only downfall of the first film is the way broly is killed cause there's clearly no thought put into it. Now he's gonna be a Z fighter which makes no sense
@45CdRo
@45CdRo 4 года назад
Dbz is just a plain masterpiece,,, Super, while having it’s moments just can’t compare to the pure awesomeness of akira’s best creation.
@AboTVspecial
@AboTVspecial 4 года назад
The AnimatorGuy john wick, the raid
@Dhindsakarmon
@Dhindsakarmon 4 года назад
The AnimatorGuy dragon ball z is a sequel 😂💀
@Mindless0
@Mindless0 4 года назад
It really isn't, there's a bunch of plot holes and as a show there are much better ones, the writing was sloppy at times and oh my god the pacing of it was horrendous. DBZ just has that nostalgic value and some really powerful scenes like Future Gohan's death or Frieza's death (''YOU MUST DIE BY MY HAND!'' ''YOU FOOL!'' such a sick line), either way Super is a bit better in that sense since it inplements stuff like the S-Cells, Fusion n shit
@Razzletazle
@Razzletazle 4 года назад
Karmon Dhindsa exactly, db is the goat
@brunolopes2205
@brunolopes2205 4 года назад
calling Z a masterpiece just makes you seem ignorant. People recall Z on a pedestal due to nostalgia and the fact that most people were on the younger side. If you watch Z again as an adult you will see a bunch of potholes, inconsistencies, dumb power jumps (piccolo, Goku, gohan...), zero character development other than vegeta (this one is a problem on all Db series), the lack of storytelling and repeated plot ( villain appears, they get ass kicked, they go to the temple room, train, power-up, they win). Super had a bunch of problems (a lot of them were inherited from Z) and overall Id say it is understandable that people like Z better (it's overall better) but Z was far from perfect, way too far.
@CassiusStelar
@CassiusStelar 4 года назад
Everyone else: Freaks out over Trunks's hair being blue. Me: Oh cool he dyed his hair.
@Mindless0
@Mindless0 4 года назад
Ok so, Bulma originally had purple hair but her hair color changed to blue later in the series for some reason, Trunks had Purple hair because of Bulma's original character design, but then, to be consistent with the now blue-haired Bulma, they rechanged his hair color to Blue to fix that continuity shit
@CassiusStelar
@CassiusStelar 4 года назад
@@Mindless0 OK, I know that. That was just my first reaction. (Snce that is the case, why didn't they also give Kid Trunks blue hair at this point?)
@Mindless0
@Mindless0 4 года назад
@@CassiusStelar I honestly have no fucking clue about that one, I guess they just went like: ' ''hey uh, his hair changes color when he grows up yknow uh yeah, notice how bulma had purple hair as a kid but now she has blue hair? yeah, that''
@pootis9180
@pootis9180 4 года назад
I guess it's genetic. Nothing we can do about that, right?
@joedemelfie5509
@joedemelfie5509 4 года назад
@@pootis9180 just tell your son goten we want more of him in the next series with trunks too. But he isn't your kid. Genetics whatever goku. Lucky you have the same hair all ur life.
@GSM0091
@GSM0091 4 года назад
I love how when it came to trunks, vegeta had no hesitation giving his energy away unlike the times when he's asked to give goku his energy
@coal8895
@coal8895 3 года назад
Yeah because vegetaikes trunks more then he likes goku
@mechdemon4218
@mechdemon4218 2 года назад
@@coal8895 That's obvious cause trunks is his godamed *son*
@animetime3238
@animetime3238 4 года назад
if we listen carefully this guy is giving dbz more points
@mcfly4706
@mcfly4706 4 года назад
Exactly lol originality is way better.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 4 года назад
Bardock i didn't hear him say that he pointed out what Super did more satisfyingly
@wtroupe64wt
@wtroupe64wt 4 года назад
Actually no I heard super did more with 15
@iceg6621
@iceg6621 4 года назад
Intredasting
@mariojumpman9573
@mariojumpman9573 4 года назад
@@mcfly4706 Sometimes new things are better.
@johnaldinalam2631
@johnaldinalam2631 4 года назад
I also loved how they were able to make things out of their Ki. Like that time Golu planted landmines for Jiren and stuff.. Or making weapons out of Ki. I think those were cool.
@jaydenmhlanga3517
@jaydenmhlanga3517 5 месяцев назад
Gok not golu (Misspled) happens to the best of us
@Zachary622
@Zachary622 4 года назад
i prefer the DBZ Series because the characters didn't playing around like DBS series.
@sageninja7260
@sageninja7260 2 года назад
Did play around? You didn’t see the Goku Black Arc? The Tournament of Power arc? You kidding me??
@aliserag7010
@aliserag7010 2 года назад
Black arc is fan service it was good at the start also TOP is gokusfault that idiot super goku who's a shell of z goku is selfish
@GuyChooo
@GuyChooo 2 года назад
@@aliserag7010 uhh yeah, zeno would erase the universes that aren't doing their jobs anyways so if not for Goku making the TOP to happen, the universes with low mortal levels will be erased. Also, no Goku making TOP to happen, no TOP arc sooo.
@hormoheb
@hormoheb 2 года назад
@@GuyChooo i think what he means is he prefers goku's serious tone and funny tone balanced to be honest super goku just wants a good fight while in z goku says it himself "i like to avoid fights if i can" so what they did is they completely changed gokus personality
@fattyflabs4323
@fattyflabs4323 2 года назад
@@sageninja7260 goku sucks in super lol, and even in the top arc he wasn't even taking it seriously until the end where he goes mui
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
DB: Krillin is a Fighter in his prime.👍 DBZ: He is very helpful at time by assisting either Goku or Gohan DBS: Why are you making him weak? 🤦‍♂️
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
@seraphimvalkyrin4543 4 года назад
And "super" short lol.
@miguel_1972
@miguel_1972 4 года назад
Krillin=Ssblue in Super lol
@denniswildcat28
@denniswildcat28 4 года назад
Well krillin is still human and is in his forties I’m sure age and having kids affects him differently but still is the strongest human ever.
@kwesikerr-yearwood5025
@kwesikerr-yearwood5025 4 года назад
@@denniswildcat28 I would say tien is
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
@seraphimvalkyrin4543 4 года назад
@@denniswildcat28 Technically 17 is the strongest human even.
@pizzabruh2465
@pizzabruh2465 4 года назад
You forgot that they brought back the kaioken technique
@dukkemonterier3429
@dukkemonterier3429 3 года назад
Completely ruined and without it's drawbacks.
@Zoroislostagaian
@Zoroislostagaian 3 года назад
@@dukkemonterier3429 because god ki😐obviously his body handled it better than before thanks to his super saiyan blue you dingus!!
@chriscoughs5774
@chriscoughs5774 3 года назад
@@Zoroislostagaian I think what I enjoyed about Kaioken was its drawbacks. It made fights more interesting that it was used in.
@MobyDrip
@MobyDrip 2 года назад
@@chriscoughs5774 It did have drawbacks, Goku almost died when he first used it against hit.
@nyeeeofthestarsz1804
@nyeeeofthestarsz1804 2 года назад
They brought it back in dbz too with the super kaioken
@moro-og-739
@moro-og-739 4 года назад
Unpopular opinion: “The Pilaf Gang is a fun and entertaining trio and they‘re good helpers for Bulma”
@that1nerd756
@that1nerd756 4 года назад
I share said unpopular opinion.
@moro-og-739
@moro-og-739 4 года назад
That1Nerd share?
@that1nerd756
@that1nerd756 4 года назад
@@moro-og-739 I also think the Pilaf Gang are fun and entertaining.
