You’ve given me more lore to make my OC for the Stonehearts, thank you very much 🫡. I know there are already ten but I kind of like the idea of a character who’s a Stoneheart in name only and more of a representative of the will of the IPC than someone who actively participates in its politics. My OC finally got the missing piece she was missing c’asue of this video so thank you 🙏
@@gadidjakariman4053no. Sapphire is most likely someone who can shapeshift into griffin. Also, it wouldn't make sense for Sunday to join the IPC. Even if he did, there's no way he's already apart of the Ten Stonehearts
What interests me about Opal's comment about Aventurine being spared being "Diamond's recommendation" is the implication that Diamond might have let Opal know his preference before all this went down and then just sat back and watched in silence.
@@saunatonttu93 On the CN side they speculate that out of respect or fear for diamond, the vote would always come down to 4:4, so that Opal, the stoneheart seemingly closest to diamond, would represent him in making a decision. Sugilite and Opal both seem to have expected this result as if it’s a common occurrence.
@@Void-ui8sz Thats right! However more specifically they didnt want to get on the bad side of Diamond nor they want to be am obvious stuck-up, so they orchestrated the 4 to 4 so Diamond and opal get to make the final decision. Everyone knows what is actually going on and no one is offended or benefits
their interaction reminds me of a medieval court. They probably couldn't care less about aven, but rather want to use him/announce their stance which will impact everyone else's actions. Except for Topaz. She's probably the only one not scheming.
A few things I've noticed about Amber: First was that her display was showing everyone in real-time during the trial, so she probably has espionage abilities. Then there's also Pearl mentioning that she prefers to remain neutral but had her vote casted against removing Aventurine from the stonehearts. If we try to analyze the votes before her, it was at a 4-2 in favor of removing Aventurine from the stonehearts. So, if there was even a single vote that went in favor, the trial would've immediately ended then and there. It was as if Amber timed her vote in such a way that she passed down the burden of the critical decision to Pearl and Opal, which makes Pearl's comment on her being neutral correct. This would make Amber, in my opinion, pretty logical and calculating. Lastly, we see on Amber's screen that there are hands moving and adjusting the images being displayed while there isn't anyone on the chair in front of the screen and only her cornerstone was on it. This makes me think that she probably is from Punklorde and has similar abilities to Silver Wolf that can hack into reality. Maybe I'm just overthinking stuff from her very short introduction but isn't it weird how her cornerstone is literally the same as their Aeon, yet she is the lowest ranking out of all of them based on the way the trailer showed two different scenes where the stonehearts are ranked (the stairs and the portraits). I smell a red herring here, and I think she may be one of the most important figures in the stonehearts.
@@Otashigami or maybe they just want to let opal (which seems already heard a suggestions from Diamond himself) to decide. So in a 4-2 situation, anyone that didn't favor anything will try to balance it out and try to hear their big boss decision instead.
Just realised everyone's order in the last scene might reveal their ranks. So we have: P-44: Amber, Agate, Topaz (demoted) P-45: Sugilite, Aventurine, Pearl (confirmed), Sapphire(?) P-46: Sapphire(?), Jade, Obsidian, Opal
In my theory, the ten Stoneheart is divided into three excution group leaded by three P46 member(Opal, Obisidian and Jade). Group Jade(Topaz,Aventurine), Group Opal(Pearl,Sapphire) and Group Obsidian(Agate, Sugilite). Amber is a sepcial one who always keeps neutral. Mabey she is the newest and weakest member (10th) or her name Amber has some special metaphor relating with the Amber Lord.
I mean aventurine gives 0 damn about aeons to follow lol. But actions speak louder than words, he is surviving as the last sole of his kin, which is an act of preservation. Ideology wise, he is has mix of elation and nihility. He himself said that he doesnt have anything in common with the preservation
@@Akane_k.l people do be forgetting that All path energy is imaginary energy and that worship/following an aeon isn't really a requirement for a lot of things in SR lmao
this was originally a comment from a Chinese fan but i think it’s interesting to bring that up here too! if the votes were a <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="303">5:3</a> in favour of punishment then diamonds final say wouldn’t have mattered, they balanced the scale to give opal/diamond the final say in the end, whether if it’s accidental or deliberate we don’t know but that’s why opal made the sarcastic comment that “everyone here is as united as always”😅
Dude I love these recaps you do on star rail. Top notch quality as always With the Sapphire person, I agree about the loyalty thing. I'm pretty sure griffins are symbolized for being loyal too
At the end of the video, it seems like Diamond has reached the Cast Iron Throne, which controls the equilibrium of wealth and poverty in the entire universe. Just like the two creators of the IPC.
To think the 10 stonehearts and diamond are one of the many departments of the IPC and there are still more💀 wonder wut oswaldo and his department are like
According to boothill he seems much more of a worse person than Diamond and i think correct me if im wrong he was the person who wanted to have that space nuke made imaginary something and it destroyed several already inhabited planets
I like it how IPC videos are always like an advertisement. How it starts with the IPC logo and it ends with the motto "all for the amber lord" and the same logo
It seems to me that Diamond is actually present during Aventurine's trial, he just chooses to observe what will be the outcome and not show himself. I also wonder who is stronger between Diamond and Taravan
Personally i like to think amber is also an inorganic(imo her portrait gives me a “soul in a machine” vibe), plus ambers are formed from petrified tree resin which is an organic substance
exactly what i thought, at 2:16 in the Myriad trailer u can see that everyone bowing before Opal is carrying the same pacifier, and i doubt that he has like 40 cornerstones.
In the CN version, Opal's first two sentences sounded very much like a child and then got quite adult and menacing after he took the pacifier out of the box. The JP version has this trait as well, dunno why they didn’t do the same in the EN version
In all versions his voice does drop after the second sentence. The EN version is slightly less noticeable but you can hear it when he says “four v four” compared to his other lines.
Something interesting about Obsidian and the space vampire angle. Even if it is just fruits shes bathing in, the fruit chosen is specifically pomegranates which has ties to the underworld in Greek mythos. I believe the goddess Persephone had eaten a pomegranate from the realm of Hades and its seeds kept her from being able to fully return to the world above... or it is one of the greek heroes who dealt with the pomegranate of Hades. I can't recall the exact legend as i just woke up.
Pomegranates have a lot of different connotations in greek mythology, but yeah, most relate them to the story of Hades and Persephone. As the story goes, Persephone ate six pomegranate seeds during her time in the underworld, so she’d spend six months in the underworld and six months on olympus with her mother during the year. It’s the story of seasons.
The Stonehearts will most likely have abilities that either rely 100% on a follow up attack or can be buffed through things like DoT or maybe even healing recieved, Heck, we might even get an Abundance one that just leeches off enemies with a follow up attack and heals the team. (Obsidian i'm looking at you.)
For the first point I also initially thought Opal was the one doing the meeting on Diamond's behalf. However, the beginning we hear a different voice than Opal's and it shows us pearl's stone. Opal obviously does play some role for Diamond as he says it is Diamond's recommendation to not punish Aventurine but I am quite Pearl is the one who is the chair of meeting after rewatching a few times.