@dareal_yuyu9868
@dareal_yuyu9868 3 года назад
They have been fun characters since the begining, especialy in super
@moro-og-739
@moro-og-739 3 года назад
dareal_ yuyu I find them funny and they help the gang with minor things like Bulma’s pregnancy and when the time machine was burning
@Charlie-qi9rr
@Charlie-qi9rr 4 года назад
Idk what y'all were talking about with female saiyans. The way they became super Saiyan and the way their arc went is one of the biggest let downs, causing for finally having female saiyans, but them just being lame
@KIdMikie56
@KIdMikie56 2 года назад
The thing is, the U6 Saiyans were much more powerful than the U7 saiyans. In Z it seems to me there is a particular power level that must be achieved and then a triger to achieve super saiyan. Not only were the U6 saiyans way more powerful in base but their genetics were different as well. As far as the tingly back thing Im sure there would be many sensations you would feel if you could transform and radically alter your strength. Imagine being able to mutate on command. Lmfao I respect your opinion though.
@JoseGarcia-gp8ch
@JoseGarcia-gp8ch 4 года назад
I don't care how long it takes for super to return just as long as we get longer arcs and better story telling
@lllllll5990
@lllllll5990 4 года назад
Jose Garcia n new forms for other people like trunks
@endofyeww20
@endofyeww20 4 года назад
シF i n e s s i n g not new forms, people were bitching when caulifla and kale became ssj, just make the characters good
@jantheking7028
@jantheking7028 3 года назад
@@towa.m People like you need to be quiet. DBZ fans are always complaining. Back when Akira TRIED to make Gohan the main character, yall complained, so he just brought back kid goku in the form of goten, and yall STILL complained. And now 20 years later, yall are complaining about Goten NOT being the main character?
@jantheking7028
@jantheking7028 3 года назад
@@endofyeww20 I liked Cauflia and Cabba as characters, I just HATED Kale, she was so annoying and added nothing to the story besides someone for cauflia to fuse with.
@endofyeww20
@endofyeww20 3 года назад
@@jantheking7028 I really liked caulifla, but I didn't really like cabba, and I actually liked kale, I just would've preferred if they developed her to the point where she isn't so dependent on her sister, and I feel like those 3 are coming back whenever his series returns, so we can expect some real development from them.
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
No offense but here’s my reasons why DBZ is better than Dragon Ball Super: - brutally, dismemberment, and blood spilling - Videl as a badass Tomboy - Gohan grown from a scared kid to a warrior with potential - Piccolo as a more prominent character - Vegeta’s anti hero role with some badass one liners - Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin being relevants throughout the arcs, except the Buu Saga - Bruce Fauconer’s scores - Emotional and dramatic moments that makes us fans tear up. - Intense battles and destruction - Future Trunks’s muscular tone and purple hair - Pikkon and the other world combatants - Non-Canon villains from movies (Cooler, DBZ Broly, Hirudegarm, Janemba, etc) - Frieza Saga - Son Goku given a more noble/heroic role than his original continuity. - King Kai’s Training - Z-Fighters vs the Ginyu Force - TV Specials (Bardock: The Father of Goku and the History of Trunks) that are tied to the main arcs -Bardock with his green armor and his badass red bandanna.
@RvrStyxRasputin
@RvrStyxRasputin 4 года назад
I appreciate most of this, except DBZ completely undid any Gohan good with the buu saga.
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
@RcrStyxRaspytin I had that issue too. Especially Super treated his character very poorly until the Tournament of Power.
@Spiarmf
@Spiarmf 4 года назад
I agree with all of your points! Seriously, I miss Bruce Faulconer. This video claims that Super handles side characters, like the other Z fighters, better than Z handled them. But I couldn't disagree more with points like that. I really wish we could see a true return of the other Z fighters in the same capacity as we did in Z. Things like Piccolo and Kami's fusion, Tien smashing the hell out of Cell with his Tri-beam , or Gohan being considered stronger than all of the other fighters, or even just the adventures of Gohan, Krillin, Piccolo, and Vegeta on Namek while Goku was essentially MIA. Those made for awesome and meaningful moments in the series. I feel like anime writing in general is a bit too ADD these days. It often doesn't slow down to truly build meaningful moments anymore.
@NegaWarhead
@NegaWarhead 4 года назад
@@Spiarmf I agree but I feel OPM is good with that just look at the manga and webcomic if u haven't since the anime is behind
@Gargoyle_75
@Gargoyle_75 4 года назад
I clicked ‘like’ for Piccolo.
@infamousplayer8772
@infamousplayer8772 3 года назад
Honestly, one of my favorite parts about Super was the calmer moments and the conversations some characters had with each other. Bulma talking to Jaco and Goku and Jaco and that squid interacting and Goku and Vegeta talking about how they love the fiercer sides of Bulma and Chichi, with Vegeta revealing that it's because of their Saiyan blood while Piccolo is having a crisis in the background, or when Goku and 17 talked in that island before the tournament and Goku straight up said that he wasn't a hero and all that. These conversations are really interesting and it's fun to see these characters interacting like this. I feel like in Z the world was just CONSTANTLY in danger and there wasn't much time to slow things down and focus on these kind of things but Super does that really well.
@quazduke9450
@quazduke9450 3 года назад
Ayeeee nice infamous Pfp
@TheFracturedfuture
@TheFracturedfuture 2 года назад
Essentially it's more boring.
@infamousplayer8772
@infamousplayer8772 2 года назад
@@TheFracturedfuture essentially it has substance.
@TheFracturedfuture
@TheFracturedfuture 2 года назад
@@infamousplayer8772 What good is substance if it looks like shit.
@infamousplayer8772
@infamousplayer8772 2 года назад
@@TheFracturedfuture yeah sure, the first two arcs look like shit, Z didn't exactly have the best art ever either, it was just more consistent and even then looked like shit a considerable amount of time too.
@charlesart1992
@charlesart1992 4 года назад
I knew the comment section was gonna be epic after he talked down Z like that
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
Videl really needs to come back as a tomboy martial artist we all know and love
@sittingcrowd912
@sittingcrowd912 4 года назад
A.J Thomas yes. With pigtails and an aggressive personality
@idontpost9397
@idontpost9397 4 года назад
Nah i actually hated her but i think it was because she thought her dad was the strongest in the world tho
@Created.Figure
@Created.Figure 4 года назад
@@idontpost9397 that's the exact reason I didnt like her, cause I cant stand hercule.
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 4 года назад
@@tamaraanthony9762 Agreed, she was kind of annoying; still though I wish they hadn't sidelined her, especially when you consider her Goku level affinity for ki control.
@babaluplays4258
@babaluplays4258 4 года назад
I never liked Videl in Z she was rude and she whines
@carterrobb7524
@carterrobb7524 4 года назад
Master Roshi being a pervert is a thing that should not be took away
@98Supremee
@98Supremee 4 года назад
The show is clearly geared towards a younger demographic and you want them to see perversion? You sick my guy lmao
@cinemamadness6920
@cinemamadness6920 4 года назад
@@98Supremee Dragonball was suggested for 12 year old and up, and Western kids are more mature about violence while Japanese kids are more mature about sex at a young age than Westerners are, look at yourself as an example.
@marcuscaz7978
@marcuscaz7978 4 года назад
He's still a pervert, he just doesn't let it cloud his thoughts and judgement in fights anymore, he even used it to his advantage in one of the ToP fights
@davoaxwell7349
@davoaxwell7349 4 года назад
Gio Benzo That’s apart of his character dumbass
@Mindless0
@Mindless0 4 года назад
Nah he just didn't let it get to him for the Tournament of Power, that was it he didn't stop being a pervert
@hallucinationist8038
@hallucinationist8038 4 года назад
When your confused about DBZ then you move on to DBS, everything makes more sense.
@tankjackson698
@tankjackson698 3 года назад
Or maybe you would not be confused of dbz if you watch the og db
@CLSharpman5000
@CLSharpman5000 4 года назад
Master Roshi bein' a perv is hilarious tho.
@gaminghistory5080
@gaminghistory5080 4 года назад
But he couldn't fight like that
@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.
@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. 4 года назад
Dragon ball Z had alot of slice of life moments like when the 7 year time skip ended and there were those episodes where gohan went to high school,or the 10 day period while waiting for the cell games,when goku and his family hung out and went to places together
@theultimatewarlord69420
@theultimatewarlord69420 4 года назад
Jijii Y. Yeah, which is a whole bunch, and I loved it. But almost all of those was just Goku’s family. Dragon Ball Super showed pretty much a whole bunch of people’s slice of life
@malidog1182
@malidog1182 3 года назад
Legendary Warlord ok so here’s the thing in that 7year leap I was like yesss and then Gohan started putting on that stupid costume then Vedel started to show up and she’s terrible like I hate her character like then I started comparing the bad ass future gohan to that teenager bs then when he started to get serious it wasn’t the same so I just started to like trunks and goten look all I’m saying is that I miss young gohan
@airofglass7464
@airofglass7464 4 года назад
One thing dbz does better than super: being a better series
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
Nobody disagrees but super ain't that bad either
@airofglass7464
@airofglass7464 4 года назад
@@SonGoku-777 agreed. super isn't bad by any means, but (maybe nostalgia speaking) I just find z better
@airofglass7464
@airofglass7464 4 года назад
@Torris Smith Jr yeah the characters definitely felt more accomplished at least. especially when goku, vegeta and gohan went ssj/ssj2
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
@Torris Smith Jr and you think that wasnt the same with super
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
@@airofglass7464 i respect that opinion
@SuperSaiyanMaster2024
@SuperSaiyanMaster2024 4 года назад
Judging by the Thumbnail I thought this was gonna be about how it has better animation.
@joedemelfie5509
@joedemelfie5509 4 года назад
Android 17 being a good guy saving his universe was worth every bit of super being just as good as any dragon ball z material. He was awesome to see him fight and improve and not be bantha fodder for cell.
@AngelHerrera-dj5cd
@AngelHerrera-dj5cd 2 года назад
Like where were these characters when earth was being threatened by Cell or Buu?
@Nunezbeastinqqq
@Nunezbeastinqqq 4 года назад
*How dare you say something to controversial and yet so brave*
@drmbilals
@drmbilals 4 года назад
in contrast: top 100 thing dbz does better than dbs
@TheUltimateRare
@TheUltimateRare 4 года назад
wow opinions exist? It's almost like both sides are right because they are allowed to have opinions XD
@GiorgosAigio96
@GiorgosAigio96 4 года назад
okay and can you name all 100 of them? thanks
@haroonshah9335
@haroonshah9335 4 года назад
No
@anejionatana6964
@anejionatana6964 4 года назад
chocoburger senpai Normie
@thewhitedemon1988
@thewhitedemon1988 4 года назад
@@anejionatana6964 Same to ya buddy.
@AUSTIN.F
@AUSTIN.F 4 года назад
Most of the humor that he mentioned was in like, filler episodes.
@prod._J1
@prod._J1 3 года назад
The Dragon ball Super Manga is way more serious. It has a tone like DBZ
@RedShogun13
@RedShogun13 3 года назад
Let’s be perfectly clear though. #2 as described isn’t “raising the stakes” from a narrative perspective. That entire bit is just crediting super for having “stronger” foes and greater jumps in power leveling/scaling. Because to say that DBS “raises the stakes” better or more than DBZ is really hard to argue considering that’s one of DBZ’s greatest strengths. Considering the framing of Dragonball coming into Z you have things like Goku immediately fighting for for the life of his young son teaming up with the big bad of the previous series and giving up his life to do it, saving the earth from the saiyans, traveling to Namek and preventing Frieza a galactic level threat which latently becomes Goku avenging and protecting the legacy a heritage he just recently had to accept (Goku initially didn’t accept that he was a saiyan like Raditz but by the Frieza Saga he’s almost fighting with his entire race on his back Among other things). There’s a need to save the Future AND the past...to change DESTINY to save causality, Gohan has to overcome his feelings of weakness and inadequacy to save the world from Cell to become the strongest or risk losing not only his life but everything and everyone he loves (Gohan being a much more emotionally involved/attached character than even his father) and having his father’s sacrifice be in vain...not able to fill the shoes of his father who believed in him if he failed, etc. The stakes are EXTREMELY high and are gradually raised throughout DBZ on the individual, personal and literal power levels. DBS is so busy marginalizing their own characters and story it really can’t compare the the depth and drama of Z. It’s like DBS doesn’t even respect itself enough to take itself seriously as a story. It feels cheap. Not the production value but the writing itself. So many cheap cop outs and cliche anime tropes used carelessly and without thought imo. But yeah ultimately you can’t say DBZ didn’t do a great job of handling what was at stake and raising those stakes for everyone on so many different levels outside of “who is stronger than who”.
@RedShogun13
@RedShogun13 3 года назад
Also I want to add that it doesn’t help Super that they have the Beerus and Whis characters hang around who are immediately interpreted to be so strong that most of the conflict in Super could have been snuffed out without any trouble had the aforementioned two ever decided to stop being joke characters by nature and actually get involved in the fights to save everyone. Also until the narrative is adjusted slightly at the very end in the Tournament of Power the fact that from the beginning we know Goku and Vegeta have access to Super Saiyan Blue makes every and all fights where they start fighting in SSJ1 or SSJ2 feel like “this fight is a wash and Goku could easily turn SSB and disintegrate this guy if he was really trying”. It cheapens most of the fights. ToP starts to highlight SSB and SSG can’t be used for long durations because of strain which was nice but that got attention WAY too late like towards the end. For what it’s worth the pre use for ToP being a ring out free for all tournament was cool but wish they did more with it. For like half a second it made other characters that weren’t SSB level fighters relevant for a bit which was refreshing if not short lived.
@DnaturalBreaux
@DnaturalBreaux Год назад
Talking good sense to me.
@DRAXTD-bk6it
@DRAXTD-bk6it 9 месяцев назад
​@@RedShogun13nope
@33jedi
@33jedi 4 года назад
Some of these weren't bad points, like handeling Broly, or introducing female super saiyans, but here is a couple big issues I personally had with it. 1: Yes they introduced female saiyans and even super saiyans, but they picked up on super Saiyan so quickly that it seemed unearned, and then super Saiyan 2 as well. Kale was better as she has the same power as Broly, but still, it felt cheap. 2: They did in fact explain the fusion breaking, but it seems like they only did that because they realized that the fans were creating different answers and wanted to create something concrete. they wrote themselves into a hole and had to dig their way out, and while the fans had great ideas, they were tossed away because once again they wrote themselves into a hole with merged zamasu and had to dig their way out. 3: Future trunks was handled terribly, inconsistent time line problems in both z and here with Mai's age, and also the spirit sword was bs though I did like that he reached ssj2, the problem was that he was once again painted as incredibly powerful only to then become useless immediately. 4: The jokes, simply are not that great in my opinion. They seemed to take inspiration from TFS and made Goku into a bumbling idiot who thought kissing was yucky, and while we never seen him kiss chi-chi no one denied that he should have considering the wedding. 5: Speaking of inconsistency's, trunks in the main timeline is messed up as well, he is supposed to be what? 13 here. . . he hasn't grown at all since he was 8 and we seen him at this age in the special where he looked much bigger. They literally only did this to have him and Mai at the same age because of his future self but that don't make sense because that mai never got reverted and should be closer to 60 by now if not older. These are just a few issues, I have many more. Honestly while not perfect the manga was a lot better.