I'm pretty sure the one hosting the meeting is not Opal, but Pearl. 1. Pearl is the only one seen actually dropping cornerstones onto the scale (besides Obsidian's bats) 2. The voice at the beginning sounds a lot more like Pearl's (her VA is also listed first in the description)
Regarding the "you're united as always" part, I saw an interesting theory in the comments of the Chinese version of the trailer, that it's actually about the Ten Stonehearts working together in some way so that in the end the decision would fall to Opal, who seems to sort of act as a "stand-in" for Diamond anyway, so that in the end their vote follows what Diamond wants (and they don't implicate themselves as trying to rebel against him or similar)
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="408">6:48</a> i think it was stated in 2.1 that the stone hearts never really worked together. I think it was during Sunday and Aventurine negotiations
- War between aeon/god have pretty interesting implication in honkaiverse lore - In GGZ(honkai gakuen 2), there is a type of God that is above a normal god(or in hsr case aeon), we will call them as "Supreme God" (King of all Gods) - Supreme God r not simply the strongest god of their universe, if each god represent an aspect or a path then the Supreme God represent every aspect/path of that universe, you could said they r the one true god of that universe, represent their entire universe - 2 main way to become a Supreme God: 1. Absorb/consume all other god of that universe and take all their power/path, 2. Win the Battle Royale between all the gods - The battle royale way r more common but it only happen when the universe near the end of their cycle, the battle is to decide the fate of the universe. If there is a Supreme God rise from it then universe will continue to exist, develop and avoid being reset but if no one win then it head to stagnation, destruction then reset
@@emery120 not really, it only possible coz it a honkai game and honkaiverse lore is already well develop for over 10 years already. Knowing something like this before it happen don't really matter much as it was hint very obvious like aeon war and finality reset etc etc, what matter is how the writer lead us there. honkai writer love to make a lot of hint obvious like how in hi3 we know for very long time who is the last boss of part 1 story or we know who/where the real Kiana was for years before the reveal happen but it didn't dmg the exp in any way coz how brilliant honkai writer did to reach those point. You may have encounter many moment in hsr story that u knowing exactly how something gonna end but you r still surprise by how we got there and the full detail of it, that how honkai story usually are, penacony story should already give u a taste of how honkai story usually is. it gonna be so moving forward as Shaoji(who write penacony story) is now the director/leader in charge of all honkai related game writing.
@@jakeail1995It is in fact the philosophy that Hoyo very clearly state thru Raiden Mei and Acheron for example "May the end remain the same, how we get there can change everything"
@@gumikin8706 - yes ik it been a philosophy of honkai story since forever coz honkai story start out all about cycle of rebirth, about the universe being reset. in GGZ story it got reset twice and Honkai impact 3rd, the 3rd in the name have triple meaning: 1. 3rd series of honkai game, 2. 3rd honkai eruption happen in hi3 story, 3. 3rd universe after being reset the 2nd time in ggz
@@jakeail1995 Ehhh, third is kinda no, Despite similarities HI3rd world is separate from GGZ very much, they have their own cycle of 50k years Both have much more resets, they just happened before game plot point Also HI3rd Name is more than anything is reference to Evangelion, because Mihoyo are Tech Otakus
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="343">5:43</a> I thought it was wine. But whatever, something like a vampire, huh? And someone who seems to have an insane personality, hehe. I am warping for her without a doubt.
My Theories: - Sugilite: He mocked Aventurine because all his "extravagance" is not for material things. Aventurine gambles his life away for non-material purposes and results. As shown in his "home", he might be a materialistic person, focused on hoarding. - Sapphire: Treasures oaths... Sapphire is either the winged creature shown, or they OWN the creature like a pet. They treasure loyalty and compromise above all, and if playable might have ice-based powers. - Agate: I bet my chips on the statue. But Diamond somehow knows that they are "alive" because I can't see why keep a dead member on the Stonehearts. That said, Agate might be a lifeform similiar to the Heliobi, or is kinda "stuck" to the statue and can only be reached via a ritual. - Obisidian: Space vampire mommy, OR, she just likes the aesthetics. If she's a vampire, the pomegranate juice might be used to quench her thirst without requiring to kill for blood. Or, like Marceline, she can feed on the color red instead of blood if she chooses. - Amber: Observer kind. Like diamond, they rely on long-distance, non-direct action. Also, prefers neutrality, or equilibrium. That's why she votes for Aventurine, to balance the scales. - Pearl: Kinda sounds like pearl from Steven Universe (and her cornerstone is located on her forehead). Values justice. Aventurine had a very hard life despite his luck. Lost his family and his whole species, was a slave, and would be self-destruct long ago if it wasn't his luck. So, she believes he deserves forgiveness. - Opal: Follows Diamond's reccomendations, and might be really close to them. Might be a Pepeshi, but I bet my chips on him being a small person/person with dwarfnism. The clash between his voice and the fact that he has a pacifier, makes me think that his condition makes him look like a child, he either embraces that or uses this as a way to show power (like: So, who's the child now? I might have a pacifier but it is more expensives than a whole planet!), might be quite childish too and see Diamond as a "parent" figure, hence why he follows Diamond's recoomendation. The scale: I believe that the scale foreshadows the character's alignment. The ones who voted against Aventurine will clash against the Express Crew, the ones who favored him, even not really meaning to, might work alongside the Express. (And on Agate's case, their alignment is unknown because Obisidian made their decision for them)
fr real i thought the same also the comment b/w aeon war kinda reminded me of fatui's war with god and they are supporting a god just like them supporting an aeon but they are less destructive as they think rationally not like fatui going berserk sometimes...also for genshin and hsr player it felt like they were collecting gnosis or hsr cornerstone lol
something weird is that you can match all the 10 stonehearts to that one image from the 2.3 story (where Jade is in the middle) of all the 10, but when you use that and compare it to the scene where they're all on the stairs (trailer), for some reason it seems like Amber is the only one missing honestly, Idk why but its just kind of weird
I can't really tell who is who at 7:18 lol. But if Amber's not there, could it be that she's some kind AI? She doesn't exist physically. Since all her appearances so far seems to be on a screen.
This might be completely coincidental, but when Opal is repairing Aventurine’s Stone, the gold that is falling from the Planets come together and form what looks like, a Golden Tree. This makes me want to believe that Opal (or the Stonehearts, or even Diamond themselves) has some connection with the Tree of Existence. Although it isn’t a perfect match, this Golden Tree appears very similarly to the symbol of the Imaginary Type. A Yellow (Golden) Tree.
Although we all know in general about the remaining members who will appear in the future of Ten Stone Hearts, Diamond is still a "question mark", that makes me very curious about when Hoyo will reveal his appearance
@@MiIkywayCookie probably I've read about it. I am an day one player , I've no clue about what is Emanator back then. Since Acheron I know how strong they (Emanators) are
@@yunama47 In the databanks.. it shows that Emanators are basically representative of an AEON so they are basically planetary level in terms of powers. Though Acheron is especially powerful since an Emanator of Nihility is very rare to exist or come across than other Emanators... Since IX is like one of the Oldest lasting Aeon.
I mean, they weren't exactly trying to hide it to begin with. It's more like a thing they just mentioned once and never again since it's not THAT important. And her "real" identity is not really a thing, she's just a brat. Her original body could be an interesting topic though, since the body she currently uses is a puppet.
This was super detailed, like all the other recaps you’ve made. Love them :) Also I believe that opal’s pacifier isn’t actually his stone, since at the end where it shows all the cornerstones, we can see opal’s stone looks like a normal gemstone (at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="573">9:33</a>, directly to the left of diamond). I may be incorrect but this is just my take on it
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="572">9:32</a> what also might be the case (but I'm unsure if that can be confirmed or not), the arrangement of the gemstones in relation to how close they are to Diamond. It seems like Opal and Obsidian are the closest to him (or have the most power) which Topaz also hinted a little in the 1.4 epilogue while on the call with Aventurine.
You're onto something. Jade is also not that far away from Diamond. Amber and Agate are the furthest and they're probably the lowest rank out of everyone based on 9:21 orders. Also, the cornerstones position matches the 9:21 orders.
The portraiture of the Stoneheart in the end of trailor indicates the rank bewteen them， Opal>Obsidian>Jade>Sapphire>Pearl>Aventurine>Sugilite>Topaz>Agate>Amber.And the way how ten stone surrounding the Amber Lord also shows the same order. Acording to rank, Sugilite(7th) is the direct competitor with Aventurine(6th). Maybe it's the reason why he is the first one who stands up against Aventurine.