@silly3man15
@silly3man15 4 года назад
33jedi Damn. You hit the nail on the head i swear. Just to piggyback, I feel that Goku and Vegeta’s relationship throughout the course of DBZ and DBS has progressed in accordance to time the way it should have, therefor saying that they depicted their relationship better in Super than in Z isnt even a fair comparison. DBZ wasnt setup for them to be complete friends just yet since Vegeta was still angry at how far Goku has surpassed him in strength still. Also, idc about something being cannon or not, DBS definitely has more fillers than Z. You can literally watch “Battle of Gods” and “Return of Freeza” then start at the tournament and be caught up with the series. Tis all
@33jedi
@33jedi 4 года назад
@@silly3man15 thank you, I've been a huge fan since I started with the first episode of Dragon ball. Super is definitely filler and none of it makes any sense. Okay technique over power sure, I agree with that, but in a tornament with people who can blow up planets and even solar systems by simply powering up, Roshi, Tien, Krillin should have died instantly surrounded by all of that. C17 and 18 should have been taken out quickly. Piccolo and Gohan should have held on for a bit, but let's be real here only gods stood a real chance so Frieza, Goku, and Vegeta were the only ones that should have made it through especially after Goku reached ultra instinct and Vegeta mastered ssjb. The other seven should have been fodder, and I hate saying that because Gohan Piccolo and Krillin are some of my favorite characters.
@Riqo_Smooth
@Riqo_Smooth 4 года назад
33jedi It’s like Dbs used TOP Characters in place of the characters we know and love also. Female Saiyan are cool but why tf wouldn’t Gohan be able to get some new transformation. Why are the new characters at ssj2 painted to be stronger than Gohan and Piccolo?? Trunks can hang with Zamasu in ssj2???? Jirens backstory 🚮
@Mindless0
@Mindless0 4 года назад
@LeftTheNegotiator Yeah they mentioned that kinder Saiyans produce more S-Cells which boosts their potential to go Super, if they concentrate it all in one spot and merge it with their Ki in one big energy explosion, they'll most likely unlock super for a bit atleast. That's why Gohan had trouble turning super in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, he didn't have that rage that made his blood flow and energy burst, that was until 16 was killed and he snapped releasing all his energy. Caulifla and Cabba call it back tingles cause they're talking in a more chill, non-chalant way. So uh, yeah that's how it goes
@TheAazah
@TheAazah 4 года назад
They pick up on supersayain the same way gohan did in the the chamber. Just think of lost hurt and pain.. goku did the same thing when killin died right in front of him.
@knockoutreviews6468
@knockoutreviews6468 4 года назад
Comparing a high budget movie that had plenty of time to a normal episode with a specific deadline...lmaooo
@jp3813
@jp3813 4 года назад
They said anything from DBZ, so I guess they're also comparing it to the old movies. Regardless, it's still a positive.
@Charlie-qi9rr
@Charlie-qi9rr 4 года назад
Lol this vid had the most tilted scales wit a sjw narrator thinking the female super saiyans were anything but wasted and yeah they included broly as dbs 😐😐😐
@jp3813
@jp3813 4 года назад
@@Charlie-qi9rr SJW is purely an American term. Japan especially doesn't care about such things, thus the female Saiyans aren't a problem in most parts of the world.
@AwesomeNinjaXD
@AwesomeNinjaXD 4 года назад
@God Of Savages I thought the T.o.P. arc was around 6-8 weeks of development.
@Mindless0
@Mindless0 4 года назад
Yeah, Animation should never ever come into the equation when it has a fucking 19 year difference like bruh. 19 years between the end of DBZ and the start of Super. Oh yeah bruh Super Mario Bros for the NES is worse than Super Mario Odyssey for the Switch cause it has worse graphics Like that point makes no fucking sense whatsoever
@saltgenerat0r
@saltgenerat0r 4 года назад
"Goku and friends" whenever you say that I can't help but laugh because it's so accurate lmao.
@ilyaccount6793
@ilyaccount6793 3 года назад
dude dbz got me being nostalgic like i remember sitting back eating my cereal watch dbz goku kick ass, but dbs literally just didnt make goku care about anything, they also made their transformations copied, how u gonna tell me that ssjg isnt a cppy of goku in his base form how u gonna tell me ssjgss isnt a copy of ssj like they just being lazy
@raheebkamal5198
@raheebkamal5198 3 года назад
@@blockify5598 ah yes a show made in the early 90's will definitely have better animation than a show made after 2015
@damefame8921
@damefame8921 4 года назад
*What ruined Dbs* Goku being stupid Super Saiyan Blue is overused Who's Gohan again? No danger in death (Goku bringing himself back to life) (Master Roshi coming back to life) Goten and Trunks have no purpose Not enough strategy (just *WOW HE MAKE BOOM*) The writing is childish (Dyspo super ultra light speed mode) No blood (not asking for Gore but OG dbz)
@mattbarlow1398
@mattbarlow1398 4 года назад
Goten and Trunks are forgotten about that much in character development that they haven't even been bothered to age them 😂
@rambofan334
@rambofan334 4 года назад
"What ruined Dbs Goku being stupid" Turn in your Dragon Ball fan card now, it has been revoked.
@AlastorD
@AlastorD 4 года назад
"Super Saiyan Blue is overused" So they should go the DBZ way and make every new achievement a pushover in the next arc? "No danger in death (Goku bringing himself back to life) (Master Roshi coming back to life)" They werent really dead in the first place. And about the Danger of Death, what Dragon Ball Heroe hasn´t died at least once in Z?
@rambofan334
@rambofan334 4 года назад
@@AlastorD DameFame: No, this isn't how you're supposed to play the game.
@BlackPersonGuy
@BlackPersonGuy 4 года назад
@@rambofan334 Of course he's dumb he literally bumped his head as a kid
@hansolav5924
@hansolav5924 4 года назад
a non-pervert turtle sage? that's it, then. I'm not watching it.
@iceg6621
@iceg6621 4 года назад
True
@12shots22
@12shots22 4 года назад
what does master roshi becomes without his pervertness ? that's right the next yamcha.
@jp3813
@jp3813 4 года назад
The narrator's mistaken. Roshi only suppressed his perversion for the tournament, and nearly failed at it.
@AwesomeNinjaXD
@AwesomeNinjaXD 4 года назад
Non-perverted? This man tried to straight up force himself on Yurin, and Caway's comments (Japanese) about him are questionable.
@jp3813
@jp3813 4 года назад
@@AwesomeNinjaXD Yup, he's actually more rapey this time around.
@iplayoverwatch6996
@iplayoverwatch6996 3 года назад
I really like both DBZ and DBS. In my opinion they are on par with each other, and are good series' in their own respects
@mixedmf52
@mixedmf52 3 года назад
@TITAN VEGAS do you know what on par means?
@patrickzachinfinity8888
@patrickzachinfinity8888 3 года назад
@@mixedmf52 shut the fuck up
@lunattt4274
@lunattt4274 3 года назад
Fuck no dbs barely better than gt don’t ever put it on the same level as db and dbz 😂
@mixedmf52
@mixedmf52 3 года назад
Hey we got someone who doesn’t respect opinions here.
@mixedmf52
@mixedmf52 3 года назад
@@patrickzachinfinity8888 No I don’t think I will.
@Realletsplaygrey
@Realletsplaygrey 2 года назад
Super is phenomenal, I grew up on Z And I will gladly say I LOVE super.i love the power levels, I love the gods etc.
@SonCurran
@SonCurran 4 года назад
Dragon Ball Super definitely did not have higher stakes. Not once did I feel like things were going to end badly. Only time I thought it felt remotely close to that was during the Goku Black Arc.