And in my theory, the ten Stoneheart is divided into three excution group leaded by three P46 member(Opal, Obisidian and Jade). Group Jade(Topaz,Aventurine), Group Opal(Pearl,Sapphire) and Group Obsidian(Agate, Sugilite). Amber is a sepcial one who always keeps neutral. Mabey she is the newest and weakest member (10th) or her name Amber has some special metaphor relating with the Amber Lord.
I didn't miss anything in the trailer... I missed it in entirety =P I have been busy lately and I didn't notice it, so thank you for bringing it to my attention ^_^
definitely should not overlook herta. we never actually get to see her in person. wouldn't be funny when she send all of her 1000 puppets after you XDDD
I still have no idea why TB has to fight against Nanook the ruin author. The destruction and it's emanator has been unclear aside from destroying things. As mentioned aside from Nanook there is still a clear threat which is Tazzyronth (which is sealed inside the Amber Seal), Yaoshi which goal pretty much save species whilst destroying it, and Ouroboros trying to eat the space. While Yaoshi will be related to the Lan aka space China story. Based on theory Ouroboros and Tazzyronth will likely be related to Qlipoth. Other Aeon is unlikely to take part aside from Aha, Xipe, and Fuli. Terminus, Mythus, Nous, Hooh, Akivili, Idrilla and Long whereabouts are still unclear
Yaoshi is not a clear threat tho, she just do what she thinks is good, saves lifes, unlike Nanook, Tazzy and Voracity who's existence puts a danger on all and everything, Yaoshi makes as much good as she does bad, just like any other Aeon, Lan for example can trumple worlds and kill as much of his allies and innocents as he does enemies just to take down Yaoshi and her creations
Just the observation, but Opal is in the exact same clothes as Kafka. Even the eyeglasses are there. I wonder, if it’s just their preference or if it means something
Opal's gemstone is literally shown when it's thrown into the scale bein and oval shape like most other gemstones, you can see the same shape again in the showcase of the people and their gemstones
I think the seven members of the Ten Stonehearts that were voiced are going to be playable. Aventurine, Jade, and Topaz have differing in-game paths. So with 7 playable paths, it'd be satisfying to see the other 4 be fulfilled by the members of the Ten Stonehearts. Same for elements. My predictions are that Obsidian will be a Nihility, Physical character with self-sacrificial bleed application. Opal will be a Harmony, Wind character with a team-wide cleanse. Pearl will be an Abundance, Ice character with self-sacrificial healing and buffing. And finally, Sugilite will be a Destruction, Lightning character who scales with the number of buffs he has.
If Agate, Sapphire, and Amber were playable. I predict Sapphire would be a The Hunt, Ice character who has a targeting and taunt mechanic similar to Boothill, but with a counter. Agate would be a Destruction, Fire character who has a revival mechanics that's their main damage source. And finally, for the second time, Amber would be a Harmony character who steals buffs from the enemy and inflicts them with their own debuffs.
The Intellitron having more humanity than the rest of the Ten Stonehearts line up with Screwllum having the most humanity out of the Genius Society. For both it's ironic. For the Genius Society, they have to value the pursuit of knowledge over anything else, unlike the Intelligentsia Guild which values the spread of knowledge. As a result, most Genius Society members lack humanity, being more akin to robots. This is likely why Dr. Ratio was never looked upon by THEM. For Screwllum, he's the most far from being a human, and yet he still has a sort of humanity. However, he still lacks empathy as we see him question Veritas Ratio's actions at the end of the Herta Space Station Continuance.
I have a theory that when they walk up the stairs to diamond the order of them walking is their rank in the stone hearts probably like opal is first and obsidian is second
It’s stated by Black Swan after Sunday puts us in the illusion that “when emanators clash collateral damage occurs” or something along those lines, indicating that Jing Yuan and Sunday were the emanators in that case. However, the emanators in this case might also be the lightning lord and Dominicus. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="152">2:32</a>
I’m pretty sure it’s made clear that Sunday usurped the powers of the “emanator” Dominicus, but it’s not clear if Jing Yuan is the true emanator. I feel like when Feixiao releases this might become clearer.
Dominicus is for sure one of the Emanators of the Harmony. Sunday was acting as the chordmaster and controlling it to try to use its power to revive Ena, but he's not an Emanator himself. As for Jing Yuan, I tend to follow the theory of the Lightning Lord being the Emanator because it would explain how someone like Fu Xuan (an obvious follower of the Erudition) could eventually become general and control the Lightning Lord. But we don't know for sure.
The war between Aeons has been hinted at quite a bit since Xianzhou and even more so now with Penacony when it was infiltrated by followers of Ena. What I want to know is how the war between Aeons will be handled, will they be battling themselves or will it be like a game of chess where their followers will be the chess pieces i.e. proxies and champions?
I think you made a minor mistake at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="13">0:13</a>, The meeting was called by Diamond with Pearl as the chairperson, not Opal. We can see this by seeing the Ten Stonehearts video, where Pearl hand started to touch the IPC Logo at the beginning, and we can also see her hands dropping Sapphire, Amber and her own Stoneheart. Opal is just being a chaotic driver lmao, oh and his Stonehearts is above his hat at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="570">9:30</a>
I really wonder just how the aeon war would carry out. Would it send ripples throughout the universe?? Will worlds like HI3 and Genshin that are isolated from the HSR civilization cluster be affected? Also puts into question just how many worlds are still isolated and not aware of the others
I don’t think the pacifier is Opal’s cornerstone, as we see a bunch of people all holding a box containing one in the next scene. In the scene where it shows all of them as well near the end, where it scrolls through images of them all, it ends with Opal, with a oval shaped gem (presumably Opal) above his head
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="343">5:43</a> Seeing the Pomegranate I believe Obsidian is Based on the Greek goddess Persephone Hades Wife & Queen of the underworld of how she Ate the Pomegranate seeds of the underworld to become its Queen
the seven generals aren't emanators persay but the spirits they wield are granted by lan, though this isn't really details missed video more so just explaining the video
That is honestly why i seriosuly think that jing yuan himself is not an emanator but is weilding an essence of one which is lightning lord, like if you even just compare him to acheron like the level dynamic of their feats is a big difference like his power scaling is probably within the likes of aventurine with an unbroken cornerstone
While the Arbiter Generals being emanators is still up for debate, one thing is for certain and without question, the Marshal is most definitely an emanator of the Hunt
Remember black swan mentioning battle between emanator when jingyuan and danheng vs sunday Or welt describe emanator of remembrance for not having physical body just like black swan and messenger
She specifically said "Emanators" tho, Lightning Lord is gifted power of Aeon and it is confirmed so he is The Power of Emanator, JY himself tho still not stated so directly without speculations or ""
I find it strange that they refer to him as the Amber Lord but we also have a cornerstone named Amber, I wonder if that indicates anything about her power or just a coincidence or smthn.
An emanator scaling even a fraction of qlipoth, who's weapon alone spans the galaxy... being confined solely to one planet or solar system, i simply cannot see how you would scale that realistically without breaking immersion Acheron V aventurine gets a pass because im sure the half dead cornerstone cancelled out a good bit of acheron's slash,, and I can reduce the lasting effect of the slash as some dimensional sever, one due to its power more so than it's nihilistic properties
I don't know why no one has talked about this but Obsidian looks so similar to Himeko to the point it's straight uncanny I saw a theory that Himeko was once part of the IPC, while the theory is somewhat far-fetched and unrelated, what if Obsidian is related to Himeko? Maybe Obsidian is her informant or a family member I don't know, but I think it's an interesting plot carrot to chew on
Aeons goes to war .. all hell breaks .. than we got bocchi the IX chilling , calling everything "meaningless" and Aha sends Nanook to IX's way just for funsies
so the ten stonehearts are like the fatui of hsr? but then again, they are under just one emanator, there are other departments under other emanators in the IPC.
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