@thestrong2401
@thestrong2401 4 года назад
I personally prefered the episode Goku and Piccolo learned how to drive in dbz more than all the fillers DBS showed for comedy purposes. Making Arale go toe to toe with god tier Goku and Vegeta wasn't comedy it only made them look bad. Their god forms are not supposed to be a joke.
@KIdMikie56
@KIdMikie56 2 года назад
That was one of the best DBZ episodes for sure!
@jeremiahwilson2698
@jeremiahwilson2698 3 года назад
It seems that everybody is complaining about the animation, so I'm here to clear this up: It is not the animator's fault, it was due to a short time period to animate between each episode, resulting in them putting rough drafts in place of a finished piece of animation, a lot of people will say that it's due to inexperienced animators which is not true, a lot of the animators there were actually veterans from DBZ such as, Masahiro Shimanuki, Hiroyuki Itai, Osamu Ishikawa, Yoshitaka Yashima, Hirotaka Nii, Shuichiro Manabe, Yuichi Karasawa, Futoshi Higashide, Noaki Tate, and the legend.... Naotoshi Shida! But anyways, please don't hate on Dragon Ball Super for it's animation, hate on the people that gave the animators very little time to complete the episodes.
@erikalvarez4516
@erikalvarez4516 4 года назад
I like how they coordinated more team battles. Z had a few but were mostly just one on one spars. Imagine if the Z warriors had a full out assault on the Saiyans when they came to Earth. Especially without Vegeta wanting to join in the beginning it would have been cool seeing the gang attack Napa and the Saibamen
@PegasusPablo
@PegasusPablo 4 года назад
That's definitely not the design of SS2 Goku!
@ErmacXtreme1991
@ErmacXtreme1991 3 года назад
It’s just a different image of ssj1
@neezeus7986
@neezeus7986 4 года назад
bro the time period of the animation is a major difference so animation shouldn't have been brought up
@GoblinGoodfella
@GoblinGoodfella 4 года назад
True!
@mikay7866
@mikay7866 4 года назад
There is basically no difference between the Time periods... Dragonballs Animation is still done the same way. People drawing on paper 24/7
@AwesomeNinjaXD
@AwesomeNinjaXD 4 года назад
@@mikay7866 Well, they do use CGI for aura and such, iirc. (Jiren, Beerus, etc.)
@ImPurplePup
@ImPurplePup 4 года назад
Yes it should've it sucked at the start
@DarkSerris
@DarkSerris 4 года назад
So modern cars are not better than 1930's cars ?
@youtubediscriber6438
@youtubediscriber6438 4 года назад
For my Thoughts,the only thing that is not ok with super is Everything... Its changed even the work of drawing,very poor drawing,the muscles the proportion of the budy,everything is made more shitty,when u saw songoku and others,they were painted with dignity,and with something special in it,now they all look like Some half pottatoes ... sory for my english.
@LuckyTheory
@LuckyTheory 4 года назад
Have you seen ToP arc?
@sheebify
@sheebify 4 года назад
Luta Most likely not
@atrixiumalt3880
@atrixiumalt3880 4 года назад
How about you try to be an animator for a popular series on a really rushed time schedule trying to replicate Akira Toriyama's art style for about 3500 - 5000 keyframes (which for even skilled animators could take a hour or two) for every single episode , not to mention the in between frames which smooth the animation out.
@themasterkey5709
@themasterkey5709 3 года назад
Ok so make a really good episode that copy’s Akira toriyamas art style in like 2 weeks at max and having a good story written with no V reference imma wait
@ciiss5285
@ciiss5285 3 года назад
1:43 “Another thing that Super does better than DBZ is raising the stakes” I swear to god I almost clicked off this video after I heard that
@rezwann4355
@rezwann4355 3 года назад
DBZ raised stakes everytime the same way(goku is away, friends are getting their ass kicked ,at long last goku makes the grand entry , fightt every saga its the same way stakes r raised ) DBZ is pure nostalgia but DBS (until hit comes to the scene is bullshit) after hit it really gets interesting DBS s5 is just WOW correcting the flaws it raised stakes in a diversified way not the same way again and again.
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
We want Gohan and the Z Fighters be more relevant in the future arcs. Goku and Vegeta had already had theirs moments.
@dialena4418
@dialena4418 4 года назад
@George McCrary, II they made android 17 as strong as blue and krillin could clash with them. Let alone the master roshi and frieza asspulls. They can do anything at this point
@LordZeroTheNightmare
@LordZeroTheNightmare 4 года назад
They can cook up a transofrmation for Piccolo, and some really weird stuff for tien probably lol. I mean, Neo tri beam against Semi perfect cell was still an incredible feat for his character even now, when you think about how strong characters were at that time. I def agree that we need other characters in the spot light, though Super has done that well too actually, giving us Trunks as the hero of a story that had SSGSS Vegito, and 17 as the last man standing in the ToP while Goku shared the final push alongside Frieza for one of the best fight sequences in the series next to DBS: Broly lol. I have a feeling we'll see more when the time comes.
@dialena4418
@dialena4418 4 года назад
@@LordZeroTheNightmare piccolo could have something similar to those namekians from universe 6 ( if that was the right one ) As of tien he has a ton to do with meditation... he could get some recognition from that arch angel for that ( still wished roshi got the ultra instict honestly lol )
@---Mattia---
@---Mattia--- 4 года назад
Piccolo is stronger than a SSJ2, he legit deserves more space
@kungfuhusler
@kungfuhusler 4 года назад
I want some more Dragon Ball Online story elements to start coming into play because toriyama wrote the plot for that game, plots like: Tenshinhan's New Crane School which has sort of happened in super, Kuririn becoming the master of the New Turtle School, Goten and Trunks start their own school called the Kikoukenjutsu or Qigong Swordsmanship probably inspired by Future Trunks, Gohan and Yamucha's sword use; Gohan writes a scientific book on Ki Control for Martial Artist, King Kai actually teaches the Earth's populace to use the Kaioken, and Yardrats come to Earth to teach their techniques to Earthlings now likely inspired by Vegeta and Goku learning from them. These need to happen at least after the Moro Arc.
@ermacfan657bigfan5
@ermacfan657bigfan5 4 года назад
I loved everything about dragonballZ and Dragonball Super.
@AceofSpades-nf1eb
@AceofSpades-nf1eb 4 года назад
Yesss
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
Thank you
@zeusb3127
@zeusb3127 4 года назад
Everything?? The female saiyans the teletubbies?
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
@@zeusb3127 the teletubbies were purposefully made to be hated by everyone
@ermacfan657bigfan5
@ermacfan657bigfan5 4 года назад
@@zeusb3127 😁😁😁
@rc23dp2o
@rc23dp2o 3 года назад
More, doesn't mean, better, God damn.... we don't need multiuniversal God characters jeeeez
@Pwn3r
@Pwn3r 4 года назад
Roshi liking women is "problematic"? You're why everything is so serious nowadays... its supposed to be comical.
@gaminghistory5080
@gaminghistory5080 4 года назад
Do you not understand that it was problematic because he couldn't fight with the universe because there were women warriors from other universes and he wouldn't be able to fight while they are there
@AnyaOshua
@AnyaOshua 4 года назад
This is the feminist take on DB lol CBR is a feminist mouth piece. Trying to find MeToo & Identity politics tag lines.
@cipher659
@cipher659 4 года назад
Yeah well why that cant be said about super
@lanreakerele4375
@lanreakerele4375 4 года назад
I believe that every Dragon Ball franchise is always be the best, even Goku as the main prognaist which makes the show to be intresting as a 🐐 anime character
@whymustyoudisagree9158
@whymustyoudisagree9158 4 года назад
Lanre Akerele yes gt goku is the best one
@NegaWarhead
@NegaWarhead 4 года назад
@@whymustyoudisagree9158 GT goku personality wise is one of the best especially DBS goku personality
@monte_2000
@monte_2000 4 года назад
I’m highly curious to see what these guys say. Because as of right now, the only thing I can think of that Super did better than Z is the dub translation.
@jantheking7028
@jantheking7028 3 года назад
Super did its major fights better, it does comedy better, and thats about it.
@turbotrup96
@turbotrup96 3 года назад
@@jantheking7028 the comedy was made for teenagers and lower, so the typical Anime audience, I guess the fight sequences look like they don't even belong to Dragon Ball - the animation style is way too different, and choreography could be less random and sped up
@tierraa04
@tierraa04 3 года назад
@@turbotrup96 yeah but the animation is better and more clear to see unlike z
@jugnu9a
@jugnu9a 3 года назад
Did- did this guy just say that kaioken and ultra instinct are transformations? I want whatever it is that he's smoking
@user-zz8ye7gc4r
@user-zz8ye7gc4r 3 года назад
He meant to say "Goku is now able to stack his KK on top of SSJB". Also, Autonomous Ultra Instinct is a Technique for the Gods. Mortals like Goku have to undergo a transformation in order to obtain the form. Gods like beerus can easily activate Ultra instinct at will (Manga).
@user-zz8ye7gc4r
@user-zz8ye7gc4r 3 года назад
Ultra Instinct Gods = Technique Mortals = Next Level/Form
@TwistedSoul2002
@TwistedSoul2002 3 года назад
DBS was a homage to DBZ. It’s probably not apparent on the first watch but there are many throwbacks and subtle references to DBZ.
@mcfire5047
@mcfire5047 4 года назад
They need to go into the Moro arc when they bring the anime back
@supersaiyanbro
@supersaiyanbro 4 года назад
@Jeremiah Menzie it is coming back they already confirmed super 2
@mihajlo4333
@mihajlo4333 4 года назад
Super Saiyan Bro when is it coming back?
@ahtalk9847
@ahtalk9847 4 года назад
@Jeremiah Menzie They r
@faraz_3834
@faraz_3834 4 года назад
@@supersaiyanbro When it is coming ??
@supersaiyanbro
@supersaiyanbro 4 года назад
@@faraz_3834 either this year or they are announcing a new movie this year super comes next year. They want to make sure there is plenty of manga to go off of
@nadavr6448
@nadavr6448 4 года назад
The humor on DBS was hilarious, seriously - the male love recital ?? XD And also the animation is much better on mass fights. The multiverse tournament had Many vs many while DBZ had 99% of the times fight 1 on 1 (except the movies and history of trunks). it was always something that bothered me on DBZ
@GOD_lovesyousomuch
@GOD_lovesyousomuch 3 года назад
Best opinion ever.
@tierraa04
@tierraa04 3 года назад
@@GOD_lovesyousomuch ikr his is so good
@MajedIssa90
@MajedIssa90 3 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to make this Video.Used to run home from after school to watch Dragon ball 80’s Goku anime 😄
@jimmyplier74
@jimmyplier74 4 года назад
Dragon Ball Super: Broly is the first Dragon Super movie! Battle Of The Gods and Resurrection F is Dragon Ball Z movies right?
@toffee4271
@toffee4271 4 года назад
correct
@fryer.studios100
@fryer.studios100 4 года назад
I’m assuming you missed this in the dbs movie since they were only in the background but Bardock’s gang that got killed in Z by Dodoria and those other 3 guys were seen in the background with the other saiyans while king cold was introducing Frieza. And Toyotoro drew them in their dbs outfits moments before Dodoria killed them so they couldn’t contact Bardock so I’d still consider them canon. They even had some other key moments that were offscreen from the bardock special in the dbs broly movie like bardocks fight with Frieza men outside the ship since Bardock’s armor was damaged like in the original non-canon version
@TheoryCrafter
@TheoryCrafter 4 года назад
ah the good ol days, watching funimation and having only two commercials ever playing.... bio broly and some fullmetal alchemist videogame commercial
@SIRDADDYSENPAI
@SIRDADDYSENPAI 3 года назад
Hang on, the reason Goku lost control of his ki was due to combining super sayain blue with kioken times 20 which is a risky power boost not because of a baseball match it was when universe 7 and 6 had a small tournament
@SIRDADDYSENPAI
@SIRDADDYSENPAI 3 года назад
Ultra instinct isn't a form it is a technique
@Sunflower_SM64
@Sunflower_SM64 Год назад
I agree I thought I was the only one that noticed all of these things, especially the thing about it having less filler than DBZ, I’ve always preferred DBS over DBZ
@drift4192
@drift4192 4 года назад
5:54 Ah sh-t here we go again Naruto talks about his past Edit: OMG THANKS SO MUCH FOR 75 LIKES I THAW IT WONT EVEN GET A LIKE
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
Would’ve been cool to see a Dragon Ball x Naruto crossover
@thekinginyellow7724
@thekinginyellow7724 4 года назад
Gogeta SSGSS I accidentally stopped on your comment on that scene, never had to go back.
@haroonshah9335
@haroonshah9335 4 года назад
How
@haroonshah9335
@haroonshah9335 4 года назад
Oh you meant 556
@alexxyrn8858
@alexxyrn8858 4 года назад
This man just kale and caulifla are interesting characters😂 them thots ain’t interesting
@TheBlond49
@TheBlond49 4 года назад
They are.
@omnik213
@omnik213 4 года назад
@@TheBlond49 how
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
@seraphimvalkyrin4543 4 года назад
@@TheBlond49 They pretty much break everything we know about SSJ's just so they can compete with Goku. Terrible writing and useless characters.
@johnyogi11
@johnyogi11 4 года назад
they are
@yojimpo5424
@yojimpo5424 4 года назад
I like Caulifla's approach to transformation. Rather than unlocking ssj with anger, just learn the technique.
@joshuaperry2426
@joshuaperry2426 4 года назад
This video must have been really hard to make lmao
@blazeofglory2882
@blazeofglory2882 4 года назад
Tbh the clips during the video talking about super broly. The music along with the clips you had. Made me feel like i was on some psychedelic in truth as i watched it. Half expected misssipi queen to start playing too.
@ailon92
@ailon92 4 года назад
The thing it did worse: Why and how are there only 28 Planets with mortals in the universe? Is Freezers Empire supposed to be so small?
@Gargoyle_75
@Gargoyle_75 4 года назад
ailon92 - They did not say there were only 28 planets, but 28 planets with life. Not difficult to imagine that Freezer could have asked life to be wipe out on some planets or even destroyed some.
@Pssybart
@Pssybart 4 года назад
I agree with most points made, except for the one about the higher stakes. Sure, DBS may have higher stakes on a technical level, with the introduction of a multiverse and all-powerful villains like Zamasu. But in DBZ there were a lot more consecuences to the actions of the characters. When a character got killed off, it would sometimes take an entire arc before he was brought back. The Dragon Balls were often written out of the plot in order to temporarily remove this Deus Ex Machina. On top of that, Toriyama very cleverly made Goku absent during battle as much as he could, which made the villains more menacing. DBS has a huge disadvantage when it comes to stakes. It takes place during the 10 year time skip between the Majin Buu arc and the end of DBZ. Therefore we know every single issue of every single arc will inevitably be resolved.
@98Supremee
@98Supremee 4 года назад
I agree but as the audience we all know everything is going to be alright in the end for the Z warriors regardless because the show is based of the dragon balls lol plus the writers know they can't kill off an important character because the backlash would be so unbearable to the point that they would just think of a way to write them back into the plot. Remember when Goku died the second time and Toriyama was ready to pass the torch to Gohan? Fans resented the idea. It's not about knowing that things will be resolved, that's common sense. It's about how are things going to be resolved. For instance, we all knew that Goku Black would be defeated eventually but the fan base were just wondering how and who he is. The whole Dragon Ball franchise is essentially Goku's story so in the back of our heads we know that our heroes will prevail some how so I don't think DBS suffers from that at all. You could say that it's a detrimental to the tension but that's how its always been in my opinion.
@Pssybart
@Pssybart 4 года назад
@@98Supremee I also agree with most of your points (though the part about Toriyama backing out from making Gohan the main character because of fan backlash is mostly a myth), but I still maintain that DB and DBZ handled the stakes better. Sure, we always knew things would turn out well eventually. But Toriyama, at his prime, knew how to keep his fans guessing. He would kill off Shenlong halfway through an arc, kill off Piccolo and Kami and even temporarily kill off Goku. DBS doesn't really have lasting consequences throughout different arcs. The writers could've pulled some serious mindfucks like having Universe 7 lose the Tournament of Power, only to reveal that there actually is a state of Limbo after a universe gets erased by Zeno. That way the main characters could spend another arc trying to restore their own existance. My entire point is that scale is not the most important factor in raising the stakes in Dragon Ball. What matters more is creativity and risk taking.
@98Supremee
@98Supremee 4 года назад
Sandro Algra Barradas I agree bro but I believe Super did have a select few moments like that when the viewers were caught off guard. I’d say Hit killing Goku ( even if it was momentary) was like a mindfuck because it was so unexpected, for me at least. At that time people didn’t know what to expect during the re match so it was like “ woah wtf he killed Goku ? “ but I absolutely agree that U7 losing the ToP would’ve been a complete twist and I personally wish that they would’ve went down that route but the twist at the end of ep. 130 was exceptional where we all found out 17 survived his sacrificial suicide attempt and it was like woahhh this dude is alive wtf ?!?! but you made great points and I do believe there needs to be more of these engaging moments when Super comes back if it does.
@3bay
@3bay 4 года назад
I want a Series about TRUNKS AND GOTEN, MAYBE EVEN THE OTHERS It’d still have the adults and all playing roles but it’d have them all Atleast from ages 15-18
@radiant_action0685
@radiant_action0685 4 года назад
Putting a one hour time limit on the potara, was a dumb idea because it totally shits on the fusion dance now there is no reason for Goku and Vegeta to use it ever again
@craigpeoples9883
@craigpeoples9883 4 года назад
Facts
@dontbecomelgbt
@dontbecomelgbt 3 года назад
Go watch it
@chocolatesensei5648
@chocolatesensei5648 4 года назад
I kinda wish they did more things that seemed weird for certain characters like Goku reading minds Vegeta raising rocks out of the ground
@SakuraAvalon
@SakuraAvalon 4 года назад
chocolate sensei sama i imagine that high Ki levels allow people to access psychic powers. Though, they kinda dropped this after the Freeza saga. With the exception of Freeza still doing it now and then.
@quanturiaowens2643
@quanturiaowens2643 4 года назад
@@SakuraAvalon No they don't dumbfuck they just help you use lasers and blast and shit
@neoanimefreak_7606
@neoanimefreak_7606 4 года назад
@@quanturiaowens2643 You can channel your ki into inanimate objects and move them.
@quanturiaowens2643
@quanturiaowens2643 4 года назад
@@neoanimefreak_7606 Actually ki doesn't allow that but helps you create traps,weapons,lasers and more! Unless you're frieza, it doesn't apply to goku in any way , and also before you try to say some shit like that use actual evidence, like come on,how can you use raw power to read minds?or telekanisis ? Or even seeing through illusions? Explain that.
@neoanimefreak_7606
@neoanimefreak_7606 4 года назад
@@quanturiaowens2643 Can't read minds, but you can read a persons aura and get things off them, nothing like mind reading but yeah. And you can manipulate things with your ki, people even do it in real life. Illusions are just when you get right down to it, tricks of the mind. Just like how you can use your ki on things, you can use your ki on your surroundings.
@leastlikelysuspect5122
@leastlikelysuspect5122 4 года назад
Goku singing Cha-La
@DF9000k
@DF9000k Год назад
When he was talking about forms man showed super saiyan 1 twice and got away with it
@PatronusHelice
@PatronusHelice 3 года назад
nobody? The fusion with the pantaras is permanent, when one of two is a kai, not both, only one has to be a kai
@emmanuelreese5951
@emmanuelreese5951 3 года назад
Right the old Kai got fused with a fan witch 🧹🙆
@savagexman1993
@savagexman1993 4 года назад
The best animation in super was better than the best animation in z, but the overall animation was better in z, at least in my opinion
@infamousplayer8772
@infamousplayer8772 3 года назад
Consistency.
@chrislemon5221
@chrislemon5221 4 года назад
And I just realized this video was only posted 26 min ago
@feath1557
@feath1557 4 года назад
And i just realized this comment was only made 26 min ago
@sarahanime9947
@sarahanime9947 4 года назад
Hour ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VBqAYf2UwtA.html
@kevthejust5568
@kevthejust5568 4 года назад
1 day
@TehWhiteTiger
@TehWhiteTiger 4 года назад
I was skepticle there were this many things 'better' but I admit most of this was true except comparing a 2019 full funded movie's animation to a 1990s anime.. especially when most of supers actual animation is awful with next to no fight choreography at all.
@itsdanielrobloxroadto100su9
@itsdanielrobloxroadto100su9 3 года назад
I have a question. What is the channel to show dragon ball super?..
@mattjm2112
@mattjm2112 4 года назад
14:57 Man talk about best for Last. You’re right pal, I don’t care what anyone says. Caulifla and Kale are indeed the best thing to come out of Dragon Ball Super.
@TheUltimateRare
@TheUltimateRare 4 года назад
they are alright, I like Hit and some of the neat fighters near the end better though. those 2 girls were basically a stepping stone to show off what goku can do now, rather than being important. if they get more screen time in a future saga, maybe that will change.
@scottkoppinger2595
@scottkoppinger2595 4 года назад
Why? The cheapened going Super Saiyan..."oh look It took me 10 minutes to do this thing, it took these people all their lives to accomplish and before that generations of Saiyans weren't able to do, but...WE know about the tingling and can do it in a few minutes!"...It's stupid, and I understand why they did it, but it doesn't make sense
@newerax1009
@newerax1009 4 года назад
Lol how??
@anastasiocatalan416
@anastasiocatalan416 4 года назад
I don’t understand why Trunks hasn’t accented to a God level, when he was just as strong as Goku and Vageta in the Cell Games! What’s going on with Toriyama?
@whitedeath9
@whitedeath9 4 года назад
Beerus and the Supreme Kai died in his timeline so there was no way he could have learned about God ki and thus how to ascend to God level.
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 2 года назад
@@whitedeath9 he could of learned it in the past
@hussmod
@hussmod 4 месяца назад
Bro said raising the stakes, they only raised steaks 😂😂😂😂😂 Ik that's not funny The stakes were just high in the top but you can't forget dbz is the sayian saga removed the Dragonballs to raise the stakes and in the cell saga when kami and piccolo fused
@nesnalica
@nesnalica 4 года назад
coming from re watching original DB and DBZ I can totally agree with this video. a lot of "dragon ball" fans actually only watched (if at all) Z. the essence of original dragon ball was definitely caught back with super!
@BatmanPops
@BatmanPops 4 года назад
50 things Dragon Ball Z does better than Dragon Ball Super LOL 😂
@bullymaguire6722
@bullymaguire6722 4 года назад
Natsu Dragneel 「AMV」 GT trash asf😂😂
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
@Natsu Dragneel 「AMV」 gt trash Fuck out of here
@lolcall5295
@lolcall5295 4 года назад
@@SonGoku-777 yeah gt is trash but dbs is just pure shit.
@TheUltimateRare
@TheUltimateRare 4 года назад
well everything has to have haters, yet Super is loved by a pretty sizeable group, just as it's hated.
@SonGoku-777
@SonGoku-777 4 года назад
@@TheUltimateRare true
@jsammy5935
@jsammy5935 4 года назад
Reasons that DBZ was way better: 1)The characters were way more badass 2)The characters power was not nerfed that much unlike super 3)Transformations are unlocked by hard training and not just joining hands and getting massive power up, or getting power by just coincidence 4)Z fighters had more value 5) Beautiful realistic art, blood, Destruction and more realistic effects 6) Power Levels were more something back then 7) For obvious reasons the Bruce Faulconer Score 8) It didn't have that massive spotlight on Goku compared to super 9) CBR obviously does not recognise dbz's true quality and legacy (CBR in many of the videos says bullshit anyways) 10)it was drawn on hand and not by some stupid computer unlike super that made it's artstyle look like pile of crap 11) Goku was more like a noble and smarter Saiyan and not a dumb fuck like in super The only thing I appreciate from Super Art are for obvious reasons Nataoshi Shida Scenes
@armandohernandez5454
@armandohernandez5454 4 года назад
Master Luigi couldnt have said it better myself
@budgiecat2885
@budgiecat2885 4 года назад
Another thing: Why didnt Champa train the Saiyans before the tournament? He obviously should know about Super Saiyan because the angels shoulda informed him. So in other words, all of his Saiyans shoulda been SSJ God/SSJ Blue level entering the tournament. Hell, everyone entering shoulda had God ki. Not just Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo (yes Piccolo has God Ki he fused with Kami remember; he just hasnt mastered it)
@jantheking7028
@jantheking7028 3 года назад
@@budgiecat2885 Um what? You expected Champa to train 2 non-super sayains and train them enough to be SSB within 10 days? If that happened, it would give DBZ fans more reasons to hate DBS.
@budgiecat2885
@budgiecat2885 3 года назад
@@jantheking7028 How can non Super Saiyans turn into Super Saiyan? lol i know what you meant but your wording is poor there. You meant 3 (not two since theres the other guy) Saiyans that only one of them could transform to SSJ while one of the other two was hiding her abilities anyway. Well...the answer to that is they all shoulda been SSJ from the start; not first impression weaklings. Then through Champa's alien's training; gain SSB or whatever. Or, this coulda also been a way to properly introduce SSJ4 into the main canon since they were from a different universe anyway; but they fucked that up since they established that they didnt have tails.
@Kuro_kit0925
@Kuro_kit0925 2 года назад
Tell me your stupid without telling me your stupid. This video:
@romanimations7108
@romanimations7108 3 года назад
The animation for super was always good to me, but the T.O.P. and The Broly Movie were eye candy.
@kylemayo2721
@kylemayo2721 4 года назад
I'm just happy for more Dragon Ball....
@TheUltimateRare
@TheUltimateRare 4 года назад
right? ENough of this hate Nonsense, just stop talking about super if they hate it so much, they don't have to worry about it. i don't even see much people talk about GT, cause they grew up and got over themselves.
@mattbarlow1398
@mattbarlow1398 4 года назад
Exactly what I came on here to say. Best thing about Super is that we got more Dragon Ball. Let's just enjoy it for what it is. As shitty as GT was, it was a further Dragon Ball fix. And Super is a massive improvement on GT
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 4 года назад
@@mattbarlow1398 Oh hell no it aint
@stanleylee3329
@stanleylee3329 4 года назад
13:33 according to the Goten/Trunks laws of aging Broly is 26 in this shot
@litpotat5601
@litpotat5601 3 года назад
Lmao fr goten and trunks are doomed to forever be 2'5" because of trunks visiting the past
@rukminikannan9779
@rukminikannan9779 11 месяцев назад
Well you're wrong.
@philaccardo5007
@philaccardo5007 4 года назад
IMO the fact that DBZ has Bruce Falconers music literally is enough. Its hard to imagine my favorite DBZ Scenes without his epic music!.
@MrGoodman174
@MrGoodman174 4 года назад
Screw that, Ocean Dub was the REAL thing from the get-go. Even if i'm the only one who thinks that.
@MrGoodman174
@MrGoodman174 4 года назад
@syed jawad It has it's variety but i had no problem with that really. My personal favorite totally hypes it up ''Army Awakening'' but there is no doubt that the early Ocean dub has the phenomenal soundtracks.
@aceventurapetdetective1736
@aceventurapetdetective1736 4 года назад
The downside to Super is the pacing. There is no moment to breathe whenever there is dialogue. It is kinda like Pokemon.
@thebigsad5402
@thebigsad5402 4 года назад
Am I the only one here that enjoys all 4 series?(DB DBZ DBGT DBS) I enjoy Z as much as the next guy. But none can deny the pacing of it was so damn slow and tedious. I dont mind filler episodes but DBZ took that to heart. Talk or stand for 5 minutes and fight for 2. While yes the art style on Super was bad at first, look at DBZ art style. It wasn't until the Cell saga when it started to improve, and it looked incredible at the end with Buu saga.In the beginning though with the saiyan and Namek saga, it looked bad. The score that Bruce made was good but most of it was forgettable. With the exception of ssj3 theme, gohans theme, Cells theme and vegetas theme(plus hells bells), Bruce didn't really have a memorable soundtrack. Plus IT NEVER STOPPED PLAYING. Now I'm not trying to hate on Z. But you would be lying to yourself of you said DBZ didn't have flaws.
@ahreaper
@ahreaper 2 года назад
Ikr? I love z just as much as the next guy but DAMN did it have problems
@AnubhavNagpalIDCIITB
@AnubhavNagpalIDCIITB 4 года назад
The last 3 episodes of the series also had much superior animation
@Charlie-qi9rr
@Charlie-qi9rr 4 года назад
Imagine this: caulifla sees kale, cabba, and hit knocked out, and since she's the only hope left for her universe to survive, she undergoes a super Saiyan transformation (but still loses)
@craigpeoples9883
@craigpeoples9883 4 года назад
You just actually gave Caulifla a good reason to turn super saiyan your a god
@Charlie-qi9rr
@Charlie-qi9rr 4 года назад
@@craigpeoples9883 thanks
@wallbrick2170
@wallbrick2170 4 года назад
What music at starting I forgot what it is Someone remind me plz
@theterminator9527
@theterminator9527 4 года назад
What about everything Z does better than super?
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 4 года назад
That would take years to explain
@AhsimNreiziev
@AhsimNreiziev 4 года назад
That would defeat the point of the entire video. It's much more interesting to point out the things the perceived inferior series does better than the perceived superior series, than it is to do the reverse.
@darkpandalord3844
@darkpandalord3844 4 года назад
Literally everyone is saying that Z is better than Super. I mean, come on, Z isn't love and life. It's not just Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z all the time. At least give some room to point out the more unpopular opinions and perceptions. Like, for example, this video.
@machiox9951
@machiox9951 4 года назад
it would be cool if they would bring Chi-Chi back as a fighter. maybe with some developed, under the radar, skills and abilities when no one was looking. i don't like how she started being Ox King's daughter, to someone who sparred with Goku to a nagging running gag. they need to put on par with Krillin near 18's power level and technique and skills. just sayin'
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 4 года назад
That would be amazing. Personally, I like Chi-chi as a compassionate and skillful fighter than a abusive over-demanding, angry housewife. But it's all Toriyama's creations.
@modikanalanga7859
@modikanalanga7859 3 года назад
Because she was spending all of the time with family and not power
@realspeedghxst
@realspeedghxst 3 года назад
What track is used in the begginig of the video?
@natwalsh2710
@natwalsh2710 3 года назад
I still love the original DBZ more. The one that I grew up with back on Toonami in the 90’s and early 2000’s.
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